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f*l2005-04-29 07:04

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【以下文字转载自 WorldNews 讨论区】
【原文由 fuel 所发表】
the magic term "free will" doesn't justify anything.
if you abandoned your country and your people for your own good,
that's only because you are selfish enough to do so.
it's selfishness, although some decorate it as "free will".
i'm not saying that selfishness is bad, no, it's a neutral thing as long
as you don't sacrafice others' behalf to fulfill it.
i'm just saying that selfishness doesn't make you morally superior than others.
some old generals an

h*r2005-04-29 07:04

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逐点批判吧。

** Based on your following reasoning, a better way to say is: the magic term
"free will" doesn't justify everything.
错！任何社会现象的本质都是selfishNESS. 不道德的行为，被唾弃的行为，错误的本质
不在于selfishNESS，而在于愚蠢。社会存在的原因就是人类通过合作获得个人无法得到
的资源从而有利于自身的存在，也就是你说的selfishNESS，合作就需要协同和约定，也
就是契约，表现为法律，道德等等。违反道德，法律，可以一时一地地有利于自己，但是
因为破坏了人类的合作而最终伤害到社会资源，从而最终伤害自己。所以，任何违法行为
和不道德的行为，本质上是愚蠢和短见，而非自私。比如，为老弱病残孕让座这个社会道
德，其自私基础就是，任何人及其亲人，都有可能成为老弱病残孕，都有特别需要坐座位
的时候。与其到了自己成为老弱病残孕后再去和别人抢座位，不如全社会达成共识，给老
弱病残孕让座，在自己健康的时候就算让了座也没有损失，自己老弱病残孕的时候就能够

【在 f**l 的大作中提到】

: 【以下文字转载自 WorldNews 讨论区】
: 【原文由 fuel 所发表】
: the magic term "free will" doesn't justify anything.
: if you abandoned your country and your people for your own good,
: that's only because you are selfish enough to do so.
: it's selfishness, although some decorate it as "free will".
: i'm not saying that selfishness is bad, no, it's a neutral thing as long
: as you don't sacrafice others' behalf to fulfill it.
: i'm just saying that selfishness doesn't make you morally superior than others.
: some old generals an