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肖氏手术:美国医院的声明
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G*s
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Main point:
北美的结果与中国的结果不符。肖传国的外衣在美国也快要被戳穿了。
However, the results in North America as measured by improvement in bladder
function and continence have not yet matched the results in China.
http://sophiesvoicefoundation.org/home.html
A STATEMENT ABOUT THE XIAO PROCEDURE SURGICAL TRIAL
Since its inception, Sophie's Voice Foundation has closely monitored nerve
rerouting surgery for bladder reinnervation as an avenue for research and
treatment of children with spina bifida. Initial reports of this procedure,
which was developed in China, suggested a very good success rate so that
children could empty their bladders on their own and stay dry. For the
past three years, we worked with doctors at Children's Hospital of Atlanta
worked to develop a protocol for a surgical trial to be conducted in Atlanta
while reviewing the results that were coming out of North American centers.
At this point, there is evidence that nerve rerouting can successfully bring
new functional nerves into the bladder. This means that nerve rerouting
should remain an important avenue for research.
However, the results in North America as measured by improvement in bladder
function and continence have not yet matched the results in China.
Neuroscience tends to be very complex and scientists and doctors are just
beginning to understand the way that nerves behave when they are divided and
reconnected during rerouting procedures. There are many questions at a
basic science level that will need to be answered in order to better
understand how this procedure works and how it can be made more successful.
Fortunately, the National Institutes of Health is supporting an effort
continue evaluation of this procedure. We will continue to closely monitor
emerging results. For now, Sophie's Voice Foundation and the participating
physicians at Children's Healthcare of Atlanta believe that the most prudent
course is to await these results. We will continue to focus on the
prevention of spina bifida, prenatal education, support of family outreach
programs and research that improves the quality of life for children with
spina bifida.
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d*1
2
很显然是肖锤子一方面拿美国的基金,忽悠国内,让手术能被开绿灯,然后,再对结果
造假,拿着夸大的结果忽悠美国获得更多的基金,来回忽悠。

bladder
procedure,

【在 G*********s 的大作中提到】
: Main point:
: 北美的结果与中国的结果不符。肖传国的外衣在美国也快要被戳穿了。
: However, the results in North America as measured by improvement in bladder
: function and continence have not yet matched the results in China.
: http://sophiesvoicefoundation.org/home.html
: A STATEMENT ABOUT THE XIAO PROCEDURE SURGICAL TRIAL
: Since its inception, Sophie's Voice Foundation has closely monitored nerve
: rerouting surgery for bladder reinnervation as an avenue for research and
: treatment of children with spina bifida. Initial reports of this procedure,
: which was developed in China, suggested a very good success rate so that

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d*1
3
另外,美国的这个医院,还有那个peter,是有偏向肖的动机的,因为基金是个人见人
爱的东西。
比如不是有个说法全球变暖就是骗基金的么?这个说法对不对不说,至少证明了基金确
实是人民大众喜闻乐见的。

bladder
procedure,

【在 G*********s 的大作中提到】
: Main point:
: 北美的结果与中国的结果不符。肖传国的外衣在美国也快要被戳穿了。
: However, the results in North America as measured by improvement in bladder
: function and continence have not yet matched the results in China.
: http://sophiesvoicefoundation.org/home.html
: A STATEMENT ABOUT THE XIAO PROCEDURE SURGICAL TRIAL
: Since its inception, Sophie's Voice Foundation has closely monitored nerve
: rerouting surgery for bladder reinnervation as an avenue for research and
: treatment of children with spina bifida. Initial reports of this procedure,
: which was developed in China, suggested a very good success rate so that

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G*s
4
如果你看过CNN和Fox的报道,就会发现肖完全是拿中国的假数据在忽悠

【在 d********1 的大作中提到】
: 很显然是肖锤子一方面拿美国的基金,忽悠国内,让手术能被开绿灯,然后,再对结果
: 造假,拿着夸大的结果忽悠美国获得更多的基金,来回忽悠。
:
: bladder
: procedure,

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G*s
5
那个Sophie不知道做了手术没有,也没有下文。
在声明中着重强调与中国的结果不符,这个已经算是打肖传国的脸了。

【在 d********1 的大作中提到】
: 另外,美国的这个医院,还有那个peter,是有偏向肖的动机的,因为基金是个人见人
: 爱的东西。
: 比如不是有个说法全球变暖就是骗基金的么?这个说法对不对不说,至少证明了基金确
: 实是人民大众喜闻乐见的。
:
: bladder
: procedure,

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k*2
6
"At this point, there is evidence that nerve rerouting can successfully
bring
new functional nerves into the bladder. This means that nerve rerouting
should remain an important avenue for research"
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d*1
7
key word “research”。

【在 k*******2 的大作中提到】
: "At this point, there is evidence that nerve rerouting can successfully
: bring
: new functional nerves into the bladder. This means that nerve rerouting
: should remain an important avenue for research"

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d*1
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似乎肖已经成功地忽悠了好几个医院了。
有亚特兰大,弗罗里达至少。

【在 G*********s 的大作中提到】
: 那个Sophie不知道做了手术没有,也没有下文。
: 在声明中着重强调与中国的结果不符,这个已经算是打肖传国的脸了。

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c*e
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Difference between "research" and "clinical practice"

【在 k*******2 的大作中提到】
: "At this point, there is evidence that nerve rerouting can successfully
: bring
: new functional nerves into the bladder. This means that nerve rerouting
: should remain an important avenue for research"

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d*1
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国内真是骗子的天堂。昨天我吃了一种国内家里人买的要。吃完了上网一查吓了一跳,
居然赫然是国外的违禁药物。
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G*s
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美国的报道说肖氏手术在中国完全是一个普通标准手术
太不可思议了

【在 d********1 的大作中提到】
: 似乎肖已经成功地忽悠了好几个医院了。
: 有亚特兰大,弗罗里达至少。

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k*z
12
肘子们又胜利了,好大的快感
可惜,人家还在做肖的手术,肖的手术还在推广,你们除了快感, 有任何收获吗?
有本事让人家不要做,去呀
如果我猜的不错,这个声明是肘子们轮番轰炸这个网站的结果
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G*s
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不知道你的快感来自于哪里

【在 k****z 的大作中提到】
: 肘子们又胜利了,好大的快感
: 可惜,人家还在做肖的手术,肖的手术还在推广,你们除了快感, 有任何收获吗?
: 有本事让人家不要做,去呀
: 如果我猜的不错,这个声明是肘子们轮番轰炸这个网站的结果

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M*u
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卫生部也不出面啊,这肖传国这样害人还不停手术,方舟子打官司输了不说,还害得方
玄昌挨揍,热闹。

【在 k****z 的大作中提到】
: 肘子们又胜利了,好大的快感
: 可惜,人家还在做肖的手术,肖的手术还在推广,你们除了快感, 有任何收获吗?
: 有本事让人家不要做,去呀
: 如果我猜的不错,这个声明是肘子们轮番轰炸这个网站的结果

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k*z
15
我没有快感,看到的是一群人希望有人倒霉,希望手术完全失败

【在 G*********s 的大作中提到】
: 不知道你的快感来自于哪里
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G*s
16
君子坦荡荡,小人常戚戚
不知道是那一群人在希望赚这种黑心钱

【在 k****z 的大作中提到】
: 我没有快感,看到的是一群人希望有人倒霉,希望手术完全失败
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k*z
17
同意:
君子坦荡荡,小人常戚戚
黑心昧良心的会倒霉的,等着瞧吧
有些人没有正业,却活的滋润,中美来回,希望不要是那的黑心钱呀,会遭报应

【在 G*********s 的大作中提到】
: 君子坦荡荡,小人常戚戚
: 不知道是那一群人在希望赚这种黑心钱

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G*s
18
看了一下上面的论坛,确实有个说去中国作了,却没有了下文

bladder
procedure,

【在 G*********s 的大作中提到】
: Main point:
: 北美的结果与中国的结果不符。肖传国的外衣在美国也快要被戳穿了。
: However, the results in North America as measured by improvement in bladder
: function and continence have not yet matched the results in China.
: http://sophiesvoicefoundation.org/home.html
: A STATEMENT ABOUT THE XIAO PROCEDURE SURGICAL TRIAL
: Since its inception, Sophie's Voice Foundation has closely monitored nerve
: rerouting surgery for bladder reinnervation as an avenue for research and
: treatment of children with spina bifida. Initial reports of this procedure,
: which was developed in China, suggested a very good success rate so that

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a*o
19
No offence. But in English, "can" means a positive possibility. For an
operation practiced in a hospital, the wording should be "have successfully
brought".

【在 k*******2 的大作中提到】
: "At this point, there is evidence that nerve rerouting can successfully
: bring
: new functional nerves into the bladder. This means that nerve rerouting
: should remain an important avenue for research"

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