m*x
14 楼
你一旦被证明说了谎就会失去法官和陪审团的信任
r*i
19 楼
你说的是两种情况对比:
i) A把B往死里打,B用一枪结果了他以阻止A把B打死。
ii) B用枪威胁要杀死A,A上前徒手把B打死。
区别在于,ii)的情况,除非A会如来神掌一发把B打死,通常在把B打死前B就会无力反
击了。如果B无力反击了A还继续打,就不是“防卫”了。
i) A把B往死里打,B用一枪结果了他以阻止A把B打死。
ii) B用枪威胁要杀死A,A上前徒手把B打死。
区别在于,ii)的情况,除非A会如来神掌一发把B打死,通常在把B打死前B就会无力反
击了。如果B无力反击了A还继续打,就不是“防卫”了。
b*6
20 楼
所以说一出手就得搞死,搞死了随你怎么说
c*3
24 楼
You are right. This is the case!
所以说一出手就得搞死,搞死了随George Zimmerman怎么说.
ZT
George Zimmerman Is Lying
by Conceptual Guerilla
Watching the Zimmerman trial, the images coming out of the courtroom seem to
be convincing some media observers that Zimmerman's self-defense claim is
colorable.
Zimmerman's case is that Martin jumped out some bushes, said "what's your
problem," and then punched Zimmerman. According to Zimmerman, Martin then
jumped on top of Zimmerman and began slamming his head into the sidewalk ...
leaving no blood, and causing no concussion.
This is becoming the media's narrative, making the case whether Zimmerman
was in sufficient danger to warrant using deadly force.
There is just one problem with Zimmerman's defense. He's lying about who
was the aggressor in starting the fight. He's lying, and the proof is right
in front of everybody.
Let me just lay out the relevant facts and evidence. It's very simple.
Trayvon Martin was on the phone when the fight started. He was talking to
Rachel Jeantel.
You don't have to believe Rachel Jeantel, there are phone records that show
the call. Furthermore, her description of the call are entirely consistent
with the known facts. Here is what she said about the call -- the only
thing you need to know.
“Trayvon said, ‘What, are you following me for,’ and the man said, ‘What
are you doing here?’ Next thing I hear is somebody pushing, and somebody
pushed Trayvon because the head set just fell. I called him again, and he
didn’t answer the phone.
We know that Zimmerman was following Trayvon Martin.
So it is entirely believable that Martin would ask "why are you following me
."
We know that Zimmerman suspected Martin of being a burglar or something. We
know that Zimmerman complained about "these assholes always get[ting] away."
So it is entirely believable that Zimmerman said "what are your doing around
here?"
And we know that Zimmerman and Martin fought each other .... making it
entirely believable that Rachel Jeantel heard them scuffling.
That's all you need to know to make George Zimmerman a liar. Phone records
show Martin on the phone with Rachel Jeantel, and Jeantel testifies to facts
that are entirely consistent with undisputed facts.
Trayvon was on the phone with Rachel Jeantel. Which makes Zimmermans story
about Martin jumping out of bushes so much hogwash. It also disproves
Zimmerman's claim that Martin threw the first punch. Martin was talking on
the phone. Talking on the phone and starting fights are mutually exclusive
activities.
And that's it. Zimmerman's a liar. Whatever he says about any alleged
attack, whatever he says about being punched in the nose, whatever he says
about the "danger" he was in, whatever he says to make out his self-defense
claim, George Zimmerman is a liar. Beyond a reasonable doubt.
Do not underestimate the value of proving that George Zimmerman is a liar.
In order to acquit him, the jury must first believe him.
所以说一出手就得搞死,搞死了随George Zimmerman怎么说.
ZT
George Zimmerman Is Lying
by Conceptual Guerilla
Watching the Zimmerman trial, the images coming out of the courtroom seem to
be convincing some media observers that Zimmerman's self-defense claim is
colorable.
Zimmerman's case is that Martin jumped out some bushes, said "what's your
problem," and then punched Zimmerman. According to Zimmerman, Martin then
jumped on top of Zimmerman and began slamming his head into the sidewalk ...
leaving no blood, and causing no concussion.
This is becoming the media's narrative, making the case whether Zimmerman
was in sufficient danger to warrant using deadly force.
There is just one problem with Zimmerman's defense. He's lying about who
was the aggressor in starting the fight. He's lying, and the proof is right
in front of everybody.
Let me just lay out the relevant facts and evidence. It's very simple.
Trayvon Martin was on the phone when the fight started. He was talking to
Rachel Jeantel.
You don't have to believe Rachel Jeantel, there are phone records that show
the call. Furthermore, her description of the call are entirely consistent
with the known facts. Here is what she said about the call -- the only
thing you need to know.
“Trayvon said, ‘What, are you following me for,’ and the man said, ‘What
are you doing here?’ Next thing I hear is somebody pushing, and somebody
pushed Trayvon because the head set just fell. I called him again, and he
didn’t answer the phone.
We know that Zimmerman was following Trayvon Martin.
So it is entirely believable that Martin would ask "why are you following me
."
We know that Zimmerman suspected Martin of being a burglar or something. We
know that Zimmerman complained about "these assholes always get[ting] away."
So it is entirely believable that Zimmerman said "what are your doing around
here?"
And we know that Zimmerman and Martin fought each other .... making it
entirely believable that Rachel Jeantel heard them scuffling.
That's all you need to know to make George Zimmerman a liar. Phone records
show Martin on the phone with Rachel Jeantel, and Jeantel testifies to facts
that are entirely consistent with undisputed facts.
Trayvon was on the phone with Rachel Jeantel. Which makes Zimmermans story
about Martin jumping out of bushes so much hogwash. It also disproves
Zimmerman's claim that Martin threw the first punch. Martin was talking on
the phone. Talking on the phone and starting fights are mutually exclusive
activities.
And that's it. Zimmerman's a liar. Whatever he says about any alleged
attack, whatever he says about being punched in the nose, whatever he says
about the "danger" he was in, whatever he says to make out his self-defense
claim, George Zimmerman is a liar. Beyond a reasonable doubt.
Do not underestimate the value of proving that George Zimmerman is a liar.
In order to acquit him, the jury must first believe him.
g*a
25 楼
on the phone and start fighting are not mutually exclusive, especially when
you are using headset. Why you can't fight when both of your hands are free?
It is a fact that GZ was wounded. It is also a fact that TM was not.
to
【在 c****3 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: You are right. This is the case!
: 所以说一出手就得搞死,搞死了随George Zimmerman怎么说.
: ZT
: George Zimmerman Is Lying
: by Conceptual Guerilla
: Watching the Zimmerman trial, the images coming out of the courtroom seem to
: be convincing some media observers that Zimmerman's self-defense claim is
: colorable.
: Zimmerman's case is that Martin jumped out some bushes, said "what's your
: problem," and then punched Zimmerman. According to Zimmerman, Martin then
you are using headset. Why you can't fight when both of your hands are free?
It is a fact that GZ was wounded. It is also a fact that TM was not.
to
【在 c****3 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: You are right. This is the case!
: 所以说一出手就得搞死,搞死了随George Zimmerman怎么说.
: ZT
: George Zimmerman Is Lying
: by Conceptual Guerilla
: Watching the Zimmerman trial, the images coming out of the courtroom seem to
: be convincing some media observers that Zimmerman's self-defense claim is
: colorable.
: Zimmerman's case is that Martin jumped out some bushes, said "what's your
: problem," and then punched Zimmerman. According to Zimmerman, Martin then
c*c
27 楼
我靠,如果芝麻人在先掏枪且意识情形行为自主的情况下还被马丁打得遍体零伤致死,
那马丁是练北斗神拳的么?这种假设完全不可能成立,比南京徐老太的那个更没有下限
那马丁是练北斗神拳的么?这种假设完全不可能成立,比南京徐老太的那个更没有下限
y*d
28 楼
如果造成z掏枪的原因是trayvon自己那就不行,first aggressor
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