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l*9
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【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: lqm1989 (Jeremy Lin), 信区: Military
标 题: zt George Zimmerman Is Lying
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Jul 16 11:20:22 2013, 美东)
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/07/03/1220799/-George-Zimmer
George Zimmerman Is Lying
by Conceptual Guerilla
Watching the Zimmerman trial, the images coming out of the courtroom seem to
be convincing some media observers that Zimmerman's self-defense claim is
colorable.
Zimmerman's case is that Martin jumped out some bushes, said "what's your
problem," and then punched Zimmerman. According to Zimmerman, Martin then
jumped on top of Zimmerman and began slamming his head into the sidewalk ...
leaving no blood, and causing no concussion.
This is becoming the media's narrative, making the case whether Zimmerman
was in sufficient danger to warrant using deadly force.
There is just one problem with Zimmerman's defense. He's lying about who
was the aggressor in starting the fight. He's lying, and the proof is right
in front of everybody.
Let me just lay out the relevant facts and evidence. It's very simple.
Trayvon Martin was on the phone when the fight started. He was talking to
Rachel Jeantel.
You don't have to believe Rachel Jeantel, there are phone records that show
the call. Furthermore, her description of the call are entirely consistent
with the known facts. Here is what she said about the call -- the only
thing you need to know.
“Trayvon said, ‘What, are you following me for,’ and the man said, ‘What
are you doing here?’ Next thing I hear is somebody pushing, and somebody
pushed Trayvon because the head set just fell. I called him again, and he
didn’t answer the phone.
We know that Zimmerman was following Trayvon Martin.
So it is entirely believable that Martin would ask "why are you following me
."
We know that Zimmerman suspected Martin of being a burglar or something. We
know that Zimmerman complained about "these assholes always get[ting] away."
So it is entirely believable that Zimmerman said "what are your doing around
here?"
And we know that Zimmerman and Martin fought each other .... making it
entirely believable that Rachel Jeantel heard them scuffling.
That's all you need to know to make George Zimmerman a liar. Phone records
show Martin on the phone with Rachel Jeantel, and Jeantel testifies to facts
that are entirely consistent with undisputed facts.
Trayvon was on the phone with Rachel Jeantel. Which makes Zimmermans story
about Martin jumping out of bushes so much hogwash. It also disproves
Zimmerman's claim that Martin threw the first punch. Martin was talking on
the phone. Talking on the phone and starting fights are mutually exclusive
activities.
And that's it. Zimmerman's a liar. Whatever he says about any alleged
attack, whatever he says about being punched in the nose, whatever he says
about the "danger" he was in, whatever he says to make out his self-defense
claim, George Zimmerman is a liar. Beyond a reasonable doubt.
Do not underestimate the value of proving that George Zimmerman is a liar.
In order to acquit him, the jury must first believe him.
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m*x
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if it is true, why the lawyer did not ask zimmerman about it on the court?
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a*u
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估计收钱了

【在 m**x 的大作中提到】
: if it is true, why the lawyer did not ask zimmerman about it on the court?
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G*s
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不是说有伤吗,
这人怎么说没有

【在 a**********u 的大作中提到】
: 估计收钱了
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v*v
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by Conceptual Guerilla
如果一只手拿着电话跟打架就是mutually exclusive,不知道那些两只手拿着木棍的人
怎么打架的。。。
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l*9
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地面没有血迹,tm手上没有血迹,zimmerman伤势轻微,不排除是自伤

【在 G*********s 的大作中提到】
: 不是说有伤吗,
: 这人怎么说没有

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m*x
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你不可能边打电话边跟人干仗吧?

【在 v***v 的大作中提到】
: by Conceptual Guerilla
: 如果一只手拿着电话跟打架就是mutually exclusive,不知道那些两只手拿着木棍的人
: 怎么打架的。。。

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m*x
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这倒是

【在 l*****9 的大作中提到】
: 地面没有血迹,tm手上没有血迹,zimmerman伤势轻微,不排除是自伤
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m*y
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你怎么这么认为?

【在 l*****9 的大作中提到】
: 地面没有血迹,tm手上没有血迹,zimmerman伤势轻微,不排除是自伤
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l*9
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zimmerman 是暴力犯罪惯犯

【在 m********y 的大作中提到】
: 你怎么这么认为?
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f*k
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电话是几点几分结束的,打架是几点几分开始的?
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l*9
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http://www.talkleft.com/story/2013/7/1/92244/82226/crimenews/Tr
Rachel calls back at 7:12:06 pm, and the call ends 218 seconds later (3 min.
38 seconds) or at 7:15:44. Witness 11,the first 911 caller, got through at
7:16:11. The gunshot was around 7:16:53. So there was about one minute in
between the time Martin's phone disconnected and the gunshot.
According to the event reports(here and here) from the Seminole County
Communications Center, George Zimmerman connected with the non-emergency
number at 7:09:34. The FBI's version of the transcript says the call lasted
4 minutes and 10 seconds, but the last few seconds were dead time, which
means that Zimmerman didn't hang up with non-emergency until 7:13:40. Thus,
there was just over 2 minutes in between the time Zimmerman hung up with non
-emergency and the time Rachel and Martin's final call ended. (We don’t
know is how many seconds elapsed between when Rachel says Trayvon’s headset
fell off and the end of the call.)

【在 f******k 的大作中提到】
: 电话是几点几分结束的,打架是几点几分开始的?
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y*d
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里面说是耳机

【在 m**x 的大作中提到】
: 你不可能边打电话边跟人干仗吧?
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