chances are that "dama" badmouthed first and might refer to his child too. If she didn't say anything, of course most of people will apologize. But if she immediately started to say bad words such as the old man's "your child vs dog" thing, I will definitely jump to a defend mode instead apologizing. Initially it was a no-big-deal thing. To me, whoever overreacted first was responsible for what followed. That old man is definitely some stupid moron, trying to show off his courage . If the young man is twice-sized, I doubt he would even give a fart.