Z*S
2 楼
some rat poisons are made of thallium sulfate, although not any more.
There have been several similar poisonings later, one happened in BD,
others were done by people without formal chemistry training, ie. a hair
dresser.
Apparently if there is a will, there is a way. Although it is a controlled
substance, people can still get it.
【在 s*****7 的大作中提到】
: 这个一般人弄不到吧
: 不如搞点敌敌畏
There have been several similar poisonings later, one happened in BD,
others were done by people without formal chemistry training, ie. a hair
dresser.
Apparently if there is a will, there is a way. Although it is a controlled
substance, people can still get it.
【在 s*****7 的大作中提到】
: 这个一般人弄不到吧
: 不如搞点敌敌畏
s*l
3 楼
你这些说法在几年前sw跳出来的那轮就讨论过了,可能性早排除了。
当时市面上卖的多种常见鼠药,根本就不含铊。
zl的这个案子,普及了大众关于铊的认识。之后有不懂化学的拿铊投毒,是可以想见的
。在那之前,大家都不知道铊是什么东西。
【在 Z**S 的大作中提到】
: some rat poisons are made of thallium sulfate, although not any more.
: There have been several similar poisonings later, one happened in BD,
: others were done by people without formal chemistry training, ie. a hair
: dresser.
: Apparently if there is a will, there is a way. Although it is a controlled
: substance, people can still get it.
当时市面上卖的多种常见鼠药,根本就不含铊。
zl的这个案子,普及了大众关于铊的认识。之后有不懂化学的拿铊投毒,是可以想见的
。在那之前,大家都不知道铊是什么东西。
【在 Z**S 的大作中提到】
: some rat poisons are made of thallium sulfate, although not any more.
: There have been several similar poisonings later, one happened in BD,
: others were done by people without formal chemistry training, ie. a hair
: dresser.
: Apparently if there is a will, there is a way. Although it is a controlled
: substance, people can still get it.
Z*S
4 楼
What about not 常见鼠药?
Hehe, I happened to know about the thallium effect even though
I am not a chem major. There seems to be an English novel about
a wife killing her husband using Ta. This case happened in a chem
class. You can not assume nobody knows about the vicious side of Ta.
【在 s****l 的大作中提到】
: 你这些说法在几年前sw跳出来的那轮就讨论过了,可能性早排除了。
: 当时市面上卖的多种常见鼠药,根本就不含铊。
: zl的这个案子,普及了大众关于铊的认识。之后有不懂化学的拿铊投毒,是可以想见的
: 。在那之前,大家都不知道铊是什么东西。
Hehe, I happened to know about the thallium effect even though
I am not a chem major. There seems to be an English novel about
a wife killing her husband using Ta. This case happened in a chem
class. You can not assume nobody knows about the vicious side of Ta.
【在 s****l 的大作中提到】
: 你这些说法在几年前sw跳出来的那轮就讨论过了,可能性早排除了。
: 当时市面上卖的多种常见鼠药,根本就不含铊。
: zl的这个案子,普及了大众关于铊的认识。之后有不懂化学的拿铊投毒,是可以想见的
: 。在那之前,大家都不知道铊是什么东西。
s*l
5 楼
没说所有人都不知道。你是哪年知道的?
不常见鼠药能得到又能频频接触到zl的能有几个?
你说的这点破事警察早想到了,你以为北京警察都是吃干饭的?
【在 Z**S 的大作中提到】
: What about not 常见鼠药?
: Hehe, I happened to know about the thallium effect even though
: I am not a chem major. There seems to be an English novel about
: a wife killing her husband using Ta. This case happened in a chem
: class. You can not assume nobody knows about the vicious side of Ta.
不常见鼠药能得到又能频频接触到zl的能有几个?
你说的这点破事警察早想到了,你以为北京警察都是吃干饭的?
【在 Z**S 的大作中提到】
: What about not 常见鼠药?
: Hehe, I happened to know about the thallium effect even though
: I am not a chem major. There seems to be an English novel about
: a wife killing her husband using Ta. This case happened in a chem
: class. You can not assume nobody knows about the vicious side of Ta.
s*l
6 楼
还有人说,即使不常见鼠药也不可能有。说“卖的老鼠药含铊就跟说你们家铝锅里有铀
235一样可笑。”懂行的来说说?
【在 Z**S 的大作中提到】
: What about not 常见鼠药?
: Hehe, I happened to know about the thallium effect even though
: I am not a chem major. There seems to be an English novel about
: a wife killing her husband using Ta. This case happened in a chem
: class. You can not assume nobody knows about the vicious side of Ta.
235一样可笑。”懂行的来说说?
【在 Z**S 的大作中提到】
: What about not 常见鼠药?
: Hehe, I happened to know about the thallium effect even though
: I am not a chem major. There seems to be an English novel about
: a wife killing her husband using Ta. This case happened in a chem
: class. You can not assume nobody knows about the vicious side of Ta.
Z*S
7 楼
Again, if you trust the police, you should trust their conclusion
that SW is no longer a suspect. By now, SW's connections are
all retired/dead, why cannot they release their "pressures from the
top"? The only explanation is that there was none, and that
they simply can not find any evidence to nail down SW.
【在 s****l 的大作中提到】
: 没说所有人都不知道。你是哪年知道的?
: 不常见鼠药能得到又能频频接触到zl的能有几个?
: 你说的这点破事警察早想到了,你以为北京警察都是吃干饭的?
that SW is no longer a suspect. By now, SW's connections are
all retired/dead, why cannot they release their "pressures from the
top"? The only explanation is that there was none, and that
they simply can not find any evidence to nail down SW.
【在 s****l 的大作中提到】
: 没说所有人都不知道。你是哪年知道的?
: 不常见鼠药能得到又能频频接触到zl的能有几个?
: 你说的这点破事警察早想到了,你以为北京警察都是吃干饭的?
Z*S
8 楼
Please, do some research. Thallium sulfate was once a rat poison.
It is still used in ant killing kits, taking advantage of the fact that it
is
tasteless and odorless, the ants happily carry the thallium+sugar mixture
back to their queen. and .......
【在 s****l 的大作中提到】
: 还有人说,即使不常见鼠药也不可能有。说“卖的老鼠药含铊就跟说你们家铝锅里有铀
: 235一样可笑。”懂行的来说说?
It is still used in ant killing kits, taking advantage of the fact that it
is
tasteless and odorless, the ants happily carry the thallium+sugar mixture
back to their queen. and .......
【在 s****l 的大作中提到】
: 还有人说,即使不常见鼠药也不可能有。说“卖的老鼠药含铊就跟说你们家铝锅里有铀
: 235一样可笑。”懂行的来说说?
s*l
10 楼
警察们有这个结论么?我听到的结论就是sw是凶手。之后案子封存了,没有结论,只有
那句著名的“放了?还是装到麻袋里拖出去打死。”
就算sw的connection退休了又怎样?你要不要试试去前主席家门口骂骂他?
【在 Z**S 的大作中提到】
: Again, if you trust the police, you should trust their conclusion
: that SW is no longer a suspect. By now, SW's connections are
: all retired/dead, why cannot they release their "pressures from the
: top"? The only explanation is that there was none, and that
: they simply can not find any evidence to nail down SW.
那句著名的“放了?还是装到麻袋里拖出去打死。”
就算sw的connection退休了又怎样?你要不要试试去前主席家门口骂骂他?
【在 Z**S 的大作中提到】
: Again, if you trust the police, you should trust their conclusion
: that SW is no longer a suspect. By now, SW's connections are
: all retired/dead, why cannot they release their "pressures from the
: top"? The only explanation is that there was none, and that
: they simply can not find any evidence to nail down SW.
Z*S
11 楼
hehe. When did the police say sw是凶手?
Dont' say you heard the Zhu family or Bei said it.
I understand their grief, but it is stupid to believe their version.
Don't you notice non of ZL's classmates support this accusation?
【在 s****l 的大作中提到】
: 警察们有这个结论么?我听到的结论就是sw是凶手。之后案子封存了,没有结论,只有
: 那句著名的“放了?还是装到麻袋里拖出去打死。”
: 就算sw的connection退休了又怎样?你要不要试试去前主席家门口骂骂他?
Dont' say you heard the Zhu family or Bei said it.
I understand their grief, but it is stupid to believe their version.
Don't you notice non of ZL's classmates support this accusation?
【在 s****l 的大作中提到】
: 警察们有这个结论么?我听到的结论就是sw是凶手。之后案子封存了,没有结论,只有
: 那句著名的“放了?还是装到麻袋里拖出去打死。”
: 就算sw的connection退休了又怎样?你要不要试试去前主席家门口骂骂他?
s*l
13 楼
是啊,大家现在的唯一寄托就是有别的势力把这事捅出来。但其实可能性不大。
Z*S
14 楼
exactly.
g*a
15 楼
无仇无怨的,为啥要去翻老账?人都已经死了,再把这种事情拿出来去鞭尸,对自己的
政治前途有任何作用吗?难道就因为我跟他是不同的派系就一定要把对方打倒在地?别
说混政治这个圈子的,就算是没混政治这个圈子的,都说不出你这么脑残的话。
政治前途有任何作用吗?难道就因为我跟他是不同的派系就一定要把对方打倒在地?别
说混政治这个圈子的,就算是没混政治这个圈子的,都说不出你这么脑残的话。
s*l
18 楼
就是因为求的人来头大,才能罩得住这个案子。可是又是因为来头大,sw家又不能反复
去求 -- 难道给你保出来了我还要帮你去找媒体打招呼?而且刚开始的时候互联网还没
有很盛行,大家还没在网上议论。网上议论是后来的了,孙家已经不能回头再去求人封
杀议论了,否则就是太不知趣了,人家也不会理会。
至于势力强,搞的人很多,势力强的政治势力不少啊,啥时候让咱们老百姓看见他们互
相搏杀了?
去求 -- 难道给你保出来了我还要帮你去找媒体打招呼?而且刚开始的时候互联网还没
有很盛行,大家还没在网上议论。网上议论是后来的了,孙家已经不能回头再去求人封
杀议论了,否则就是太不知趣了,人家也不会理会。
至于势力强,搞的人很多,势力强的政治势力不少啊,啥时候让咱们老百姓看见他们互
相搏杀了?
s*y
20 楼
追溯期很快就要过了。。。
网络暴民们也就跟风点火发发帖子嘴巴爽一下,不会真的有几个人想到要去关心一下他
的家人,捐点钱,让他们稍微过的舒服点;也不会有人热血到会四处查找证据
网络暴民们也就跟风点火发发帖子嘴巴爽一下,不会真的有几个人想到要去关心一下他
的家人,捐点钱,让他们稍微过的舒服点;也不会有人热血到会四处查找证据
n*e
26 楼
转个隔壁的帖子
n*e
29 楼
补一个link,孙维 朱令的同学都在里面
http://sunshiyan.spaces.live.com/default.aspx?sa=859832686
http://sunshiyan.spaces.live.com/default.aspx?sa=859832686
l*t
32 楼
转一个分析回答楼主的问题:
http://tieba.baidu.com/f?kz=724151782
1。我支持贝至诚。
2。 理由如下:
1)有人说,是外面人干的,那好:我不是学化学的,现在你给我指定 好哪一个楼
是化学楼,你告诉我哪一层的实验室里有重金属。
好! 我的确能成功地进去了,但是 ,哪一个瓶子里装的是金属铊呢?另外
,这个词我一直发音成tuo,到昨天为止才有一个化学系的 人纠正我,那字儿不念tuo
,念ta。 你可以说我智商低下,但我确实是美国 排名第一学府里的而且是正宗的理
工科的研究生。我想请问,如果我这个层次的人都无法确定哪一个瓶子装的是金 属铊
,而且连这个词的发音都需要化学系的人来纠正的话,那么你们有什么理由去无端指向
外面的人,甚至还有人 提到也许是外面的民工干的呢?
我也许可以成功地偷出了一种东西,但是实话实说 ,我并不知道这个东西
叫什么,是什么,至于它的危害原理,深层地想想看,有些化学 物品,也许 是辐射性
很强的,我就这么拿着也许是放射性物质在我自 己手上,我是不是有神经病啊? 一个
不 懂化学的
http://tieba.baidu.com/f?kz=724151782
1。我支持贝至诚。
2。 理由如下:
1)有人说,是外面人干的,那好:我不是学化学的,现在你给我指定 好哪一个楼
是化学楼,你告诉我哪一层的实验室里有重金属。
好! 我的确能成功地进去了,但是 ,哪一个瓶子里装的是金属铊呢?另外
,这个词我一直发音成tuo,到昨天为止才有一个化学系的 人纠正我,那字儿不念tuo
,念ta。 你可以说我智商低下,但我确实是美国 排名第一学府里的而且是正宗的理
工科的研究生。我想请问,如果我这个层次的人都无法确定哪一个瓶子装的是金 属铊
,而且连这个词的发音都需要化学系的人来纠正的话,那么你们有什么理由去无端指向
外面的人,甚至还有人 提到也许是外面的民工干的呢?
我也许可以成功地偷出了一种东西,但是实话实说 ,我并不知道这个东西
叫什么,是什么,至于它的危害原理,深层地想想看,有些化学 物品,也许 是辐射性
很强的,我就这么拿着也许是放射性物质在我自 己手上,我是不是有神经病啊? 一个
不 懂化学的
n*e
33 楼
转一个当年天涯上的帖子 是一个老公安针对朱令案写的
警察不是傻子 可惜 TG是人治 不是法治
警察不是傻子 可惜 TG是人治 不是法治
c*r
34 楼
她体内的铊量要买好几公斤老鼠药。。。
如果她买过,警方当年不可能不知道
大家怀疑中国民主化进程我不反对,但是不能同时怀疑国家机器的能力吧
【在 Z**S 的大作中提到】
: some rat poisons are made of thallium sulfate, although not any more.
: There have been several similar poisonings later, one happened in BD,
: others were done by people without formal chemistry training, ie. a hair
: dresser.
: Apparently if there is a will, there is a way. Although it is a controlled
: substance, people can still get it.
如果她买过,警方当年不可能不知道
大家怀疑中国民主化进程我不反对,但是不能同时怀疑国家机器的能力吧
【在 Z**S 的大作中提到】
: some rat poisons are made of thallium sulfate, although not any more.
: There have been several similar poisonings later, one happened in BD,
: others were done by people without formal chemistry training, ie. a hair
: dresser.
: Apparently if there is a will, there is a way. Although it is a controlled
: substance, people can still get it.
j*g
36 楼
How do you know none of ZL'S classmates support her? Saying nothing doesn't
mean supporting sun wei. Shut up!!
【在 Z**S 的大作中提到】
: hehe. When did the police say sw是凶手?
: Dont' say you heard the Zhu family or Bei said it.
: I understand their grief, but it is stupid to believe their version.
: Don't you notice non of ZL's classmates support this accusation?
mean supporting sun wei. Shut up!!
【在 Z**S 的大作中提到】
: hehe. When did the police say sw是凶手?
: Dont' say you heard the Zhu family or Bei said it.
: I understand their grief, but it is stupid to believe their version.
: Don't you notice non of ZL's classmates support this accusation?
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