"尼玛的长大了才知道谁才是假抗日 This is what you said that indicate to me that you were brain washed the other way. TG's location and strength during the war dictated that they couldn't really fight a regular set piece battle with the Japanese. If they did, they would have been wiped out in short order. The guerrilla warfare was their only option, and they carried it out extensively enough that Japanese occupation force considered them grave threat to their ability to utilize the resources in the occupied region. If you say CCP never attacks Japanese strongholds, and never suffers heavy casulties in their battles is indication of them "not fighting Japanese", then you are just ignorant of how war should be fought. Only stupid commanders attack better armed, better trained enemies in their fortified positions. Only stupid people consider getting more people killed in battle as a sign of active fighting. Quoting George Patton: "It is a popular idea that a man is a hero just because he was killed in action. Rather, I think, a man is frequently a fool when he gets killed." "I want you to remember that no bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor, dumb bastard die for his country. "
【在 x****u 的大作中提到】 : : "尼玛的长大了才知道谁才是假抗日 : This is what you said that indicate to me that you were brain washed the : other way. : TG's location and strength during the war dictated that they couldn't really : fight a regular set piece battle with the Japanese. If they did, they : would have been wiped out in short order. The guerrilla warfare was their : only option, and they carried it out extensively enough that Japanese : occupation force considered them grave threat to their ability to utilize : the resources in the occupied region.
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you just proved yourself to be one of the stupid people I talked about. You are completely ignorant of the historic facts and just talk out of your ass. The criticism Peng got was primarily for ordering an attack on a fortified position which resulted in unacceptable number of casualties.
【在 x****u 的大作中提到】 : : you just proved yourself to be one of the stupid people I talked about. You : are completely ignorant of the historic facts and just talk out of your ass. : The criticism Peng got was primarily for ordering an attack on a fortified : position which resulted in unacceptable number of casualties.
呵呵,你有没有想过洗脑的是不是你自己呢 我从来没说CCP NEVER attacked Japs,你不要把你臆想的话安插到别人的嘴上 我只是说TG在的教科书里面是颠倒了国共在抗日战场上的重要性,如果按你说的,既然 当年连个正儿八经的仗都打不了,为什么我们被教育的都是所谓TG才是全面抗战,国军 是片面,这什么歪理。你后面一大桶废话和这个有什么关系 另外TG有没有能力和位置去really fight a regular set piece battle with Japs和 这个帖子的主题半毛钱关系都没有,我关心的是 第一,无论实力如何,他们有没有全心全力去抗战,有没有蓄意怠战却暗自积蓄力量, 参看毛多次讲话 第二,他们现在有没有资格去代表抗战胜利,有没有全面恢复国军的抗战功绩 你说了半天都离题万里,还莫名其妙来了段巴顿的话,完全是为了辩论而辩论,我真服 了这搅浆糊的功力
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【在 x****u 的大作中提到】 : : you just proved yourself to be one of the stupid people I talked about. You : are completely ignorant of the historic facts and just talk out of your ass. : The criticism Peng got was primarily for ordering an attack on a fortified : position which resulted in unacceptable number of casualties.
I never said you said "CCP NEVER attacked Japs",你不要把你臆想的话安插到别 人的嘴上. I only said you were brain washed if you think the CCP was " faking the war with Japan". Why do you think strengthen oneself during war is "蓄意怠战"? What kind of a moron would think it's good strategy to get weaker in a war? And what kind of a moron would think Japan willingly let CCP get stronger? Weren't all of the "liberated zones" that CCP created carved out from Japanese occupied zones? Weren't most of the arms used by CCP troops captured from Japanese and the puppet forces? If CCP can carve out that kind of territory and capture that much equipments when they were "not fighting", what does that say about KMT forces that were losing territories right up until near end of the war (1944), and lost so much supplies that the captured supplies supported most of the Japanese operations during that campaign? With that kind of battle record, who in their right mind wouldn't question whether KMT was really fighting the war with Japan?
【在 s*******e 的大作中提到】 : 呵呵,你有没有想过洗脑的是不是你自己呢 : 我从来没说CCP NEVER attacked Japs,你不要把你臆想的话安插到别人的嘴上 : 我只是说TG在的教科书里面是颠倒了国共在抗日战场上的重要性,如果按你说的,既然 : 当年连个正儿八经的仗都打不了,为什么我们被教育的都是所谓TG才是全面抗战,国军 : 是片面,这什么歪理。你后面一大桶废话和这个有什么关系 : 另外TG有没有能力和位置去really fight a regular set piece battle with Japs和 : 这个帖子的主题半毛钱关系都没有,我关心的是 : 第一,无论实力如何,他们有没有全心全力去抗战,有没有蓄意怠战却暗自积蓄力量, : 参看毛多次讲话 : 第二,他们现在有没有资格去代表抗战胜利,有没有全面恢复国军的抗战功绩
你果然洗的彻底,粉TG粉的连诡辩术都一模一样 你自己的原话 If you say CCP never attacks Japanese strongholds, and never suffers heavy casulties in their battles is indication of them "not fighting Japanese", then you are just ignorant of how war should be fought. 你都把If按到我头上了,转头有说你never said, 何必呢,哥们儿,辩论也有点底线吧 至于蓄意怠战,参见毛自己的论述,包括后来打到彭的罪状之一 至于国统区解放区,回去查查人口和面积以及对全国经济的重要性 为什么CCP都在日占区,那还不是因为只是打个游击没什么威胁么 所谓解放区大部分CCP根本没有效统治的地区 无非就敌进我扰这种 真正有效统治的只有陕北延安,还不算在日占区 真有威胁了,能不灭么 难道你天真的看了TG解放后的画地图就真深以为然?洗得这叫一干净
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【在 x****u 的大作中提到】 : : I never said you said "CCP NEVER attacked Japs",你不要把你臆想的话安插到别 : 人的嘴上. I only said you were brain washed if you think the CCP was " : faking the war with Japan". : Why do you think strengthen oneself during war is "蓄意怠战"? What kind of : a moron would think it's good strategy to get weaker in a war? And what : kind of a moron would think Japan willingly let CCP get stronger? Weren't : all of the "liberated zones" that CCP created carved out from Japanese : occupied zones? Weren't most of the arms used by CCP troops captured from : Japanese and the puppet forces?
"If you say CCP never attacks Japanese strongholds" Hmm. if I made that up and you never meant to say that, then I guess you mean CCP DID attack Japanese strongholds. Yet you still claim CCP didn't fight Japanese. LOL. Enjoy slapping your own face much?
【在 s*******e 的大作中提到】 : 你果然洗的彻底,粉TG粉的连诡辩术都一模一样 : 你自己的原话 : If you say CCP never attacks Japanese strongholds, and never suffers heavy : casulties in their battles is indication of them "not fighting Japanese", : then you are just ignorant of how war should be fought. : 你都把If按到我头上了,转头有说你never said, : 何必呢,哥们儿,辩论也有点底线吧 : 至于蓄意怠战,参见毛自己的论述,包括后来打到彭的罪状之一 : 至于国统区解放区,回去查查人口和面积以及对全国经济的重要性 : 为什么CCP都在日占区,那还不是因为只是打个游击没什么威胁么
【在 x****u 的大作中提到】 : : "If you say CCP never attacks Japanese strongholds" : Hmm. if I made that up and you never meant to say that, then I guess you : mean CCP DID attack Japanese strongholds. : Yet you still claim CCP didn't fight Japanese. LOL. Enjoy slapping your : own face much?
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So you really meant to say CCP didn't attack Japanese, just that you don't want to use the language that directly say it. I get it, I get it. Lying to yourself is what you people do best. I get it.