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发信人: cmis91 (dontknow), 信区: TexasHoldem
标 题: 我是如何拿下Poker Stars周日百万赛冠军的
关键字: PokerStars SundayMillion 8202名参赛者 冠军$246K
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Nov 13 15:03:46 2010, 美东)
(pic. provided by fryking, lol)
First briefly describe the course how I reach the final table. At the very
beginning of tourney, I got double up over someone’s donkey move. After
that, my AA 3 bet preflop, villain call and hit bottom two pairs, we went
all in and fortunately I catched higher two pairs at river and suck him out.
With 3X starting chips, I cruised all the way with healthy chips until
around 100 players remain when the blinds increase faster than the chips I
can accumulate. After my AK lost to an AQ all in, my chips dropped below the
average. Then there was not much room for me to make a move. I started to
play tight, occasionally pick up a spot to steal blinds. Eventually, my luck
Goddness came. My AQ sucked out other’s QQ, my AK doubled through other’s
KQ, my pocket fives 5-bet let my opponent lay his hand down. So I went to
the final table as the chip leader.
The follows are what I was thinking when I sat at the final table.
Personally, I think I played the final table very well, but I wouldn’t say
every hand I played is an optimal move. Until now, for some hand I am not
sure whether that’s the right move. Any discussion is more than welcome.
The highlight show of the final table can be found at
http://www.pokerstars.tv/poker-video-6287-online-poker-show-sunday-million-august-8th-2010.html?channel_id=93 .
It contains many key elements to play MTT, especially at the late stage of a big tourney.
1. 3-bet and 4-bet
At the late stage of a tourney, the blinds and antes is around 5% of the
average chip stack. So many players attempt to steal this huge dead money
and hence they open with very marginal hands. Nowadays, people have noticed
this and started to 3 bet and resteal the dead money. The key to 3-bet is to
pick up the right person ( image, stack, position and so on). The timing of
3-bet is crucial. Also, it is better that you have a read on villain and
feel that he has a high chance to fold to your 3-bet. 4-bet is rarely used.
But if you have a very strong hand or a gut read on your opponent, go for it.
At this final table, I observed that most players play very cautiously
except Tonimonntana. He opened a lot of pot light and more importantly he
doesn’t like play marginally hands to 3-bet and most of times will fold to
3-bet. In addition, I feel he doesn’t want to get too entangled with chip
leader. Therefore,I pick up Tonimonntana to execute my 3 bet resteal plan.
Hand 8, 30, 32, 66 , whenever I feel his bet is weak, I don’t hesitate to
3-bet him.
Hand 53, Tonimonntana 3-bet me with 2.5 million, I just feel that the exact
2.5 million is so suspicious and he wouldn’t respond so quickly with an
exact number if he held a monster. Thus, I 4-bet shove all in with my AJ.
2. Continuation bet, double barrel and fire the third bullet (pot control)
Whenever you think the flop is unlikely to hit your opponent hard, you
should c-bet.
Hand 8. Tonimonntana called my 3 bet and the flop came as A 2 3, if he doesn
’t have an ace, I will definitely take the pot down right there. If he had
ace, it is easy for me to back off. So this is a good spot to c-bet.
On the other hand, we should know that the continuation bet /double barrel
will blow up the pot and easily let us pot committed. So sometimes, pot
control is also necessary. But the downside of pot control is to give your
opponent free cards.
Hand 5, I raise with Js,Jh from UTG+2, Tonimonntana call from BB, the
board is Kh, Tc, 9d. One overcard on board. Most of times, I should bet
here. However, I really don’t know what to do if he check-raise me. Before
I move to the final table, I haven’t played a single hand with Tonimonntana
and I have no read on him. If I call his check-raise, the pot would be
blown to about 5 million and there are 2 streets coming. I am the chip
leader and he is the second largest. So I take the safe route, control the
pot and give him a free card. As you can see in the video, the free card hit
him and I lost a big pot. (what’s your thought? my friend, c-bet or pot
control at flop?)
Hand 91, I open with 8h, 6h from button. Board is Jh,4d,9h. With flush draw,
c-bet is obviously in place. Turn 9d. Tonimonntana checked, I think he
either has the jack , pocket Ts, 8s, or on a flush or straight draw. Which
one? Have to bet to find out. So I double barrel it. The river is 4c. His
call on the turn makes me uncomfortable, but his check assures me he doesn’
t have 9 or 4. So 50% chance he has jack and the other 50% he has busted
draw. So I only bet 1/4 of pot to give me positive expected value. If he
doesn’t have the jack, he will fold to my 1/4 pot bet; if he does have, I
only lose 1/4 pot.
3. Squeeze play
Hand 49, if a player opens light and another player just call instead raise,
which means his hand is also not that strong, you can 3 bet (I squeezed
with 6 9 offsuit, haha). The original raiser is afraid of your hand and also
the action from other caller behind him. He probably folds. Since the other
caller’s hand is not strong, he probably folds as well. Be careful,
nowadays some experienced players holding monster hands just call a light
raiser to induce squeeze play from late position.
4. Induce bluff
Hand 34, I opened the pot with AQ from UTG+1. Pocketnizzles 3 bets.
Although he had TAG image, but I had been loosely 3-betting so much, it is
likely that he tried to fight back. I put him on 88 + or AT+. 1.4 million
to flat his 3-bet and the pot is 3.9 million. I have 1/3 chance to hit-my A
or Q and if I hit it I think I am probably ahead. Of course, he might have
AA KK and I might go broke. But I decided to gamble here. Bingo, the flop
gave me the nuts. The rest is to design your betting amount to extract as
much value as you can. I check, he put a very small bet there. I think he
either completely miss or hold KK/AA. Considering a couple of hands ago (
Hand 15), I check-raise-fold Snow in June and the board is also unlikely hit
my hands, I decide to min check raise him to show weakness and induce him
bluffing me. But he didn’t reraise me, so I put him on a possible straight
or flush draw. I bet big on turn to shut down his draws. I guess he
misinterpreted my hand as a draw and think his shove can let me fold my
draws. Unfortunately for him, I have a monster hand.
5. Stone cold bluff
Stone cold bluff relies mostly on your read and courage.
Hand 74, we play down to 4 players. As said by the commentator, I feel that
the other 3 players are intimidated by my aggressive play. Off course, I can
open Qs, 5s from SB. The flop comes Ah, 9c, 3h. Blank!! I open a c-bet to
represent ace followed by a reraise from Snow. But from his response timing
and betting amount, I have a very strong feeling he is hesitating to put
chips in. He has something and want to fight back but is afraid of my
ensuing action. I put him on a pair of 9 (he actually had flush draw). Thus,
I decide to put the pressure back on him and 4 bet him and it worked.
Hand 15, when stone cold bluff doesn’t work and your opponent has
legitimate hand, you need to find an exit quickly. I called a min raise from
BB, board came as A 7 2 rainbow, I check raised Snow, hoping he held middle
pocket pair or suited connector. Unfortunately, it did not work out and I
lost many chips ;( . When your bluff failed, you need to be brave to
continue to make your move based on your instinct.
Many players at the final table pay too much attention to the hugh money
jump. So the aggressive play usually pays off. Hoever, some of the play you
see in the video is hard to use at the early stage of tourneys or in low buy
-in games. We need to adapt our play based on our opponents.
发信人: cmis91 (dontknow), 信区: TexasHoldem
标 题: 我是如何拿下Poker Stars周日百万赛冠军的
关键字: PokerStars SundayMillion 8202名参赛者 冠军$246K
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Nov 13 15:03:46 2010, 美东)
(pic. provided by fryking, lol)
First briefly describe the course how I reach the final table. At the very
beginning of tourney, I got double up over someone’s donkey move. After
that, my AA 3 bet preflop, villain call and hit bottom two pairs, we went
all in and fortunately I catched higher two pairs at river and suck him out.
With 3X starting chips, I cruised all the way with healthy chips until
around 100 players remain when the blinds increase faster than the chips I
can accumulate. After my AK lost to an AQ all in, my chips dropped below the
average. Then there was not much room for me to make a move. I started to
play tight, occasionally pick up a spot to steal blinds. Eventually, my luck
Goddness came. My AQ sucked out other’s QQ, my AK doubled through other’s
KQ, my pocket fives 5-bet let my opponent lay his hand down. So I went to
the final table as the chip leader.
The follows are what I was thinking when I sat at the final table.
Personally, I think I played the final table very well, but I wouldn’t say
every hand I played is an optimal move. Until now, for some hand I am not
sure whether that’s the right move. Any discussion is more than welcome.
The highlight show of the final table can be found at
http://www.pokerstars.tv/poker-video-6287-online-poker-show-sunday-million-august-8th-2010.html?channel_id=93 .
It contains many key elements to play MTT, especially at the late stage of a big tourney.
1. 3-bet and 4-bet
At the late stage of a tourney, the blinds and antes is around 5% of the
average chip stack. So many players attempt to steal this huge dead money
and hence they open with very marginal hands. Nowadays, people have noticed
this and started to 3 bet and resteal the dead money. The key to 3-bet is to
pick up the right person ( image, stack, position and so on). The timing of
3-bet is crucial. Also, it is better that you have a read on villain and
feel that he has a high chance to fold to your 3-bet. 4-bet is rarely used.
But if you have a very strong hand or a gut read on your opponent, go for it.
At this final table, I observed that most players play very cautiously
except Tonimonntana. He opened a lot of pot light and more importantly he
doesn’t like play marginally hands to 3-bet and most of times will fold to
3-bet. In addition, I feel he doesn’t want to get too entangled with chip
leader. Therefore,I pick up Tonimonntana to execute my 3 bet resteal plan.
Hand 8, 30, 32, 66 , whenever I feel his bet is weak, I don’t hesitate to
3-bet him.
Hand 53, Tonimonntana 3-bet me with 2.5 million, I just feel that the exact
2.5 million is so suspicious and he wouldn’t respond so quickly with an
exact number if he held a monster. Thus, I 4-bet shove all in with my AJ.
2. Continuation bet, double barrel and fire the third bullet (pot control)
Whenever you think the flop is unlikely to hit your opponent hard, you
should c-bet.
Hand 8. Tonimonntana called my 3 bet and the flop came as A 2 3, if he doesn
’t have an ace, I will definitely take the pot down right there. If he had
ace, it is easy for me to back off. So this is a good spot to c-bet.
On the other hand, we should know that the continuation bet /double barrel
will blow up the pot and easily let us pot committed. So sometimes, pot
control is also necessary. But the downside of pot control is to give your
opponent free cards.
Hand 5, I raise with Js,Jh from UTG+2, Tonimonntana call from BB, the
board is Kh, Tc, 9d. One overcard on board. Most of times, I should bet
here. However, I really don’t know what to do if he check-raise me. Before
I move to the final table, I haven’t played a single hand with Tonimonntana
and I have no read on him. If I call his check-raise, the pot would be
blown to about 5 million and there are 2 streets coming. I am the chip
leader and he is the second largest. So I take the safe route, control the
pot and give him a free card. As you can see in the video, the free card hit
him and I lost a big pot. (what’s your thought? my friend, c-bet or pot
control at flop?)
Hand 91, I open with 8h, 6h from button. Board is Jh,4d,9h. With flush draw,
c-bet is obviously in place. Turn 9d. Tonimonntana checked, I think he
either has the jack , pocket Ts, 8s, or on a flush or straight draw. Which
one? Have to bet to find out. So I double barrel it. The river is 4c. His
call on the turn makes me uncomfortable, but his check assures me he doesn’
t have 9 or 4. So 50% chance he has jack and the other 50% he has busted
draw. So I only bet 1/4 of pot to give me positive expected value. If he
doesn’t have the jack, he will fold to my 1/4 pot bet; if he does have, I
only lose 1/4 pot.
3. Squeeze play
Hand 49, if a player opens light and another player just call instead raise,
which means his hand is also not that strong, you can 3 bet (I squeezed
with 6 9 offsuit, haha). The original raiser is afraid of your hand and also
the action from other caller behind him. He probably folds. Since the other
caller’s hand is not strong, he probably folds as well. Be careful,
nowadays some experienced players holding monster hands just call a light
raiser to induce squeeze play from late position.
4. Induce bluff
Hand 34, I opened the pot with AQ from UTG+1. Pocketnizzles 3 bets.
Although he had TAG image, but I had been loosely 3-betting so much, it is
likely that he tried to fight back. I put him on 88 + or AT+. 1.4 million
to flat his 3-bet and the pot is 3.9 million. I have 1/3 chance to hit-my A
or Q and if I hit it I think I am probably ahead. Of course, he might have
AA KK and I might go broke. But I decided to gamble here. Bingo, the flop
gave me the nuts. The rest is to design your betting amount to extract as
much value as you can. I check, he put a very small bet there. I think he
either completely miss or hold KK/AA. Considering a couple of hands ago (
Hand 15), I check-raise-fold Snow in June and the board is also unlikely hit
my hands, I decide to min check raise him to show weakness and induce him
bluffing me. But he didn’t reraise me, so I put him on a possible straight
or flush draw. I bet big on turn to shut down his draws. I guess he
misinterpreted my hand as a draw and think his shove can let me fold my
draws. Unfortunately for him, I have a monster hand.
5. Stone cold bluff
Stone cold bluff relies mostly on your read and courage.
Hand 74, we play down to 4 players. As said by the commentator, I feel that
the other 3 players are intimidated by my aggressive play. Off course, I can
open Qs, 5s from SB. The flop comes Ah, 9c, 3h. Blank!! I open a c-bet to
represent ace followed by a reraise from Snow. But from his response timing
and betting amount, I have a very strong feeling he is hesitating to put
chips in. He has something and want to fight back but is afraid of my
ensuing action. I put him on a pair of 9 (he actually had flush draw). Thus,
I decide to put the pressure back on him and 4 bet him and it worked.
Hand 15, when stone cold bluff doesn’t work and your opponent has
legitimate hand, you need to find an exit quickly. I called a min raise from
BB, board came as A 7 2 rainbow, I check raised Snow, hoping he held middle
pocket pair or suited connector. Unfortunately, it did not work out and I
lost many chips ;( . When your bluff failed, you need to be brave to
continue to make your move based on your instinct.
Many players at the final table pay too much attention to the hugh money
jump. So the aggressive play usually pays off. Hoever, some of the play you
see in the video is hard to use at the early stage of tourneys or in low buy
-in games. We need to adapt our play based on our opponents.