Confused：四大不管办绿卡吗？# Accounting - 会计审计
A*e
1 楼
妈妈这几天嘴巴里起了个莫名其妙的像是血泡的东西，在右脸颊里侧的那个地方，但是
不痛不痒，就是觉得有点麻木。不像是烫的，也不像是上火。请问可能是什么情况？谢
谢！因为不是emergency,所以买的旅行保险不cover。
不痛不痒，就是觉得有点麻木。不像是烫的，也不像是上火。请问可能是什么情况？谢
谢！因为不是emergency,所以买的旅行保险不cover。
e*e
2 楼
那去四大的xdjms怎么解决身份问题？都是做一两年就跑到小firm里？
c*k
3 楼
90%都是靠另一半来办的。
现在在四大里用EB3越来越难办了。
现在在四大里用EB3越来越难办了。
e*e
4 楼
能熬到EB2办吗？还是根本就没戏？k，日子越来越难混了。
c*k
5 楼
现在连manager都不能办EB2了。还有谣言说从现在开始H1-B也不extend了。没什么中国
人指望着Big4办绿卡的。
如果你spouse不能帮你办的话，实在没有什么必要在big 4里熬。当然如果你想回国发
展的话也无所谓。
人指望着Big4办绿卡的。
如果你spouse不能帮你办的话，实在没有什么必要在big 4里熬。当然如果你想回国发
展的话也无所谓。
e*e
6 楼
这样啊，听着真惨。看来要准备去小firm混绿卡了。
多谢你的回复！！
多谢你的回复！！
t*u
7 楼
even if they do, you have to stay with the firm for certain amount of time
after u get green card
【在 e****e 的大作中提到】
: 那去四大的xdjms怎么解决身份问题？都是做一两年就跑到小firm里？
after u get green card
【在 e****e 的大作中提到】
: 那去四大的xdjms怎么解决身份问题？都是做一两年就跑到小firm里？
s*t
8 楼
还是小公司灵活.
c*r
9 楼
看来大家去big4也只是为了绿卡啊，日子艰难啊
我当初想着大部分人都雄心壮志想去big4磨练自己，害得我非常惭愧，为了自己不去
big4的决定还自责半天，说自己怎么这么没上进心:(
我当初想着大部分人都雄心壮志想去big4磨练自己，害得我非常惭愧，为了自己不去
big4的决定还自责半天，说自己怎么这么没上进心:(
l*u
10 楼
綠卡加磨練都有啊
如果我可以靠另一半辦綠卡
我就去做年薪三四萬,準點下班的工作.
何必一天做十幾小時
如果我可以靠另一半辦綠卡
我就去做年薪三四萬,準點下班的工作.
何必一天做十幾小時
Y*y
11 楼
you have to wait till Sr manager level in order to do EB2, other wise, EB3.
but when you reached Sr. manager level, your H1-b must have been maxed out.
but when you reached Sr. manager level, your H1-b must have been maxed out.
p*m
12 楼
So, avoid big 4 -- 1) No money 2) No GC. 3) No Life.
g*t
13 楼
I will say depends.
Normally staff 1 to senior level, they only do EB3.
Manager above EB2.
Also depends on what practice you are in. Diffent handling between assurance
,and advisory , especially.
【在 e****e 的大作中提到】
: 那去四大的xdjms怎么解决身份问题？都是做一两年就跑到小firm里？
Normally staff 1 to senior level, they only do EB3.
Manager above EB2.
Also depends on what practice you are in. Diffent handling between assurance
,and advisory , especially.
【在 e****e 的大作中提到】
: 那去四大的xdjms怎么解决身份问题？都是做一两年就跑到小firm里？
l*8
14 楼
办EB2还是EB3不是由学位和工作经验决定的吗，为啥大家硕士毕业了进4大还跟labor工
一起拼那个EB3？是4大自己定的？
一起拼那个EB3？是4大自己定的？
d*e
15 楼
我朋友都manager还eb3呢:s
has
accounting get GC through NIW, while there are many engineers or bio-major
go for NIW. How could one justify natural interest waiver with pure
accounting job? Himself/herself will
has
accounting get GC through NIW, while there are many engineers or bio-major
go for NIW. How could one justify natural interest waiver with pure
accounting job? Himself/herself will
A*7
16 楼
我现在马上要开始在四大上班，一直以为可以先定下心来一阵子。但绿卡四大估计指望
不上。。。现在面临一个新抉择，就是，要不要去申请Accounting PhD？
现在主要想问：如果拿了PhD 然后找教职，可以申EB-2 PERM 吧？高校教职的工作应该
容易申PERM 一点？而且会计找教职应该比生物，物理什么的稍微容易些（我口语还可
以）？？？
问题是我对 academic path 不是很感兴趣呀。。。最后不行了可能也由不得我。
不上。。。现在面临一个新抉择，就是，要不要去申请Accounting PhD？
现在主要想问：如果拿了PhD 然后找教职，可以申EB-2 PERM 吧？高校教职的工作应该
容易申PERM 一点？而且会计找教职应该比生物，物理什么的稍微容易些（我口语还可
以）？？？
问题是我对 academic path 不是很感兴趣呀。。。最后不行了可能也由不得我。
c*k
17 楼
去读Accounting Ph.D 是个很艰苦的过程，当然投资回报率很高。出来的薪水赶上四大
里面的Sr. Manager 的水平了。
在四大里面对communication要求高，再高也高不过在商学院里的教授的要求。如果
academic适合你的话，我相信这是个更好的前景。
里面的Sr. Manager 的水平了。
在四大里面对communication要求高，再高也高不过在商学院里的教授的要求。如果
academic适合你的话，我相信这是个更好的前景。
a*n
18 楼
Accounting PhD demand >> supply. Much easier to find a faculty
position than other areas.
The problem is ... you probably can't get in... hehe.
【在 A*******7 的大作中提到】
: 我现在马上要开始在四大上班，一直以为可以先定下心来一阵子。但绿卡四大估计指望
: 不上。。。现在面临一个新抉择，就是，要不要去申请Accounting PhD？
: 现在主要想问：如果拿了PhD 然后找教职，可以申EB-2 PERM 吧？高校教职的工作应该
: 容易申PERM 一点？而且会计找教职应该比生物，物理什么的稍微容易些（我口语还可
: 以）？？？
: 问题是我对 academic path 不是很感兴趣呀。。。最后不行了可能也由不得我。
position than other areas.
The problem is ... you probably can't get in... hehe.
【在 A*******7 的大作中提到】
: 我现在马上要开始在四大上班，一直以为可以先定下心来一阵子。但绿卡四大估计指望
: 不上。。。现在面临一个新抉择，就是，要不要去申请Accounting PhD？
: 现在主要想问：如果拿了PhD 然后找教职，可以申EB-2 PERM 吧？高校教职的工作应该
: 容易申PERM 一点？而且会计找教职应该比生物，物理什么的稍微容易些（我口语还可
: 以）？？？
: 问题是我对 academic path 不是很感兴趣呀。。。最后不行了可能也由不得我。
A*7
19 楼
Accounting PhD 很难申请吗？
如果我不寻求进什么特别好的学校，也很难申吗？
这个问题我问过一两个人，好像有说“易进难出”的，也有说“难进易出”的，好像都
不太清楚似的。
如果这里有人知道的话，恳请解答。谢了。
如果我不寻求进什么特别好的学校，也很难申吗？
这个问题我问过一两个人，好像有说“易进难出”的，也有说“难进易出”的，好像都
不太清楚似的。
如果这里有人知道的话，恳请解答。谢了。
A*7
20 楼
会计PhD 特别难申请哦？为什么？谢谢alan
【在 a**n 的大作中提到】
: Accounting PhD demand >> supply. Much easier to find a faculty
: position than other areas.
: The problem is ... you probably can't get in... hehe.
【在 a**n 的大作中提到】
: Accounting PhD demand >> supply. Much easier to find a faculty
: position than other areas.
: The problem is ... you probably can't get in... hehe.
a*o
21 楼
没所谓啦，每个人都有属于自己的幸福
你几时毕业阿
【在 c******r 的大作中提到】
: 看来大家去big4也只是为了绿卡啊，日子艰难啊
: 我当初想着大部分人都雄心壮志想去big4磨练自己，害得我非常惭愧，为了自己不去
: big4的决定还自责半天，说自己怎么这么没上进心:(
你几时毕业阿
【在 c******r 的大作中提到】
: 看来大家去big4也只是为了绿卡啊，日子艰难啊
: 我当初想着大部分人都雄心壮志想去big4磨练自己，害得我非常惭愧，为了自己不去
: big4的决定还自责半天，说自己怎么这么没上进心:(
b*y
22 楼
办。我在四大，EB2，可是好像时间会很慢。得有耐心。
c*e
23 楼
天哪，诸位，为了一个绿卡，何至于这样呢
人生往往就是如此
顺其自然吧
保不齐EB3还没熬到
美国就跨了呢
人生往往就是如此
顺其自然吧
保不齐EB3还没熬到
美国就跨了呢
a*e
24 楼
Big 4 do sponsor greencard application, however, not a lot of Chinese from
my observation stay long enough at the firms to realize their GC dream.
I dunno about other big 4s, but Deloitte and Touche's consulting practice
does EB2 for foreign employees, including entry-level positions, b/c a
master degree is the minimum requirement in the consulting practice. For
the audit, tax and FAS practices, they do EB3 for all foreign employees
unless you come in as a manager and above. I can't speak for o
my observation stay long enough at the firms to realize their GC dream.
I dunno about other big 4s, but Deloitte and Touche's consulting practice
does EB2 for foreign employees, including entry-level positions, b/c a
master degree is the minimum requirement in the consulting practice. For
the audit, tax and FAS practices, they do EB3 for all foreign employees
unless you come in as a manager and above. I can't speak for o
j*h
25 楼
you are definitely entitled to your opinion, but at the same time, i don't
believe working at big 4s necessary means a miserable life. i have been with
one of the big 4s many years, definitely a lot of hard work, but it's also
very rewarding. if i had to do it all over again, i won't change a thing.
practices
big
【在 a*******e 的大作中提到】
: Big 4 do sponsor greencard application, however, not a lot of Chinese from
: my observation stay long enough at the firms to realize their GC dream.
: I dunno about other big 4s, but Deloitte and Touche's consulting practice
: does EB2 for foreign employees, including entry-level positions, b/c a
: master degree is the minimum requirement in the consulting practice. For
: the audit, tax and FAS practices, they do EB3 for all foreign employees
: unless you come in as a manager and above. I can't speak for o
believe working at big 4s necessary means a miserable life. i have been with
one of the big 4s many years, definitely a lot of hard work, but it's also
very rewarding. if i had to do it all over again, i won't change a thing.
practices
big
【在 a*******e 的大作中提到】
: Big 4 do sponsor greencard application, however, not a lot of Chinese from
: my observation stay long enough at the firms to realize their GC dream.
: I dunno about other big 4s, but Deloitte and Touche's consulting practice
: does EB2 for foreign employees, including entry-level positions, b/c a
: master degree is the minimum requirement in the consulting practice. For
: the audit, tax and FAS practices, they do EB3 for all foreign employees
: unless you come in as a manager and above. I can't speak for o
a*e
26 楼
Dont take it the wrong way. By no means do I think working at big 4s is non-rewarding.
I'd like to rephase what I said - when one wants to quit a job (in this case
, a job at big 4) as he doesnt feel like doing it but he cannot because he
doesnt afford to lose sth else (getting the greencard, in this instance),
sth that he sees more important, it sucks.
with
also
【在 j**h 的大作中提到】
: you are definitely entitled to your opinion, but at the same time, i don't
: believe working at big 4s necessary means a miserable life. i have been with
: one of the big 4s many years, definitely a lot of hard work, but it's also
: very rewarding. if i had to do it all over again, i won't change a thing.
:
: practices
: big
I'd like to rephase what I said - when one wants to quit a job (in this case
, a job at big 4) as he doesnt feel like doing it but he cannot because he
doesnt afford to lose sth else (getting the greencard, in this instance),
sth that he sees more important, it sucks.
with
also
【在 j**h 的大作中提到】
: you are definitely entitled to your opinion, but at the same time, i don't
: believe working at big 4s necessary means a miserable life. i have been with
: one of the big 4s many years, definitely a lot of hard work, but it's also
: very rewarding. if i had to do it all over again, i won't change a thing.
:
: practices
: big
c*r
27 楼
呵呵，再过一个星期。你的interview如何了？
【在 a*********o 的大作中提到】
: 没所谓啦，每个人都有属于自己的幸福
: 你几时毕业阿
【在 a*********o 的大作中提到】
: 没所谓啦，每个人都有属于自己的幸福
: 你几时毕业阿
a*e
28 楼
Right, i was kidding. It should be the "rewarding life" :)
j*h
29 楼
I am happy at big 4 and i am not kidding.
a*e
30 楼
There you go. That's the spirit :)
【在 j**h 的大作中提到】
: I am happy at big 4 and i am not kidding.
【在 j**h 的大作中提到】
: I am happy at big 4 and i am not kidding.
s*6
31 楼
跟偶一摸一样的心情
【在 c******r 的大作中提到】
: 看来大家去big4也只是为了绿卡啊，日子艰难啊
: 我当初想着大部分人都雄心壮志想去big4磨练自己，害得我非常惭愧，为了自己不去
: big4的决定还自责半天，说自己怎么这么没上进心:(
【在 c******r 的大作中提到】
: 看来大家去big4也只是为了绿卡啊，日子艰难啊
: 我当初想着大部分人都雄心壮志想去big4磨练自己，害得我非常惭愧，为了自己不去
: big4的决定还自责半天，说自己怎么这么没上进心:(
m*z
32 楼
如果美国垮了 那你说哪个国家还撑得住？还不垮呢？
【在 c**********e 的大作中提到】
: 天哪，诸位，为了一个绿卡，何至于这样呢
: 人生往往就是如此
: 顺其自然吧
: 保不齐EB3还没熬到
: 美国就跨了呢
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