w*p
2 楼
我老公J1，我是J2，因为怀孕没打算工作，所以没去申请ssn，当然也是因为听说j2申
请ssn非常麻烦。都说可以报税的时候申请ITIN，所以就这样操作了。
结果悲剧了，IRS来信说我的W-7被据了，原因说的比较模糊，说我的文件或者护照无效
或者过期。可是我们反复查，还是觉得我的东西没过期。
后来就打电话，千辛万苦转来转去等了一个多小时，还没等问我的个人信息，先问我是
否满足申请ssn的条件。当时想想，貌似也满足申请ssn的条件，人家就说，这就是原因
，你先申请ssn吧。
我就纳闷，j2报税必须申请ssn吗？再说，申请ssn不是说必须得先申请工卡吗？还是我
理解错了，应该先申请ssn再申请工卡？
如果真的必须申请ssn才能联合报税，那么我们2010年的税怎么算啊？算我老公单独一
人吗？我连dependent都算不上吗？
问题有点复杂，不过心情确实郁闷，来板上求高人指点！包子感谢！
请ssn非常麻烦。都说可以报税的时候申请ITIN，所以就这样操作了。
结果悲剧了，IRS来信说我的W-7被据了，原因说的比较模糊，说我的文件或者护照无效
或者过期。可是我们反复查，还是觉得我的东西没过期。
后来就打电话，千辛万苦转来转去等了一个多小时，还没等问我的个人信息，先问我是
否满足申请ssn的条件。当时想想，貌似也满足申请ssn的条件，人家就说，这就是原因
，你先申请ssn吧。
我就纳闷，j2报税必须申请ssn吗？再说，申请ssn不是说必须得先申请工卡吗？还是我
理解错了，应该先申请ssn再申请工卡？
如果真的必须申请ssn才能联合报税，那么我们2010年的税怎么算啊？算我老公单独一
人吗？我连dependent都算不上吗？
问题有点复杂，不过心情确实郁闷，来板上求高人指点！包子感谢！
p*e
3 楼
如果咸菜痴再不复出，以后我要找机会和跑日对练了，那样的话，咸菜痴的上师名号可
就真被跑日篡夺了。。。
就真被跑日篡夺了。。。
s*9
4 楼
帮别人代购的资金该录入哪个科目？
代购完成后，如何调整？
多谢
代购完成后，如何调整？
多谢
s*u
5 楼
Not possible.
S*I
6 楼
先申请工卡，再申请SSN。
【在 w*****p 的大作中提到】
: 我老公J1，我是J2，因为怀孕没打算工作，所以没去申请ssn，当然也是因为听说j2申
: 请ssn非常麻烦。都说可以报税的时候申请ITIN，所以就这样操作了。
: 结果悲剧了，IRS来信说我的W-7被据了，原因说的比较模糊，说我的文件或者护照无效
: 或者过期。可是我们反复查，还是觉得我的东西没过期。
: 后来就打电话，千辛万苦转来转去等了一个多小时，还没等问我的个人信息，先问我是
: 否满足申请ssn的条件。当时想想，貌似也满足申请ssn的条件，人家就说，这就是原因
: ，你先申请ssn吧。
: 我就纳闷，j2报税必须申请ssn吗？再说，申请ssn不是说必须得先申请工卡吗？还是我
: 理解错了，应该先申请ssn再申请工卡？
: 如果真的必须申请ssn才能联合报税，那么我们2010年的税怎么算啊？算我老公单独一
【在 w*****p 的大作中提到】
: 我老公J1，我是J2，因为怀孕没打算工作，所以没去申请ssn，当然也是因为听说j2申
: 请ssn非常麻烦。都说可以报税的时候申请ITIN，所以就这样操作了。
: 结果悲剧了，IRS来信说我的W-7被据了，原因说的比较模糊，说我的文件或者护照无效
: 或者过期。可是我们反复查，还是觉得我的东西没过期。
: 后来就打电话，千辛万苦转来转去等了一个多小时，还没等问我的个人信息，先问我是
: 否满足申请ssn的条件。当时想想，貌似也满足申请ssn的条件，人家就说，这就是原因
: ，你先申请ssn吧。
: 我就纳闷，j2报税必须申请ssn吗？再说，申请ssn不是说必须得先申请工卡吗？还是我
: 理解错了，应该先申请ssn再申请工卡？
: 如果真的必须申请ssn才能联合报税，那么我们2010年的税怎么算啊？算我老公单独一
w*r
7 楼
赞标题，很有气势
【在 p*****e 的大作中提到】
: 如果咸菜痴再不复出，以后我要找机会和跑日对练了，那样的话，咸菜痴的上师名号可
: 就真被跑日篡夺了。。。
【在 p*****e 的大作中提到】
: 如果咸菜痴再不复出，以后我要找机会和跑日对练了，那样的话，咸菜痴的上师名号可
: 就真被跑日篡夺了。。。
c*a
8 楼
unearned revenue 吧，属于liability
代购完成后，debit unearned revenue, credit revenue/sales
【在 s**********9 的大作中提到】
: 帮别人代购的资金该录入哪个科目？
: 代购完成后，如何调整？
: 多谢
代购完成后，debit unearned revenue, credit revenue/sales
【在 s**********9 的大作中提到】
: 帮别人代购的资金该录入哪个科目？
: 代购完成后，如何调整？
: 多谢
m*p
9 楼
another h1b for that company
【在 a*********t 的大作中提到】
: 如果可以，需要什么手续
【在 a*********t 的大作中提到】
: 如果可以，需要什么手续
w*p
10 楼
那么像我这种不申请工卡的j2，就不满足申请ssn的条件了呗？
那也就是说可以申请ITIN了？
【在 S**I 的大作中提到】
: 先申请工卡，再申请SSN。
那也就是说可以申请ITIN了？
【在 S**I 的大作中提到】
: 先申请工卡，再申请SSN。
q*t
11 楼
What exactly is 帮别人代购?
s*u
12 楼
YOU need talk to company about new H1B or O1 visa. Mostly, companies need
green card or EAD card.
green card or EAD card.
J*9
13 楼
That's the right answer!
Why don't you fellow his/her advice instead of preferring something else!?
You will get the benefits with your SSN esp. you have an addition to your
family in the future.
【在 S**I 的大作中提到】
: 先申请工卡，再申请SSN。
C*8
14 楼
Re this one...you need know how this work before you record it the GL.
【在 q****t 的大作中提到】
: What exactly is 帮别人代购?
【在 q****t 的大作中提到】
: What exactly is 帮别人代购?
s*9
15 楼
谢谢
【在 c*****a 的大作中提到】
: unearned revenue 吧，属于liability
: 代购完成后，debit unearned revenue, credit revenue/sales
【在 c*****a 的大作中提到】
: unearned revenue 吧，属于liability
: 代购完成后，debit unearned revenue, credit revenue/sales
s*9
16 楼
是帮助国内一家公司购买设备。。不是主营业务。
他们把钱汇过来，我们帮其购买。。不知道账上应该怎么走。。。
担心如果算作revenue会影响我们的报税？
不知道说清楚了没？多谢
【在 q****t 的大作中提到】
: What exactly is 帮别人代购?
他们把钱汇过来，我们帮其购买。。不知道账上应该怎么走。。。
担心如果算作revenue会影响我们的报税？
不知道说清楚了没？多谢
【在 q****t 的大作中提到】
: What exactly is 帮别人代购?
m*g
17 楼
这个，显然不是你的revenue么
要么你们抽头拿commission?
【在 s**********9 的大作中提到】
: 是帮助国内一家公司购买设备。。不是主营业务。
: 他们把钱汇过来，我们帮其购买。。不知道账上应该怎么走。。。
: 担心如果算作revenue会影响我们的报税？
: 不知道说清楚了没？多谢
要么你们抽头拿commission?
【在 s**********9 的大作中提到】
: 是帮助国内一家公司购买设备。。不是主营业务。
: 他们把钱汇过来，我们帮其购买。。不知道账上应该怎么走。。。
: 担心如果算作revenue会影响我们的报税？
: 不知道说清楚了没？多谢
C*8
18 楼
when the money come in, book to a exchange account like due to XXX company.
when purchase the item, book AP toward the this due to XXX company account.
if the money = the total purchase amount, then should be wash out. when you
receive the commission, you can book revenue. if the money not = the total
amount. you either request more payment or refund the leftover money. if you
request more payment you can reclass the due to xxx balance to AR acct and
creat a invoice send to them. if you need return the leftover, you either
reclass the due to xxx balance to AP and make payment to them or recognize
this part of due to xxx balance as commission revenue if them allow you to.
not sure if this is the case...
when purchase the item, book AP toward the this due to XXX company account.
if the money = the total purchase amount, then should be wash out. when you
receive the commission, you can book revenue. if the money not = the total
amount. you either request more payment or refund the leftover money. if you
request more payment you can reclass the due to xxx balance to AR acct and
creat a invoice send to them. if you need return the leftover, you either
reclass the due to xxx balance to AP and make payment to them or recognize
this part of due to xxx balance as commission revenue if them allow you to.
not sure if this is the case...
l*9
19 楼
如果不charge commission
Dr: Cash
Cr: AP
Dr: Other Asset
Cr: Cash
Dr: AP
Cr: Other Asset
Charge Commission, only the third entry is different.
Dr: AP
Cr: Commission Revenue
Cr: Other Asset
【在 s**********9 的大作中提到】
: 是帮助国内一家公司购买设备。。不是主营业务。
: 他们把钱汇过来，我们帮其购买。。不知道账上应该怎么走。。。
: 担心如果算作revenue会影响我们的报税？
: 不知道说清楚了没？多谢
Dr: Cash
Cr: AP
Dr: Other Asset
Cr: Cash
Dr: AP
Cr: Other Asset
Charge Commission, only the third entry is different.
Dr: AP
Cr: Commission Revenue
Cr: Other Asset
【在 s**********9 的大作中提到】
: 是帮助国内一家公司购买设备。。不是主营业务。
: 他们把钱汇过来，我们帮其购买。。不知道账上应该怎么走。。。
: 担心如果算作revenue会影响我们的报税？
: 不知道说清楚了没？多谢
C*8
20 楼
I think using AP when receive cash is not a good idea. AP acct is a aging
control acct. normally, AP accountant staff need run AP aging report to see
the payment status. it is not you real AP. Second, when you purchase the
item, it is not your real asset.
【在 l*******9 的大作中提到】
: 如果不charge commission
: Dr: Cash
: Cr: AP
: Dr: Other Asset
: Cr: Cash
: Dr: AP
: Cr: Other Asset
: Charge Commission, only the third entry is different.
: Dr: AP
: Cr: Commission Revenue
control acct. normally, AP accountant staff need run AP aging report to see
the payment status. it is not you real AP. Second, when you purchase the
item, it is not your real asset.
【在 l*******9 的大作中提到】
: 如果不charge commission
: Dr: Cash
: Cr: AP
: Dr: Other Asset
: Cr: Cash
: Dr: AP
: Cr: Other Asset
: Charge Commission, only the third entry is different.
: Dr: AP
: Cr: Commission Revenue
C*8
21 楼
also, normal AP accounting procedure is not like this.
my two cents:
when received cash:
Dr: Cash
Cr: exchange acct( Due to/from acct) or Current Liab
when make the purchase:
Input the Purchase invoice:
Dr: exchange acct...
Cr:AP(20000)
when cut check or transfer money:
Dr: AP(20000)
Cr: Cash
If the money is = purchase total amount,
when exchange acct s/b wash out.
if is not =, then depends.
if > purchase total:
【在 l*******9 的大作中提到】
: 如果不charge commission
: Dr: Cash
: Cr: AP
: Dr: Other Asset
: Cr: Cash
: Dr: AP
: Cr: Other Asset
: Charge Commission, only the third entry is different.
: Dr: AP
: Cr: Commission Revenue
my two cents:
when received cash:
Dr: Cash
Cr: exchange acct( Due to/from acct) or Current Liab
when make the purchase:
Input the Purchase invoice:
Dr: exchange acct...
Cr:AP(20000)
when cut check or transfer money:
Dr: AP(20000)
Cr: Cash
If the money is = purchase total amount,
when exchange acct s/b wash out.
if is not =, then depends.
if > purchase total:
【在 l*******9 的大作中提到】
: 如果不charge commission
: Dr: Cash
: Cr: AP
: Dr: Other Asset
: Cr: Cash
: Dr: AP
: Cr: Other Asset
: Charge Commission, only the third entry is different.
: Dr: AP
: Cr: Commission Revenue
C*8
22 楼
then you can do:
Dr: exchange acct( security deposit xxx company acct)
Cr: AP( to give money back to the company)
comission revenue ( to charge comission)
then you cut a check to pay back the difference:
Dr: AP
Cr: Cash
if Money < Purchase amount,
you could book:
Dr: AR (acct receivable)
Cr:exchange acct ...
comission revenue(if you can charge comission)
then you sent out AR invoice to the company and ask for more money.
when you received the money:
Dr: Cash
Cr: AR
Dr: exchange acct( security deposit xxx company acct)
Cr: AP( to give money back to the company)
comission revenue ( to charge comission)
then you cut a check to pay back the difference:
Dr: AP
Cr: Cash
if Money < Purchase amount,
you could book:
Dr: AR (acct receivable)
Cr:exchange acct ...
comission revenue(if you can charge comission)
then you sent out AR invoice to the company and ask for more money.
when you received the money:
Dr: Cash
Cr: AR
C*8
23 楼
in this way, audit wise and accrual accounting wise you have better track
with the transaction.
imaging, when auditor comes in and see a AP aging report, and the other side
is Cash....and when see the cash disbursement report, see when you cut a
check, the other side is other asset....
with the transaction.
imaging, when auditor comes in and see a AP aging report, and the other side
is Cash....and when see the cash disbursement report, see when you cut a
check, the other side is other asset....
C*8
24 楼
can any auditor answer this question? Cash receipts goes to AP and Cut check
goes to asset???
goes to asset???
l*9
25 楼
..... I'm an auditor from PwC....
My entries are just examples. You can just use temporary accounts instead of AP.
Under PRC GAAP, there is an account called other payable. Under US GAAP, you
can just put it into other liabilities.
side
【在 C******8 的大作中提到】
: in this way, audit wise and accrual accounting wise you have better track
: with the transaction.
: imaging, when auditor comes in and see a AP aging report, and the other side
: is Cash....and when see the cash disbursement report, see when you cut a
: check, the other side is other asset....
My entries are just examples. You can just use temporary accounts instead of AP.
Under PRC GAAP, there is an account called other payable. Under US GAAP, you
can just put it into other liabilities.
side
【在 C******8 的大作中提到】
: in this way, audit wise and accrual accounting wise you have better track
: with the transaction.
: imaging, when auditor comes in and see a AP aging report, and the other side
: is Cash....and when see the cash disbursement report, see when you cut a
: check, the other side is other asset....
l*9
26 楼
BTW... normally we don't care about AP aging report, since most of companies
try to understate liabilities. We do search for unrecorded liabilities
instead.
side
【在 C******8 的大作中提到】
: in this way, audit wise and accrual accounting wise you have better track
: with the transaction.
: imaging, when auditor comes in and see a AP aging report, and the other side
: is Cash....and when see the cash disbursement report, see when you cut a
: check, the other side is other asset....
try to understate liabilities. We do search for unrecorded liabilities
instead.
side
【在 C******8 的大作中提到】
: in this way, audit wise and accrual accounting wise you have better track
: with the transaction.
: imaging, when auditor comes in and see a AP aging report, and the other side
: is Cash....and when see the cash disbursement report, see when you cut a
: check, the other side is other asset....
C*8
27 楼
oh...you coming from PwC....So you do not care about AP aging,. then when
you review company's AP acct and Cash receipts. it that normal to see Cash's
other side is AP? and for Cash disbursement, AP's other side is other asset
? I am not PRC CPA. I do not know PRC GAAP. Under US GAAP, I suggested LZ
using exchange/due to-from/security deposit/current liab acct.
you review company's AP acct and Cash receipts. it that normal to see Cash's
other side is AP? and for Cash disbursement, AP's other side is other asset
? I am not PRC CPA. I do not know PRC GAAP. Under US GAAP, I suggested LZ
using exchange/due to-from/security deposit/current liab acct.
C*8
28 楼
also, I did re this one before:
Re this one...you need know how this work before you record it the GL.
if you want to give out a example, please give out more detail. people could
get confused, since not everyone is on the same page.
【在 q****t 的大作中提到】
: What exactly is 帮别人代购?
Re this one...you need know how this work before you record it the GL.
if you want to give out a example, please give out more detail. people could
get confused, since not everyone is on the same page.
【在 q****t 的大作中提到】
: What exactly is 帮别人代购?
l*9
29 楼
If I saw a really huge AP balance at year-end, I will just ask what's the
balance for. And after getting an understanding of the transaction, I will
ask accountant to show me the accounting entries. If everything is correct,
which means the nature of the transaction is consistent with what client
described (for example, it's not a short term loan) and client also
considered revenue and withholding tax (if applicable), I will just document
what I examined and passed further investigation.
For most of the time, we do not check AP acct with cash receipts. Millions of
transactions will kill us....
If you want to know more about audit strategies, we can discuss too.
:D
's
asset
【在 C******8 的大作中提到】
: oh...you coming from PwC....So you do not care about AP aging,. then when
: you review company's AP acct and Cash receipts. it that normal to see Cash's
: other side is AP? and for Cash disbursement, AP's other side is other asset
: ? I am not PRC CPA. I do not know PRC GAAP. Under US GAAP, I suggested LZ
: using exchange/due to-from/security deposit/current liab acct.
balance for. And after getting an understanding of the transaction, I will
ask accountant to show me the accounting entries. If everything is correct,
which means the nature of the transaction is consistent with what client
described (for example, it's not a short term loan) and client also
considered revenue and withholding tax (if applicable), I will just document
what I examined and passed further investigation.
For most of the time, we do not check AP acct with cash receipts. Millions of
transactions will kill us....
If you want to know more about audit strategies, we can discuss too.
:D
's
asset
【在 C******8 的大作中提到】
: oh...you coming from PwC....So you do not care about AP aging,. then when
: you review company's AP acct and Cash receipts. it that normal to see Cash's
: other side is AP? and for Cash disbursement, AP's other side is other asset
: ? I am not PRC CPA. I do not know PRC GAAP. Under US GAAP, I suggested LZ
: using exchange/due to-from/security deposit/current liab acct.
C*8
30 楼
This has nothing to do with audit strategies. The point is audit trial,
control, accounting procedure. I do not care how your audit strategies are.
LZ is question about how to record in l GL. You have to think in LZ's way.
Right is right, wrong is wrong. You can not say, since auditor does not care
, it is okay to let this kind of error happen. Back to the topic, you say
auditor does not look at cash receipts and cash disbursement, so even your
GE is not right, it is okay for LZ to do so? What if LZ's company does not
have PwC as auditing company?
control, accounting procedure. I do not care how your audit strategies are.
LZ is question about how to record in l GL. You have to think in LZ's way.
Right is right, wrong is wrong. You can not say, since auditor does not care
, it is okay to let this kind of error happen. Back to the topic, you say
auditor does not look at cash receipts and cash disbursement, so even your
GE is not right, it is okay for LZ to do so? What if LZ's company does not
have PwC as auditing company?
C*8
31 楼
好了，好了。我也不想和您瞎掰了。您把问题越扯越远了。您的GE太离谱了。就算是
from PwC auditor，也太离谱。至于，您后面讲的how auditor does not care...just
make up ....public accounting 除了做audit, 也做咨询吧？难道，你们是这样教
company accountant?
算我瞎灌水呗。我呢，不是什么CPA,也不是什么Controller...就一个打酱油的。
from PwC auditor，也太离谱。至于，您后面讲的how auditor does not care...just
make up ....public accounting 除了做audit, 也做咨询吧？难道，你们是这样教
company accountant?
算我瞎灌水呗。我呢，不是什么CPA,也不是什么Controller...就一个打酱油的。
c*i
32 楼
我觉得19楼说的最有道理。
汗！这门课去年学得不是很熟。
汗！这门课去年学得不是很熟。
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