you are full of BS. almost everything you said is BS if it were so easy, why Audi/BMW/Benz are announcing products to be in the market in the next few years with specs lower than current Tesla? Are you day-dreaming?
看不下去了。我车库电油车有。电车还真的很简单。中国满街跑的助动车俩轮换成四 轮就行了。作为BBA忠实客户,也一直跟踪他们的电车发展方向。大家目前没有投大笔 资金发展电车,只是觉得电车市场以及电池技术不到位。还在观望阶段。有人说传统车 厂发展电车是自掘坟墓,那是扯淡。BBA客户一般还会stick with BBA,跟油电无关 传统车厂上百年积累的造车经验,发展电车说白了只要把引擎换一下,其他各大部件以 及框架内饰完全可以跟现有油车生产线共享。制造成本和质量完全不是某家纯电车公司 可以去抗衡的
【在 c******a 的大作中提到】 : you are full of BS. almost everything you said is BS : if it were so easy, why Audi/BMW/Benz are announcing products to be in the : market in the next few years with specs lower than current Tesla? Are you : day-dreaming?
f*t
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这些车都还没上市,连具体spec都还没公布,你是如何得出“specs lower than current Tesla”?
【在 c******a 的大作中提到】 : you are full of BS. almost everything you said is BS : if it were so easy, why Audi/BMW/Benz are announcing products to be in the : market in the next few years with specs lower than current Tesla? Are you : day-dreaming?
c*a
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自己去查Audi E-tron, Benz EQC的specs
【在 f******t 的大作中提到】 : 这些车都还没上市,连具体spec都还没公布,你是如何得出“specs lower than : current Tesla”?
未来两年要出的e-tron,还不如Model X现在的range, 加速,还不说没有宣布OTA update,没有宣布自动驾驶,audi在美国现在没有charging network,说了要建其实是 龟速行动。我不知道哪里会有人买这个?说了依赖dealership结果不留inventory cars ,自己都没信心。还没说特斯拉造电车现在赚钱Audi亏钱。而audi其实已经是BBA里面 电车最领先的了。 BBA现在在收获前几年对电车迟迟不投入的恶果。发展下去前景非常不看好。 e-tron去把现在BBA的用户改成电车用户,这个我支持,要抢tesla潜在客户,基本不可 能。 https://insideevs.com/tesla-skeptic-ubs-audi-e-tron/ Titled “Audi e-tron launch – another lap Tesla wins,” and authored by analyst Patrick Hummel, the missive points to an apparent drivetrain inefficiency and the freshly-revealed crossover’s 0-to-60 time (5.5 seconds , .6 seconds slower than the larger Tesla Model X 75D) to make the case the four-rings brand is technologically behind. Said he, While we appreciate that a solid EV product is not only about acceleration and range, there is still a gap to Tesla in the powertrain efficiency ratios that reflect the degree of innovation. The electric powertrain is not a commodity yet and Tesla might be able to sustain its lead for longer. The seemingly poor efficiency is betrayed by the fact that, despite a 95 kWh battery, it supposedly has a range of only 249 miles under the WLTP cycle. The Tesla Model X 75D, despite being larger and carrying 20 kWh less energy storage in its battery pack, has an EPA-rated range of 237 miles. That’s almost assuredly more the E-tron will achieve under that testing regime. Hummel summed up his E-tron criticism with, At the margin, the not-so-impressive key stats could dampen the sales outlook and make it more difficult for Audi (or the premium OEMs in general) to break even with their EVs. This plays into Tesla’s hands and in China, into the hands of the emerging local EV players.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/tesla-has-no-credible-competition-analyst- says-2018-09-17 Tesla has ‘no credible competition,’ analyst says Tesla Inc. faces no competition at present, and when it does it will be able to hold its own, analysts at Bernstein said in a note Monday. And all the hand-wringing about potential rivals for its electric cars glosses over Tesla’s greatest long-term competitive advantage: its “ unparalleled brand,” they said. The rise of competitors by traditional auto makers is often at the heart of a bear case for Tesla TSLA, +2.73% “But let’s make this clear: there is no actual flood of competition coming ,” the analysts, led by Toni Sacconaghi, said. “We tallied up every announced electric vehicle arriving in the U.S. between now and 2022, and the results were stark.”
你觉得,如果e-tron specs还能大幅提升,audi会现在扔出一个0-60 5.5s, range 249 mile的数值吗?Audi车比model X轻,电池装的比model X大,acceleration和range确 都不如model X,这根本就是技术有代差的表现。而model X 75d都推出两三年了。 model X 100D更是可以秒50多万的兰博,现在在BBA内部已经是惶恐,tesla is he who shall not be named。不过,没关系,车托不慌!车托还可以扯淡!怕个鸟! https://qz.com/1058488/a-tesla-model-x-p100d-beat-a-530000-lamborghini- aventador-sv-in-a-drag-race-and-may-have-set-an-suv-speed-record-in-the- process/
【在 c******a 的大作中提到】 : 你觉得,如果e-tron specs还能大幅提升,audi会现在扔出一个0-60 5.5s, range 249 : mile的数值吗?Audi车比model X轻,电池装的比model X大,acceleration和range确 : 都不如model X,这根本就是技术有代差的表现。而model X 75d都推出两三年了。 : model X 100D更是可以秒50多万的兰博,现在在BBA内部已经是惶恐,tesla is he who : shall not be named。不过,没关系,车托不慌!车托还可以扯淡!怕个鸟! : https://qz.com/1058488/a-tesla-model-x-p100d-beat-a-530000-lamborghini- : aventador-sv-in-a-drag-race-and-may-have-set-an-suv-speed-record-in-the- : process/ : : weight