hehe. She is with social science background, and she talked about how being seen, although vulnerable, and believing in loving and belonging, despite being potentially hurt, that can enable one to experience joy in life. Numbing pain numbs joy as well. "Brene Brown is a research professor at the University of Houston Graduate College of Social Work. She has spent the past ten years studying vulnerability, courage, authenticity, and shame. She spent the first five years of her decade-long study focusing on shame and empathy, and is now using that work to explore a concept that she calls Wholeheartedness."