j*a
2 楼
几年前用得挺好 今天拿出来试了试 comcast 50M居然实测才10M 估计这个路由拖后腿
了吧？
了吧？
h*e
3 楼
“在任何学科领域，是否有一个好导师将决定学生的研究生涯初期的成败。” [1]
什么样的导师是好导师呢？2005年，Nature创立了the Nature awards for mentoring
in science，用于表彰在指导研究生方面卓有成效的导师。有关人员广泛收集总结了学
生们对其导师的评价，总结成了给导师的16条建议 [2]，如对学生的智力与能力的尊重
，对学生职业发展（甚至选择非学术道路）的尊重，等等。
下文分别列出这16条建议，并引用学生的comments作为例证。基于我与自己的博士导师
&& 我与本科期间的两个导师的各种经历，我highlight了这些comment里让我深有感触
的地方。在异国求学，一个supportive的好导师是如父亲一般的存在（撒花）~
此外，我认为导师“nice”这个说法太笼统。我认为挑导师主要有两个维度：一个是做
人，一个是治学。真正的好导师，做人方面要正直、得体，尊重学生，让学生如沐春风
，心情愉快，感到个人价值受到认可；做研究方面，要非常responsible，对学生的研
究生涯发展很给力，所以push至少比放羊好一点，让学生紧张一点总比松懈要好——五
年PHD实在是好短哒。
1. Be available：给学生及时的帮助和反馈
"George meets with his students very regularly and is always available to
them. I cannot remember him ever cancelling an appointment with me despite
the tremendous demands on his time (he was Head of Department for some of
the time that I was his student). He reads drafts promptly and provides
clear, constructive comments. He is never negative and never belittles even
the most junior of students."
"Undoubtedly the greatest attribute of Charles's mentorship style is his
accessibility. Rarely in the 6 years I was in his laboratory did I note him
not to have an open door to discuss recent results with anyone from within,
or indeed from outside, her/his laboratory. This availability combined with
Charles's approachable attitude resulted in a mentor that you were not
afraid to speak to, with whatever result you had in hand be it positive or
negative. Even after leaving his laboratory I founds his door was always
open to discuss scientific ideas."
2. Respect：尊重学生的人格和智力
"Mary treats her colleagues, regardless of whether they are doing a PhD or
if they are a fellow Professor, with the same high regard. In doing so, she
inspires confidence in her collaborators."
一般而言，被吐槽的导师都是这一点做得差，把学生当做干活机器。
3. Be generous：无私的分享精神
"Mark's magnanimity in sharing his own ideas and delight in seeing others
succeed has also been an inspiration, not just for myself but for a whole
generation of younger scientists."
"Sally did and still does this by allowing them to run with ideas that she
helped to develop or even produced herself entirely and by allowing them, to
take on senior authorship on important papers even though she could claim
it for herself."
4. Individual difference：每个学生想要追求的人生目标是不同的，每个学生也都有
自己的私人生活
"A mentor needs the ability to create a unique relationship with each member
of the lab. Francis possesses this attribute and sees the strengths and
skills of each individual and then designs projects to suit these strengths.
Her ability to understand that not everyone works in the same way or wants
the same things from their lives enables her to produce the best results
from people."
"Not everybody wants to be a leading researcher and some have skills that
better suit them to other occupations. There is little point in encouraging
young people to take on a career to which they may be unsuited or which
they will find stressful or uninteresting. So I believe it is necessary
sometimes to encourage them into other directions ."
这段话让我非常感动——我觉得这种对个人意志与自由选择的无私尊重，简直是一种伟
大的人性的光辉。正如原文[2]指出，there is more to life that what they do in
the lab. They need freedom to "smell the roses" as one mentee put it. If
things change and appear to be going wrong we need to try and understand why
. If personal life is becoming tough, then give them time and space. Good
mentors make themselves aware of this. Again we are often so busy we don't
notice. 所以，A good supervisor/mentor appreciates these differences and
does not try and fit square pegs in round holes. They know when to back off
and let people make their own decisions and when to come in and offer
support and sympathy.
5. For Life：一日为师，终身为父
"Hassan takes a continuing interest in his students: so, twenty years after
I completed my PhD with him, he is still my first port of call when I have a
thorny issue to discuss, or urgently require a reference - and he has never
let me down."
"Agreeing to supervise a PhD student entails making a commitment to much
more than the day-to-day overview of a series of experiments, or the
development of a programme of analysis that leads to new physical-
mathematical theory. It involves forging rapport with the student that
potentially lasts a lifetime."
6. Actively research：经常亲临一线的研究工作。
Lead from the front, be a researcher your self, white coat on and not desk
bound.
7. Balance direction：又要放手让学生去explore自己的想法和project，又要在需要
的时候给予学生关键性的指导和建议，以此可以有效地提高学生的自主性和能动性。
"As a research supervisor and mentor she/he has an incredible ability to
find the perfect balance between: allowing the student to develop and
explore their own ideas, research plans and projects; providing them with
expert guidance, direction when needed; and most importantly providing the
inspiration to achieve their best."
8. Celebrate：为学生庆祝他们的成功
"Jane sees the importance of bringing people’s social lives and work lives
together. Our lab is always keen to celebrate the achievements of its
members with coffee and cakes; outings for lunch; or BBQs at her house."
"The first time a person comes up with a novel idea or experiment of their
own. This should be an occasion for public recognition within the lab as it
is a milestone of great significance for most young scientists."
9. Building a community：在研究组里培养和谐的关系与社区归属感，鼓励合作而非
竞争
"Eli manages to create a nurturing yet scientifically intense lab atmosphere
that promotes the production of high-quality science without the element of
interpersonal competition that is unfortunately so evident in many
laboratories, particularly here in the United States"
10. Be social：大家一起玩~
"I aim to build team spirit by supporting social events throughout the year
and by celebrating every birthday with a morning or afternoon tea at work.
Originally I organized social events myself, but I now leave the details up
to group members so that we can enjoy a diverse range of events that reflect
the interests of the group, from canoeing to karaoke".
"The most useful single thing I've learned is that chocolate biscuits do
more for everyone's good humour and enthusiasm than any amount of feelgood
talk. The role of blood sugar should probably have been obvious to a
biologist from the outset, but I only learned this by experience. Mind you,
cheerful and encouraging talk are good too, as also are gin and tonic."
11. Create networks：给学生创造合作与展示的机会
"An important catalyst for many of us was Rene’s attitude to networking –
he endeavored to send all his students and postdocs to good scientific
meetings because he realized how important it was for us to start making
connections with peers in our field early in our careers. Right from the
start we were exhorted to take every opportunity to talk to people because
it was a strongly held opinion of his that you learnt just as much at
breakfast conversations and in post-conference drinks as you did from the
presentations themselves. It was not uncommon to hear that he had lobbied
for an opportunity for a postdoc to speak at a conference rather than doing
so himself because he recognized the value of becoming known, especially
given our distance from North America and Europe."
"Elizabeth has maintained contact with her previous students and is quick to
make links between the many people she knows and any project that comes
under her discussion. She encourages collaboration and would very quickly
point to potential collaborators. Liz also would be quick to include
students in on social occasions with high profile scientists visiting the
university. This allowed students to get to know the scientists, and vice
versa, and again served as a time when students could voice their thoughts
and ideas to very knowledgeable and experienced researchers."
小小的comment：我觉得B在这方面可以加强。比如，介绍他的“contacts to promote
their students and young staff”， 比如“when a distinguished scientist
comes to visit the School they, not only introduce them, but also give them
an opportunity to present or discuss their work”，比如，如果B能多给我指点一
些其他学校的合作研究者就更好了。
12. Question & Listen：问好问题，激发好的答案，用一连串的好问题persistently
keeps the questions flowing to help the answer come along
"Rather than directly providing me with interesting ideas, he/she is able to
ask the right questions to allow me to come up with my own theories and
ideas."
"Elspeth makes you feel special. She makes you feel valued and is genuinely
interested in people’s welfare. She doesn’t preach. She questions and
lets you speak. She listens and provides an environment where you can put
forward ideas and then she facilitates the evolution of your own answers."
13. Enhancing criticism：通过各种方式，锻炼学生的批判性思维
"Catherine has focused on equipping people with the skills to be fully
functioning members of the scientific community, able to prepare grant
applications, review manuscripts, speak at conferences and engage with
scientific administrators in a constructive manner. Such a holistic approach
to running a scientific group will ultimately bring enormous benefit to the
group’s alumni, giving them all the skills necessary to carve out their
own niches in the academic world."
"To the uninitiated, the scientific literature is a baffling mass of
conflicting ideas and results, accepted wisdom and false assumptions. The
mentor can help by alerting the new student to papers that he/she considers
of particular interest, and by going over the most pertinent ones with the
student in some detail. It also helps greatly for the laboratory or
department to establish a ‘journal club’ where students regularly take
turns dissecting one or two relevant current papers and their background,
with input from other students and faculty members. Participating in such
discussions can greatly sharpen the student’s critical acumen and judgement
."
这里还有一段更详细的建议，读起来比较高端，离我这种三年级博士生还有很远的感觉
——
“A journal club is one strategy, students should not only participate in
the critique of key papers but they should regularly take the lead by
selecting, reviewing and critiquing papers themselves. Students should be
involved from the beginning in the team's grant applications. They should
also be put in the position of interviewers in mock interviews. They should
take the position of journal referee of papers submitted from the group and
be encouraged to make a decision re acceptance, resubmission or rejection.
The actual reviews that come back then provide the basic for a very rich
discussion. In summary, we should create a situation where our students
practice all the things we do that make us a scientist. "
14. Enhancing writing：锻炼学生的科学写作能力，直到好的writing成为学生的第二
天性
"Given the vital role of publications and grants in any scientific career,
learning to write effectively is an essential key to career advancement.
Therefore, I try diligently to instil the basics of clear scientific writing
. After an extended discussion with the student of the results to be shown
in a paper, I nearly always let him/her prepare the first draft and then
begin the reiterative revision process, using ‘track changes’ to show what
has been done."
所以，一个好的练习是present students with a manuscript they have not seen
with either the abstract, introduction or discussion omitted and getting
them to write their version which can then be compared with the original. 正
如文章[2]指出，“The more writing we give students to do the more we burden
ourselves but that is part of the contract. A positive comment on all the
mentors was that they gave feedback on written work very quickly. Hard to do
but essential.”
15. Enhancing presentation: good readable slides, logical presentation, and
clear speaking
" She also expects students to give practice talks in the group before
presenting at conferences and has developed a good technique for improving
seminar performances through questions and feedback."
"Although few students have a natural gift for giving a scientific talk, all
can learn if given sufficient practice and advice. I always suggest that
the student provide me with a run-through a week or two before a
presentation, to allow sufficient time for revisions."
文章作者还指出，“This was often embarrassing in that the standard of
honours seminars and graduate student presentation was way better than the
presentations of senior staff members the students experienced at
conferences. ”哈哈哈哈。
16. Seek feedback：有什么优点和不足，听听学生怎么说
有胆量的话，把这个“Self-assessment: how good a mentor are you?”丢给你的老
板做吧~
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v447/n7146/fig_tab/447791a
参考文献：
[1] Adrian Lee, Carina Denis and Philip Campbell. Nature's guide for mentors
. Nature 447, 791-797 (14th June 2007)
[2] Adrian Lee and Larry Hulbert. Guidelines on Research Mentoring. http://www.guidelinesonresearchmentoring.com
什么样的导师是好导师呢？2005年，Nature创立了the Nature awards for mentoring
in science，用于表彰在指导研究生方面卓有成效的导师。有关人员广泛收集总结了学
生们对其导师的评价，总结成了给导师的16条建议 [2]，如对学生的智力与能力的尊重
，对学生职业发展（甚至选择非学术道路）的尊重，等等。
下文分别列出这16条建议，并引用学生的comments作为例证。基于我与自己的博士导师
&& 我与本科期间的两个导师的各种经历，我highlight了这些comment里让我深有感触
的地方。在异国求学，一个supportive的好导师是如父亲一般的存在（撒花）~
此外，我认为导师“nice”这个说法太笼统。我认为挑导师主要有两个维度：一个是做
人，一个是治学。真正的好导师，做人方面要正直、得体，尊重学生，让学生如沐春风
，心情愉快，感到个人价值受到认可；做研究方面，要非常responsible，对学生的研
究生涯发展很给力，所以push至少比放羊好一点，让学生紧张一点总比松懈要好——五
年PHD实在是好短哒。
1. Be available：给学生及时的帮助和反馈
"George meets with his students very regularly and is always available to
them. I cannot remember him ever cancelling an appointment with me despite
the tremendous demands on his time (he was Head of Department for some of
the time that I was his student). He reads drafts promptly and provides
clear, constructive comments. He is never negative and never belittles even
the most junior of students."
"Undoubtedly the greatest attribute of Charles's mentorship style is his
accessibility. Rarely in the 6 years I was in his laboratory did I note him
not to have an open door to discuss recent results with anyone from within,
or indeed from outside, her/his laboratory. This availability combined with
Charles's approachable attitude resulted in a mentor that you were not
afraid to speak to, with whatever result you had in hand be it positive or
negative. Even after leaving his laboratory I founds his door was always
open to discuss scientific ideas."
2. Respect：尊重学生的人格和智力
"Mary treats her colleagues, regardless of whether they are doing a PhD or
if they are a fellow Professor, with the same high regard. In doing so, she
inspires confidence in her collaborators."
一般而言，被吐槽的导师都是这一点做得差，把学生当做干活机器。
3. Be generous：无私的分享精神
"Mark's magnanimity in sharing his own ideas and delight in seeing others
succeed has also been an inspiration, not just for myself but for a whole
generation of younger scientists."
"Sally did and still does this by allowing them to run with ideas that she
helped to develop or even produced herself entirely and by allowing them, to
take on senior authorship on important papers even though she could claim
it for herself."
4. Individual difference：每个学生想要追求的人生目标是不同的，每个学生也都有
自己的私人生活
"A mentor needs the ability to create a unique relationship with each member
of the lab. Francis possesses this attribute and sees the strengths and
skills of each individual and then designs projects to suit these strengths.
Her ability to understand that not everyone works in the same way or wants
the same things from their lives enables her to produce the best results
from people."
"Not everybody wants to be a leading researcher and some have skills that
better suit them to other occupations. There is little point in encouraging
young people to take on a career to which they may be unsuited or which
they will find stressful or uninteresting. So I believe it is necessary
sometimes to encourage them into other directions ."
这段话让我非常感动——我觉得这种对个人意志与自由选择的无私尊重，简直是一种伟
大的人性的光辉。正如原文[2]指出，there is more to life that what they do in
the lab. They need freedom to "smell the roses" as one mentee put it. If
things change and appear to be going wrong we need to try and understand why
. If personal life is becoming tough, then give them time and space. Good
mentors make themselves aware of this. Again we are often so busy we don't
notice. 所以，A good supervisor/mentor appreciates these differences and
does not try and fit square pegs in round holes. They know when to back off
and let people make their own decisions and when to come in and offer
support and sympathy.
5. For Life：一日为师，终身为父
"Hassan takes a continuing interest in his students: so, twenty years after
I completed my PhD with him, he is still my first port of call when I have a
thorny issue to discuss, or urgently require a reference - and he has never
let me down."
"Agreeing to supervise a PhD student entails making a commitment to much
more than the day-to-day overview of a series of experiments, or the
development of a programme of analysis that leads to new physical-
mathematical theory. It involves forging rapport with the student that
potentially lasts a lifetime."
6. Actively research：经常亲临一线的研究工作。
Lead from the front, be a researcher your self, white coat on and not desk
bound.
7. Balance direction：又要放手让学生去explore自己的想法和project，又要在需要
的时候给予学生关键性的指导和建议，以此可以有效地提高学生的自主性和能动性。
"As a research supervisor and mentor she/he has an incredible ability to
find the perfect balance between: allowing the student to develop and
explore their own ideas, research plans and projects; providing them with
expert guidance, direction when needed; and most importantly providing the
inspiration to achieve their best."
8. Celebrate：为学生庆祝他们的成功
"Jane sees the importance of bringing people’s social lives and work lives
together. Our lab is always keen to celebrate the achievements of its
members with coffee and cakes; outings for lunch; or BBQs at her house."
"The first time a person comes up with a novel idea or experiment of their
own. This should be an occasion for public recognition within the lab as it
is a milestone of great significance for most young scientists."
9. Building a community：在研究组里培养和谐的关系与社区归属感，鼓励合作而非
竞争
"Eli manages to create a nurturing yet scientifically intense lab atmosphere
that promotes the production of high-quality science without the element of
interpersonal competition that is unfortunately so evident in many
laboratories, particularly here in the United States"
10. Be social：大家一起玩~
"I aim to build team spirit by supporting social events throughout the year
and by celebrating every birthday with a morning or afternoon tea at work.
Originally I organized social events myself, but I now leave the details up
to group members so that we can enjoy a diverse range of events that reflect
the interests of the group, from canoeing to karaoke".
"The most useful single thing I've learned is that chocolate biscuits do
more for everyone's good humour and enthusiasm than any amount of feelgood
talk. The role of blood sugar should probably have been obvious to a
biologist from the outset, but I only learned this by experience. Mind you,
cheerful and encouraging talk are good too, as also are gin and tonic."
11. Create networks：给学生创造合作与展示的机会
"An important catalyst for many of us was Rene’s attitude to networking –
he endeavored to send all his students and postdocs to good scientific
meetings because he realized how important it was for us to start making
connections with peers in our field early in our careers. Right from the
start we were exhorted to take every opportunity to talk to people because
it was a strongly held opinion of his that you learnt just as much at
breakfast conversations and in post-conference drinks as you did from the
presentations themselves. It was not uncommon to hear that he had lobbied
for an opportunity for a postdoc to speak at a conference rather than doing
so himself because he recognized the value of becoming known, especially
given our distance from North America and Europe."
"Elizabeth has maintained contact with her previous students and is quick to
make links between the many people she knows and any project that comes
under her discussion. She encourages collaboration and would very quickly
point to potential collaborators. Liz also would be quick to include
students in on social occasions with high profile scientists visiting the
university. This allowed students to get to know the scientists, and vice
versa, and again served as a time when students could voice their thoughts
and ideas to very knowledgeable and experienced researchers."
小小的comment：我觉得B在这方面可以加强。比如，介绍他的“contacts to promote
their students and young staff”， 比如“when a distinguished scientist
comes to visit the School they, not only introduce them, but also give them
an opportunity to present or discuss their work”，比如，如果B能多给我指点一
些其他学校的合作研究者就更好了。
12. Question & Listen：问好问题，激发好的答案，用一连串的好问题persistently
keeps the questions flowing to help the answer come along
"Rather than directly providing me with interesting ideas, he/she is able to
ask the right questions to allow me to come up with my own theories and
ideas."
"Elspeth makes you feel special. She makes you feel valued and is genuinely
interested in people’s welfare. She doesn’t preach. She questions and
lets you speak. She listens and provides an environment where you can put
forward ideas and then she facilitates the evolution of your own answers."
13. Enhancing criticism：通过各种方式，锻炼学生的批判性思维
"Catherine has focused on equipping people with the skills to be fully
functioning members of the scientific community, able to prepare grant
applications, review manuscripts, speak at conferences and engage with
scientific administrators in a constructive manner. Such a holistic approach
to running a scientific group will ultimately bring enormous benefit to the
group’s alumni, giving them all the skills necessary to carve out their
own niches in the academic world."
"To the uninitiated, the scientific literature is a baffling mass of
conflicting ideas and results, accepted wisdom and false assumptions. The
mentor can help by alerting the new student to papers that he/she considers
of particular interest, and by going over the most pertinent ones with the
student in some detail. It also helps greatly for the laboratory or
department to establish a ‘journal club’ where students regularly take
turns dissecting one or two relevant current papers and their background,
with input from other students and faculty members. Participating in such
discussions can greatly sharpen the student’s critical acumen and judgement
."
这里还有一段更详细的建议，读起来比较高端，离我这种三年级博士生还有很远的感觉
——
“A journal club is one strategy, students should not only participate in
the critique of key papers but they should regularly take the lead by
selecting, reviewing and critiquing papers themselves. Students should be
involved from the beginning in the team's grant applications. They should
also be put in the position of interviewers in mock interviews. They should
take the position of journal referee of papers submitted from the group and
be encouraged to make a decision re acceptance, resubmission or rejection.
The actual reviews that come back then provide the basic for a very rich
discussion. In summary, we should create a situation where our students
practice all the things we do that make us a scientist. "
14. Enhancing writing：锻炼学生的科学写作能力，直到好的writing成为学生的第二
天性
"Given the vital role of publications and grants in any scientific career,
learning to write effectively is an essential key to career advancement.
Therefore, I try diligently to instil the basics of clear scientific writing
. After an extended discussion with the student of the results to be shown
in a paper, I nearly always let him/her prepare the first draft and then
begin the reiterative revision process, using ‘track changes’ to show what
has been done."
所以，一个好的练习是present students with a manuscript they have not seen
with either the abstract, introduction or discussion omitted and getting
them to write their version which can then be compared with the original. 正
如文章[2]指出，“The more writing we give students to do the more we burden
ourselves but that is part of the contract. A positive comment on all the
mentors was that they gave feedback on written work very quickly. Hard to do
but essential.”
15. Enhancing presentation: good readable slides, logical presentation, and
clear speaking
" She also expects students to give practice talks in the group before
presenting at conferences and has developed a good technique for improving
seminar performances through questions and feedback."
"Although few students have a natural gift for giving a scientific talk, all
can learn if given sufficient practice and advice. I always suggest that
the student provide me with a run-through a week or two before a
presentation, to allow sufficient time for revisions."
文章作者还指出，“This was often embarrassing in that the standard of
honours seminars and graduate student presentation was way better than the
presentations of senior staff members the students experienced at
conferences. ”哈哈哈哈。
16. Seek feedback：有什么优点和不足，听听学生怎么说
有胆量的话，把这个“Self-assessment: how good a mentor are you?”丢给你的老
板做吧~
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v447/n7146/fig_tab/447791a
参考文献：
[1] Adrian Lee, Carina Denis and Philip Campbell. Nature's guide for mentors
. Nature 447, 791-797 (14th June 2007)
[2] Adrian Lee and Larry Hulbert. Guidelines on Research Mentoring. http://www.guidelinesonresearchmentoring.com
m*n
4 楼
只要你不叫Jose
B*e
5 楼
是
【在 j****a 的大作中提到】
: 几年前用得挺好 今天拿出来试了试 comcast 50M居然实测才10M 估计这个路由拖后腿
: 了吧？
【在 j****a 的大作中提到】
: 几年前用得挺好 今天拿出来试了试 comcast 50M居然实测才10M 估计这个路由拖后腿
: 了吧？
h*n
6 楼
BSO一下, 我衡量了我的phd mentor, 觉得前15条全都满足, 最后一条满足一半.
j*a
7 楼
能不能推荐个替代品啊 这个路由就是慢点 但从不掉线
【在 B*******e 的大作中提到】
: 是
【在 B*******e 的大作中提到】
: 是
a*n
8 楼
一般说了一堆的根本就没有理解好导师的核心是什么
总结起来就是
有钱，有connection，放羊，护犊，给好推荐 其他都是扯淡 虚的。
mentoring
【在 h****e 的大作中提到】
: “在任何学科领域，是否有一个好导师将决定学生的研究生涯初期的成败。” [1]
: 什么样的导师是好导师呢？2005年，Nature创立了the Nature awards for mentoring
: in science，用于表彰在指导研究生方面卓有成效的导师。有关人员广泛收集总结了学
: 生们对其导师的评价，总结成了给导师的16条建议 [2]，如对学生的智力与能力的尊重
: ，对学生职业发展（甚至选择非学术道路）的尊重，等等。
: 下文分别列出这16条建议，并引用学生的comments作为例证。基于我与自己的博士导师
: && 我与本科期间的两个导师的各种经历，我highlight了这些comment里让我深有感触
: 的地方。在异国求学，一个supportive的好导师是如父亲一般的存在（撒花）~
: 此外，我认为导师“nice”这个说法太笼统。我认为挑导师主要有两个维度：一个是做
: 人，一个是治学。真正的好导师，做人方面要正直、得体，尊重学生，让学生如沐春风
总结起来就是
有钱，有connection，放羊，护犊，给好推荐 其他都是扯淡 虚的。
mentoring
【在 h****e 的大作中提到】
: “在任何学科领域，是否有一个好导师将决定学生的研究生涯初期的成败。” [1]
: 什么样的导师是好导师呢？2005年，Nature创立了the Nature awards for mentoring
: in science，用于表彰在指导研究生方面卓有成效的导师。有关人员广泛收集总结了学
: 生们对其导师的评价，总结成了给导师的16条建议 [2]，如对学生的智力与能力的尊重
: ，对学生职业发展（甚至选择非学术道路）的尊重，等等。
: 下文分别列出这16条建议，并引用学生的comments作为例证。基于我与自己的博士导师
: && 我与本科期间的两个导师的各种经历，我highlight了这些comment里让我深有感触
: 的地方。在异国求学，一个supportive的好导师是如父亲一般的存在（撒花）~
: 此外，我认为导师“nice”这个说法太笼统。我认为挑导师主要有两个维度：一个是做
: 人，一个是治学。真正的好导师，做人方面要正直、得体，尊重学生，让学生如沐春风
S*A
9 楼
价位？要千兆吗？5G？
TPLINK wdr3600 是个便宜不错的安全选择。
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008RV51EE
当然贵很多的发烧级别 router 也有很多。
TPLINK wdr3600 是个便宜不错的安全选择。
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008RV51EE
当然贵很多的发烧级别 router 也有很多。
h*n
10 楼
也不只是你说的那些.
writing, presentation之类的技能, 很少有人(尤其是中国人)一开始就很好, 老板愿
意多指导是好事.
【在 a*********n 的大作中提到】
: 一般说了一堆的根本就没有理解好导师的核心是什么
: 总结起来就是
: 有钱，有connection，放羊，护犊，给好推荐 其他都是扯淡 虚的。
:
: mentoring
writing, presentation之类的技能, 很少有人(尤其是中国人)一开始就很好, 老板愿
意多指导是好事.
【在 a*********n 的大作中提到】
: 一般说了一堆的根本就没有理解好导师的核心是什么
: 总结起来就是
: 有钱，有connection，放羊，护犊，给好推荐 其他都是扯淡 虚的。
:
: mentoring
j*a
11 楼
这个看着不错啊 价格也适中 谢谢
【在 S*A 的大作中提到】
: 价位？要千兆吗？5G？
: TPLINK wdr3600 是个便宜不错的安全选择。
: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008RV51EE
: 当然贵很多的发烧级别 router 也有很多。
【在 S*A 的大作中提到】
: 价位？要千兆吗？5G？
: TPLINK wdr3600 是个便宜不错的安全选择。
: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008RV51EE
: 当然贵很多的发烧级别 router 也有很多。
A*u
12 楼
纯粹YY 。。。
哪有这样的导师。亲爹对自己都不可能这么好 。。
mentoring
【在 h****e 的大作中提到】
: “在任何学科领域，是否有一个好导师将决定学生的研究生涯初期的成败。” [1]
: 什么样的导师是好导师呢？2005年，Nature创立了the Nature awards for mentoring
: in science，用于表彰在指导研究生方面卓有成效的导师。有关人员广泛收集总结了学
: 生们对其导师的评价，总结成了给导师的16条建议 [2]，如对学生的智力与能力的尊重
: ，对学生职业发展（甚至选择非学术道路）的尊重，等等。
: 下文分别列出这16条建议，并引用学生的comments作为例证。基于我与自己的博士导师
: && 我与本科期间的两个导师的各种经历，我highlight了这些comment里让我深有感触
: 的地方。在异国求学，一个supportive的好导师是如父亲一般的存在（撒花）~
: 此外，我认为导师“nice”这个说法太笼统。我认为挑导师主要有两个维度：一个是做
: 人，一个是治学。真正的好导师，做人方面要正直、得体，尊重学生，让学生如沐春风
哪有这样的导师。亲爹对自己都不可能这么好 。。
mentoring
【在 h****e 的大作中提到】
: “在任何学科领域，是否有一个好导师将决定学生的研究生涯初期的成败。” [1]
: 什么样的导师是好导师呢？2005年，Nature创立了the Nature awards for mentoring
: in science，用于表彰在指导研究生方面卓有成效的导师。有关人员广泛收集总结了学
: 生们对其导师的评价，总结成了给导师的16条建议 [2]，如对学生的智力与能力的尊重
: ，对学生职业发展（甚至选择非学术道路）的尊重，等等。
: 下文分别列出这16条建议，并引用学生的comments作为例证。基于我与自己的博士导师
: && 我与本科期间的两个导师的各种经历，我highlight了这些comment里让我深有感触
: 的地方。在异国求学，一个supportive的好导师是如父亲一般的存在（撒花）~
: 此外，我认为导师“nice”这个说法太笼统。我认为挑导师主要有两个维度：一个是做
: 人，一个是治学。真正的好导师，做人方面要正直、得体，尊重学生，让学生如沐春风
L*s
13 楼
我还在用WRT54GL-TM，刷番茄。
瓶颈在出口WLAN，内部又全是有线，所以暂无升级打算。
瓶颈在出口WLAN，内部又全是有线，所以暂无升级打算。
h*n
14 楼
有, 但很罕见.
【在 A******u 的大作中提到】
: 纯粹YY 。。。
: 哪有这样的导师。亲爹对自己都不可能这么好 。。
:
: mentoring
【在 A******u 的大作中提到】
: 纯粹YY 。。。
: 哪有这样的导师。亲爹对自己都不可能这么好 。。
:
: mentoring
j*a
15 楼
哦？能展开说说怎么提高出口速度吗？谢谢
【在 L***s 的大作中提到】
: 我还在用WRT54GL-TM，刷番茄。
: 瓶颈在出口WLAN，内部又全是有线，所以暂无升级打算。
【在 L***s 的大作中提到】
: 我还在用WRT54GL-TM，刷番茄。
: 瓶颈在出口WLAN，内部又全是有线，所以暂无升级打算。
a*n
16 楼
那些都是自己就可以练出来的，老板帮助当然好了，不帮也不算事
【在 h********n 的大作中提到】
: 也不只是你说的那些.
: writing, presentation之类的技能, 很少有人(尤其是中国人)一开始就很好, 老板愿
: 意多指导是好事.
【在 h********n 的大作中提到】
: 也不只是你说的那些.
: writing, presentation之类的技能, 很少有人(尤其是中国人)一开始就很好, 老板愿
: 意多指导是好事.
s*m
17 楼
交钱
【在 j****a 的大作中提到】
: 哦？能展开说说怎么提高出口速度吗？谢谢
【在 j****a 的大作中提到】
: 哦？能展开说说怎么提高出口速度吗？谢谢
l*d
18 楼
好导师要对学生诚实一点，告诉学生学术界这条路不好走。
S*A
19 楼
我也是wrt54gs 刷 openwrt 升级过来的。
那个路由CPU比较弱，提速意义不大。
如果开了QOS关掉可以快点。
wdr3600 有wireless N, 千兆网，5G。
CPU比wrt54 强很多，wan 到lan可以接
近千兆。可以完美刷 openwrt, 没有binary
驱动拖后腿. 非常稳定。128m ram。
作为wrt54 的升级路由很合适。
【在 j****a 的大作中提到】
: 这个看着不错啊 价格也适中 谢谢
那个路由CPU比较弱，提速意义不大。
如果开了QOS关掉可以快点。
wdr3600 有wireless N, 千兆网，5G。
CPU比wrt54 强很多，wan 到lan可以接
近千兆。可以完美刷 openwrt, 没有binary
驱动拖后腿. 非常稳定。128m ram。
作为wrt54 的升级路由很合适。
【在 j****a 的大作中提到】
: 这个看着不错啊 价格也适中 谢谢
b*r
20 楼
干爹？
【在 A******u 的大作中提到】
: 纯粹YY 。。。
: 哪有这样的导师。亲爹对自己都不可能这么好 。。
:
: mentoring
【在 A******u 的大作中提到】
: 纯粹YY 。。。
: 哪有这样的导师。亲爹对自己都不可能这么好 。。
:
: mentoring
S*A
21 楼
你可以拿部机器直接连在 modem 上测试一下速度
就知道路由器有没有限制了速度了。我记得用 WRT54GS
还是有卡了一点的，ISP 大概 12M 左右，瞬间可以上
到 20M。
【在 L***s 的大作中提到】
: 我还在用WRT54GL-TM，刷番茄。
: 瓶颈在出口WLAN，内部又全是有线，所以暂无升级打算。
就知道路由器有没有限制了速度了。我记得用 WRT54GS
还是有卡了一点的，ISP 大概 12M 左右，瞬间可以上
到 20M。
【在 L***s 的大作中提到】
: 我还在用WRT54GL-TM，刷番茄。
: 瓶颈在出口WLAN，内部又全是有线，所以暂无升级打算。
S*e
22 楼
我觉得应该从不同角度看。
做一个好的科学家和能找到工作不总是等同的。
好的科学家不一定能发一大堆CNS,能发一大堆CNS的也不一定就是好的科学家。如果你
的老板是能把你培养成不能发一大堆CNS的科学家的导师，在目前环境下就不算好导师
。因为不管你是多好的科学家，没有cns基本找不到工作，然后又能怎样呢？
mentoring
【在 h****e 的大作中提到】
: “在任何学科领域，是否有一个好导师将决定学生的研究生涯初期的成败。” [1]
: 什么样的导师是好导师呢？2005年，Nature创立了the Nature awards for mentoring
: in science，用于表彰在指导研究生方面卓有成效的导师。有关人员广泛收集总结了学
: 生们对其导师的评价，总结成了给导师的16条建议 [2]，如对学生的智力与能力的尊重
: ，对学生职业发展（甚至选择非学术道路）的尊重，等等。
: 下文分别列出这16条建议，并引用学生的comments作为例证。基于我与自己的博士导师
: && 我与本科期间的两个导师的各种经历，我highlight了这些comment里让我深有感触
: 的地方。在异国求学，一个supportive的好导师是如父亲一般的存在（撒花）~
: 此外，我认为导师“nice”这个说法太笼统。我认为挑导师主要有两个维度：一个是做
: 人，一个是治学。真正的好导师，做人方面要正直、得体，尊重学生，让学生如沐春风
做一个好的科学家和能找到工作不总是等同的。
好的科学家不一定能发一大堆CNS,能发一大堆CNS的也不一定就是好的科学家。如果你
的老板是能把你培养成不能发一大堆CNS的科学家的导师，在目前环境下就不算好导师
。因为不管你是多好的科学家，没有cns基本找不到工作，然后又能怎样呢？
mentoring
【在 h****e 的大作中提到】
: “在任何学科领域，是否有一个好导师将决定学生的研究生涯初期的成败。” [1]
: 什么样的导师是好导师呢？2005年，Nature创立了the Nature awards for mentoring
: in science，用于表彰在指导研究生方面卓有成效的导师。有关人员广泛收集总结了学
: 生们对其导师的评价，总结成了给导师的16条建议 [2]，如对学生的智力与能力的尊重
: ，对学生职业发展（甚至选择非学术道路）的尊重，等等。
: 下文分别列出这16条建议，并引用学生的comments作为例证。基于我与自己的博士导师
: && 我与本科期间的两个导师的各种经历，我highlight了这些comment里让我深有感触
: 的地方。在异国求学，一个supportive的好导师是如父亲一般的存在（撒花）~
: 此外，我认为导师“nice”这个说法太笼统。我认为挑导师主要有两个维度：一个是做
: 人，一个是治学。真正的好导师，做人方面要正直、得体，尊重学生，让学生如沐春风
r*y
23 楼
这个不如上 NetGear N900
前两天新蛋 deal 40$
速度杠杠滴, NAS 也对付用, 就是不能刷 dd-wrt
【在 S*A 的大作中提到】
: 价位？要千兆吗？5G？
: TPLINK wdr3600 是个便宜不错的安全选择。
: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008RV51EE
: 当然贵很多的发烧级别 router 也有很多。
前两天新蛋 deal 40$
速度杠杠滴, NAS 也对付用, 就是不能刷 dd-wrt
【在 S*A 的大作中提到】
: 价位？要千兆吗？5G？
: TPLINK wdr3600 是个便宜不错的安全选择。
: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008RV51EE
: 当然贵很多的发烧级别 router 也有很多。
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