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t*o2014-11-14 08:11

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【以下文字转载自 Law 讨论区】
发信人: taodao (星际之旅), 信区: Law
标题: 求legal建议
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Mar 25 12:33:35 2011, 美东)
我家对面是个湖，湖被一些房子围着，没有公共的沙滩或者入口。去年开始收到来自一
个Lake Club的信，要求附近的住户每家每年交300元钱，用来清理和维护湖。我查了一
下，发现在1920年前，这个地区的一大片地属于某个人，后来他把地分开，卖给了100
多户人家建房自住。在最原始的deed上写着，“Together with the right to use the
lake and the roads, as may property owners generally in the community of
which the above described property forms a part, subject, however, to the
rules and regulations established or hereafter established governing same”。
我的邻居中有几十户已经交了钱，另外几十户合伙请了律师，那个律师态度比较强硬，
要带他们上庭。我自己请了一位律师，性格很温和的样子，他跟我说Lake Club有理，
还举了一个例子"Island Improvement Association of Upper Greenwood Lake v.
Ford, 155 NJ Super 571 (Appellate Division 1978)。见附录。
我的问题是我可以要求不付这个钱吗？我从没用过这个湖，因为根本没有路可以下去。
我怕如果这个不解决好，以后他们漫天要价，我卖房子都多了一个负担。

d*s2014-11-14 08:11

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Nature. 2013 Nov 7;503(7474):146. doi: 10.1038/nature12727.
Retraction: Functional dissection of lysine deacetylases reveals that HDAC1
and p300 regulate AMPK.
Yu-yi Lin, Samara Kiihl, Yasir Suhail, Shang-Yun Liu, Yi-hsuan Chou, Zheng
Kuang, Jin-ying Lu, Chin Ni Khor, Chi-Long Lin, Joel S. Bader, Rafael
Irizarry & Jef D. Boeke
Nature 482, 251'255 (2012); doi:10.1038/nature10804
In response to a concern raised by a reader about inconsistencies in our
Letter between the results from the primary microarray screen and cell
growth validation studies (Supplementary Table 2), we reviewed the methods
described, and the subsequent analytical and validation work. We conclude
that the Methods section in our Letter is inaccurate, and that for 38% of
the interactions found by the primary screen there was a discordance in sign
when validated (for example, an interaction might be called 'synthetic
lethal' by the primary screen but 'synthetic rescue' in the cell growth
validation assay, or vice versa). Although the results from the reanalysis
did not contradict our key conclusions, we also re-evaluated the experiments
in Figs 2-4 that indicate that p300 acetylates PRKAA1 and HDAC1
deacetylates it. We sequence-verified and spot-checked many of the plasmids
and cell lines described, which are available on request. The biological
materials were found to be as we described, and certain aspects, such as
p300 acetylation of PRKAA1 protein in vitro, could be reproduced. However,
despite several attempts, we were unable to obtain results definitively
supporting the major claims of the Letter, namely that p300 is the
acetyltransferase and HDAC1 is the deacetylase for PRKAA1 in cells. The
batch of polyclonal antibody against acetyl-lysine originally used is no
longer available. More definitive experiments require antibodies that
specifically recognize acetylated sites on PRKAA1, which we are developing.
Although our inability to reproduce these results does not mean our
conclusions are incorrect, we cannot say with confidence that they are
correct. Given the time that has elapsed, and our inability to reproduce the
main conclusions of the Letter, we feel obliged to retract it. All the
authors have signed this retractionwith the exception of Y.-Y.L., who is
deceased. Correspondence should be addressed to J.D.B. ([email protected]
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m*y2014-11-14 08:11

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Well, your house will sell better if the "lake view" got improved (even if
you can't walk down to the lake, the lake view is worth something.)
It's just the lake club should be held responsible and accountable so that
your money is well spent and no 以后漫天要价.

s*y2014-11-14 08:11

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who is deceased....

HDAC1

【在 d*****s 的大作中提到】

: Nature. 2013 Nov 7;503(7474):146. doi: 10.1038/nature12727.
: Retraction: Functional dissection of lysine deacetylases reveals that HDAC1
: and p300 regulate AMPK.
: Yu-yi Lin, Samara Kiihl, Yasir Suhail, Shang-Yun Liu, Yi-hsuan Chou, Zheng
: Kuang, Jin-ying Lu, Chin Ni Khor, Chi-Long Lin, Joel S. Bader, Rafael
: Irizarry & Jef D. Boeke
: Nature 482, 251'255 (2012); doi:10.1038/nature10804
: In response to a concern raised by a reader about inconsistencies in our
: Letter between the results from the primary microarray screen and cell
: growth validation studies (Supplementary Table 2), we reviewed the methods

p*n2014-11-14 08:11

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胡扯么，和你的title公司确认一下你的title是怎样子的，上面没有easement
exception，那上面NJ的案例并不适用你。而且就是你的property上面有easement by
necessity，也没说你有维护的责任。
当然一切以你的律师为准

s*12014-11-14 08:11

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how about the corresponding author?
Will he/ she be punished?

T*U2014-11-14 08:11

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你用不用和交不交钱没有关系。

m*D2014-11-14 08:11

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Disputed Research Ends in Tragedy
A biomedical researcher whose Nature paper was called into question was
found dead in his lab.
By Dan Cossins | March 14, 2013
4 CommentsPrint
Link thisStumbleTweet this
FLICKR, PLAXCO LAB
A Taiwanese biomedical researcher who co-authored a Nature paper while at
Johns Hopkins University (JHU) may have killed himself last summer, on the
day he was due to submit a written response to questions regarding the study
's conclusions, reported The Washington Post.
The story centers on Daniel Yuan, formerly a statistician in the genetics
lab of Jef Boeke at JHU Medical School, and Yu-yi Lin, then a researcher in
the same lab. For years, Yuan had raised concerns about the methodology and
results of the lab’s studies on interactions between genes in yeast. To him
, the data didn’t always support the conclusions being drawn.
According to the Post, Yuan was first demoted and then dismissed in December
2011. By that time, Yuan already had serious concerns about data presented
in a study that was eventually published in Nature in February 2012, and he
later wrote to the journal’s editors to express his concerns that results
were overstated, and that he had seen no evidence that the analysis claimed
in the work had even been carried out.
In response, Nature’s editors had asked Boeke and lead author Lin, who had
since moved on to take a new position at Taiwan National University, to
submit a response to Yuan’s criticisms. But a day after Boeke wrote to
Nature to ask for more time, Lin was found dead in his lab in Taiwan,
surrounded by needles, sedatives, and muscle relaxants. Police ruled out
suicide because there was no suicide note at the scene. Lin's family told
the Taipei Times that he may have injected muscle relaxants due to work-
related pressure.
Within hours of the news of Lin’s death, a note was sent from Lin’s e-mail
address to the account of Yuan. “Yu-yi passed away this morning,” the e-
mail read. “You must be very satisfied with your success.”
Although he was shocked by the whole affair, Yuan told the Post that he then
asked Nature to publish his criticisms and inquired about Boeke’s response
. On September 28, a Nature editor told Yuan that they were waiting on a
proper response, but that “experiments are being done and probably a
Correction written.” That correction has yet to appear, though a
spokesperson for JHU told the Post that it was now under review by the
journal. As a last resort, Yuan also contacted the Office of Research
Integrity, who told him that the case is being investigated by JHU.
Correction (March 14): Yu-yi Lin's death was not reported as a suicide by
local news outlets, as previously stated. Lin was found dead in his lab,
surrounded by needles, sedatives, and muscle relaxants. Police ruled out
suicide because there was no suicide note at the scene. The Scientist
regrets the error.
Correction (March 15): The paper in question was not alleged to contain
false or fabricated data, as previously stated. Instead, Daniel Yuan
questioned the methods used to analyze the data and the conclusions
subsequently drawn. The headline, subhed, and lede of the article have been
changed to reflect this. The Scientist regrets the error.

O*J2014-11-14 08:11

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It seems your house's 最原始的deed has an easement entitling you
to use the lake and the common roads in the lake area. This obligates
you to pay for the up-keep of the easement area even if you don't
make use of the easement.
"我的问题是我可以要求不付这个钱吗？"
I think you will need to pay.
"我从没用过这个湖，"
that's not a reason to not pay.
"因为根本没有路可以下去。"
This is not the case. As the holder of the easement, you can
access the lake, by walking over the easement area which is the
proerty burden with the easement. You can find out where these
easement areas are.
Pay your $300, and if it makes you feel better, go down to the lake
everyday after dinner, and go fish there every weekend, to get
your money's worth.

T*a2014-11-14 08:11

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Sigh~~~

p*n2014-11-14 08:11

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这时候title insurance用来干鸡毛的？

【在 O**J 的大作中提到】

: It seems your house's 最原始的deed has an easement entitling you
: to use the lake and the common roads in the lake area. This obligates
: you to pay for the up-keep of the easement area even if you don't
: make use of the easement.
: "我的问题是我可以要求不付这个钱吗？"
: I think you will need to pay.
: "我从没用过这个湖，"
: that's not a reason to not pay.
: "因为根本没有路可以下去。"
: This is not the case. As the holder of the easement, you can

P*A2014-11-14 08:11

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赚白菜钱的比卖白粉的伤亡率还高的时代快来了

t*o2014-11-14 08:11

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这是我担心的地方。如果90年前的Deed把我限制死了，岂不是任何时候Lake Club提任
何要求，我都不能拒绝阿？

【在 O**J 的大作中提到】

s*j2014-11-14 08:11

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统计害死人呀.

【在 T****a 的大作中提到】

: Sigh~~~

O*J2014-11-14 08:11

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title insurance doesn't protect against easements. Easements
carries over to the new owner.

【在 p*******n 的大作中提到】

: 这时候title insurance用来干鸡毛的？

s*y2014-11-14 08:11

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额，竟然真的是自杀……

study

【在 m*********D 的大作中提到】

: Disputed Research Ends in Tragedy
: A biomedical researcher whose Nature paper was called into question was
: found dead in his lab.
: By Dan Cossins | March 14, 2013
: 4 CommentsPrint
: Link thisStumbleTweet this
: FLICKR, PLAXCO LAB
: A Taiwanese biomedical researcher who co-authored a Nature paper while at
: Johns Hopkins University (JHU) may have killed himself last summer, on the
: day he was due to submit a written response to questions regarding the study

p*n2014-11-14 08:11

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你确定？？？买房子的时候一般会做survey，如果easement在survey的时候被发现，那
title
insurance的确不会cover，但是这样就说明是楼主忽略了，只能苦果自吞。
如果没有这样的survey exception，title insurance policy是应该管的。。。。

【在 O**J 的大作中提到】

: title insurance doesn't protect against easements. Easements
: carries over to the new owner.

x*h2014-11-14 08:11

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这就是那个著名的千老自杀老板当院士的事情啊。

【在 s*********y 的大作中提到】

: 额，竟然真的是自杀……
:
: study

t*o2014-11-14 08:11

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买房子的时候只有一个title report，当时律师说没问题。title insurance policy是
买房后一年才出来，那上面是写了exception，包括了这个easement。所以我现在的律
师建议我起诉买房的律师，让他赔偿损失。我觉得有失厚道，第一买房律师也只赚了我
几百块钱而已，他拖家带口也不容易；第二也许即便我当时知道这个easement，可能也
会买。毕竟shopping到最后的时候都是昏了头的。

【在 p*******n 的大作中提到】

: 你确定？？？买房子的时候一般会做survey，如果easement在survey的时候被发现，那
: title
: insurance的确不会cover，但是这样就说明是楼主忽略了，只能苦果自吞。
: 如果没有这样的survey exception，title insurance policy是应该管的。。。。

m*i2014-11-14 08:11

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很惨烈。不知道是不是又一个内斗的案例

p*n2014-11-14 08:11

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Servient estate owner一般来说也有维护easement的责任，但是这个湖貌似并不属于
你们的吧？
你们提供的easement只是通往湖的那条路是吗？如果是这样的话，这路属于easement
of gross？
这样的话责任归属还是可以争辩。。。
起诉以前的律师，倒也不是有失厚道，主要是代价太高得不偿失，哎

【在 t****o 的大作中提到】

: 买房子的时候只有一个title report，当时律师说没问题。title insurance policy是
: 买房后一年才出来，那上面是写了exception，包括了这个easement。所以我现在的律
: 师建议我起诉买房的律师，让他赔偿损失。我觉得有失厚道，第一买房律师也只赚了我
: 几百块钱而已，他拖家带口也不容易；第二也许即便我当时知道这个easement，可能也
: 会买。毕竟shopping到最后的时候都是昏了头的。

s*g2014-11-14 08:11

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好死不如赖活着。
自杀不可取。
大不了不干科研了。

【在 m***i 的大作中提到】

: 很惨烈。不知道是不是又一个内斗的案例

s*d2014-11-14 08:11

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你有要求不付这个钱的权利。
这个要求，跟你是不是要付这个钱没有关系。

j*n2014-11-14 08:11

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同组的两个千老内斗。。。

【在 m***i 的大作中提到】

: 很惨烈。不知道是不是又一个内斗的案例

t*o2014-11-14 08:11

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愿闻其详。湖不属于我，easement是说我有用湖的权利，同时有遵守club各项制度和规
定的义务。我们家跟湖隔着小街，小街属于easement，大家都可以用。

【在 p*******n 的大作中提到】

: Servient estate owner一般来说也有维护easement的责任，但是这个湖貌似并不属于
: 你们的吧？
: 你们提供的easement只是通往湖的那条路是吗？如果是这样的话，这路属于easement
: of gross？
: 这样的话责任归属还是可以争辩。。。
: 起诉以前的律师，倒也不是有失厚道，主要是代价太高得不偿失，哎

R*D2014-11-14 08:11

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几年前重复这个组发明的一种yeast genetic interaction方法。大概花了八九个月时
间，每次实验可重复性极差，最后不得不放弃一个基于该方法的 project。
。。。
。。。。。。
这个事件严重了影响我的生涯。真是极其鄙视大牛发灌水文章，害人匪浅。

p*n2014-11-14 08:11

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“easement是说我有用湖的权利”？这话不是很通。难道是湖是club的property，
让你用？如果是这样，你是dominant party，如果你不想用，你直接放弃这
样的dominance，不要加入这个club好了，但是有这样一个权利蛮好的，resell
的时候可能是卖点，如果湖仅仅让湖周围的住户用的话。
如果不是这样，按照常理来说湖不属于你，维护湖的义务就不应该仅仅让提供
easement的承担，而是应该让所有能够享用这个湖的人，也就是整个town或者
club来承担。他们维护费用的来源应该由纳税收入或者会员费所取得。
小街在你的property上，那么你有义务维护这个小街，但是即便如此，你也不需
要承担所有义务。。

【在 t****o 的大作中提到】

: 愿闻其详。湖不属于我，easement是说我有用湖的权利，同时有遵守club各项制度和规
: 定的义务。我们家跟湖隔着小街，小街属于easement，大家都可以用。

R*E2014-11-14 08:11

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学术界的歪风早该杀一杀了

HDAC1

【在 d*****s 的大作中提到】

t*o2014-11-14 08:11

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小街也不在我的property上，在我看来我跟这个湖真是毫无关系。上图，绿框是我的房
子。如果能放弃使用权，从而逃避维护的义务，是最理想的。
可是由于历史的原因，这一片245户人家的deed都有这个easement，指明可以使用湖，
也必须遵守club规定。本来club是用membership的年费维护湖，可是在245户人家中，
只有102户加入了club，现在这些钱不够用，所以club想强制245户人家每户每年交300
元。
The “Easement” in the Original Deeds
•“Together with the right to use the lake and the roads, as may
property owners generally in the community of which the above described
property forms a part, subject, however, to the rules and regulations
established or hereafter established governing same.”
•
“To have and to hold all and singular the above‐ described land and
premises, with the appurtenances, unto the party of the second part, his
heirs and assigns, to the only proper use, benefit and behoof of the said
party of the second part, his heirs and assigns forever.”

【在 p*******n 的大作中提到】

: “easement是说我有用湖的权利”？这话不是很通。难道是湖是club的property，
: 让你用？如果是这样，你是dominant party，如果你不想用，你直接放弃这
: 样的dominance，不要加入这个club好了，但是有这样一个权利蛮好的，resell
: 的时候可能是卖点，如果湖仅仅让湖周围的住户用的话。
: 如果不是这样，按照常理来说湖不属于你，维护湖的义务就不应该仅仅让提供
: easement的承担，而是应该让所有能够享用这个湖的人，也就是整个town或者
: club来承担。他们维护费用的来源应该由纳税收入或者会员费所取得。
: 小街在你的property上，那么你有义务维护这个小街，但是即便如此，你也不需
: 要承担所有义务。。

c*y2014-11-14 08:11

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Lin is the corresponding author...

【在 s*******1 的大作中提到】

: how about the corresponding author?
: Will he/ she be punished?

h*d2014-11-14 08:11

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为啥要单独找律师？跟着大家走不好么？

300

【在 t****o 的大作中提到】

: 小街也不在我的property上，在我看来我跟这个湖真是毫无关系。上图，绿框是我的房
: 子。如果能放弃使用权，从而逃避维护的义务，是最理想的。
: 可是由于历史的原因，这一片245户人家的deed都有这个easement，指明可以使用湖，
: 也必须遵守club规定。本来club是用membership的年费维护湖，可是在245户人家中，
: 只有102户加入了club，现在这些钱不够用，所以club想强制245户人家每户每年交300
: 元。
: The “Easement” in the Original Deeds
: •“Together with the right to use the lake and the roads, as may
: property owners generally in the community of which the above described
: property forms a part, subject, however, to the rules and regulations

r*82014-11-14 08:11

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笑死，very true

【在 P*A 的大作中提到】

: 赚白菜钱的比卖白粉的伤亡率还高的时代快来了

p*n2014-11-14 08:11

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如果你门口的路也是easement（也就是说不属于town，而是属于你们这245户人家），你
必须得维持这个easement没法放弃，因为你出入都需要使用。
放弃easement dominance需要redeeding，这个本身已经够麻烦了，而且这个需所有
相关property owners同意，也就是245户人家同意，ms很麻烦。这个太复杂鸟，不是
俺们理工wsn能够理解的鸟，不好意思哈，看问问你律师有没有redeed的可能，如果你想
清楚要放弃的话。。。

300

【在 t****o 的大作中提到】

t*o2014-11-14 08:11

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为啥要单独请律师，是因为我用legal plan network里的律师不花钱。跟邻居一起请的
律师不是network里的。

【在 h*d 的大作中提到】

: 为啥要单独找律师？跟着大家走不好么？
:
: 300

t*o2014-11-14 08:11

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门口的路似乎从文件上讲不属于town，可是扫雪的事倒是town里管。理工男懂这么多法
律，敬仰一下。

，你
你想

【在 p*******n 的大作中提到】

: 如果你门口的路也是easement（也就是说不属于town，而是属于你们这245户人家），你
: 必须得维持这个easement没法放弃，因为你出入都需要使用。
: 放弃easement dominance需要redeeding，这个本身已经够麻烦了，而且这个需所有
: 相关property owners同意，也就是245户人家同意，ms很麻烦。这个太复杂鸟，不是
: 俺们理工wsn能够理解的鸟，不好意思哈，看问问你律师有没有redeed的可能，如果你想
: 清楚要放弃的话。。。
:
: 300