e*2
2 楼
现在在一个无前途的公司用CPT干了7个月的活，估计明年4月份会帮我申请H1B，如果4-
10月份有了新offer，可以用H1B transfer吗？
谢谢哈。
10月份有了新offer，可以用H1B transfer吗？
谢谢哈。
N*L
3 楼
NIU的提前递交485倡议项目组已经如火如荼的展开工作了。我们很高兴的向大家汇报一
下，目前项目组已经有将近10名成员。已经有一些项目方向的议案。现在，项目组的正
在讨论确定一个简单可行的项目方案。 我们的项目方案需要：
1） 简单可行
2） 方向单一
3） 门槛低
我们要把最大的人力资源聚集在一点上统筹规划。项目组成员都是志愿者。每个人都有
自己繁重的工作和生活。所以，我们必须要制定一个最多人感兴趣，门槛低，大家都能
做的一件事作为我们下一步的工作重点。
现在，项目组向广大NIU捐款人和正在等待递交485的绿卡申请人发出征集项目建议的请
求。请您告诉我们您认为我们从哪里做起。随后小组将汇总大家的建议，并展开内部讨
论定夺。
please send email to : c*****[email protected]
http://niunational.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=271&extra=p
下，目前项目组已经有将近10名成员。已经有一些项目方向的议案。现在，项目组的正
在讨论确定一个简单可行的项目方案。 我们的项目方案需要：
1） 简单可行
2） 方向单一
3） 门槛低
我们要把最大的人力资源聚集在一点上统筹规划。项目组成员都是志愿者。每个人都有
自己繁重的工作和生活。所以，我们必须要制定一个最多人感兴趣，门槛低，大家都能
做的一件事作为我们下一步的工作重点。
现在，项目组向广大NIU捐款人和正在等待递交485的绿卡申请人发出征集项目建议的请
求。请您告诉我们您认为我们从哪里做起。随后小组将汇总大家的建议，并展开内部讨
论定夺。
please send email to : c*****[email protected]
http://niunational.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=271&extra=p
e*2
4 楼
男生出来连奴隶都很难当。更不必说养家糊口
女生起码混混可以挣点零花钱
女生起码混混可以挣点零花钱
S*I
5 楼
可以，比电汇便宜，不过到账很慢
【在 p*****i 的大作中提到】
: 汇两万美金
: 可以让家里收到我的美国个人支票，去中行托收吗？
: 比电汇费用怎么样？
: 谢谢？
【在 p*****i 的大作中提到】
: 汇两万美金
: 可以让家里收到我的美国个人支票，去中行托收吗？
: 比电汇费用怎么样？
: 谢谢？
b*u
6 楼
可以
H*i
7 楼
ask USCIS to issue EAD to employment-based immigration petitioners/beneficiaries after I-140 has been approved for 180 days, if because of country limit reason these petitioners/beneficiaries can't file I-485.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
USCIS can NOT accept I-485 if your priority date is after the visa bulletin. If you want to file I-485, you have to work with DOS, but DOS will say they can't make everyone current because USCIS has limited resources. You'll end up like a ball kicking by USCIS and DOS.
The EAD can provide some relief to our pains in waiting for visa bulletin. If USCIS can issue EAD to F-1 students for OPT, why they can not issue EAD to EB2 and EB3?
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
USCIS can NOT accept I-485 if your priority date is after the visa bulletin. If you want to file I-485, you have to work with DOS, but DOS will say they can't make everyone current because USCIS has limited resources. You'll end up like a ball kicking by USCIS and DOS.
The EAD can provide some relief to our pains in waiting for visa bulletin. If USCIS can issue EAD to F-1 students for OPT, why they can not issue EAD to EB2 and EB3?
g*8
8 楼
It take around 1-2 months to get the cash
l*k
9 楼
Good idea. Support.
l*7
10 楼
热！不让交485，就发EAD/AP，至少可以换工作，回国免签。
beneficiaries after I-140 has been approved for 180 days, if because of
country limit reason these petitioners/beneficiaries can't file I-485.
bulletin. If you want to file I-485, you have to work with DOS, but DOS
will say they can't make everyone current because USCIS has limited
resources. You'll end up like a ball kicking by USCIS and DOS.
If USCIS can issue EAD to F-1 students for OPT, why they can not issue EAD
to EB2 and EB3?
【在 H******i 的大作中提到】
: ask USCIS to issue EAD to employment-based immigration petitioners/beneficiaries after I-140 has been approved for 180 days, if because of country limit reason these petitioners/beneficiaries can't file I-485.
: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
: USCIS can NOT accept I-485 if your priority date is after the visa bulletin. If you want to file I-485, you have to work with DOS, but DOS will say they can't make everyone current because USCIS has limited resources. You'll end up like a ball kicking by USCIS and DOS.
: The EAD can provide some relief to our pains in waiting for visa bulletin. If USCIS can issue EAD to F-1 students for OPT, why they can not issue EAD to EB2 and EB3?
beneficiaries after I-140 has been approved for 180 days, if because of
country limit reason these petitioners/beneficiaries can't file I-485.
bulletin. If you want to file I-485, you have to work with DOS, but DOS
will say they can't make everyone current because USCIS has limited
resources. You'll end up like a ball kicking by USCIS and DOS.
If USCIS can issue EAD to F-1 students for OPT, why they can not issue EAD
to EB2 and EB3?
【在 H******i 的大作中提到】
: ask USCIS to issue EAD to employment-based immigration petitioners/beneficiaries after I-140 has been approved for 180 days, if because of country limit reason these petitioners/beneficiaries can't file I-485.
: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
: USCIS can NOT accept I-485 if your priority date is after the visa bulletin. If you want to file I-485, you have to work with DOS, but DOS will say they can't make everyone current because USCIS has limited resources. You'll end up like a ball kicking by USCIS and DOS.
: The EAD can provide some relief to our pains in waiting for visa bulletin. If USCIS can issue EAD to F-1 students for OPT, why they can not issue EAD to EB2 and EB3?
s*y
11 楼
If your PD is 180 days after current Cut-Off date or 180 days after I-140
approval (whichever is more feasible to USCIS), you can submit I-485 WITHOUT
the benefit of EAD or AP. USCIS can proceed to finger print and background
check.
Once your PD is current, your I-485 case is available for approval, making
it less possible to waste visa number if cut off date moves past July, 2007,
next summer.
In this proposal, we don't totally bypass DOS decision of cut off date.
People whose PD is close to current cut off date don't get the benefit of
EAD or AP, making it less obstacle to be approved.
approval (whichever is more feasible to USCIS), you can submit I-485 WITHOUT
the benefit of EAD or AP. USCIS can proceed to finger print and background
check.
Once your PD is current, your I-485 case is available for approval, making
it less possible to waste visa number if cut off date moves past July, 2007,
next summer.
In this proposal, we don't totally bypass DOS decision of cut off date.
People whose PD is close to current cut off date don't get the benefit of
EAD or AP, making it less obstacle to be approved.
x*i
12 楼
支持，如何捐钱，给个link，谢谢
H*i
13 楼
http://www.niunational.com/portal.php
click on donate
【在 x*****i 的大作中提到】
: 支持，如何捐钱，给个link，谢谢
click on donate
【在 x*****i 的大作中提到】
: 支持，如何捐钱，给个link，谢谢
N*r
14 楼
正确。
应该不需要走立法程序吧。
beneficiaries after I-140 has been approved for 180 days, if because of
country limit reason these petitioners/beneficiaries can't file I-485.
bulletin. If you want to file I-485, you have to work with DOS, but DOS
will say they can't make everyone current because USCIS has limited
resources. You'll end up like a ball kicking by USCIS and DOS.
If USCIS can issue EAD to F-1 students for OPT, why they can not issue EAD
to EB2 and EB3?
【在 H******i 的大作中提到】
: ask USCIS to issue EAD to employment-based immigration petitioners/beneficiaries after I-140 has been approved for 180 days, if because of country limit reason these petitioners/beneficiaries can't file I-485.
: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
: USCIS can NOT accept I-485 if your priority date is after the visa bulletin. If you want to file I-485, you have to work with DOS, but DOS will say they can't make everyone current because USCIS has limited resources. You'll end up like a ball kicking by USCIS and DOS.
: The EAD can provide some relief to our pains in waiting for visa bulletin. If USCIS can issue EAD to F-1 students for OPT, why they can not issue EAD to EB2 and EB3?
应该不需要走立法程序吧。
beneficiaries after I-140 has been approved for 180 days, if because of
country limit reason these petitioners/beneficiaries can't file I-485.
bulletin. If you want to file I-485, you have to work with DOS, but DOS
will say they can't make everyone current because USCIS has limited
resources. You'll end up like a ball kicking by USCIS and DOS.
If USCIS can issue EAD to F-1 students for OPT, why they can not issue EAD
to EB2 and EB3?
【在 H******i 的大作中提到】
: ask USCIS to issue EAD to employment-based immigration petitioners/beneficiaries after I-140 has been approved for 180 days, if because of country limit reason these petitioners/beneficiaries can't file I-485.
: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
: USCIS can NOT accept I-485 if your priority date is after the visa bulletin. If you want to file I-485, you have to work with DOS, but DOS will say they can't make everyone current because USCIS has limited resources. You'll end up like a ball kicking by USCIS and DOS.
: The EAD can provide some relief to our pains in waiting for visa bulletin. If USCIS can issue EAD to F-1 students for OPT, why they can not issue EAD to EB2 and EB3?
B*g
15 楼
你们删我的贴字，不知道经验值有没有受损，哼哼。
【在 H******i 的大作中提到】
: http://www.niunational.com/portal.php
: click on donate
【在 H******i 的大作中提到】
: http://www.niunational.com/portal.php
: click on donate
N*r
16 楼
1-140 批准后，就应该进入 485 pending ; 可以让交485， 有EAD， AP，然后大家可
以等。
以等。
A*g
17 楼
那也就是说140满180天以后就可以换工作而不用重新办perm, 这个要求估计USCIS未必
能接受
beneficiaries after I-140 has been approved for 180 days, if because of
country limit reason these petitioners/beneficiaries can't file I-485.
bulletin. If you want to file I-485, you have to work with DOS, but DOS
will say they can't make everyone current because USCIS has limited
resources. You'll end up like a ball kicking by USCIS and DOS.
If USCIS can issue EAD to F-1 students for OPT, why they can not issue EAD
to EB2 and EB3?
【在 H******i 的大作中提到】
: ask USCIS to issue EAD to employment-based immigration petitioners/beneficiaries after I-140 has been approved for 180 days, if because of country limit reason these petitioners/beneficiaries can't file I-485.
: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
: USCIS can NOT accept I-485 if your priority date is after the visa bulletin. If you want to file I-485, you have to work with DOS, but DOS will say they can't make everyone current because USCIS has limited resources. You'll end up like a ball kicking by USCIS and DOS.
: The EAD can provide some relief to our pains in waiting for visa bulletin. If USCIS can issue EAD to F-1 students for OPT, why they can not issue EAD to EB2 and EB3?
能接受
beneficiaries after I-140 has been approved for 180 days, if because of
country limit reason these petitioners/beneficiaries can't file I-485.
bulletin. If you want to file I-485, you have to work with DOS, but DOS
will say they can't make everyone current because USCIS has limited
resources. You'll end up like a ball kicking by USCIS and DOS.
If USCIS can issue EAD to F-1 students for OPT, why they can not issue EAD
to EB2 and EB3?
【在 H******i 的大作中提到】
: ask USCIS to issue EAD to employment-based immigration petitioners/beneficiaries after I-140 has been approved for 180 days, if because of country limit reason these petitioners/beneficiaries can't file I-485.
: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
: USCIS can NOT accept I-485 if your priority date is after the visa bulletin. If you want to file I-485, you have to work with DOS, but DOS will say they can't make everyone current because USCIS has limited resources. You'll end up like a ball kicking by USCIS and DOS.
: The EAD can provide some relief to our pains in waiting for visa bulletin. If USCIS can issue EAD to F-1 students for OPT, why they can not issue EAD to EB2 and EB3?
H*i
18 楼
Sorry, but I have edited my post to accept all your inputs.
I'll give you 20 baozi
转帐完成
转给用户:Beijing,现金(伪币):20,收取手续费:0.20
and I give you a beautiful song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubeVUnGQOIk
【在 B*****g 的大作中提到】
: 你们删我的贴字，不知道经验值有没有受损，哼哼。
I'll give you 20 baozi
转帐完成
转给用户:Beijing,现金(伪币):20,收取手续费:0.20
and I give you a beautiful song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubeVUnGQOIk
【在 B*****g 的大作中提到】
: 你们删我的贴字，不知道经验值有没有受损，哼哼。
B*g
19 楼
那申请者本人的EAD有什么用？给公司省钱不用续H１？
EAD
【在 A**********g 的大作中提到】
: 那也就是说140满180天以后就可以换工作而不用重新办perm, 这个要求估计USCIS未必
: 能接受
:
: beneficiaries after I-140 has been approved for 180 days, if because of
: country limit reason these petitioners/beneficiaries can't file I-485.
: bulletin. If you want to file I-485, you have to work with DOS, but DOS
: will say they can't make everyone current because USCIS has limited
: resources. You'll end up like a ball kicking by USCIS and DOS.
: If USCIS can issue EAD to F-1 students for OPT, why they can not issue EAD
: to EB2 and EB3?
EAD
【在 A**********g 的大作中提到】
: 那也就是说140满180天以后就可以换工作而不用重新办perm, 这个要求估计USCIS未必
: 能接受
:
: beneficiaries after I-140 has been approved for 180 days, if because of
: country limit reason these petitioners/beneficiaries can't file I-485.
: bulletin. If you want to file I-485, you have to work with DOS, but DOS
: will say they can't make everyone current because USCIS has limited
: resources. You'll end up like a ball kicking by USCIS and DOS.
: If USCIS can issue EAD to F-1 students for OPT, why they can not issue EAD
: to EB2 and EB3?
B*g
20 楼
heihei
【在 H******i 的大作中提到】
: Sorry, but I have edited my post to accept all your inputs.
: I'll give you 20 baozi
: 转帐完成
: 转给用户:Beijing,现金(伪币):20,收取手续费:0.20
: and I give you a beautiful song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubeVUnGQOIk
【在 H******i 的大作中提到】
: Sorry, but I have edited my post to accept all your inputs.
: I'll give you 20 baozi
: 转帐完成
: 转给用户:Beijing,现金(伪币):20,收取手续费:0.20
: and I give you a beautiful song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubeVUnGQOIk
A*g
21 楼
好像之前有个人的提议很好， 就是priority date在cutoff date之后1年的都可以交
485。
把递交485和批准485的日子分开。 这样一可以建立库存， DOS订定排期可以更准确。
二他们可以预处理485， 当有大量剩余的时候， 不会浪费名额。
这个提议在USCIS的职权范围之内， 应该容易接受一点， 不会造成USCIS和DOS踢皮球
【在 N*********L 的大作中提到】
: NIU的提前递交485倡议项目组已经如火如荼的展开工作了。我们很高兴的向大家汇报一
: 下，目前项目组已经有将近10名成员。已经有一些项目方向的议案。现在，项目组的正
: 在讨论确定一个简单可行的项目方案。 我们的项目方案需要：
: 1） 简单可行
: 2） 方向单一
: 3） 门槛低
: 我们要把最大的人力资源聚集在一点上统筹规划。项目组成员都是志愿者。每个人都有
: 自己繁重的工作和生活。所以，我们必须要制定一个最多人感兴趣，门槛低，大家都能
: 做的一件事作为我们下一步的工作重点。
: 现在，项目组向广大NIU捐款人和正在等待递交485的绿卡申请人发出征集项目建议的请
485。
把递交485和批准485的日子分开。 这样一可以建立库存， DOS订定排期可以更准确。
二他们可以预处理485， 当有大量剩余的时候， 不会浪费名额。
这个提议在USCIS的职权范围之内， 应该容易接受一点， 不会造成USCIS和DOS踢皮球
【在 N*********L 的大作中提到】
: NIU的提前递交485倡议项目组已经如火如荼的展开工作了。我们很高兴的向大家汇报一
: 下，目前项目组已经有将近10名成员。已经有一些项目方向的议案。现在，项目组的正
: 在讨论确定一个简单可行的项目方案。 我们的项目方案需要：
: 1） 简单可行
: 2） 方向单一
: 3） 门槛低
: 我们要把最大的人力资源聚集在一点上统筹规划。项目组成员都是志愿者。每个人都有
: 自己繁重的工作和生活。所以，我们必须要制定一个最多人感兴趣，门槛低，大家都能
: 做的一件事作为我们下一步的工作重点。
: 现在，项目组向广大NIU捐款人和正在等待递交485的绿卡申请人发出征集项目建议的请
s*y
22 楼
The last thing USCIS wants to do is to be overwhelmed by I-485 submissions
and applications for EAD and AP.
Proposing 180 days after current cut off date is because it takes 4 to 6
months to process I-485. No EAD and AP application is because DOS and USCIS
believe EAD and AP equalize a conditional green card.
If the cut off date moves past July, 2007, next summer, visa number will be
wasted if there's no pre-adjusted I-485 to be approved. The cut off date
will be retrogressed to July, 2007 at the start of fiscal year 2013 (Oct 1,
2012) if we starts to use our own quota. People with newly submitted I-485
will have to wait another year till 2013 to get green cards.
and applications for EAD and AP.
Proposing 180 days after current cut off date is because it takes 4 to 6
months to process I-485. No EAD and AP application is because DOS and USCIS
believe EAD and AP equalize a conditional green card.
If the cut off date moves past July, 2007, next summer, visa number will be
wasted if there's no pre-adjusted I-485 to be approved. The cut off date
will be retrogressed to July, 2007 at the start of fiscal year 2013 (Oct 1,
2012) if we starts to use our own quota. People with newly submitted I-485
will have to wait another year till 2013 to get green cards.
c*s
23 楼
The question is that How many EB2Cs really act to push O/uscis.
j*e
24 楼
well said，"DOS and USCIS believe EAD and AP equalize a conditional green
card."
USCIS
be
,
【在 s********y 的大作中提到】
: The last thing USCIS wants to do is to be overwhelmed by I-485 submissions
: and applications for EAD and AP.
: Proposing 180 days after current cut off date is because it takes 4 to 6
: months to process I-485. No EAD and AP application is because DOS and USCIS
: believe EAD and AP equalize a conditional green card.
: If the cut off date moves past July, 2007, next summer, visa number will be
: wasted if there's no pre-adjusted I-485 to be approved. The cut off date
: will be retrogressed to July, 2007 at the start of fiscal year 2013 (Oct 1,
: 2012) if we starts to use our own quota. People with newly submitted I-485
: will have to wait another year till 2013 to get green cards.
card."
USCIS
be
,
【在 s********y 的大作中提到】
: The last thing USCIS wants to do is to be overwhelmed by I-485 submissions
: and applications for EAD and AP.
: Proposing 180 days after current cut off date is because it takes 4 to 6
: months to process I-485. No EAD and AP application is because DOS and USCIS
: believe EAD and AP equalize a conditional green card.
: If the cut off date moves past July, 2007, next summer, visa number will be
: wasted if there's no pre-adjusted I-485 to be approved. The cut off date
: will be retrogressed to July, 2007 at the start of fiscal year 2013 (Oct 1,
: 2012) if we starts to use our own quota. People with newly submitted I-485
: will have to wait another year till 2013 to get green cards.
y*r
25 楼
我看大潮后没交485的都有这个诉求吧
j*e
26 楼
yes, 这个提议是很好，比要求完全放开485递交的难度降低了很多。不过相对难度是降
低了，绝对难度其实还是比较高的。要实现这条，先要修改政府行政法规CFR 245.1 (g
) (1)，而修改政府行政法规虽然不需要通过国会，但手续还是很复杂的。摘录一些近
期NIU 485提前递交小组内部讨论email：
=================================================================
关于政府以前的有关提前处理485的议案 （RIN: 1615-AB82），我今天晚上又看了一下
相关信息。跟大家讨论一下
1) 每个在这个email list 上的志愿者,请把这个网页好好读一下.
http://www.reginfo.gov/public/jsp/Utilities/faq.jsp
这里的信息对我们十分重要, 告诉了我们如果有需求,怎么向政府机构反映. 我们的依
据就是
Executive Order 12866 和 Executive Order 13563.
2) 什么情况下, 机构(agency) 认为这个提案是"significant"? 答案里面有4条. 我们
需要考虑,我们的诉求怎么能往这些方面靠.
3) 公众如果看到感兴趣的提案, 怎么反映自己的看法? 这里提到的是, 直接联系
agency. 每个提案后面都有agency contact 的名字, 电话, 信箱 etc.
Q. How can outside parties best make their ideas about rules under review
known to OIRA?
A. The best way to participate in rulemaking is to submit comments
directly to the agency during the proposed rule stage. For more information
on this question, you should contact the agency directly, view the Federal
Register for notices seeking public comments, and/or file comments via http://www.regulations.gov. In addition to submitting comments through regulations.gov, outside parties may provide written comments to the OIRA Administrator on a regulatory action under review. Parties may also request a meeting with the Administrator.
请每个人务必好好好把上面的那个网页读一下,看看还有什么可以我们利用的信息.
=================================================================
我看了一下，非常有用的信息。进一步搜索，发现这个RIN: 1615-AB82在今年春天被
merge到RIN：1615-AA46里了，see
http://www.reginfo.gov/public/do/eAgendaViewRule?pubId=201104&R
这个RIN：1615-AA46概要里似乎没有提到的485提早递交的任何词句，只是在讲140和
485 concurrent
filing，而且要在有Visa名额的前提下。但是该网页有一个链接，链接到07/31/2002生
效的一个Interim Final
Rule: 67 FR 49561 , see
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2002-07-31/pdf/02-19249.pdf#pag
在这个Interim Final Rule里我看到了那条臭名昭著的CFR 245.1 (g) (1)和245.2
(a)(2)(i)就是在那时候改成现在这个样子的，see page 4中间 "4. Section 245.1 is
amended by
revising the third sentence in paragraph (g)(1) to read as follows:"
和"5. Section 245.2 is amended by revising paragraph (a)(2)(i), to read
as follows:" 不过当时改之前是什么样子我不清楚。
现在我们到底是继续在这个RIN：1615-AA46里面加入我们的要求，还是要求另开一个
RIN，专门针对485递交的问题，哪一个更快，更容易实现，还是需要通过与相关Agency
人员的沟通以后再说。
=================================================================
【在 A**********g 的大作中提到】
: 好像之前有个人的提议很好， 就是priority date在cutoff date之后1年的都可以交
: 485。
: 把递交485和批准485的日子分开。 这样一可以建立库存， DOS订定排期可以更准确。
: 二他们可以预处理485， 当有大量剩余的时候， 不会浪费名额。
: 这个提议在USCIS的职权范围之内， 应该容易接受一点， 不会造成USCIS和DOS踢皮球
低了，绝对难度其实还是比较高的。要实现这条，先要修改政府行政法规CFR 245.1 (g
) (1)，而修改政府行政法规虽然不需要通过国会，但手续还是很复杂的。摘录一些近
期NIU 485提前递交小组内部讨论email：
=================================================================
关于政府以前的有关提前处理485的议案 （RIN: 1615-AB82），我今天晚上又看了一下
相关信息。跟大家讨论一下
1) 每个在这个email list 上的志愿者,请把这个网页好好读一下.
http://www.reginfo.gov/public/jsp/Utilities/faq.jsp
这里的信息对我们十分重要, 告诉了我们如果有需求,怎么向政府机构反映. 我们的依
据就是
Executive Order 12866 和 Executive Order 13563.
2) 什么情况下, 机构(agency) 认为这个提案是"significant"? 答案里面有4条. 我们
需要考虑,我们的诉求怎么能往这些方面靠.
3) 公众如果看到感兴趣的提案, 怎么反映自己的看法? 这里提到的是, 直接联系
agency. 每个提案后面都有agency contact 的名字, 电话, 信箱 etc.
Q. How can outside parties best make their ideas about rules under review
known to OIRA?
A. The best way to participate in rulemaking is to submit comments
directly to the agency during the proposed rule stage. For more information
on this question, you should contact the agency directly, view the Federal
Register for notices seeking public comments, and/or file comments via http://www.regulations.gov. In addition to submitting comments through regulations.gov, outside parties may provide written comments to the OIRA Administrator on a regulatory action under review. Parties may also request a meeting with the Administrator.
请每个人务必好好好把上面的那个网页读一下,看看还有什么可以我们利用的信息.
=================================================================
我看了一下，非常有用的信息。进一步搜索，发现这个RIN: 1615-AB82在今年春天被
merge到RIN：1615-AA46里了，see
http://www.reginfo.gov/public/do/eAgendaViewRule?pubId=201104&R
这个RIN：1615-AA46概要里似乎没有提到的485提早递交的任何词句，只是在讲140和
485 concurrent
filing，而且要在有Visa名额的前提下。但是该网页有一个链接，链接到07/31/2002生
效的一个Interim Final
Rule: 67 FR 49561 , see
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2002-07-31/pdf/02-19249.pdf#pag
在这个Interim Final Rule里我看到了那条臭名昭著的CFR 245.1 (g) (1)和245.2
(a)(2)(i)就是在那时候改成现在这个样子的，see page 4中间 "4. Section 245.1 is
amended by
revising the third sentence in paragraph (g)(1) to read as follows:"
和"5. Section 245.2 is amended by revising paragraph (a)(2)(i), to read
as follows:" 不过当时改之前是什么样子我不清楚。
现在我们到底是继续在这个RIN：1615-AA46里面加入我们的要求，还是要求另开一个
RIN，专门针对485递交的问题，哪一个更快，更容易实现，还是需要通过与相关Agency
人员的沟通以后再说。
=================================================================
【在 A**********g 的大作中提到】
: 好像之前有个人的提议很好， 就是priority date在cutoff date之后1年的都可以交
: 485。
: 把递交485和批准485的日子分开。 这样一可以建立库存， DOS订定排期可以更准确。
: 二他们可以预处理485， 当有大量剩余的时候， 不会浪费名额。
: 这个提议在USCIS的职权范围之内， 应该容易接受一点， 不会造成USCIS和DOS踢皮球
H*i
27 楼
Then the visa bulletin will simply retrogress, if now it's April 15, 2007,
then Oppenheim can set it to April 15, 2006. If he does so, EB2 after April
15 2007 still can't submit I-485.
also, I-485 comes to USCIS not by priority dates, if now they say you can
submit I-485 if your PD is between April 2007 to March 2008. Thousands of I
-485 with PD of March 2008 may be submitted earlier than those with PD in
Apirl 2007. USCIS will have to sort all petitions by time order to process.
That's extra work without improving their performance.
【在 A**********g 的大作中提到】
: 好像之前有个人的提议很好， 就是priority date在cutoff date之后1年的都可以交
: 485。
: 把递交485和批准485的日子分开。 这样一可以建立库存， DOS订定排期可以更准确。
: 二他们可以预处理485， 当有大量剩余的时候， 不会浪费名额。
: 这个提议在USCIS的职权范围之内， 应该容易接受一点， 不会造成USCIS和DOS踢皮球
then Oppenheim can set it to April 15, 2006. If he does so, EB2 after April
15 2007 still can't submit I-485.
also, I-485 comes to USCIS not by priority dates, if now they say you can
submit I-485 if your PD is between April 2007 to March 2008. Thousands of I
-485 with PD of March 2008 may be submitted earlier than those with PD in
Apirl 2007. USCIS will have to sort all petitions by time order to process.
That's extra work without improving their performance.
【在 A**********g 的大作中提到】
: 好像之前有个人的提议很好， 就是priority date在cutoff date之后1年的都可以交
: 485。
: 把递交485和批准485的日子分开。 这样一可以建立库存， DOS订定排期可以更准确。
: 二他们可以预处理485， 当有大量剩余的时候， 不会浪费名额。
: 这个提议在USCIS的职权范围之内， 应该容易接受一点， 不会造成USCIS和DOS踢皮球
h*e
28 楼
绝对支持，另外也应该向申请者的配偶发EAD卡。
beneficiaries after I-140 has been approved for 180 days, if because of
country limit reason these petitioners/beneficiaries can't file I-485.
bulletin. If you want to file I-485, you have to work with DOS, but DOS
will say they can't make everyone current because USCIS has limited
resources. You'll end up like a ball kicking by USCIS and DOS.
If USCIS can issue EAD to F-1 students for OPT, why they can not issue EAD
to EB2 and EB3?
【在 H******i 的大作中提到】
: ask USCIS to issue EAD to employment-based immigration petitioners/beneficiaries after I-140 has been approved for 180 days, if because of country limit reason these petitioners/beneficiaries can't file I-485.
: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
: USCIS can NOT accept I-485 if your priority date is after the visa bulletin. If you want to file I-485, you have to work with DOS, but DOS will say they can't make everyone current because USCIS has limited resources. You'll end up like a ball kicking by USCIS and DOS.
: The EAD can provide some relief to our pains in waiting for visa bulletin. If USCIS can issue EAD to F-1 students for OPT, why they can not issue EAD to EB2 and EB3?
beneficiaries after I-140 has been approved for 180 days, if because of
country limit reason these petitioners/beneficiaries can't file I-485.
bulletin. If you want to file I-485, you have to work with DOS, but DOS
will say they can't make everyone current because USCIS has limited
resources. You'll end up like a ball kicking by USCIS and DOS.
If USCIS can issue EAD to F-1 students for OPT, why they can not issue EAD
to EB2 and EB3?
【在 H******i 的大作中提到】
: ask USCIS to issue EAD to employment-based immigration petitioners/beneficiaries after I-140 has been approved for 180 days, if because of country limit reason these petitioners/beneficiaries can't file I-485.
: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
: USCIS can NOT accept I-485 if your priority date is after the visa bulletin. If you want to file I-485, you have to work with DOS, but DOS will say they can't make everyone current because USCIS has limited resources. You'll end up like a ball kicking by USCIS and DOS.
: The EAD can provide some relief to our pains in waiting for visa bulletin. If USCIS can issue EAD to F-1 students for OPT, why they can not issue EAD to EB2 and EB3?
v*a
29 楼
People who missed the boat (PWMB) also likes to submit I-485 earlier.
Otherwise if the cut off date moves past July 2007 in the last month of
fiscal year 2012 (Sep, 2012), PWMB will become demand in fiscal year 2013.
Does submission of I-485 WITHOUT the benefit of EAD and AP require the
approval of congress? Or is it an administration fix?
Otherwise if the cut off date moves past July 2007 in the last month of
fiscal year 2012 (Sep, 2012), PWMB will become demand in fiscal year 2013.
Does submission of I-485 WITHOUT the benefit of EAD and AP require the
approval of congress? Or is it an administration fix?
c*s
30 楼
讨论几年了，没多少人出来办这事啊。
A*g
31 楼
professional!
(g
【在 j*e 的大作中提到】
: yes, 这个提议是很好，比要求完全放开485递交的难度降低了很多。不过相对难度是降
: 低了，绝对难度其实还是比较高的。要实现这条，先要修改政府行政法规CFR 245.1 (g
: ) (1)，而修改政府行政法规虽然不需要通过国会，但手续还是很复杂的。摘录一些近
: 期NIU 485提前递交小组内部讨论email：
: =================================================================
: 关于政府以前的有关提前处理485的议案 （RIN: 1615-AB82），我今天晚上又看了一下
: 相关信息。跟大家讨论一下
: 1) 每个在这个email list 上的志愿者,请把这个网页好好读一下.
: http://www.reginfo.gov/public/jsp/Utilities/faq.jsp
: 这里的信息对我们十分重要, 告诉了我们如果有需求,怎么向政府机构反映. 我们的依
(g
【在 j*e 的大作中提到】
: yes, 这个提议是很好，比要求完全放开485递交的难度降低了很多。不过相对难度是降
: 低了，绝对难度其实还是比较高的。要实现这条，先要修改政府行政法规CFR 245.1 (g
: ) (1)，而修改政府行政法规虽然不需要通过国会，但手续还是很复杂的。摘录一些近
: 期NIU 485提前递交小组内部讨论email：
: =================================================================
: 关于政府以前的有关提前处理485的议案 （RIN: 1615-AB82），我今天晚上又看了一下
: 相关信息。跟大家讨论一下
: 1) 每个在这个email list 上的志愿者,请把这个网页好好读一下.
: http://www.reginfo.gov/public/jsp/Utilities/faq.jsp
: 这里的信息对我们十分重要, 告诉了我们如果有需求,怎么向政府机构反映. 我们的依
B*g
32 楼
People who missed the boat (PWMB) also like to get GC immediately, hoho
【在 v******a 的大作中提到】
: People who missed the boat (PWMB) also likes to submit I-485 earlier.
: Otherwise if the cut off date moves past July 2007 in the last month of
: fiscal year 2012 (Sep, 2012), PWMB will become demand in fiscal year 2013.
: Does submission of I-485 WITHOUT the benefit of EAD and AP require the
: approval of congress? Or is it an administration fix?
【在 v******a 的大作中提到】
: People who missed the boat (PWMB) also likes to submit I-485 earlier.
: Otherwise if the cut off date moves past July 2007 in the last month of
: fiscal year 2012 (Sep, 2012), PWMB will become demand in fiscal year 2013.
: Does submission of I-485 WITHOUT the benefit of EAD and AP require the
: approval of congress? Or is it an administration fix?
A*g
33 楼
there is no reason to retrogress, because there is no inventory to be
approved before 04/15/2006.
The cutoff is still 04/15/2007, only prioity data before that can be
approved. The 485 submitted between 04/15/2007 and 04/15/2008 is only for
preprocessing like name check. So the case you mentioned that 2008 approved
earlier than 2007 won't happen.
April
I
process.
【在 H******i 的大作中提到】
: Then the visa bulletin will simply retrogress, if now it's April 15, 2007,
: then Oppenheim can set it to April 15, 2006. If he does so, EB2 after April
: 15 2007 still can't submit I-485.
: also, I-485 comes to USCIS not by priority dates, if now they say you can
: submit I-485 if your PD is between April 2007 to March 2008. Thousands of I
: -485 with PD of March 2008 may be submitted earlier than those with PD in
: Apirl 2007. USCIS will have to sort all petitions by time order to process.
: That's extra work without improving their performance.
approved before 04/15/2006.
The cutoff is still 04/15/2007, only prioity data before that can be
approved. The 485 submitted between 04/15/2007 and 04/15/2008 is only for
preprocessing like name check. So the case you mentioned that 2008 approved
earlier than 2007 won't happen.
April
I
process.
【在 H******i 的大作中提到】
: Then the visa bulletin will simply retrogress, if now it's April 15, 2007,
: then Oppenheim can set it to April 15, 2006. If he does so, EB2 after April
: 15 2007 still can't submit I-485.
: also, I-485 comes to USCIS not by priority dates, if now they say you can
: submit I-485 if your PD is between April 2007 to March 2008. Thousands of I
: -485 with PD of March 2008 may be submitted earlier than those with PD in
: Apirl 2007. USCIS will have to sort all petitions by time order to process.
: That's extra work without improving their performance.
H*i
34 楼
according to descriptions of the work processes in USCIS, workers go to the
pool to get a pile of petition cases and start process these cases. they
don't process the petitions by PD, they simply take cases without knowing
what the PD is.
that's why some people got GC with PD of March 2007 but some other people
with PD of December 2006 are still waiting. Because the December 2006 case
may be put under the March 2007 case and is still waiting to be picked up by
a USCIS worker.
Now if USCIS implement your proposal. And the visa bulletin is April 2007.
The result will be, people with PD prior to April 2008 will submit I-485.
All these cases are received by USCIS without knowing what the PD is until a
worker picks up the case from the petitions pool.
In the past, the worker can approve any cases he or she picked up, because
it's prior to VB.
Now, the worker picked up 20 cases and found out 15 of them are not prior to
VB. she or he has to put these 15 cases back to the pool. That's the waste
of time.
To avoid the waste of time, someone has to sort the cases by PD and
distribute the cases to workers to process. The VB has 4 possible dates
every month, that means USCIS needs to hire a team to sort all cases by 4
small groups in each month and then by month then by year. This involves
extra work.
approved
【在 A**********g 的大作中提到】
: there is no reason to retrogress, because there is no inventory to be
: approved before 04/15/2006.
: The cutoff is still 04/15/2007, only prioity data before that can be
: approved. The 485 submitted between 04/15/2007 and 04/15/2008 is only for
: preprocessing like name check. So the case you mentioned that 2008 approved
: earlier than 2007 won't happen.
:
: April
: I
: process.
pool to get a pile of petition cases and start process these cases. they
don't process the petitions by PD, they simply take cases without knowing
what the PD is.
that's why some people got GC with PD of March 2007 but some other people
with PD of December 2006 are still waiting. Because the December 2006 case
may be put under the March 2007 case and is still waiting to be picked up by
a USCIS worker.
Now if USCIS implement your proposal. And the visa bulletin is April 2007.
The result will be, people with PD prior to April 2008 will submit I-485.
All these cases are received by USCIS without knowing what the PD is until a
worker picks up the case from the petitions pool.
In the past, the worker can approve any cases he or she picked up, because
it's prior to VB.
Now, the worker picked up 20 cases and found out 15 of them are not prior to
VB. she or he has to put these 15 cases back to the pool. That's the waste
of time.
To avoid the waste of time, someone has to sort the cases by PD and
distribute the cases to workers to process. The VB has 4 possible dates
every month, that means USCIS needs to hire a team to sort all cases by 4
small groups in each month and then by month then by year. This involves
extra work.
approved
【在 A**********g 的大作中提到】
: there is no reason to retrogress, because there is no inventory to be
: approved before 04/15/2006.
: The cutoff is still 04/15/2007, only prioity data before that can be
: approved. The 485 submitted between 04/15/2007 and 04/15/2008 is only for
: preprocessing like name check. So the case you mentioned that 2008 approved
: earlier than 2007 won't happen.
:
: April
: I
: process.
w*6
35 楼
USCIS released a new policy on Aug.2, 2011
USCIS Initiatives to Promote Startup Enterprises and Spur Job Creation
If our H-1B holders with I-140 approval (180-365 days) could have a EAD,
everyone under this status could easily open a company, which will create
more jobs for American workers and also will increase tax payment. They may
happy to see this.
For those they don't want to open a company themself, they can keep their
full time H-1B visa and easily find another part-time jobs without a big
payment.
USCIS Initiatives to Promote Startup Enterprises and Spur Job Creation
If our H-1B holders with I-140 approval (180-365 days) could have a EAD,
everyone under this status could easily open a company, which will create
more jobs for American workers and also will increase tax payment. They may
happy to see this.
For those they don't want to open a company themself, they can keep their
full time H-1B visa and easily find another part-time jobs without a big
payment.
j*e
36 楼
你理解错了，485递交进去以后，CIS是按PD排序的，每月VB一公布，他就把所有
Current的case挑出来，形成一个pool，然后workers go to the pool to get a pile
of petition cases，而未current的cases仍旧留在墙角，不会进入那个pool，也不会
被批。进入那个pool的cases确实是全部打乱批的。
the
case
by
【在 H******i 的大作中提到】
: according to descriptions of the work processes in USCIS, workers go to the
: pool to get a pile of petition cases and start process these cases. they
: don't process the petitions by PD, they simply take cases without knowing
: what the PD is.
: that's why some people got GC with PD of March 2007 but some other people
: with PD of December 2006 are still waiting. Because the December 2006 case
: may be put under the March 2007 case and is still waiting to be picked up by
: a USCIS worker.
: Now if USCIS implement your proposal. And the visa bulletin is April 2007.
: The result will be, people with PD prior to April 2008 will submit I-485.
Current的case挑出来，形成一个pool，然后workers go to the pool to get a pile
of petition cases，而未current的cases仍旧留在墙角，不会进入那个pool，也不会
被批。进入那个pool的cases确实是全部打乱批的。
the
case
by
【在 H******i 的大作中提到】
: according to descriptions of the work processes in USCIS, workers go to the
: pool to get a pile of petition cases and start process these cases. they
: don't process the petitions by PD, they simply take cases without knowing
: what the PD is.
: that's why some people got GC with PD of March 2007 but some other people
: with PD of December 2006 are still waiting. Because the December 2006 case
: may be put under the March 2007 case and is still waiting to be picked up by
: a USCIS worker.
: Now if USCIS implement your proposal. And the visa bulletin is April 2007.
: The result will be, people with PD prior to April 2008 will submit I-485.
B*g
37 楼
what is this?
may
【在 w**********6 的大作中提到】
: USCIS released a new policy on Aug.2, 2011
: USCIS Initiatives to Promote Startup Enterprises and Spur Job Creation
: If our H-1B holders with I-140 approval (180-365 days) could have a EAD,
: everyone under this status could easily open a company, which will create
: more jobs for American workers and also will increase tax payment. They may
: happy to see this.
: For those they don't want to open a company themself, they can keep their
: full time H-1B visa and easily find another part-time jobs without a big
: payment.
may
【在 w**********6 的大作中提到】
: USCIS released a new policy on Aug.2, 2011
: USCIS Initiatives to Promote Startup Enterprises and Spur Job Creation
: If our H-1B holders with I-140 approval (180-365 days) could have a EAD,
: everyone under this status could easily open a company, which will create
: more jobs for American workers and also will increase tax payment. They may
: happy to see this.
: For those they don't want to open a company themself, they can keep their
: full time H-1B visa and easily find another part-time jobs without a big
: payment.
w*6
38 楼
USCIS released a new policy on Aug.2, 2011
USCIS Initiatives to Promote Startup Enterprises and Spur Job Creation
But this new rule does not work for H-1B visa holder. It does not allow H-
1B visa holder to be self-employed in company if there is no board directors
in small company. EAD will give us a big opportunity to run business.
Tell USCIS if H-1B visa holders with I-140 approval could have EAD, some of
us will open companies, which will create more jobs for American workers and
increase more tax payment. USCIS may be happy to see this.
For those people who are not interested in self-business, they can keep full
-time H-1B visa, easily find a part-time job without lots of cost.
USCIS Initiatives to Promote Startup Enterprises and Spur Job Creation
But this new rule does not work for H-1B visa holder. It does not allow H-
1B visa holder to be self-employed in company if there is no board directors
in small company. EAD will give us a big opportunity to run business.
Tell USCIS if H-1B visa holders with I-140 approval could have EAD, some of
us will open companies, which will create more jobs for American workers and
increase more tax payment. USCIS may be happy to see this.
For those people who are not interested in self-business, they can keep full
-time H-1B visa, easily find a part-time job without lots of cost.
w*6
39 楼
USCIS released a new policy on Aug.2, 2011
USCIS Initiatives to Promote Startup Enterprises and Spur Job Creation
But this new rule does not work for H-1B visa holder. It does not allow H-
1B visa holder to be self-employed in company if there is no board directors
in small company. EAD will give us a big opportunity to run business.
Tell USCIS if H-1B visa holders with I-140 approval could have EAD, some of
us will open companies, which will create more jobs for American workers and
increase more tax payment. USCIS may be happy to see this.
For those people who are not interested in self-business, they can keep full
-time H-1B visa, easily find a part-time job without lots of cost.
USCIS Initiatives to Promote Startup Enterprises and Spur Job Creation
But this new rule does not work for H-1B visa holder. It does not allow H-
1B visa holder to be self-employed in company if there is no board directors
in small company. EAD will give us a big opportunity to run business.
Tell USCIS if H-1B visa holders with I-140 approval could have EAD, some of
us will open companies, which will create more jobs for American workers and
increase more tax payment. USCIS may be happy to see this.
For those people who are not interested in self-business, they can keep full
-time H-1B visa, easily find a part-time job without lots of cost.
H*i
40 楼
Thank you for clarifying.
But it still involves changing the current rule of "not accepting I-485
petitions with PD after VB". It's a big challenge.
pile
【在 j*e 的大作中提到】
: 你理解错了，485递交进去以后，CIS是按PD排序的，每月VB一公布，他就把所有
: Current的case挑出来，形成一个pool，然后workers go to the pool to get a pile
: of petition cases，而未current的cases仍旧留在墙角，不会进入那个pool，也不会
: 被批。进入那个pool的cases确实是全部打乱批的。
:
: the
: case
: by
But it still involves changing the current rule of "not accepting I-485
petitions with PD after VB". It's a big challenge.
pile
【在 j*e 的大作中提到】
: 你理解错了，485递交进去以后，CIS是按PD排序的，每月VB一公布，他就把所有
: Current的case挑出来，形成一个pool，然后workers go to the pool to get a pile
: of petition cases，而未current的cases仍旧留在墙角，不会进入那个pool，也不会
: 被批。进入那个pool的cases确实是全部打乱批的。
:
: the
: case
: by
w*6
41 楼
USCIS released a new policy on Aug.2, 2011
USCIS Initiatives to Promote Startup Enterprises and Spur Job Creation
But this new rule does not work for H-1B visa holder. It does not allow H-
1B visa holder to be self-employed in company if there is no board directors
in small company. EAD will give us a big opportunity to run business.
Tell USCIS if H-1B visa holders with I-140 approval could have EAD, some of
us will open companies, which will create more jobs for American workers and
increase more tax payment. USCIS may be happy to see this.
For those people who are not interested in self-business, they can keep full
-time H-1B visa, easily find a part-time job without lots of cost.
USCIS Initiatives to Promote Startup Enterprises and Spur Job Creation
But this new rule does not work for H-1B visa holder. It does not allow H-
1B visa holder to be self-employed in company if there is no board directors
in small company. EAD will give us a big opportunity to run business.
Tell USCIS if H-1B visa holders with I-140 approval could have EAD, some of
us will open companies, which will create more jobs for American workers and
increase more tax payment. USCIS may be happy to see this.
For those people who are not interested in self-business, they can keep full
-time H-1B visa, easily find a part-time job without lots of cost.
j*e
42 楼
yes, 所以我说“比要求完全放开485递交的难度降低了很多。不过相对难度是降
低了，绝对难度其实还是比较高的。”
【在 H******i 的大作中提到】
: Thank you for clarifying.
: But it still involves changing the current rule of "not accepting I-485
: petitions with PD after VB". It's a big challenge.
:
: pile
低了，绝对难度其实还是比较高的。”
【在 H******i 的大作中提到】
: Thank you for clarifying.
: But it still involves changing the current rule of "not accepting I-485
: petitions with PD after VB". It's a big challenge.
:
: pile
w*6
43 楼
USCIS released a new policy on Aug.2, 2011
USCIS Initiatives to Promote Startup Enterprises and Spur Job Creation
But this new rule does not work for H-1B visa holder. It does not allow H-
1B visa holder to be self-employed in company if there is no board directors
in small company. EAD will give us a big opportunity to run business.
Tell USCIS if H-1B visa holders with I-140 approval could have EAD, some of
us will open companies, which will create more jobs for American workers and
increase more tax payment. USCIS may be happy to see this.
For those people who are not interested in self-business, they can keep full
-time H-1B visa, easily find a part-time job without lots of cost.
USCIS Initiatives to Promote Startup Enterprises and Spur Job Creation
But this new rule does not work for H-1B visa holder. It does not allow H-
1B visa holder to be self-employed in company if there is no board directors
in small company. EAD will give us a big opportunity to run business.
Tell USCIS if H-1B visa holders with I-140 approval could have EAD, some of
us will open companies, which will create more jobs for American workers and
increase more tax payment. USCIS may be happy to see this.
For those people who are not interested in self-business, they can keep full
-time H-1B visa, easily find a part-time job without lots of cost.
H*i
44 楼
It's difficult because it lowers the importance of Visa Bulletin, which is
from the Department of State. Any changes involving another agency or
department will have to be escalated up to very high levels, and many inter-
departmental meetings will have to be organized. Nobody likes to work with
another department or another agency.
【在 j*e 的大作中提到】
: yes, 所以我说“比要求完全放开485递交的难度降低了很多。不过相对难度是降
: 低了，绝对难度其实还是比较高的。”
from the Department of State. Any changes involving another agency or
department will have to be escalated up to very high levels, and many inter-
departmental meetings will have to be organized. Nobody likes to work with
another department or another agency.
【在 j*e 的大作中提到】
: yes, 所以我说“比要求完全放开485递交的难度降低了很多。不过相对难度是降
: 低了，绝对难度其实还是比较高的。”
j*e
45 楼
我觉得在VB日期上加半年/一年作为递交485日期的方案并没有降低VB的重要性，因为还
是要看VB，批要看VB，交也要看VB (VB+6 or 12m)，而且有利于奥本准确估计Demand，
更准确制定VB，避免浪费。对USCIS，DOS和EB申请者三方都是有利的事。
inter-
with
【在 H******i 的大作中提到】
: It's difficult because it lowers the importance of Visa Bulletin, which is
: from the Department of State. Any changes involving another agency or
: department will have to be escalated up to very high levels, and many inter-
: departmental meetings will have to be organized. Nobody likes to work with
: another department or another agency.
是要看VB，批要看VB，交也要看VB (VB+6 or 12m)，而且有利于奥本准确估计Demand，
更准确制定VB，避免浪费。对USCIS，DOS和EB申请者三方都是有利的事。
inter-
with
【在 H******i 的大作中提到】
: It's difficult because it lowers the importance of Visa Bulletin, which is
: from the Department of State. Any changes involving another agency or
: department will have to be escalated up to very high levels, and many inter-
: departmental meetings will have to be organized. Nobody likes to work with
: another department or another agency.
z*p
46 楼
如果是把提交I-485后的申请EAD提前. 就应该包括配偶吧.
而且我觉得是应该啊.否则如何体现一个家庭的成员都能拿到AP/EAD的利益呢?
不懂....
EAD
【在 h******e 的大作中提到】
: 绝对支持，另外也应该向申请者的配偶发EAD卡。
:
: beneficiaries after I-140 has been approved for 180 days, if because of
: country limit reason these petitioners/beneficiaries can't file I-485.
: bulletin. If you want to file I-485, you have to work with DOS, but DOS
: will say they can't make everyone current because USCIS has limited
: resources. You'll end up like a ball kicking by USCIS and DOS.
: If USCIS can issue EAD to F-1 students for OPT, why they can not issue EAD
: to EB2 and EB3?
而且我觉得是应该啊.否则如何体现一个家庭的成员都能拿到AP/EAD的利益呢?
不懂....
EAD
【在 h******e 的大作中提到】
: 绝对支持，另外也应该向申请者的配偶发EAD卡。
:
: beneficiaries after I-140 has been approved for 180 days, if because of
: country limit reason these petitioners/beneficiaries can't file I-485.
: bulletin. If you want to file I-485, you have to work with DOS, but DOS
: will say they can't make everyone current because USCIS has limited
: resources. You'll end up like a ball kicking by USCIS and DOS.
: If USCIS can issue EAD to F-1 students for OPT, why they can not issue EAD
: to EB2 and EB3?
z*p
47 楼
多谢! 晚上回家后去支持.
http://www.niunational.com/portal.php
click on donate
【在 H******i 的大作中提到】
: http://www.niunational.com/portal.php
: click on donate
http://www.niunational.com/portal.php
click on donate
【在 H******i 的大作中提到】
: http://www.niunational.com/portal.php
: click on donate
a*e
48 楼
这并没有减低VB的重要性。如果VB没到，绿卡还是不能批的呀。而且，交485的日期，
也是根据VB定的。
到底到时是用VB+半年，还是VB+一年，这可以根据当时SO的数量，新收的485的数量等
等real time data进行调整。这实际上是对当前系统的一个改善。
我们之所以要提建议，就是对现在的系统不满，希望他改。至于他们愿意不愿意，我们
不用去猜测。只要强调改善的好处，和施加足够的压力，他们会去权衡利弊。不能因为
怕他们嫌麻烦，我们就不去做吧。谋事在人，所以大家才在这里讨论，把它的可行性提
到最高。最后成不成，看机缘了。
inter-
with
【在 H******i 的大作中提到】
: It's difficult because it lowers the importance of Visa Bulletin, which is
: from the Department of State. Any changes involving another agency or
: department will have to be escalated up to very high levels, and many inter-
: departmental meetings will have to be organized. Nobody likes to work with
: another department or another agency.
也是根据VB定的。
到底到时是用VB+半年，还是VB+一年，这可以根据当时SO的数量，新收的485的数量等
等real time data进行调整。这实际上是对当前系统的一个改善。
我们之所以要提建议，就是对现在的系统不满，希望他改。至于他们愿意不愿意，我们
不用去猜测。只要强调改善的好处，和施加足够的压力，他们会去权衡利弊。不能因为
怕他们嫌麻烦，我们就不去做吧。谋事在人，所以大家才在这里讨论，把它的可行性提
到最高。最后成不成，看机缘了。
inter-
with
【在 H******i 的大作中提到】
: It's difficult because it lowers the importance of Visa Bulletin, which is
: from the Department of State. Any changes involving another agency or
: department will have to be escalated up to very high levels, and many inter-
: departmental meetings will have to be organized. Nobody likes to work with
: another department or another agency.
w*6
49 楼
USCIS released a new policy on Aug.2, 2011
USCIS Initiatives to Promote Startup Enterprises and Spur Job Creation
But this new rule does not work for H-1B visa holder. It does not allow H-
1B visa holder to be self-employed in company if there is no board directors
in small company. EAD will give us a big opportunity to run business.
Tell USCIS if H-1B visa holders with I-140 approval could have EAD, some of
us will open companies, which will create more jobs for American workers and
increase more tax payment. USCIS may be happy to see this.
For those people who are not interested in self-business, they can keep full
-time H-1B visa, easily find a part-time job without lots of cost.
USCIS Initiatives to Promote Startup Enterprises and Spur Job Creation
But this new rule does not work for H-1B visa holder. It does not allow H-
1B visa holder to be self-employed in company if there is no board directors
in small company. EAD will give us a big opportunity to run business.
Tell USCIS if H-1B visa holders with I-140 approval could have EAD, some of
us will open companies, which will create more jobs for American workers and
increase more tax payment. USCIS may be happy to see this.
For those people who are not interested in self-business, they can keep full
-time H-1B visa, easily find a part-time job without lots of cost.
s*m
50 楼
re
【在 N*********L 的大作中提到】
: NIU的提前递交485倡议项目组已经如火如荼的展开工作了。我们很高兴的向大家汇报一
: 下，目前项目组已经有将近10名成员。已经有一些项目方向的议案。现在，项目组的正
: 在讨论确定一个简单可行的项目方案。 我们的项目方案需要：
: 1） 简单可行
: 2） 方向单一
: 3） 门槛低
: 我们要把最大的人力资源聚集在一点上统筹规划。项目组成员都是志愿者。每个人都有
: 自己繁重的工作和生活。所以，我们必须要制定一个最多人感兴趣，门槛低，大家都能
: 做的一件事作为我们下一步的工作重点。
: 现在，项目组向广大NIU捐款人和正在等待递交485的绿卡申请人发出征集项目建议的请
【在 N*********L 的大作中提到】
: NIU的提前递交485倡议项目组已经如火如荼的展开工作了。我们很高兴的向大家汇报一
: 下，目前项目组已经有将近10名成员。已经有一些项目方向的议案。现在，项目组的正
: 在讨论确定一个简单可行的项目方案。 我们的项目方案需要：
: 1） 简单可行
: 2） 方向单一
: 3） 门槛低
: 我们要把最大的人力资源聚集在一点上统筹规划。项目组成员都是志愿者。每个人都有
: 自己繁重的工作和生活。所以，我们必须要制定一个最多人感兴趣，门槛低，大家都能
: 做的一件事作为我们下一步的工作重点。
: 现在，项目组向广大NIU捐款人和正在等待递交485的绿卡申请人发出征集项目建议的请
H*i
51 楼
I believe that you guys are right. Hopefully they think in the same way.
【在 j*e 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得在VB日期上加半年/一年作为递交485日期的方案并没有降低VB的重要性，因为还
: 是要看VB，批要看VB，交也要看VB (VB+6 or 12m)，而且有利于奥本准确估计Demand，
: 更准确制定VB，避免浪费。对USCIS，DOS和EB申请者三方都是有利的事。
:
: inter-
: with
【在 j*e 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得在VB日期上加半年/一年作为递交485日期的方案并没有降低VB的重要性，因为还
: 是要看VB，批要看VB，交也要看VB (VB+6 or 12m)，而且有利于奥本准确估计Demand，
: 更准确制定VB，避免浪费。对USCIS，DOS和EB申请者三方都是有利的事。
:
: inter-
: with
j*1
52 楼
现在开始办！
【在 c**s 的大作中提到】
: 讨论几年了，没多少人出来办这事啊。
【在 c**s 的大作中提到】
: 讨论几年了，没多少人出来办这事啊。
N*r
53 楼
另外，有个想法，就是考虑申请人的交税额。EB2/3 每年会给SocialSecurity 和IRS缴
纳很多钱。
是不是可以提出一个门槛， 比如如果申请人累计缴纳税超过15万刀， 他的案子就应该
加快或立刻处理。贡献和待遇相符，也是公平的原则。
纳很多钱。
是不是可以提出一个门槛， 比如如果申请人累计缴纳税超过15万刀， 他的案子就应该
加快或立刻处理。贡献和待遇相符，也是公平的原则。
B*g
54 楼
15w? 俺EB２都快排到了。
【在 N*******r 的大作中提到】
: 另外，有个想法，就是考虑申请人的交税额。EB2/3 每年会给SocialSecurity 和IRS缴
: 纳很多钱。
: 是不是可以提出一个门槛， 比如如果申请人累计缴纳税超过15万刀， 他的案子就应该
: 加快或立刻处理。贡献和待遇相符，也是公平的原则。
【在 N*******r 的大作中提到】
: 另外，有个想法，就是考虑申请人的交税额。EB2/3 每年会给SocialSecurity 和IRS缴
: 纳很多钱。
: 是不是可以提出一个门槛， 比如如果申请人累计缴纳税超过15万刀， 他的案子就应该
: 加快或立刻处理。贡献和待遇相符，也是公平的原则。
a*x
55 楼
先把social security搞公平了再说。
IRS缴
应该
【在 B*****g 的大作中提到】
: 15w? 俺EB２都快排到了。
IRS缴
应该
【在 B*****g 的大作中提到】
: 15w? 俺EB２都快排到了。
N*r
56 楼
俺是说的比如， 10万刀也可。关键是要突出Eb2/3 的巨大的直接贡献，和不公平的待
遇。
我敢说EB1的人均交税未必 有Eb2/3多， 我们可是有Prevailing Salary卡着的。
EB1 一堆Post Doc。产生一堆有用没用的Papers， 相互Review些似懂非懂的东西。有
多少是会最后成为生产力和社会财富的？
遇。
我敢说EB1的人均交税未必 有Eb2/3多， 我们可是有Prevailing Salary卡着的。
EB1 一堆Post Doc。产生一堆有用没用的Papers， 相互Review些似懂非懂的东西。有
多少是会最后成为生产力和社会财富的？
c*1
57 楼
support
H*i
58 楼
I like this idea very much. But I was wondering whether it involves
legislative process, once it get into the Capital Hill, it's going to take
forever.
【在 N*******r 的大作中提到】
: 另外，有个想法，就是考虑申请人的交税额。EB2/3 每年会给SocialSecurity 和IRS缴
: 纳很多钱。
: 是不是可以提出一个门槛， 比如如果申请人累计缴纳税超过15万刀， 他的案子就应该
: 加快或立刻处理。贡献和待遇相符，也是公平的原则。
legislative process, once it get into the Capital Hill, it's going to take
forever.
【在 N*******r 的大作中提到】
: 另外，有个想法，就是考虑申请人的交税额。EB2/3 每年会给SocialSecurity 和IRS缴
: 纳很多钱。
: 是不是可以提出一个门槛， 比如如果申请人累计缴纳税超过15万刀， 他的案子就应该
: 加快或立刻处理。贡献和待遇相符，也是公平的原则。
y*r
59 楼
我觉得至少可以添加在诉求书中作为eb23类巨大贡献的一个有力证据
【在 H******i 的大作中提到】
: I like this idea very much. But I was wondering whether it involves
: legislative process, once it get into the Capital Hill, it's going to take
: forever.
【在 H******i 的大作中提到】
: I like this idea very much. But I was wondering whether it involves
: legislative process, once it get into the Capital Hill, it's going to take
: forever.
B*i
60 楼
完全同意这个提议，还可以联合老印，和row 的eb3 一起发出声音。同时可以平衡
workload 和 CIS 的revenue。
【在 j*e 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得在VB日期上加半年/一年作为递交485日期的方案并没有降低VB的重要性，因为还
: 是要看VB，批要看VB，交也要看VB (VB+6 or 12m)，而且有利于奥本准确估计Demand，
: 更准确制定VB，避免浪费。对USCIS，DOS和EB申请者三方都是有利的事。
:
: inter-
: with
workload 和 CIS 的revenue。
【在 j*e 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得在VB日期上加半年/一年作为递交485日期的方案并没有降低VB的重要性，因为还
: 是要看VB，批要看VB，交也要看VB (VB+6 or 12m)，而且有利于奥本准确估计Demand，
: 更准确制定VB，避免浪费。对USCIS，DOS和EB申请者三方都是有利的事。
:
: inter-
: with
H*i
61 楼
Yes, we can raise 3 to 4 requests, if USCIS accepts even one of them, it's a
big victory.
【在 y**********r 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得至少可以添加在诉求书中作为eb23类巨大贡献的一个有力证据
big victory.
【在 y**********r 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得至少可以添加在诉求书中作为eb23类巨大贡献的一个有力证据
N*r
62 楼
底线说白了就是，在1-140 批准后（一定时间后），应当允许（用EDA)转换 （同类型
）的工作。
这样至少可以解除，一旦从一个公司被迫去职后，就一切前功尽弃的窘境。
否则，他要是10年不批,我就必须10年在同一家公司，同一个岗位上干10年？一旦去职
，就什么也没有。而且要拖家带口的一起经受这些风险和潜在损失。
这个还有人权吗？对社会有利吗？这个还有人道和公平吗？更本没有逻辑。
而且，以种族为基础的移民政策，本身就是和这个社会的基本道德原则相抵触的。
目前的EB3 基本就是这个现状。
）的工作。
这样至少可以解除，一旦从一个公司被迫去职后，就一切前功尽弃的窘境。
否则，他要是10年不批,我就必须10年在同一家公司，同一个岗位上干10年？一旦去职
，就什么也没有。而且要拖家带口的一起经受这些风险和潜在损失。
这个还有人权吗？对社会有利吗？这个还有人道和公平吗？更本没有逻辑。
而且，以种族为基础的移民政策，本身就是和这个社会的基本道德原则相抵触的。
目前的EB3 基本就是这个现状。
p*7
63 楼
The posts in the discussion give the strong suppport to our action!
I can't agree any more.Very smart
USCIS released a new policy on Aug.2, 2011
USCIS Initiatives to Promote Startup Enterprises and Spur Job Creation
But this new rule does not work for H-1B visa holder. It does not allow H-
1B visa holder to be self-employed in company if there is no board directors
in small company. EAD will give us a big opportunity to run business.
Tell USCIS if H-1B visa holders with I-140 approval could have EAD, some of
us will open companies, which will create more jobs for American workers and
increase more tax payment. USCIS may be happy to see this.
For those people who are not interested in self-business, they can keep full
-time H-1B visa, easily find a part-time job without lots of cost.
底线说白了就是，在1-140 批准后（一定时间后），应当允许（用EDA)转换 （同类型
）的工作。
这样至少可以解除，一旦从一个公司被迫去职后，就一切前功尽弃的窘境。
否则，他要是10年不批,我就必须10年在同一家公司，同一个岗位上干10年？一旦去职
，就什么也没有。而且要拖家带口的一起经受这些风险和潜在损失。
这个还有人权吗？对社会有利吗？这个还有人道和公平吗？更本没有逻辑。
而且，以种族为基础的移民政策，本身就是和这个社会的基本道德原则相抵触的。
目前的EB3 基本就是这个现状。
I can't agree any more.Very smart
USCIS released a new policy on Aug.2, 2011
USCIS Initiatives to Promote Startup Enterprises and Spur Job Creation
But this new rule does not work for H-1B visa holder. It does not allow H-
1B visa holder to be self-employed in company if there is no board directors
in small company. EAD will give us a big opportunity to run business.
Tell USCIS if H-1B visa holders with I-140 approval could have EAD, some of
us will open companies, which will create more jobs for American workers and
increase more tax payment. USCIS may be happy to see this.
For those people who are not interested in self-business, they can keep full
-time H-1B visa, easily find a part-time job without lots of cost.
底线说白了就是，在1-140 批准后（一定时间后），应当允许（用EDA)转换 （同类型
）的工作。
这样至少可以解除，一旦从一个公司被迫去职后，就一切前功尽弃的窘境。
否则，他要是10年不批,我就必须10年在同一家公司，同一个岗位上干10年？一旦去职
，就什么也没有。而且要拖家带口的一起经受这些风险和潜在损失。
这个还有人权吗？对社会有利吗？这个还有人道和公平吗？更本没有逻辑。
而且，以种族为基础的移民政策，本身就是和这个社会的基本道德原则相抵触的。
目前的EB3 基本就是这个现状。
a*d
64 楼
这个和当初提出的那个提前递交485的项目初衷大相径庭了，不过能有进步就好。
关键是能达到一定程度的共识和妥协，项目才能有进展。
【在 j********1 的大作中提到】
: 现在开始办！
关键是能达到一定程度的共识和妥协，项目才能有进展。
【在 j********1 的大作中提到】
: 现在开始办！
H*i
65 楼
需要和IV联合起来做大声势
c*1
66 楼
Ding! What's the status?
R*n
67 楼
For advance I485 submission, especially advance EAD /AP submission
Donations Coordinator:
New Immigrants United
d******[email protected]
Confirmation Number: 28E99378B50426812
Donations Coordinator:
New Immigrants United
d******[email protected]
Confirmation Number: 28E99378B50426812
w*7
68 楼
今天下午项目小组召开电话会议商讨具体实施方案，要了解最新动态请访问NIU中文网
。另外，请对志愿者工作有一点耐心，现在没有人是全职为NIU工作的。
【在 c*****1 的大作中提到】
: Ding! What's the status?
。另外，请对志愿者工作有一点耐心，现在没有人是全职为NIU工作的。
【在 c*****1 的大作中提到】
: Ding! What's the status?
w*7
69 楼
感谢您的支持！我们会努力的。
【在 R*********n 的大作中提到】
: For advance I485 submission, especially advance EAD /AP submission
:
: Donations Coordinator:
: New Immigrants United
: d******[email protected]
: Confirmation Number: 28E99378B50426812
【在 R*********n 的大作中提到】
: For advance I485 submission, especially advance EAD /AP submission
:
: Donations Coordinator:
: New Immigrants United
: d******[email protected]
: Confirmation Number: 28E99378B50426812
R*n
70 楼
对了, 那个PHD直接拿绿卡的法案可不可以推动一下,可以解决好多名额问题.
【在 N*********L 的大作中提到】
: NIU的提前递交485倡议项目组已经如火如荼的展开工作了。我们很高兴的向大家汇报一
: 下，目前项目组已经有将近10名成员。已经有一些项目方向的议案。现在，项目组的正
: 在讨论确定一个简单可行的项目方案。 我们的项目方案需要：
: 1） 简单可行
: 2） 方向单一
: 3） 门槛低
: 我们要把最大的人力资源聚集在一点上统筹规划。项目组成员都是志愿者。每个人都有
: 自己繁重的工作和生活。所以，我们必须要制定一个最多人感兴趣，门槛低，大家都能
: 做的一件事作为我们下一步的工作重点。
: 现在，项目组向广大NIU捐款人和正在等待递交485的绿卡申请人发出征集项目建议的请
【在 N*********L 的大作中提到】
: NIU的提前递交485倡议项目组已经如火如荼的展开工作了。我们很高兴的向大家汇报一
: 下，目前项目组已经有将近10名成员。已经有一些项目方向的议案。现在，项目组的正
: 在讨论确定一个简单可行的项目方案。 我们的项目方案需要：
: 1） 简单可行
: 2） 方向单一
: 3） 门槛低
: 我们要把最大的人力资源聚集在一点上统筹规划。项目组成员都是志愿者。每个人都有
: 自己繁重的工作和生活。所以，我们必须要制定一个最多人感兴趣，门槛低，大家都能
: 做的一件事作为我们下一步的工作重点。
: 现在，项目组向广大NIU捐款人和正在等待递交485的绿卡申请人发出征集项目建议的请
w*7
71 楼
谢谢建议。这个现在有议员推动，NIU能做的也只能是鼓动大家给更多的议员写信倡议。
【在 R*********n 的大作中提到】
: 对了, 那个PHD直接拿绿卡的法案可不可以推动一下,可以解决好多名额问题.
【在 R*********n 的大作中提到】
: 对了, 那个PHD直接拿绿卡的法案可不可以推动一下,可以解决好多名额问题.
d*p
72 楼
只交485，不能得ead/ap，对大部分人来说都是无意义的，难不成那么多年都等了，还
怕current以后几个月不能等？
另外就是，如果不能在485同时提交ead/ap申请，那么ead/ap对ebers就完全无用了，那
么485申请费就应该减少为单纯的485申请费，而不是485/ead/ap一起的费用。你让
uscis减少申请费用，那比杀了他们还难:)
怕current以后几个月不能等？
另外就是，如果不能在485同时提交ead/ap申请，那么ead/ap对ebers就完全无用了，那
么485申请费就应该减少为单纯的485申请费，而不是485/ead/ap一起的费用。你让
uscis减少申请费用，那比杀了他们还难:)
N*r
73 楼
交了485，自然就可以申请EAD/AP。
为什么不能哪？
为什么不能哪？
d*p
74 楼
我是回复的前面有人提议只提前提交485而不要ead/ap,说这样比较容易被uscis接受
d*p
75 楼
你一年100k,缴税不会超过30k，甚至更少，除非你任何deduction都不claim......
5年的话，基本上也要排到了
另外，其实很多eb2/3根本达不到100k,有些50k都没有......
【在 N*******r 的大作中提到】
: 另外，有个想法，就是考虑申请人的交税额。EB2/3 每年会给SocialSecurity 和IRS缴
: 纳很多钱。
: 是不是可以提出一个门槛， 比如如果申请人累计缴纳税超过15万刀， 他的案子就应该
: 加快或立刻处理。贡献和待遇相符，也是公平的原则。
5年的话，基本上也要排到了
另外，其实很多eb2/3根本达不到100k,有些50k都没有......
【在 N*******r 的大作中提到】
: 另外，有个想法，就是考虑申请人的交税额。EB2/3 每年会给SocialSecurity 和IRS缴
: 纳很多钱。
: 是不是可以提出一个门槛， 比如如果申请人累计缴纳税超过15万刀， 他的案子就应该
: 加快或立刻处理。贡献和待遇相符，也是公平的原则。
c*s
76 楼
关键说那么多，争那么多，现在也没见任何行动。
c*s
77 楼
我个人项目的议员信，也没见NIU鼓励和支持，倒是争论的时候那个给力啊。
议。
【在 w***7 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢建议。这个现在有议员推动，NIU能做的也只能是鼓动大家给更多的议员写信倡议。
议。
【在 w***7 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢建议。这个现在有议员推动，NIU能做的也只能是鼓动大家给更多的议员写信倡议。
R*n
78 楼
那NIU还是什么都不能做了.
还是好好看看飞猪的信吧.
【在 c**s 的大作中提到】
: 我个人项目的议员信，也没见NIU鼓励和支持，倒是争论的时候那个给力啊。
:
: 议。
还是好好看看飞猪的信吧.
【在 c**s 的大作中提到】
: 我个人项目的议员信，也没见NIU鼓励和支持，倒是争论的时候那个给力啊。
:
: 议。
c*s
79 楼
NIU怎么不能做，组织在行动上才大有可为。问题是还是没人做, 建议都提N年了，争来论去，实质的行动在哪里啊。
光看我的信，评我的信这哪不好，也没用。不好，不完美，自己改改，发出去那叫行动，其他有什么好争的，名义语法句式？
【在 R*********n 的大作中提到】
: 那NIU还是什么都不能做了.
: 还是好好看看飞猪的信吧.
光看我的信，评我的信这哪不好，也没用。不好，不完美，自己改改，发出去那叫行动，其他有什么好争的，名义语法句式？
【在 R*********n 的大作中提到】
: 那NIU还是什么都不能做了.
: 还是好好看看飞猪的信吧.
R*n
80 楼
那能不能多准备点模板啥的,
这样大家写信更有效.
议。
【在 w***7 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢建议。这个现在有议员推动，NIU能做的也只能是鼓动大家给更多的议员写信倡议。
这样大家写信更有效.
议。
【在 w***7 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢建议。这个现在有议员推动，NIU能做的也只能是鼓动大家给更多的议员写信倡议。
c*s
81 楼
是啊，有时间弄点信，走走老套路也好。新NIU喊了有快半年了吧，相信新领导有高招
，才有资本否定过去的套路，别什么都没有，老让大家等在哪。
【在 R*********n 的大作中提到】
: 那能不能多准备点模板啥的,
: 这样大家写信更有效.
:
: 议。
，才有资本否定过去的套路，别什么都没有，老让大家等在哪。
【在 R*********n 的大作中提到】
: 那能不能多准备点模板啥的,
: 这样大家写信更有效.
:
: 议。
R*n
82 楼
刚才认真的考古了飞猪的信.挺好的, 技术性活,头大啊.
我觉得咱们老中能不能团结起来, 强调一下高学历,高技术对美国经济的贡献. 别真的
搞得连当年的黑奴都不如了. DREAM ACT 都要成功一半了. 那我们反其道而行之.
可惜我们都是一帮没有祖国概念的了,不然热血愤青,来一番至上至下而治国之理论.
现在看来交485和拿EAD和AP是关键, 别的都是浮云, 继续考古中...
【在 c**s 的大作中提到】
: 是啊，有时间弄点信，走走老套路也好。新NIU喊了有快半年了吧，相信新领导有高招
: ，才有资本否定过去的套路，别什么都没有，老让大家等在哪。
我觉得咱们老中能不能团结起来, 强调一下高学历,高技术对美国经济的贡献. 别真的
搞得连当年的黑奴都不如了. DREAM ACT 都要成功一半了. 那我们反其道而行之.
可惜我们都是一帮没有祖国概念的了,不然热血愤青,来一番至上至下而治国之理论.
现在看来交485和拿EAD和AP是关键, 别的都是浮云, 继续考古中...
【在 c**s 的大作中提到】
: 是啊，有时间弄点信，走走老套路也好。新NIU喊了有快半年了吧，相信新领导有高招
: ，才有资本否定过去的套路，别什么都没有，老让大家等在哪。
c*s
83 楼
说实话，３个月前，如果忙活忙活提早递交４８５的行动还有希望，因为当时乐观剩余
名额，包括O本自己都很乐观，那个时候推一把，越过大潮大步向前跳，到１０月再倒
退回来，希望还是很大的，毕竟过去这么O本整过。
到现在太迟了点，不过也没关系，是积极努力都应该提倡，问题是别老原地争论不休，
建议意见一堆，具体行动没人了。
还有现在提剩余名额分配，我感觉也是TIMING很有问题，剩余名额今年都马上分光了，
谁理你啊现在，不过还是老话，只要是行动，都应该支持。
总之纯个人意见 。
【在 R*********n 的大作中提到】
: 刚才认真的考古了飞猪的信.挺好的, 技术性活,头大啊.
: 我觉得咱们老中能不能团结起来, 强调一下高学历,高技术对美国经济的贡献. 别真的
: 搞得连当年的黑奴都不如了. DREAM ACT 都要成功一半了. 那我们反其道而行之.
: 可惜我们都是一帮没有祖国概念的了,不然热血愤青,来一番至上至下而治国之理论.
: 现在看来交485和拿EAD和AP是关键, 别的都是浮云, 继续考古中...
名额，包括O本自己都很乐观，那个时候推一把，越过大潮大步向前跳，到１０月再倒
退回来，希望还是很大的，毕竟过去这么O本整过。
到现在太迟了点，不过也没关系，是积极努力都应该提倡，问题是别老原地争论不休，
建议意见一堆，具体行动没人了。
还有现在提剩余名额分配，我感觉也是TIMING很有问题，剩余名额今年都马上分光了，
谁理你啊现在，不过还是老话，只要是行动，都应该支持。
总之纯个人意见 。
【在 R*********n 的大作中提到】
: 刚才认真的考古了飞猪的信.挺好的, 技术性活,头大啊.
: 我觉得咱们老中能不能团结起来, 强调一下高学历,高技术对美国经济的贡献. 别真的
: 搞得连当年的黑奴都不如了. DREAM ACT 都要成功一半了. 那我们反其道而行之.
: 可惜我们都是一帮没有祖国概念的了,不然热血愤青,来一番至上至下而治国之理论.
: 现在看来交485和拿EAD和AP是关键, 别的都是浮云, 继续考古中...
p*7
84 楼
Let's focus on advancing 485 and EDA this time. This is more important for
most of people. By the way I think it is a dream act that never comes true.
【在 R*********n 的大作中提到】
: 对了, 那个PHD直接拿绿卡的法案可不可以推动一下,可以解决好多名额问题.
most of people. By the way I think it is a dream act that never comes true.
【在 R*********n 的大作中提到】
: 对了, 那个PHD直接拿绿卡的法案可不可以推动一下,可以解决好多名额问题.
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