请问Perm打广告一般都用什么理由删选applicant？# EB23 - 劳工卡
e*e
1 楼
今天晚上打算做个jane mm的那个5分钟面包，不过看到说是隔夜发酵12个小时。今天晚
上做明早要上班这样就要在冰箱里放上个20小时，不知道发酵时间太长会不会对做成面
包有影响啊？
上做明早要上班这样就要在冰箱里放上个20小时，不知道发酵时间太长会不会对做成面
包有影响啊？
G*o
2 楼
是不是只能靠minimum requirement来删选？如果有符合最低要求的申请人该怎么办呢
？是不是要让老板面试？面试的时候该让老板记录哪些拒掉applicant的理由呢？如果
这样的申请人太多的话是不是就干脆撤了广告重新打？
？是不是要让老板面试？面试的时候该让老板记录哪些拒掉applicant的理由呢？如果
这样的申请人太多的话是不是就干脆撤了广告重新打？
p*e
3 楼
放5天都可以
【在 e********e 的大作中提到】
: 今天晚上打算做个jane mm的那个5分钟面包，不过看到说是隔夜发酵12个小时。今天晚
: 上做明早要上班这样就要在冰箱里放上个20小时，不知道发酵时间太长会不会对做成面
: 包有影响啊？
【在 e********e 的大作中提到】
: 今天晚上打算做个jane mm的那个5分钟面包，不过看到说是隔夜发酵12个小时。今天晚
: 上做明早要上班这样就要在冰箱里放上个20小时，不知道发酵时间太长会不会对做成面
: 包有影响啊？
f*z
4 楼
如果有合适的申请人, 撤了重打要等90天以后.
【在 G*********o 的大作中提到】
: 是不是只能靠minimum requirement来删选？如果有符合最低要求的申请人该怎么办呢
: ？是不是要让老板面试？面试的时候该让老板记录哪些拒掉applicant的理由呢？如果
: 这样的申请人太多的话是不是就干脆撤了广告重新打？
【在 G*********o 的大作中提到】
: 是不是只能靠minimum requirement来删选？如果有符合最低要求的申请人该怎么办呢
: ？是不是要让老板面试？面试的时候该让老板记录哪些拒掉applicant的理由呢？如果
: 这样的申请人太多的话是不是就干脆撤了广告重新打？
e*e
5 楼
哈哈，太好了，谢谢mm：）
【在 p*****e 的大作中提到】
: 放5天都可以
【在 p*****e 的大作中提到】
: 放5天都可以
n*s
6 楼
First, don't put email address in the job ad. Ask them to mail application (
resume, cover letter, three references letters, etc) to your company. It
will cut down huge number of applications (those recruiters, auto-emails).
Second, don't make it too obvious that this job is for PERM. Someone
American may purposely sabotage it: alter his/her resume and list everything
in your job ad in his resume.
To eliminate them, your boss needs to interview them (phone is enough); ask
questions and write down their answers. If a person cannot answer 6 out of
10 questions correctly. Reject with provide false information in resume.
Don't just "如果有合适的申请人, 撤了重打要等90天以后." What if you have the
second "如果有合适的申请人, 撤了重打要等90天以后." and third ...
Do the interview. It may take your boss time but it will work. Sometime,
applicant will reject your company's offer.
resume, cover letter, three references letters, etc) to your company. It
will cut down huge number of applications (those recruiters, auto-emails).
Second, don't make it too obvious that this job is for PERM. Someone
American may purposely sabotage it: alter his/her resume and list everything
in your job ad in his resume.
To eliminate them, your boss needs to interview them (phone is enough); ask
questions and write down their answers. If a person cannot answer 6 out of
10 questions correctly. Reject with provide false information in resume.
Don't just "如果有合适的申请人, 撤了重打要等90天以后." What if you have the
second "如果有合适的申请人, 撤了重打要等90天以后." and third ...
Do the interview. It may take your boss time but it will work. Sometime,
applicant will reject your company's offer.
p*e
7 楼
不客气:)
【在 e********e 的大作中提到】
: 哈哈，太好了，谢谢mm：）
【在 e********e 的大作中提到】
: 哈哈，太好了，谢谢mm：）
G*o
8 楼
谢谢啦，能不能展开说说什么样的广告obviously像perm广告？是不是尽量不要量身定
做？有没有什么key point需要避免的？另外，让老板interview的时候是问technical
问题吗？
(
everything
ask
the
【在 n***s 的大作中提到】
: First, don't put email address in the job ad. Ask them to mail application (
: resume, cover letter, three references letters, etc) to your company. It
: will cut down huge number of applications (those recruiters, auto-emails).
: Second, don't make it too obvious that this job is for PERM. Someone
: American may purposely sabotage it: alter his/her resume and list everything
: in your job ad in his resume.
: To eliminate them, your boss needs to interview them (phone is enough); ask
: questions and write down their answers. If a person cannot answer 6 out of
: 10 questions correctly. Reject with provide false information in resume.
: Don't just "如果有合适的申请人, 撤了重打要等90天以后." What if you have the
做？有没有什么key point需要避免的？另外，让老板interview的时候是问technical
问题吗？
(
everything
ask
the
【在 n***s 的大作中提到】
: First, don't put email address in the job ad. Ask them to mail application (
: resume, cover letter, three references letters, etc) to your company. It
: will cut down huge number of applications (those recruiters, auto-emails).
: Second, don't make it too obvious that this job is for PERM. Someone
: American may purposely sabotage it: alter his/her resume and list everything
: in your job ad in his resume.
: To eliminate them, your boss needs to interview them (phone is enough); ask
: questions and write down their answers. If a person cannot answer 6 out of
: 10 questions correctly. Reject with provide false information in resume.
: Don't just "如果有合适的申请人, 撤了重打要等90天以后." What if you have the
n*s
9 楼
定: 做？有没有什么key point需要避免的？
Like MS + 6 months experience; experience earned during masters study is
acceptable; MS in XX or equivalent foreign degree; etc.
A friend of mine got a phone interview with a company. The interviewer was a
Chinese too. Later he got the reject letter. He couldn't understand why the
person rejected him. He said the interview went really well. He answered
all questions right. So the recruiter obtained the reason from the person
who did the interview. It showed that he did very bad in the interview as he
answered this and that wrong. He was angry because that was not true. I
then asked him to show me the job ad. I looked at the ad and it was just
like a PERM job ad. Then we searched the person's background, guess what. He
joined the company a little over a year ago and his background matches the
job ad.
When I explain to my friend that he might just applied for someone's PERM
application. It made sense to him. No matter what, he cannot be qualified.
He didn't want to ruin the guy's PERM so he just moved on.
Hope you company allows you do the interview;-)
Yes. if it's a tech position.
【在 G*********o 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢啦，能不能展开说说什么样的广告obviously像perm广告？是不是尽量不要量身定
: 做？有没有什么key point需要避免的？另外，让老板interview的时候是问technical
: 问题吗？
:
: (
: everything
: ask
: the
G*o
10 楼
这样也行的啊，还能自己做interview？估计我们公司不行吧。。。还是让老板去做
interview算了，但是我能提供一些问题让老板问applicant么？
a
the
he
【在 n***s 的大作中提到】
:
: 定: 做？有没有什么key point需要避免的？
: Like MS + 6 months experience; experience earned during masters study is
: acceptable; MS in XX or equivalent foreign degree; etc.
: A friend of mine got a phone interview with a company. The interviewer was a
: Chinese too. Later he got the reject letter. He couldn't understand why the
: person rejected him. He said the interview went really well. He answered
: all questions right. So the recruiter obtained the reason from the person
: who did the interview. It showed that he did very bad in the interview as he
: answered this and that wrong. He was angry because that was not true. I
interview算了，但是我能提供一些问题让老板问applicant么？
a
the
he
【在 n***s 的大作中提到】
:
: 定: 做？有没有什么key point需要避免的？
: Like MS + 6 months experience; experience earned during masters study is
: acceptable; MS in XX or equivalent foreign degree; etc.
: A friend of mine got a phone interview with a company. The interviewer was a
: Chinese too. Later he got the reject letter. He couldn't understand why the
: person rejected him. He said the interview went really well. He answered
: all questions right. So the recruiter obtained the reason from the person
: who did the interview. It showed that he did very bad in the interview as he
: answered this and that wrong. He was angry because that was not true. I
n*s
11 楼
Of course. Do whatever you can to influence it. It's your thing. Just don't
write it in the report;-)
【在 G*********o 的大作中提到】
: 这样也行的啊，还能自己做interview？估计我们公司不行吧。。。还是让老板去做
: interview算了，但是我能提供一些问题让老板问applicant么？
:
: a
: the
: he
write it in the report;-)
【在 G*********o 的大作中提到】
: 这样也行的啊，还能自己做interview？估计我们公司不行吧。。。还是让老板去做
: interview算了，但是我能提供一些问题让老板问applicant么？
:
: a
: the
: he
n*s
12 楼
If you ask privately, I am sure some here did interview themselves. My
company is very formal. I just know two candidates other than me met the
requirements. My boss did interviews and rejected them. I know one was not a
citizen/GC holder. The other I believe put some false info in his resume or
something like that.
Anyway, it's an unknown until you open up the 'box'. but you'll have to go
through it.
company is very formal. I just know two candidates other than me met the
requirements. My boss did interviews and rejected them. I know one was not a
citizen/GC holder. The other I believe put some false info in his resume or
something like that.
Anyway, it's an unknown until you open up the 'box'. but you'll have to go
through it.
c*2
13 楼
It is illegal for the person to be involved in ANY part of the recruitment.
and be an interviewer is so obviously illegal.
a
the
he
【在 n***s 的大作中提到】
: If you ask privately, I am sure some here did interview themselves. My
: company is very formal. I just know two candidates other than me met the
: requirements. My boss did interviews and rejected them. I know one was not a
: citizen/GC holder. The other I believe put some false info in his resume or
: something like that.
: Anyway, it's an unknown until you open up the 'box'. but you'll have to go
: through it.
and be an interviewer is so obviously illegal.
a
the
he
【在 n***s 的大作中提到】
: If you ask privately, I am sure some here did interview themselves. My
: company is very formal. I just know two candidates other than me met the
: requirements. My boss did interviews and rejected them. I know one was not a
: citizen/GC holder. The other I believe put some false info in his resume or
: something like that.
: Anyway, it's an unknown until you open up the 'box'. but you'll have to go
: through it.
n*s
14 楼
If DOL knows then that person's PERM will get denied? But how can DOL know?
His boss can say he did the interview.
.
【在 c**2 的大作中提到】
: It is illegal for the person to be involved in ANY part of the recruitment.
: and be an interviewer is so obviously illegal.
:
: a
: the
: he
His boss can say he did the interview.
.
【在 c**2 的大作中提到】
: It is illegal for the person to be involved in ANY part of the recruitment.
: and be an interviewer is so obviously illegal.
:
: a
: the
: he
c*2
15 楼
If boss is willing to lie (like ICC), no recruitment is needed for PERM.
Just do SWA wage request and posting, then two Sunday newspaper ad, then lie
about the other 3 efforts, ignore all applicants, wait 60 days and then
file online. As long as there is no audit, and no spy or planted anti-PERM
fake applicant, PERM may actually be approved.
Just do SWA wage request and posting, then two Sunday newspaper ad, then lie
about the other 3 efforts, ignore all applicants, wait 60 days and then
file online. As long as there is no audit, and no spy or planted anti-PERM
fake applicant, PERM may actually be approved.
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