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民主党V5！共和党服软，obama给大家今年自动发绿卡，无排期了

民主党V5！共和党服软，obama给大家今年自动发绿卡，无排期了# EB23 - 劳工卡

r*t2013-01-28 08:01

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这次大选，共和党惨败，终于服软了
大家自己看新闻吧
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-immigratio
就摘要一段：
Less-controversial provisions would tighten requirements on employers to
check the immigration status of new workers; increase the number of visas
for high-skilled jobs; provide green cards automatically to people who earn
master's degrees or PhDs in science, technology or math at U.S. universities
; and create an agricultural guest-worker program.
我老研究米国政治10余年
mark my words
CIR今年一定通过
共和党移民问题上输得连内裤都没有了，它是万万不敢出来反对CIR的了
说明一下，这个是senate的，是senate里面gang of eight的那8个核心两党参议院
妥协的结果，虽然不是最后的bill，但是基本精神不会大变，是真正管用，可以通过的。
大家记着去年这里讨论很凶的那个house里面那些共和党小丑们搞出来的那个单独STEM
的HR。共和党其心可诛，故意在这个STEM的HR里下了陷阱，里面加入了和STEM不相干的
要取消diversity visa的内容，明知道加入这个，肯定不可能通过senate，还要出来表
演一下，纯粹浪费时间。共和党真是不见棺材不落泪，要是不是11月大选惨败，现在绝
对不可能在移民问题上妥协。如果共和党早两年中期选举像11月一样大败的话，大家绿
卡都拿到手好几年了。共和党真TMD不是东西
所以，我分析，排期年内有望完全取消，STEM专业自动直接拿绿卡，看来11月大选，共
和党惨败，这下移民改革上要彻底服软了，民主党V5万岁！Obama给大家年内直接发绿
卡！

s*c2013-01-28 08:01

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太虚幻了现在消息一天比一天孟还是淡定点好

s*c2013-01-28 08:01

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借以吉言啊。只是觉得master以上直接拿卡，感觉不太可能。应该还是需要以perm 140
那一套只是没有排气而已。

r*t2013-01-28 08:01

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这就是共和党惨败之后给民主党的妥协啊！
本来合法移民这里，两党都认为应该给绿卡，但是CIR一直通不过，就是因为共和党一
直试图阻挠对非法移民的那部分
现在情况是，共和党11月大选惨败，连参议院都丢了几个席位（和本来预期能拿到的席
位比），共和党只有对移民问题妥协了。合法移民，相对非法移民，毛毛雨，有美国
STEM专业Master，PHD学位的，直接发绿卡，和非法移民的数量比，也是毛毛雨。你放
心，只要共和党大选惨败，妥协CIR，这个STEM直接拿绿卡，不会有任何问题

140

【在 s********c 的大作中提到】

: 借以吉言啊。只是觉得master以上直接拿卡，感觉不太可能。应该还是需要以perm 140
: 那一套只是没有排气而已。

s*92013-01-28 08:01

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呵呵，希望这是真的

【在 r********t 的大作中提到】

: 这就是共和党惨败之后给民主党的妥协啊！
: 本来合法移民这里，两党都认为应该给绿卡，但是CIR一直通不过，就是因为共和党一
: 直试图阻挠对非法移民的那部分
: 现在情况是，共和党11月大选惨败，连参议院都丢了几个席位（和本来预期能拿到的席
: 位比），共和党只有对移民问题妥协了。合法移民，相对非法移民，毛毛雨，有美国
: STEM专业Master，PHD学位的，直接发绿卡，和非法移民的数量比，也是毛毛雨。你放
: 心，只要共和党大选惨败，妥协CIR，这个STEM直接拿绿卡，不会有任何问题
:
: 140

r*d2013-01-28 08:01

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to put it in another way, immi bill for EBers were blocked because demos
wanted turn illegal into citizens first. that is why there werent passed.

l*72013-01-28 08:01

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今天的nyt关于合法的一小段：
In a parallel effort, a separate group of four senators will introduce a
bill this week dealing with another thorny issue that is likely to be
addressed in a comprehensive measure: visas for legal immigrants with
advanced skills in technology and science. The bill, written primarily by
Senator Orrin G. Hatch of Utah, a Republican, and Senator Amy Klobuchar of
Minnesota, a Democrat, would nearly double the number of temporary visas,
known as an H-1B, available each year to highly skilled immigrants. It would
also free up more permanent resident visas, known as green cards, so those
immigrants could eventually settle in the United States and go on to become
citizens.
In a sign of the rapidly changing mood in Washington on immigration, the two
groups of senators and the White House have been vying in recent days to
see who would unveil their proposals first.

l*72013-01-28 08:01

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这段说的挺对了。务实就是好同志；
“First of all, Americans support it, in poll after poll,” said Mr.
Menendez, who was interviewed along with Mr. McCain by Martha Raddatz on
Sunday. “Secondly, Latino voters expect it. Thirdly, Democrats want it. And
fourth, Republicans need it.”

i*t2013-01-28 08:01

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不管怎么样，不停的讨论总比不提这茬的好。

would
those
become

【在 l********7 的大作中提到】

: 今天的nyt关于合法的一小段：
: In a parallel effort, a separate group of four senators will introduce a
: bill this week dealing with another thorny issue that is likely to be
: addressed in a comprehensive measure: visas for legal immigrants with
: advanced skills in technology and science. The bill, written primarily by
: Senator Orrin G. Hatch of Utah, a Republican, and Senator Amy Klobuchar of
: Minnesota, a Democrat, would nearly double the number of temporary visas,
: known as an H-1B, available each year to highly skilled immigrants. It would
: also free up more permanent resident visas, known as green cards, so those
: immigrants could eventually settle in the United States and go on to become

l*72013-01-28 08:01

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还有一小段；
Mr. Rubio was also a sponsor of the bill to offer more visas to highly
educated technology workers, along with Senator Chris Coons, a Democrat from
Delaware. Senator Klobuchar, also a sponsor, said on Sunday that she
expected the bill would become part of the comprehensive measure the other
senators were preparing.

u*r2013-01-28 08:01

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Under the group's proposal, undocumented immigrants would be allowed to
register with the government, pay a fine, and then be given probationary
legal status allowing them to work.
Ultimately, they would have to "go to the end of the line" and apply for
permanent status, according to the document by eight Senators including
Republicans Marco Rubio of Florida, John McCain and Jeff Flake of Arizona
and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, and Democrats Charles Schumer of New
York, Dick Durbin of Illinois, Michael Bennet of Colorado and Robert
Menendez of New Jersey.

【在 r**********d 的大作中提到】

: to put it in another way, immi bill for EBers were blocked because demos
: wanted turn illegal into citizens first. that is why there werent passed.

c*o2013-01-28 08:01

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不要只看眼前，相比1100w我们这些真的微不足道，对未来影响也很有限。