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P*e
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RT
父母探亲签证签过后,允许多长时间范围内入境美国?例如可不可以1月份签过,8月份
再来美国?
是否都是允许在美国逗留三个月?
父母探亲签证是否在有效期内可以多次往返?
谢谢!
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M*t
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我边吃边砸
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m*k
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SNOW NIGHT
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x*2
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Same as question
thanks
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K*n
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CIA研发的脑控武器简史
二战后期德国科学家研制出脑电波接收仪,那时脑电波接收仪用电子管制造,体积庞大
,接收距离只有100米,只能将思维信号转换成声音,即窃听别人的思维,听别人在想
什么。
二战结束后脑电波接收仪的技术被美国获得,美国开始用脑电波接收仪探测在本国的外
国人,找出混入本国的间谍。
上世纪七十年代开发出了仿脑电波无线电攻击功能,即发射让人身体产生痛、痒的信号
,还能发射让人心肌梗塞的信号。
随着技术的发展特别是集成电路的出现,脑控武器有了质的飞跃,脑电波接收仪的体积
越来越小,性能越来越强大,93年出现了能接收人的视觉信号的脑电波扫描仪,每个人
成为了单一频道的电视发射台,眼睛就成了人体摄像机,你看到什么脑电波扫描仪的屏
幕上就能显示什么。
由于开发出的脑电波扫描仪的功能越来越多,特别是能够无声无息地把人干掉,对人类
生存已产生巨大威胁,其威胁绝不亚于核武器,因此在1995年25个拥有脑电波扫描仪的
国家秘密召开了一个国际会议,签署了互不对他国领导人使用脑电波扫描仪的协议。
进入21世纪后,脑电波扫描仪的体积已减小到手机大小,可随身携带,能接收地球上任
何角落的人或动物的脑电波,只是在接收之前必须先采集该人的脑电波指纹并储存(类
似搜索电视频道)。
有了脑电波扫描仪,再向他国派出间谍是非常愚蠢的,因为现在用脑电波扫描仪能轻而
易举地知道谁是间谍,同时获取情报是如此简单,所以21世纪间谍这个危险的职业将消
失,取而代之的是没有危险的特工。
最后说明一下脑电波也是一种电磁波,人脑本身就像一个电视台不断向外发射无线电讯
号,脑电波能被接收机调谐接收,不需要向大脑内植入芯片,接收脑电波就象接收电视
信号一样,能从脑电波中分离出思维信号、视觉神径信号、听觉神径信号,并把它转换
成声音,文字和图象(类似天线接收的电视信号),脑电波扫描仪同时还能将声音和图
像信号传送给被害人的脑神径,让人获得声音和图像,比耳朵听和看高清电视还要清楚
,还能恶意的控制人的各种生理状态。
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i*n
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签证有效期在签证上打印着,自己看去

【在 P*********e 的大作中提到】
: RT
: 父母探亲签证签过后,允许多长时间范围内入境美国?例如可不可以1月份签过,8月份
: 再来美国?
: 是否都是允许在美国逗留三个月?
: 父母探亲签证是否在有效期内可以多次往返?
: 谢谢!

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a*y
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我看那个八一不顺眼

【在 M****t 的大作中提到】
: 我边吃边砸
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C*h
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very nice
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x*2
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For research question in Far, how do we access ASC online to do the
research?
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K*n
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感觉主要是那个天线很难做。
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P*e
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就是还没预约签证的,在算预约时间。
入境美国时间只要在有效期内是否都可以?是否支持多次往返?
谢谢

【在 i*n 的大作中提到】
: 签证有效期在签证上打印着,自己看去
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M*i
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你阿凡提啊

【在 a*****y 的大作中提到】
: 我看那个八一不顺眼
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A*i
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很不错~

【在 m**k 的大作中提到】
: SNOW NIGHT
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K*n
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学术界珍稀有限的原版外文资料,
Remote Mind Control Technology

Reprinted from SECRET AND SUPPRESSED: BANNED IDEAS AND HIDDEN
HISTORY, edited by Jim Keith, $12.95, available from
1-800-680-INET.
There had been an ongoing controversy over health effects of electromagnetic
fields (EMF) for years (e.g., extremely low frequency radiation and the
Navy's Project Seafarer; emissions of high power lines and video display
terminals; radar and other military and industrial sources of radio
frequencies and microwaves, such as plastic sealers and molders.) Less is
known of Department of Defense (DOD) and Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)
interest in anti-personnel applications of the invisible energies. The
ability of certain parameters of EMF to cause health effects, including
neurological and behavioral disturbances, has been part of the military and
CIA arsenal for years.
Capabilities of the energies to cause predictable and exploitable effects or
damages can be gleaned from discussion of health effects from environmental
exposures. Interestingly, some scientists funded by the DOD or CIA to
research and develop invisible electromagnetic weapons have voiced strong
concern (perhaps even superior knowledge or compensatory to guilt) over
potentially serious consequences of environmental exposures.
Eldon Byrd who worked for Naval Surface Weapons, Office of Non-Lethal
Weapons, was commissioned in 1981 to develop electromagnetic devices for
purposes including "riot control,"clandestine operations and hostage removal
. In the context of a
controversy over reproductive hazards to Video Display Terminal (VDT)
operators, he wrote of alterations in brain function of animals exposed to
low intensity fields. Offspring of exposed animals "exhibited a drastic
degradation of ntelligence later in life... couldn't learn easy tasks...
indicating a very definite and irreversible damage to the central nervous
system of the fetus." With VDT operators exposed to weak fields, there
have been clusters of miscarriages and birth defects (with evidence of
central nervous system damage to the fetus). Byrd also wrote of experiments
where behavior of animals was controlled by exposure to weak
electromagnetic fields. "At a certain frequency and
power intensity, they could make the animal purr, lay down and roll over."
Notorious Jose Delgado, advocate of a psycho-civilized society through mind
control, no longer implants electrodes in the brains of mental patients and
prisoners; he now induces profound behavioral changes (hyper-activity,
passivity, etc.) by exposing animals to precisely tuned EMFs. He has also
written of genetic damage produced by weak EMF fields, similar to those
emitted by VDTs. Invariably, brain tissue damage and skeletal deformation
was observed in new born chicks that had been exposed. He was concerned
enough to check emissions from the appliances in his kitchen.
Ross Adey induces calcium efflux in brain tissue with low power level fields
(a basis for the CIA and military's "confusion weaponry") and has done
behavioral experiments with radar modulated at electroencephalogram (EEG)
rhythms. He is understandably concerned about environmental exposures
within 1 to 30 Hz (cycles per second), either as a low frequency or an
amplitude modulation on a microwave or radio frequency, as these can
physiologically interact with the brain even at very low power densities.
Microwaves
Microwave health effects is a juncture where Department of Defense and
environmental concerns collide and part ways.
Security concerns, according to Sam Koslov of Defense Advanced Research
Projects Agency (DARPA), first prompted U.S. study of health effects of low
intensity (or non-thermal) microwaves. At times, up to 70-80% of the
research was funded by the military. From 1965 to 1970, a study dubbed
Project Pandora was undertaken to determine the health and psychological
effects of low intensity microwaves, the so-called "Moscow signal"
registered at the American Embassy in Moscow. Initially, there was confusion
over whether the signal was an attempt to activate bugging devices or for
some other purpose. There was suspicion that the microwave irradiation was
being used as a mind control system. CIA agents asked scientists involved in
microwave research whether microwaves beamed at humans from a distance
could affect the brain and alter behavior. Dr. Milton Zarat who undertook to
analyze Soviet literature on microwaves for the CIA, wrote: "For non-
thermal irradiations, they believe that the electromagnetic field induced by
the microwave environment affects the cell membrane, and this results in an
increase of excitability or an increase in the level of excitation of nerve
cells. With repeated or continued exposure, the increased excitability
leads to a state of exhaustion of the cells of the cerebral cortex."
Employees first learned of the irradiation ten years after Project Pandora
began. Before that, information had been parcelled out on a strict "need to
know" basis, which excluded most employees at the compound. Due to secrecy
, and probably reports like Dr. Zaret's, Jack Anderson speculated that the
CIA was trying to cover up a Soviet effort at behavior modification through
irradiation of the U.S. diplomats, and that the cover up was created to
protect the CIA's own mind control secrets.
Finally, an unusually large number of illnesses were reported among the
residents of the compound. U.S. Ambassador Walter Stoessel developed a rare
blood disease similar to leukemia; he was suffering headaches and bleeding
from the eyes. A source at the State Department informally admitted that
excessive radiation had been leaking from his telephone; an American high
frequency radio transmitter on the roof of the building had,when operating,
induced high frequency signals well above the U.S. safety standard through
the phones in the political section, as
well as in lines to Stoessel's office. No doubt, National Security Agency
or CIA electronic devices also contributed to the electromagnetic
environment at the embassy, although values for these were never released,
as they are secret. Stoessel was reported as telling his staff that the
microwaves could cause
leukemia, skin cancer, cataracts and various forms of emotional illness.
White blood cell counts were estimated to be as high as 40% above normal in
one third of the staff, and serious chromosome damage was uncovered.
The Soviets began research on biological effects of microwaves in 1953. A
special laboratory was set up at the Institute of Hygiene and Occupational
Diseases, Academy of Medical Sciences. Other labs were set up in the U.S.S.
R. and in Eastern Europe that study both effects of microwaves and low
frequency electromagnetic radiation.
Years ago, in the halls of science, complaints could be heard that Soviet
experiments regarding bio-effects couldn't be duplicated due to insufficient
details in their scientific literature, although, according to one DOD
official, 75% of the U.S. papers on the subject carried insufficient
parameters for duplication. Scientists even questioned, with McCarthy like
sentiments, whether the Soviets were attempting to frighten or disinform
with false scientific reporting of bio-effects. It was unthinkable,
according to cruder scientific theory, that non-thermal levels of microwaves
could cause harm. Impetus for a
study of such effects came not from concern for the public, but rather in
the military and intelligence community's suspicion of the Soviets, and
their equally strong interest in developing exploitable anti-personnel
effects - an interest that continues unabated today.
The CIA and DOD "security" concerns metamorphosized into research and
development of invisible weapons capable of impacting on health and
psychological processes. In fact, due to the finding of startling effects,
DARPA's security became even
tighter, and a new code name - "Bizarre" - was assigned to the project.
Military Disinformation
Scientist Allen Frey of Randomline, Inc. was always more interested in low
intensity microwave hazards: thermal effects were known. During Project
Pandora, the Navy funded such projects of his, as how to use low average
power intensities, to:
induce heart seizures; create leaks in the blood brain barriar, which would
allow neurotoxins in the blood to cross and cause neurological damage or
behavioral disorders; and how to produce auditory hallucinations or
microwave hearing, during which the person can hear tones that seem to be
coming from within the head or from directly behind it.
In 1976, the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) released a report in which
they attributed the results of Dr. Frey's studies to the Soviets. According
to Dr. Frey, who acknowledges that his work was misattributed, he had
thought up the projects himself. The DIA, but not the CIA, is allowed to use
"mirror imaging" and
"net assessment" in their reports, ie., respectively, the attribution of one
's own motives and weapons capabilities to "the other side", in this case,
the Soviets. It follows, that there is nothing to prevent them from
releasing a report prepared in this manner, and thus muddy the water of
decision making, pervert public opinion, stoke up congressional funding or
enlist the support of naive scientists to counter "the threat". There was
strong convern over CIA disinformation abroad, leaking back to the home
front, through the American press, but apparently the
DIA, at least on some issues, can dish it up with impunity.
Dr. R.O. Becker, twice nominated for the Nobel prize for his health work in
bio-electromagneticsm, was more explicit in his concern over illicit
government activity. He wrote of "obvious applications in covert operations
designed to drive a target crazy with "voices." The 1976 DIA report also
credits the Soviets with other capabilities, stating, "Sounds and possibly
even words which appear to be originating intercranially can be induced by
signal modulations at very low power densities." Dr. Sharp, a Pandora
researcher at Walter Reed Army Institute of Research, some of whose work was
so secret that he couldn't tell his boss, conducted an experiment in which
the human brain has received a message carried to it by microwave
transmission.
Sharp was able to recognize spoken words that were modulated on a microwave
carrier frequency by an "audiogram", an analog of the words' sound
vibrations, and carried into his head in a chamber where he sat.
Dr. James Lin of Wayne State University has written a book entitled,
Microwave Auditory Effects and Applications. It explores the possible
mechanisms for the phenomenon, and discusses possibilities for the deaf, as
persons with certain
types of hearing loss can still hear pulsed microwaves (as tones or clicks
and buzzes, if words aren't modulated on). Lin mentions the Sharp
experiment and comments, "The capability of communicating directly with
humans by pulsed microwaves is obviously not limited to the field of
therapeutic medicine."
What is frightening is that words, transmitted via low density microwaves or
radio frequencies, or by other covert methods, might be used to create
influence. For instance, according to a 1984 U.S. House of Representatives
report, a large number of stores throughout the country use high frequency
transmitted words (above the range of human hearing) to discourage
shoplifting. Stealing is reported to be reduced by as much as 80% in some
cases. Surely, the CIA and military haven't overlooked such useful
technology.
Dr. Frey also did experiments on reduction of aggression. Rats who were
accustomed to fighting viciously when their tails were pinched, accepted the
pinching with relative passivity when irradiated with pulsed microwaves in
the ultra high frequency rage (UHF) at a power density of less than 1,000
microwatts/cm^2. He has also done low intensity microwave experiments
degrading motor coordination and balance. When asked about weapons
applications of his work, he answered by referring to himself as "just a
biological theorist", and his work for the Navy, "basic medical research."
Lies Before Congress
In 1976, George H. Heilmeier, director of Defense Advances Research Projects
Agency (DARPA) responded to a mailgram to President Ford from Don Johnson
of Oakland, paraphrasing Johnson's concern, and assuring him that the DARPA
sponsored
Army/Navy Pandora experiments were "never directed at the use of microwaves
as a surveillance tool, nor in a weapons concept."
Don Johnson lingered in the memory of one DOD official who sponsored
microwave research in the 1970s. Johnson was enigmatically described as "
brilliant... schizophrenic... he knew too much... a former mental patient...
buildings where work was done." (Scientists who have disagreed with the
DOD on health effects of microwaves and on the U.S. exposure standard, have
received scant more respect and have had their funding cut.)
The next year, Heilmeier elaborated in a written response to an inquiry
before Congress. "...This agency [DARPA] is not aware of any research
projects, classified or unclassified, conducted under the auspices of the
Defense Department, now ongoing, or in the past, which would have probed
possibilities of utilizing microwave radiation in a form of what is
popularly known as 'mind
control.' We do not foresee the development, by DARPA of weapons using
microwaves and actively being directed toward altering nervous system
function or behavior. Neither are we aware of any of our own forces...
developing such weapons..."

Lies Exposed
Finally, memoranda were released that rendered the goals of Pandora
transparent. Richard Cesaro, initiator of Pandora and director of DARPA's
Advanced Sensor program, justified the project in that "little or no work
has been done in investigation of the subtle behavioral changes which may be
evolved by a low-level electromagnetic field." Researchers had long ago
established that direct stimulus of the brain could alter behavior. The
question raised by radio frequencies - microwaves or radio frequencies of
the UHF or VHF band - was whether the electromagnetic could have a similar
effect at very low levels. Pandora's initial goal: to discover whether a
carefully constructed microwave signal could control the mind. In the
context of long term, low-level effects: Cesaro felt that central
nervous system effects could be important, and urged their study "for
potential weapons applications." After testing a low-level modulated
microwave signal on a chimpanzee, and within approximately a week causing
stark performance decrements and behavioral disorganization. Cesaro wrote,
"the potential of exerting a degree of control on human behavior by low-
level microwaves seems to exist." On the basis of the primate study,
extensive discussions took place and plans were made to extend the studies
to humans.
According to a former DOD security analyst, one such microwave experiment
with human subjects took place at Lorton Prison in the early 1970s. He said
that such research (in a weapons context) has occurred on behavioral
effects of microwaves since 1976. He also asked, "Why are you so concerned
about then? What about now? They can call anyone a terrorist. Who are they
using it on now?"
Behavioral Effects
In June, 1970, a government think tank, Rand Corporation, published a report
by R.J. MacGregor, entitled "A Brief Survey of Literature Relating to
Influence of Low Intensity Microwaves on Nervous Function." After noting
that the U.S. microwave guideline in effect in 1970 for the public, 10,000
microwatts/^2 (now the industrial and military "guideline"), is proscribed
from consideration of the rate that thermal effects are dissipated, the
author, a specialist in modeling neural networks, states that scientific
studies have consistently shown that humans exhibit behavioral disturbances
when subjected to non-thermal levels of
microwaves, well below this level. The symptoms that MacGregor lists for
those humans exposed more or less regularly at work or in the living
environment are insomnia, irritability, loss of memory, fatigue, headache,
tremor, hallucination, autonomic disorders and disturbed sensory funtioning.
He reports that swelling and distention of nerve cells have been produced
at intensities as low as 1,000 microwatts/cm^2 (the current U.S. guideline
for the public).
In a companion Rand paper, June, 1970, entitled "A Direct Mechanism for the
Direct Influence of Microwave Radiation on Neuroelectric Function,"
MacGregor sets forth the idea that the electrical component of microwave
radiation induces transmembrane potentials in nerve cells and thereby
disturbs nervous function and behavior.
Microwaves penetrate and are absorbed more deeply so that they can produce a
direct effect on the central nervous system. With smaller wave lengths the
principal absorption occurs near the body surface and causes peripheral or "
lower" nervous system effects.
Dr. Milton Zaret who analysed neurological effects for the CIA during
Project Pandora (he is now one of the few doctors willing to take the
government on by testifying on behalf of plaintiffs filing claims for
microwave health damage), wrote that, "receptors of the brain are
susceptible and react to extremely low intensities of microwave irradiation
if this is delivered in accordance with appropriate "coding." Coding is
reported to be influenced by the character of the signal so as to be a
function, for example, of the shape and amplitude of the
pulse or waveform.
Remotely Reinforcing Specific Brain Rhythms
Dr. Ross Adey, formerly of the Brain Research Center at University of
Southern California, Los Angeles, now at Loma Linda University Medical
School, Loma Linda, California, was among the first of the Pandora
researchers. His work is more precise in inducing specific behavior, rather
than merely causing disorganization or decrements in performance -that is,
apart from his studies on inducing calcium efflux in brain tissue, which
causes interference with the fucntioning of the brain and is one basis of "
confusion weaponry."
More specifically, Adey's thesis is that if the electroencephalogram (EEG)
has informational significance,one can induce behavioral changes if one
imposes environmental fields that look like EEG. During Adey's career, he
has correlated a wide variety of behavioral states with EEG, including
emotional states (e.g., stress in hostile questioning), increments of
decision making and conditioning, correct versus incorrect performance, etc.
, and he has imposed electromagnetic fields that look like EEG, which has
resulted in altered EEG and behavior.
In published accounts of Adey's work, he has shown that it is possible to
apply low biologic frequencies by using a radio frequency carrier modulated
at specific brain frequencies. He demonstrated that if the biological
modulation on the carrier frequency is close to frequencies in the natural
EEG of the subject, it will reinforce or increase the number of
manifestations of the imposed rhythms, and modulate behavior.
The conditioning paradigm: animals were trained through aversion to produce
specific brain wave rhythms; animals trained in a field with the same rhythm
amplitude modulated on it, differed significantly from control animals in
both accuracy and resistance to extinction (at least 50 days versus 10 in
the
controls). When the fields were used on untrained animals, occurrence of the
applied rhythm increased in the animals' EEG.
Dr. Adey is an accomplished scientist, which leads one to believe the
significance of this experiment goes beyond mere reinforcement of the animal
's brain waves. Did the rhythms that he chose to apply have special
significance with relation to information processing or conditioning? The 4
.5 theta rhythm that he applied was the natural reoccuring frequency that he
had measured in the hippocampus during a phase of avoidance learning.
The hippocampus, as Adey wrote in an earlier paper, "...involves neural
processes connected with consolidation of memory traces. It relates closely
to the need for focusing attention, and the degree to which recapitulation
of past experience is imposed." One might add, to ensure survival.
Does it follow that an EEG modulated carrier frequency can be used to
enhance human avoidance learning? You bet, provided the same careful
procedures are followed with humans as were with animals, the same result
would accrue. Recall again the goals of Pandora - to discover whether a
carefully constructed
electromagnetic signal could direct the mind.
The obvious question becomes, how many and with how much accuracy can
behavioral states or "frames of mind" be intentionally imposed, that is,
apart from the certain technological capability to promote disorganization
and degradation of perception and performance through use of the fields.
In fact, many components of learning or conditioning including affect (i.e.,
"feeling" or emotional states) can be imposed through use of the fields
from a distance. E.g., behavioral arousal, orienting reflex, subliminal
stress (alarm
reaction without realization of the contextual significance),
so-called levels of consciousness, inhibition of cerebral functions, which
would render one more susceptible to suggestion or influence, and so on.
All components necessary to produce behavioral conditioning, including ways
to provide contextual
significance, can be applied from a distance (i.e., without direct brain
contact, as was necessary in older behavior modification experiments.)

Applications
The end of Project Pandora may have signified the end of research into the
cause of effects of the varying frequencies registered at the American
embassy in Moscow - some known to be due to CIA and National Security Agency
equipment, but interest
in microwave and biological frequency weapons did not wane.
Indeed, there are indications of applications. As we have seen, research
that began in response to a security concern, transformed almost overnight
into a search for weapons applications, while cloaked in disinformation
about the Soviets.
What types of weapons? There Are Three Possibilities:
(1) that microwaves, perhaps modulated with low biological frequencies, are
used from a distance to cause performance decrements and disorganization by
interfering with neuro-electric function; or by causing central nervous
system effects, subjective feelings of ill health, or health syndrome
associated with periodic exposures at intensities below 10,000microwatts/cm^
2;
(2) that microwaves are used to create organ specific effects, e.g., tissues
with less blood circulation, like the gall bladder, lens of the eye, etc.,
can compensate less to increased heating; heart disfunctions can be caused;
lesions or necrosis of internal tissues can be induced without a subject
necessarily
feeling heat, and symptoms might manifest later, at certain frequencies,
slight heating or "hot spots" can be created at the center of the head;
there is an ongoing Navy contract to find parameters to disrupt human
metabolic functions;
(3) that they are used in an interdisciplinary approach to remote
conditioning by creating information processing effects, as Dr. Adey's work
shows, or to induce "feeling" or "emotional" elements of cognition, such as
excitatory reactions, subliminal stress, behavioral arousal, enhanced
suggestibility by inhibition
of higher functions, or various other EEG or behavioral effects.
There are strong indications that microwaves have been used to cause the
decrements. There is no question but that the U.S. military and the CIA
know the behavioral or psycho-active significance of applied biological
rhythms and other frequencies, as this was part of the thrust of their work
during Pandora.
Inducing emotion or feelings through use of electromagnetic fields, and then
sychronizing the feelings with words (symbolic of ideas) would be an
effective way to induce preferences or attitude change, because it would
mirror natural thought
processes. The question seems less whether conditioning through use of
covert technology is possible, than whether there has been a policy choice
to use it. If the results of their research are used as part of a system
that can condition behavioral responses from a distance, it is a secret that
they hold close like a baby.
Richard Helms wrote of such a system in the mid-1960s while he was CIA Plans
Director. He spoke of "sophisticated approaches to the 'coding' of
information for transmittal to population targets in the 'battle for the
minds of men'..." and of "an approach integrating biological, social and
physical-mathematical research in attempts... to control behavior." He
found particularly notable, "use of modern information theory, automata
theory, and feedback concepts... for a technology for controlling behavior..
. using information inputs as causative agents." Due to Project Pandora, it
is now known that applied biological (and other) frequencies can also be
used as direct "information inputs" (e.g., of feeling or emotion) and to
reinforce brain rhythms associated with conditioning and information
processing.
One way to get such a signal into a human may be through use of a high
frequency carrier frequency. Results of research into information
processing, unconscious processes, decision making, memory processes and
evoked brain potentials would likely be expolited or integrated in an
interdisciplinary system.
Covert technological influence is not so foreign to the American way of life
as one may think. It was reported in a 1984 U.S. House of Representatives
hearing that high frequency audio transmissions are applied, for instance,
in some department stores to prevent theft (one East Coast department store
chain was reported to have saved $600,000 over a nine-month period), and in
some grocery stores with the result that employee induced cash shortages
significantly decreased and employees are better mannered. In other words,
as Helms wrote of, verbal messages are delivered at frequencies above human
hearing. Technology for
commercial applications is relatively sophisticated (one studio uses a "
layered" approach and 31 channels in preparing tapes; some employ a "dual
coding" approach, integrating scientific knowledge of information processing
modes of the two brain
hemispheres, and others use techniques where a consumer is spoken to as a
three year old child.) There is no U.S. law specifically regulating these
types of transmission (over radio and TV a Federal Communication Commission
"catch all" provision might apply). If industry uses indetectable audio
transmissions to
meet security concerns, it seems that the military and CIA would exploit the
same technology and would have developed much more sophisticated technology
for applications. The public's conception of "subliminals" is naive
compared to capabilities.
It seems reasonable to conclude that to the extent that such an approach
exists to manipulate behavior, "defensive" applications would consist of
applying it wherever a potential threat exists or to counter a threat. For
instance, Central America is an area where those in officialdom keenly feel
the "threat of Soviet domination." If there is technology available that
could conceivably influence Central Americans toward the Soviets, then the U
.S. would use the same kind of technology to "even the score." The same is
true within the U.S.; if covert technological influence might be had against
Americans, the same feared technology would be applied to counter the
threat.
Special security risks might include peace groups, whom are felt to be
threatened by Soviet influence (a big security concern in Western Europe and
in the U.S.), progressives, or any group or individual felt to pose a
challenge to U.S. goals subsumed under the rubric of "national security
interest."
Given the nature and dubious goals of lumbering military inertia, and
circuitous CIA "mirror logic", leads one to the conclusion that "defending"
against possible or actual attempts to manipulate behavior means moving to
the offensive, and perhps, having the "edge" with applications. Possible or
actual threats, according to tenets of military and intelligence craft,
means "the other side" has the technology if the United States does.
Also, it would be too difficult to monitor behavior altering transmissions
and to defend against them. Short of exposing such technology there would
be no way to defend except by having one's own "system" (of behavioral
patterns consisting of a set of signals signifying "yes" and "no," or "good"
feeling and "bad" feeling that can be linked to ideas). Recall that apart
from Project Pandora, the CIA spent decades during MKULTRA and related
projects, devising operational techniques to surreptitiously influence and
affect behavior. Workable invisible weapons are too useful for arms control
talks, and don't readily lend themselves to proofs of use or "verification"
processes.
Additionally, the importance of finding ways to circumvent dissent may have
been one of the most significant lessons of Vietnam.
Over the counter audio aside, the military has studied and considered for
usefulness in a warfare and psychological warfare context a wide range of
biologicals or pharmacological substances. In the memo referred to above,
Helms wrote that the U.S. is five years ahead of the Soviets in
pharmacological agents
producing behavioral effects. Some of these substances would increase
susceptibility to influence if incorporated in the multidisciplinary
approach he wrote of. For difficult subscribers, perhaps in foreign parts,
there are substances that have psychological or psychobiological effects
ranging from
subtle through devastating, and that cause increased susceptibility to
conditioning. Some of these substances are similar to ones which are
recognized by neurotoxicologists or behavioral toxicologists as occupational
hazards; some are variations of substances used experimentally in
laboratories to produce selective damage in certain neuronal tracts.
Many substances needn't be injected or orally ingested, as they may be
inhaled or applied with "skin transferral agents," i.e. chemicals like the
popular industrial solvent, dimethylsulphoxide (DMSO), which can, in fact,
enhance the applied substance's effect. For instance, some compounds cause
damage that produces increased sensitivity to stimulus, distraction (or
flooding of thought associations), and enhance susceptibility to influence.
I.e., a state where automatic parallel information processing, which
usually takes place outside of awareness, and interferes with conscious or
more intentional limited channel processing. While causing acute mental
symptoms wouldn't be the goal in groups,
producing mild distraction, an ego weakened blurring between the sense of "I
" and "you", would enhance some kinds of conditioning and promote
suggestibility; then, perhaps transmitted "thought associations," "the voice
of God", "lucky advice" or whatever, can more easily get through and have
an effect. A side effect of lowered resistance to sub-threshold stimulus
might be that some would become aware of illicit influence (even under
normal circumstances there is a wide variation in sensitivity among
individuals to sub-threshold stimulus; normal individuals whom psychology
terms "reducers" are much more sensitive in this way; actually, most
schizophrenics are extreme reducers,and therefore, much more aware of
stimulus that others aren't cognizant of). Convenient to the agencies
involved in covert influence, is that among primary syptoms of schizophrenia
or mental illness are ideas that one is being influenced by "transmissions"
(e.g. radio frequencies), "voices" or even telepathy; unless complaints
about covert psychological weapons are well organized, they would tend to be
discounted as indicative of mental imbalance.
There are many ways to create temporary or permanent staes that increase
receptivity to suggestion and/or conditioning. It is interesting to note
that scientific studies have correlated exposure to electromagnetic fields
alone with mental hospital admissions and worsening of symptoms of mental
patients, even as
an etiological factor in the onset of mental illness. (A marker disease for
exposure to microwaves is damage behind the lens of the eye; a
disproportionate number of persons so damaged also suffer from mental
disease or neurological impairment.)
The CIA is also interested in neuropeptides; these have profound effects
when administered within a conditioning paradigm.
Specific Targets
Weapons against whom? Safe to say, in order to enlist the aid of scientists
, the military and CIA would act true to form, that is, to motivate and
overcome eluctance due to dictates of conscience, they would evoke a serious
security risk, like the Soviets, during initial phases of development. In
fact, on the "unclassified" face of it, a number of reports have openly
suggested use of "microwaves" against "terrorists".
Los Alamos National Laboratory, now under supervision of University of
California, prepared a report for Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA)
setting forth that use of microwave radiation on terrorists could kill them
, stun them or at least modify their behavior by changing their "perceptions
." At this point the cloak is donned, and the report continues: "There are
reports of Eurasian communist countries performing research with combined
fields of signals from several different microwave frequencies to produce at
least perceptual distortions in humans."
Cable News Network recently aired a report on electromagnetic weapons and
showed an official document that was a contingency plan to use
electromagnetic weapons against terrorists. It wasn't made clear who the
terrorists were or what the contingency was. Prior to the news show,
however, reports had surfaced, the
source a DOD medical engineer, that in the content of conditioning,
microwaves and other modalities had regularly been used against Palestinians.
It makes sense that the Palestinians would be targeted as a group for
experimental purposes and to meet strategic goals. For instance, to
exacerbate discord between political factions, a "bad feeling" (biologically
uncomfortable or threatening) would simply be associated through use of
sound with the idea of the "other" faction. It is an easy psychological
trick to induce negative attribution (where a "bad feeling" is caused to be
misattributed to something in our environment): feeling, followed close in
time with information input will color a thought, and
become a conditioned emotional response (CER) if repeated. An excitatory
autonomic reation requires a cognitive appraisal or "labelling" of the
inducing cause. Both the autonomic reaction and the labelling can be
transmitted from a distance using
electromagnetic fields, like radio frequencies or microwaves and "sound."
Specific frequencies at low intensities can predictably influence sensory
processes. Feeling: pleasantness - unpleasantness, strain - relaxation, and
excitement - quiescence, can be created with the fields. Negative feelings
and avoidance are strong biological phenomena and relate to survival.
Feelings
are the true basis of much "decision-making" and often occur as sub-
threshold impressions. Anger and other negative feelings are easy to cause
to be displaced, and most people believe in the "trueness" of their feelings
. Ideas including names can be synchronized with the the feelings that the
fields can induce.
Greenham Common
Rather than belabor the obvious, for when DOD develops a weapon it can be
said with certainty that it will be tested and, if possible, where it would
be useful to meet their goals; another example will put motives and, at
least, one type of
application in more realistic perspective.
Women peace activists have kept an ongoing vigil at the periphery of the U.S
. Air Force base at Greenham in England since 1981. They are protesting
build-up of nuclear weapons. The U.S. Cruise missiles, which are nuclear
warheads small enough to be mounted on the back of a truck called a launcher
vehicle, arrived
at the base in March, 1984. Since then the women in the encampment and
members of the Cuisewatch network have insured that when the launcher
vehicle and its convoy are taken out into the British countryside, the "
dispersal exercises" aren't as
secret as the military intended them to be. The women of the network, non-
violent activists, have been subjected to intense harassment in an effort to
be rid of their presence.
In the Fall of 1984, things changed dramatically; many, if not most of the
women began suffering illness; and, simultaneously, the massive police and
military presence at the base virtually disappeared, and new and different
antenna were
installed at the base. In a report prepared by Rosalie Bertell, commissioner
for International Commission of Health Professionals for Human Rights, a
non-governmental organization based in Geneva, Switzerland, the unusual
patterns of illness ranged from "severe headaches, drowsiness, menstrual
bleeding at abnormal
times or post-menopausal, to bouts of temporary paralysis, faulty speech
coordination and in one case apparent circulatory failure requiring
hospitalization."
Other symptoms documented by peace activist Kim Bealy, who coordinates
investigations into reports of illness at specific places around the base,
included; vertigo, retinal bleeding, burnt face (even at night), nausea,
sleep disturbances and palpitations. Psychbological symptoms included lack
of
concentration, disorientation, loss of memory, irritability and a sense of
panic in non-panic situations. The symptoms have virtually all been
associated in medical literature with exposure to microwaves and most listed
can be induced through low intensity or non-thermal exposures.
Measurements were taken around the base by members of Electronics for Peace
and by others. Strong signals, up to one hundred times the normal
background level were detected on a number of occasions. In fact, signals
ten times stronger than
hose felt to be emanating from normal base transmitting systems were found.
The strongest signals generally appeared in the areas where the women said
that they suffered ill effects. For instance, they were found to cover the
women's encampment near the "green gate" (gates to the base are designated
by color), but stopped abruptly at the edge of the road leading to the gate.
The strength of the signals were also found to reflect the activity of the
women: e.g., they increased rapidly when the women started a demonstration.
Visitors to the encampment, both men and women, reported experiencing the
same types of symptoms and the same
pattern of variation as the Greenham women. It may be revealing that
British personnel who guard the perimeter of the base work very short shifts
(two hours at a time) and only for two weeks.
What else has been used against the women of Greenham Commons? If high
frequency verbal transmissions are used in U.S. department stores and have a
significant effect in meeting their security goals, it seems likely that
the military would also exploit the same technology. What would such a
message tell the women? "There is something wrong with this place, 'I' want
to get out of here, 'I' don't like it here..." Perhaps auditory
transmissions would be simultaneous with the transmissions that were making
them feel unwell.
In a review prepared by National Bureau of Standards, Law Enforcement
Standards Laboratory, for Nuclear Defense Agency, Intelligence and Security
Directorate, use of low intensity microwaves was considered for application
as a "psychological
deterrent." The report stated, "...microwave radiation has frequently been
cited as being responsible for non-thermal effects in integrated central
nervous system activity. The behavioral consequences most frequently
reported have been
disability, listlessness and increased irritability." The report fails to
mention just as frequently cited low intesity microwave health effects as
chromosome damage; congenital birth defects; autonomic nervous system
disregulation, including disruption of bio-cycles; impaired immune function;
brain damage and other neurological abnormalities, including leaks in the
blood brain barrier and depletion of some neurotransmitters; among a host of
other health impairments not to be taken lightly.
A reckless form of biological and psychological control has been perpetuated
whether the source of the symptoms of the Greenham Commons is radar
surveillance aimed at the women, or if there is conscious application of the
microwaves as a "deterrent" or a means to drive the women away. Calculated
efforts were also
directed at preventing or eroding community support. In the summer of 1985,
women planning to visit the camp had to be notified that long term health
effects might ensue for women who were pregnant or intended to be. As
activist Kim Bealy put it, "It would now appear that we are protecting the
missiles by killing people slowly."
Health complaints similar to those of the women at Greenham Common are being
made by women peace activists at Seneca, New York, and from activists at
other locations. The symptoms at Greenham seem to occur on an occasional
basis now, perhaps due to the Intermediate Range Nuclear Forces (INF) treaty
, which applies to the missiles housed there, or due to somewhat increased
public or congressional awareness.
It is not necessary that the transmission take place from equipment in the
vicinity of a target (although the Greenham women seemed to be suffering
from transmissions made from within the base.) Propagation of microwaves
has been very well studied and is very sophisticated, e.g., a two inch beam
can be sent from
a satellite, point to point, to a receiving dish on earth; and, it was
reported in 1978, that the CIA had a program called Operation Pique, which
included bouncing radio signals or microwaves off of the ionosphere to
affect the mental functions
of people in selected areas, including Eastern European nuclear
installations.
In the U.S. the military has intentionally obfuscated discussion of
environmental health effects. With their ally "industry" they have won, at
least for the time being, the right to perpetuate their interests, to the
detriment of the public's
best interests. Scientists who have spoken up on the environmental impact
of military microwave or electromagnetic systems have been treated as
security risks, and have had their funds cut, so great is the military's
concern in protecting their communications systems by ensuring themselves
unlimited use of radio frequencies or microwaves.
The upshot is that in the U.S. at this time, there is no legally enforceable
microwave standard. There never has been an enforceable standard for the
public or the workplace. Microwaves at intensities within the suggested "
guideline" have finally been shown, even by U.S. research, to cause health
damage.
Worse, some industrial exposures are extraordinarily high. For instance,
plastic sealers, a low income group comprised mainly of women within
childbearing years, use equipment that exposes them to over 10,000
microwatts of microwaves or radio
frequencies throughout an eight hour day, and in some case, to hundreds of
milliwatts. As energy absorbed from their equipment flows to ground, so
much heat has been felt in the ankles of some workers that they have learned
to do their tasks with their feet elevated on plastic. They are not
provided metal shielding as workers are in more health conscious countries.
While most of the public are only exposed to very low levels of microwaves
and radio frequencies, a considerable number (between one and two percent)
live or work near emitters, such as radio and television transmitters,
military and airport radar, and industrial tools utilizing these frequencies
. Therefore, it
is likely that they are exposed to levels that have been proven to be
unhealthful or downright dangerous.
[References for Remote Mind Control Technology]
1. McAuliffe, Kathleen, The Mind Fields, OMNI magazine, Omni Publications,
February, 1985
2. ISN News, Reproductive Hazards From Video Display Terminals, Planetary
Association for Clear Energy, 1985.
3. Adey, W. Ross, Neurophysiologic Effects of Radiofrequency and Microwave
Radiation, Bulletin of the New York Academy of Medicine, V.55, #11, December
, 1979; The Influences of Impressed Electrical Fields at EEG Frequencies on
Brain and Behavior, in Behavior and Brain Electrical Activity, Burch, N. and
Altshuler,
H.I., eds., Plenum Press, 1975; Effects of Modulated Very High Frequency
Fields on Specific Brain Rhythms in Cats, Brain Research, V.58., 1973;
Spectral Analysis of Low Frequency Components in the Electrical Activity of
the Hippocampus During
Learning, Electroencephalography and Clinical Neurophysiology, V.23, 1967.
4. Koslov, Sam, Bridging the Gap, in Nonlinear Electrodynamics in
Biological Systems, Adey, W.R. and Lawrence, A.F., eds., Plenum Press, 1983.
5. Steneck, Nicholas, The Microwave Debate, MIT Press, 1984.
6. Brodeur, Paul, The Zapping of America, W.W. Norton and Co, 1977.
7. Marha, Karel, Microwave Radiation Standards in Eastern Europe, IEEE
Transactions on Microwave Theory and Techniques, V.MTT-19, #2, February,
1971.
8. Zarat, Milton, Human Injury Relatable to Nonionizing Radiation, IREE-
ERDA Symposium - "The Biological Effects of Electromagnetic Radiation," 1978.
9. Annals of New York Academy of Sciences, V. 247, February, 1975.
10. Frey, Allan, Behavioral Biophysics, Psychological Bulletin, V.65, #5,
1965; Human Auditory System Response in Modulated Electromagnetic Energy,
Journal of Applied Physiology, V.17, #4, 1962; Neural Function and Behavior:
Defining to Relationship, Annals of the New York Academy of Sciences, V.247
, February, 1975; Exposure to RF Electromagnetic Energy Decreases Aggressive
Behavior, Biolectromagnetics, V.12, 1986.
11. MacGregor, R.J., A Brief Survey of Literature Relating to Influence of
Low Intensity Microwaves on Nervous Function, Rand Report, R-4397, 1970; A
Direct Mechanism for the Influence of Microwave Radiation on Neuroelectric
Potentials, Rand Corporation, P-4398, 1970.
12. Becker, Robert O., The Body Electric, William Morrow and Company, Inc.
1985.
13. Bowart, Walter, Operation Mind Control, Dell Publishing, 1978.
14. Subliminal Communication Technology, House of Representatives,
Committee on Science and Technology, Subcommittee on Transportation,
Aviation and Materials, 1984.
15. Rosenfeld, Sam and Anne, The Roots of Individuality: Brain Waves and
Perception, Mental Health Studies and Reports Branch, National Institute of
Mental Health, October, 1975.
16. Harvey, J., Ickes, W., Kidd, R., New Directions in Attribution Research
, V.2, John Wiley and Sons, 1978.
17. Regna, Joseph, Microwaves Versus Hope, Science for the People, V.19., #
5, September/October 1987.
18. Bealy, Kim, Electromagnetic Pollution: A Little Known Health Hazard, A
New Means of Control?, Preliminary Report, Greenham Comman Women's Peace
Camp, Inlands House, Southbourne, Emsworth, Hants, P0108JH.
19. Kramer, J. and Maguire, P., Psychological Deterrents in Nuclear Theft,
National Bureau of Standards for Intelligence and Security Directorate,
Defense Nuclear Agency, NBSIR 76-1007, March, 1976.
20. Lapinsky, G. and Goodman, C., Psychological Deterrents to Nuclear Theft
Technology, National Bureau of Standards for Surety and Operations
Directorate, Defense Nuclear Agency, NBSIR 80-2038, June, 1980.
21. World Health Organization, Environmental Health Criteria 16,
Radiofrequency and Microwaves, Geneva, Switzerland, 1981.
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i*n
15

看是不是有M字样

【在 P*********e 的大作中提到】
: 就是还没预约签证的,在算预约时间。
: 入境美国时间只要在有效期内是否都可以?是否支持多次往返?
: 谢谢

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a*y
16
就是不顺眼

【在 M**i 的大作中提到】
: 你阿凡提啊
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A*h
17
like the 2nd and third. how many seconds you had on them?
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f*d
18
"能从脑电波中分离出思维信号"
this is absolutely impossible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
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P*e
19
好的
多谢

【在 i*n 的大作中提到】
: 是
: 看是不是有M字样

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Y*2
20
谁?
我看goldcoins不顺延。

【在 a*****y 的大作中提到】
: 我看那个八一不顺眼
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s*d
21
4525 有点像童话里的小屋感觉,不错
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K*n
22
我不清楚别人怎么思维的,我觉得我自己思维就是自己跟自己说话,语言就是逻辑思维。
那你在心中默默念叨,这个不是什么神奇的灵魂,而是完全可以检测的电信号。更准确
点,是跟植物神经等不在一个频率范畴的音频,或者叠加在一个更高频率的音频载波。
换言之,只要能有好的宽带天线接收到所有你那250瓦小脑袋辐射的电波,CIA基本无恼
分离出你的思维信息:你自己在心底默念的各种奇思怪想。
至于视频、五官感受,估计频率范围不很一样。

【在 f******d 的大作中提到】
: "能从脑电波中分离出思维信号"
: this is absolutely impossible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

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M*i
23
你在说哪里?我电梯了,没懂

【在 a*****y 的大作中提到】
: 就是不顺眼
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p*o
24
nice!
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z*n
25
1. 人脑辐射250瓦?知道250W功率是啥概念么?
2. 你有什么资料/实验结果支持“人脑思维同一事件的时候
发射同一信号脑电波?”

维。

【在 K**********n 的大作中提到】
: 我不清楚别人怎么思维的,我觉得我自己思维就是自己跟自己说话,语言就是逻辑思维。
: 那你在心中默默念叨,这个不是什么神奇的灵魂,而是完全可以检测的电信号。更准确
: 点,是跟植物神经等不在一个频率范畴的音频,或者叠加在一个更高频率的音频载波。
: 换言之,只要能有好的宽带天线接收到所有你那250瓦小脑袋辐射的电波,CIA基本无恼
: 分离出你的思维信息:你自己在心底默念的各种奇思怪想。
: 至于视频、五官感受,估计频率范围不很一样。

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a*y
26
就是他, 我一直想骂他

【在 Y*****2 的大作中提到】
: 谁?
: 我看goldcoins不顺延。

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v*a
27
nice
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K*n
28

钻字眼不好。人脑思考时耗能接近100瓦,不靠发散脑电波自己脑豆腐就得被烤焦了。
别白痴了,玩这种转移话题的把戏。
还是说点正经的,怎么实现天线来接收30hz~30khz脑电波吧。

【在 z*****n 的大作中提到】
: 1. 人脑辐射250瓦?知道250W功率是啥概念么?
: 2. 你有什么资料/实验结果支持“人脑思维同一事件的时候
: 发射同一信号脑电波?”
:
: 维。

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M*i
29
怎么你了

【在 Y*****2 的大作中提到】
: 谁?
: 我看goldcoins不顺延。

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k*l
30
哇,真不错...
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z*n
31
自己挺能打自己脸啊。250转进成100了?
这100瓦又是从哪儿冒出来的?
你要做脑电波方面的研究,连脑子消耗功率多少
都是一团浆糊,“白痴”二字原样奉还。

【在 K**********n 的大作中提到】
:
: 钻字眼不好。人脑思考时耗能接近100瓦,不靠发散脑电波自己脑豆腐就得被烤焦了。
: 别白痴了,玩这种转移话题的把戏。
: 还是说点正经的,怎么实现天线来接收30hz~30khz脑电波吧。

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M*i
32
记得这厮也是蝎子。。在哪儿啊

【在 a*****y 的大作中提到】
: 就是他, 我一直想骂他
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K*n
33
250瓦也就是调戏你一下,连250嘛意思不懂?人脑高度思考时可以到100瓦,不懂站一
边自己插去。
这是专业版,你屁也不懂在这回啥贴?天线设计你懂么?不懂别回帖。

【在 z*****n 的大作中提到】
: 自己挺能打自己脸啊。250转进成100了?
: 这100瓦又是从哪儿冒出来的?
: 你要做脑电波方面的研究,连脑子消耗功率多少
: 都是一团浆糊,“白痴”二字原样奉还。

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a*y
34
fashion 砸版

【在 M**i 的大作中提到】
: 你在说哪里?我电梯了,没懂
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g*u
35
难怪我一上班就头疼脑热,看来是辐射功率太大了。

【在 z*****n 的大作中提到】
: 1. 人脑辐射250瓦?知道250W功率是啥概念么?
: 2. 你有什么资料/实验结果支持“人脑思维同一事件的时候
: 发射同一信号脑电波?”
:
: 维。

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M*i
36
哦。。。围观

【在 a*****y 的大作中提到】
: fashion 砸版
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K*n
37
这很正常吧,算算你一天吞多少卡路里,70%是经大脑烧掉的。
另外,脑波采集和控制是不一样的过程。呵呵,这个版应该有专家,我就不板门弄斧了。

【在 g******u 的大作中提到】
: 难怪我一上班就头疼脑热,看来是辐射功率太大了。
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K*a
38
o,他给我奔过的。中上。

【在 a*****y 的大作中提到】
: 就是他, 我一直想骂他
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c*h
39
我觉得用头盔+接触电极采集脑电波信号还比较靠谱,思维移动鼠标的实验早就有了,
隔100米或更远,无线采集特定某个人的脑电波信号,周围没有旁人还好,假设有旁人
,假设所有人的脑电波都在一个频段,这怎么采集?如果说的是要事先知道脑电波指纹
,类似于CDMA那样的码分多址,那不是要全球所有人的指纹都录进那个系统里(理论上
)?
而且每个人的思维模式应该不一样吧,大脑的思考模式目前绝对还远远未破解。记得当
初看那个思维移动鼠标新闻的时候,都要求测试者专注地思考类似于划一条线这种简单
并且类似鼠标直线移动的事情,电脑才比较容易领会你想做什么。更复杂的思维。。。
。目前的技术应该不可能了吧,这个应该和人工智能是一个意思了吧,让电脑理解你的
复杂思维和指令。
科幻作品中用脑电波直接交流倒是特别常见。
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a*y
40
我也上马甲了

【在 M**i 的大作中提到】
: 哦。。。围观
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d*g
41
100W纯属扯蛋,现在CPU才几瓦就热得不行了。
最新CPU才15瓦和25瓦。
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M*i
42
。。。。你果然人见人爱

【在 K*a 的大作中提到】
: o,他给我奔过的。中上。
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Q*g
43
我在努力和丫头吵一架
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Y*2
44
怎么样,我这个wsn还像吗?

【在 Q****g 的大作中提到】
: 我在努力和丫头吵一架
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Q*g
45
恩,所以很想调息你,你不敢接招啊。

【在 Y*****2 的大作中提到】
: 怎么样,我这个wsn还像吗?
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Y*2
46
我不知道怎么接,我想想。
等这。

【在 Q****g 的大作中提到】
: 恩,所以很想调息你,你不敢接招啊。
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Q*g
47
巴老爷给你看股票了。30万,动心么?

【在 Y*****2 的大作中提到】
: 我不知道怎么接,我想想。
: 等这。

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Y*2
48
我有300万

【在 Q****g 的大作中提到】
: 巴老爷给你看股票了。30万,动心么?
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Q*g
49
你果然是wsn!!

【在 Y*****2 的大作中提到】
: 我有300万
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Y*2
50
笑死噢了!!!
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Y*2
51
哈哈哈。

【在 Q****g 的大作中提到】
: 你果然是wsn!!
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Q*g
52
kao..不带提kua的!

【在 Y*****2 的大作中提到】
: 哈哈哈。
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M*t
53
放心,你名声已经打出去了

【在 Q****g 的大作中提到】
: kao..不带提kua的!
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M*i
54
好乱,我晕了

【在 a*****y 的大作中提到】
: 我也上马甲了
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Y*2
55
我先休息了,你们玩,我一会儿看。
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Q*g
56
不玩了。太乱。
下次我单挑她们

【在 Y*****2 的大作中提到】
: 我先休息了,你们玩,我一会儿看。
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a*y
57
不玩了

【在 M**i 的大作中提到】
: 好乱,我晕了
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M*i
58
:)

【在 a*****y 的大作中提到】
: 不玩了
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M*t
59
都还没人封我啊

【在 Q****g 的大作中提到】
: 不玩了。太乱。
: 下次我单挑她们

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Q*g
60
有我在,谁敢。

【在 M****t 的大作中提到】
: 都还没人封我啊
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d*d
61
hateorlove是你的马甲吗?头像太可爱了

【在 a*****y 的大作中提到】
: 不玩了
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a*y
62
嗯,用过一段,后来不用了

【在 d********d 的大作中提到】
: hateorlove是你的马甲吗?头像太可爱了
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a*y
63
你就吹吧
他不痛不痒的说几句,当然不会封

【在 Q****g 的大作中提到】
: 有我在,谁敢。
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d*d
64
我上了阿

【在 a*****y 的大作中提到】
: 嗯,用过一段,后来不用了
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a*y
65
。。。大家都撤了阿

【在 d********d 的大作中提到】
: 我上了阿
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Q*g
66
你说一段话,我去重复出来。

【在 a*****y 的大作中提到】
: 你就吹吧
: 他不痛不痒的说几句,当然不会封

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M*t
67
靠,你勾搭上女ID了

【在 Q****g 的大作中提到】
: 有我在,谁敢。
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d*d
68
哦,轮班?

【在 a*****y 的大作中提到】
: 。。。大家都撤了阿
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M*i
69
你要上谁啊。。这么有气势

【在 d********d 的大作中提到】
: 我上了阿
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Q*g
70
恩,她掩护。

【在 a*****y 的大作中提到】
: 。。。大家都撤了阿
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M*t
71
我也先吃个饭

【在 a*****y 的大作中提到】
: 。。。大家都撤了阿
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Q*g
72
明天纽约,后天军版。大家准备一下吧。

【在 M****t 的大作中提到】
: 我边吃边砸
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a*y
73
军版我不去

【在 Q****g 的大作中提到】
: 明天纽约,后天军版。大家准备一下吧。
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Y*2
74
纽约好啊!

【在 Q****g 的大作中提到】
: 明天纽约,后天军版。大家准备一下吧。
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M*i
75
表扬你。。应该着眼于发展本版。。。

【在 a*****y 的大作中提到】
: 军版我不去
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Q*g
76
挑战极限嘛。

【在 a*****y 的大作中提到】
: 军版我不去
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Q*g
77
去? 什么主题?

【在 Y*****2 的大作中提到】
: 纽约好啊!
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Q*g
78
可以把敌人都引来。。。挖完坑,最后说,有种你们来bagua报仇!

【在 M**i 的大作中提到】
: 表扬你。。应该着眼于发展本版。。。
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Y*2
79
不知道......
你好好想想.

【在 Q****g 的大作中提到】
: 去? 什么主题?
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r*y
80
激起民愤没啊?
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Q*g
81
夸牛肉?骂丫头?
by the way, 人tough给你写了首诗。

【在 Y*****2 的大作中提到】
: 不知道......
: 你好好想想.

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M*t
82
我想去SYSOP

【在 a*****y 的大作中提到】
: 军版我不去
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M*i
83
别扯蛋了,明明是你发骚。。。往里人多往哪儿浪

【在 Q****g 的大作中提到】
: 可以把敌人都引来。。。挖完坑,最后说,有种你们来bagua报仇!
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Y*2
84
那个没用.....
如果说纽约生活环境多么不好,水平多么低,就会有一群人条出来和你争。
或者就骂 wall st的吸血鬼,或者纽约女的如何白金,男的如何淫荡

【在 Q****g 的大作中提到】
: 夸牛肉?骂丫头?
: by the way, 人tough给你写了首诗。

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M*t
85
花儿街是该骂
本版有人在花儿街工作吗

【在 Y*****2 的大作中提到】
: 那个没用.....
: 如果说纽约生活环境多么不好,水平多么低,就会有一群人条出来和你争。
: 或者就骂 wall st的吸血鬼,或者纽约女的如何白金,男的如何淫荡

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r*y
86
花儿街从哪到哪?
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