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c*f2011-02-01 08:02

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know a girl who is an African American. Just finished PhD in summer, and PhD
work is just OK and she worried a lot if the advisor would let her graduate
before he agreed. She consciously networks and nurtures networking since
early last year at various avenues. So far she got several on-site
interviews (some are from top places), more than anyone around. Networking
is probably the weakest part for us Chinese. If you are not a star candidate
, networking seems the key...

h*t2011-02-01 08:02

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It's possible that she got onsites because she's an African-American.

c*f2011-02-01 08:02

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That should be part of reason, but not all.
A few years ago, a female Iranian postdoc got 3 interviews all through
former postdocs in our department. This girl is a very nice girl, very good
at communication, and a good friend of mine. Her credential is extremely
weak, but she is the kind of people you know that will get offer if s/he got
interviews. She got 3 offers in the end...

【在 h*****t 的大作中提到】

: It's possible that she got onsites because she's an African-American.

l*r2011-02-01 08:02

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key word：native female, african
这两者居其一，你就无敌了

good
got

【在 c*f 的大作中提到】

: That should be part of reason, but not all.
: A few years ago, a female Iranian postdoc got 3 interviews all through
: former postdocs in our department. This girl is a very nice girl, very good
: at communication, and a good friend of mine. Her credential is extremely
: weak, but she is the kind of people you know that will get offer if s/he got
: interviews. She got 3 offers in the end...

l*d2011-02-01 08:02

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So true.

【在 l******r 的大作中提到】

: key word：native female, african
: 这两者居其一，你就无敌了
:
: good
: got

c*f2011-02-01 08:02

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Just knew the girl got an interview from a quasi-top school. Her background
and research is not this school's hiring focuses at all. But she knows the
Associate Dean, who is also an African American. The dean arranged an
interview for her, earlier than the search committee make decision on the on
-sites. The girl thinks she will surely get an offer from this school...

PhD
graduate
candidate

【在 c*f 的大作中提到】

: know a girl who is an African American. Just finished PhD in summer, and PhD
: work is just OK and she worried a lot if the advisor would let her graduate
: before he agreed. She consciously networks and nurtures networking since
: early last year at various avenues. So far she got several on-site
: interviews (some are from top places), more than anyone around. Networking
: is probably the weakest part for us Chinese. If you are not a star candidate
: , networking seems the key...

q*n2011-02-01 08:02

7 楼

Its not networking. Thit is a minority issue.

g*r2011-02-01 08:02

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她跟这个associate dean有多深的交情?
多半还是人家为了搞equal opportunity面子工程才给这个机会.
这样跟search committee也有交代.
要是老中,认识Dean也没用.因为没有为你开例外的借口.

background
on

【在 c*f 的大作中提到】

: Just knew the girl got an interview from a quasi-top school. Her background
: and research is not this school's hiring focuses at all. But she knows the
: Associate Dean, who is also an African American. The dean arranged an
: interview for her, earlier than the search committee make decision on the on
: -sites. The girl thinks she will surely get an offer from this school...
:
: PhD
: graduate
: candidate

c*f2011-02-01 08:02

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It's not 面子工程. I feel that they think they are entitled to do this. They
are also legally allowed to shamelessly help their own.

【在 g********r 的大作中提到】

: 她跟这个associate dean有多深的交情?
: 多半还是人家为了搞equal opportunity面子工程才给这个机会.
: 这样跟search committee也有交代.
: 要是老中,认识Dean也没用.因为没有为你开例外的借口.
:
: background
: on

c*f2011-02-01 08:02

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Don't know. She said the dean was very nice, and called her a few times to
make sure everything was fine...

【在 g********r 的大作中提到】

g*r2011-02-01 08:02

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你是真知道细节还是自己猜的?
不知道什么学校这么牛掰.
一般的地方要是search committee不推荐,就连dean本人一般都不overrule.
更别提什么associate dean了.

They

【在 c*f 的大作中提到】

: It's not 面子工程. I feel that they think they are entitled to do this. They
: are also legally allowed to shamelessly help their own.

c*f2011-02-01 08:02

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I know the girl very well, and we often chat with each other. My posts were
not pointed to her. I just use her example to make a general point.
While I'm not jealous about her, I now better understand why people are
unhappy about AA. Personally, I feel how important the networking is.

【在 g********r 的大作中提到】

: 你是真知道细节还是自己猜的?
: 不知道什么学校这么牛掰.
: 一般的地方要是search committee不推荐,就连dean本人一般都不overrule.
: 更别提什么associate dean了.
:
: They

c*f2011-02-01 08:02

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I'm not sure if she have submitted an application through normal procedure.
But in the beginning, the dean directly asked her to send her application
package to him...

【在 g********r 的大作中提到】

S*n2011-02-01 08:02

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很多时候找个黑人，工资不用院里面出，学校的EO Office会出钱
所以对院里来说，只要这人水平还行，不招白不招

background
on

【在 c*f 的大作中提到】

g*r2011-02-01 08:02

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我靠.这已经不是一般networking能到达的高度了.

.

【在 c*f 的大作中提到】

: I'm not sure if she have submitted an application through normal procedure.
: But in the beginning, the dean directly asked her to send her application
: package to him...