w*r
2 楼
hoho.. then buy some more memory, it is cheap:D mine has 2G, therefore, no
memory concern so far:D
on
memory concern so far:D
on
b*n
3 楼
http://www.eclipse.org/ ???
【在 w*r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: hoho.. then buy some more memory, it is cheap:D mine has 2G, therefore, no
: memory concern so far:D
:
: on
【在 w*r 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: hoho.. then buy some more memory, it is cheap:D mine has 2G, therefore, no
: memory concern so far:D
:
: on
w*r
4 楼
hoho.. then buy some more memory, it is cheap:D mine has 2G, therefore, no
memory concern so far:D
on
memory concern so far:D
on
z*g
5 楼
I feel Netbeans are catching up with Eclipse.
g*g
6 楼
At the end of the day, the one who attracts developers to develop
more plugins for it, will win. Very few switch from Eclipse to Netbeans,
RAD is Eclipse with commercial plugins and I wouldn't mind using
that with EJB projects. For now open source is taking the center stage,
no IDE can beat MyEclipse for overall values.
more plugins for it, will win. Very few switch from Eclipse to Netbeans,
RAD is Eclipse with commercial plugins and I wouldn't mind using
that with EJB projects. For now open source is taking the center stage,
no IDE can beat MyEclipse for overall values.
a*l
7 楼
IntelliJ IDEA
or Eclipse
both integrated with ant.
【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: At the end of the day, the one who attracts developers to develop
: more plugins for it, will win. Very few switch from Eclipse to Netbeans,
: RAD is Eclipse with commercial plugins and I wouldn't mind using
: that with EJB projects. For now open source is taking the center stage,
: no IDE can beat MyEclipse for overall values.
or Eclipse
both integrated with ant.
【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: At the end of the day, the one who attracts developers to develop
: more plugins for it, will win. Very few switch from Eclipse to Netbeans,
: RAD is Eclipse with commercial plugins and I wouldn't mind using
: that with EJB projects. For now open source is taking the center stage,
: no IDE can beat MyEclipse for overall values.
c*t
8 楼
As an application developer, I prefer Eclipse over IntelliJ IDEA (I have
both). Mainly I like Eclipse can pool together errors/warnings in a simple
table. Its variable highlighting feature is also addictive. These are
the two things that I immediately miss when using IntelliJ IDEA.
IDEA has better class level modification tools such as auto-import. Alt-
enter
is consistent, and some frequently used keys are better than that of Eclipse.
Commit can auto-reformat/organize-import. IDEA also has
both). Mainly I like Eclipse can pool together errors/warnings in a simple
table. Its variable highlighting feature is also addictive. These are
the two things that I immediately miss when using IntelliJ IDEA.
IDEA has better class level modification tools such as auto-import. Alt-
enter
is consistent, and some frequently used keys are better than that of Eclipse.
Commit can auto-reformat/organize-import. IDEA also has
z*g
9 楼
I wonder if netbeans has a similar plugin like gef?
I think goodbug does have a point, that eclipse has a larger user-base than
netbeans.
I think goodbug does have a point, that eclipse has a larger user-base than
netbeans.
g*g
10 楼
At the end of the day, the one who attracts developers to develop
more plugins for it, will win. Very few switch from Eclipse to Netbeans,
RAD is Eclipse with commercial plugins and I wouldn't mind using
that with EJB projects. For now open source is taking the center stage,
no IDE can beat MyEclipse for overall values.
more plugins for it, will win. Very few switch from Eclipse to Netbeans,
RAD is Eclipse with commercial plugins and I wouldn't mind using
that with EJB projects. For now open source is taking the center stage,
no IDE can beat MyEclipse for overall values.
c*t
11 楼
Well, if your do refactoring without SVN integration, that's
going to be a major pain in the rear...
going to be a major pain in the rear...
w*r
12 楼
hehe.. well, it is your choice, but it wont work in any serious project. If
you work in companies doing java development, an descent IDE is a must have.
Otherwise, no project manager can get the project rolling down in the road.
you work in companies doing java development, an descent IDE is a must have.
Otherwise, no project manager can get the project rolling down in the road.
G*a
13 楼
yes, that's true, eclipse+svn is a handy way for a group of people working on
a same project. but it does comsume a huge amount of memory, my own old
computer nearly can't afford it.
【在 w*r 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: hehe.. well, it is your choice, but it wont work in any serious project. If
: you work in companies doing java development, an descent IDE is a must have.
: Otherwise, no project manager can get the project rolling down in the road.
a same project. but it does comsume a huge amount of memory, my own old
computer nearly can't afford it.
【在 w*r 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: hehe.. well, it is your choice, but it wont work in any serious project. If
: you work in companies doing java development, an descent IDE is a must have.
: Otherwise, no project manager can get the project rolling down in the road.
w*r
14 楼
nodnod
【在 b*********n 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: http://www.eclipse.org/ ???
【在 b*********n 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: http://www.eclipse.org/ ???
z*g
15 楼
ant is integrated in eclipse.
g*e
16 楼
I agree. With big project at work an IDE is the only choice (I use IDEA 5.1)
unless you are (1) crazy or (2) super smart.
But when you write some small programs for fun or testing any good editors
should be OK.
【在 c*****t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: Well, if your do refactoring without SVN integration, that's
: going to be a major pain in the rear...
unless you are (1) crazy or (2) super smart.
But when you write some small programs for fun or testing any good editors
should be OK.
【在 c*****t 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: Well, if your do refactoring without SVN integration, that's
: going to be a major pain in the rear...
h*d
17 楼
The article is from SUN, hehe
I think the market belongs to three big ones:
Eclipse, free oss, great IDE
Intellij, not free, great IDE
RAD(former WSAD), expensive, sucks, but there are so many IBM shops,
especially big companies.
I think the market belongs to three big ones:
Eclipse, free oss, great IDE
Intellij, not free, great IDE
RAD(former WSAD), expensive, sucks, but there are so many IBM shops,
especially big companies.
g*0
18 楼
eclipse
h*d
19 楼
haha...When I used it, it was not bundled with Intellij yet.
Also I don't like the way intellij cvs(or svn) plugin works,
it's a waste to connect to cvs/svn everytime you add a new file.
【在 c*****t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: Well, if your do refactoring without SVN integration, that's
: going to be a major pain in the rear...
Also I don't like the way intellij cvs(or svn) plugin works,
it's a waste to connect to cvs/svn everytime you add a new file.
【在 c*****t 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: Well, if your do refactoring without SVN integration, that's
: going to be a major pain in the rear...
h*d
21 楼
By the way, if you use continuous integration, and have frequent checkins,
it should not be a big pain unless you r doing really big refactoring...
【在 h**d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: haha...When I used it, it was not bundled with Intellij yet.
: Also I don't like the way intellij cvs(or svn) plugin works,
: it's a waste to connect to cvs/svn everytime you add a new file.
it should not be a big pain unless you r doing really big refactoring...
【在 h**d 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: haha...When I used it, it was not bundled with Intellij yet.
: Also I don't like the way intellij cvs(or svn) plugin works,
: it's a waste to connect to cvs/svn everytime you add a new file.
c*t
24 楼
As an application developer, I prefer Eclipse over IntelliJ IDEA (I have
both). Mainly I like Eclipse can pool together errors/warnings in a simple
table. Its variable highlighting feature is also addictive. These are
the two things that I immediately miss when using IntelliJ IDEA.
IDEA has better class level modification tools such as auto-import. Alt-
enter
is consistent, and some frequently used keys are better than that of Eclipse.
Commit can auto-reformat/organize-import. IDEA also has
【在 h**d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: eclipse and intellij are both common.
: There was a big debate about these two tools in my company for months.
: I'm balanced between these two, would like to go for the most votes in
: project.
both). Mainly I like Eclipse can pool together errors/warnings in a simple
table. Its variable highlighting feature is also addictive. These are
the two things that I immediately miss when using IntelliJ IDEA.
IDEA has better class level modification tools such as auto-import. Alt-
enter
is consistent, and some frequently used keys are better than that of Eclipse.
Commit can auto-reformat/organize-import. IDEA also has
【在 h**d 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: eclipse and intellij are both common.
: There was a big debate about these two tools in my company for months.
: I'm balanced between these two, would like to go for the most votes in
: project.
c*t
26 楼
You can set IntelliJ IDEA s.t. it will use your default choice
of whether or not adding the new file (via "new" or copy/paste
a file or refactoring) to cvs/svn.
【在 h**d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: eclipse and intellij are both common.
: There was a big debate about these two tools in my company for months.
: I'm balanced between these two, would like to go for the most votes in
: project.
of whether or not adding the new file (via "new" or copy/paste
a file or refactoring) to cvs/svn.
【在 h**d 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: eclipse and intellij are both common.
: There was a big debate about these two tools in my company for months.
: I'm balanced between these two, would like to go for the most votes in
: project.
h*d
27 楼
The article is from SUN, hehe
I think the market belongs to three big ones:
Eclipse, free oss, great IDE
Intellij, not free, great IDE
RAD(former WSAD), expensive, sucks, but there are so many IBM shops,
especially big companies.
I think the market belongs to three big ones:
Eclipse, free oss, great IDE
Intellij, not free, great IDE
RAD(former WSAD), expensive, sucks, but there are so many IBM shops,
especially big companies.
h*d
28 楼
The article is from SUN, hehe
I think the market belongs to three big ones:
Eclipse, free oss, great IDE
Intellij, not free, great IDE
RAD(former WSAD), expensive, sucks, but there are so many IBM shops,
especially big companies.
I think the market belongs to three big ones:
Eclipse, free oss, great IDE
Intellij, not free, great IDE
RAD(former WSAD), expensive, sucks, but there are so many IBM shops,
especially big companies.
c*t
29 楼
You can set IntelliJ IDEA s.t. it will use your default choice
of whether or not adding the new file (via "new" or copy/paste
a file or refactoring) to cvs/svn.
【在 h**d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: The article is from SUN, hehe
: I think the market belongs to three big ones:
: Eclipse, free oss, great IDE
: Intellij, not free, great IDE
: RAD(former WSAD), expensive, sucks, but there are so many IBM shops,
: especially big companies.
of whether or not adding the new file (via "new" or copy/paste
a file or refactoring) to cvs/svn.
【在 h**d 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: The article is from SUN, hehe
: I think the market belongs to three big ones:
: Eclipse, free oss, great IDE
: Intellij, not free, great IDE
: RAD(former WSAD), expensive, sucks, but there are so many IBM shops,
: especially big companies.
h*d
32 楼
why do u want to generate? It's customized for your own project ah:)
当然你的要求也有opensource满足,看一下Maven吧
当然你的要求也有opensource满足,看一下Maven吧
h*d
33 楼
Neither of their SVN plugins is good...I either use command line or
tortorise
simple
Eclipse.
【在 c*****t 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: As an application developer, I prefer Eclipse over IntelliJ IDEA (I have
: both). Mainly I like Eclipse can pool together errors/warnings in a simple
: table. Its variable highlighting feature is also addictive. These are
: the two things that I immediately miss when using IntelliJ IDEA.
: IDEA has better class level modification tools such as auto-import. Alt-
: enter
: is consistent, and some frequently used keys are better than that of Eclipse.
: Commit can auto-reformat/organize-import. IDEA also has
tortorise
simple
Eclipse.
【在 c*****t 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: As an application developer, I prefer Eclipse over IntelliJ IDEA (I have
: both). Mainly I like Eclipse can pool together errors/warnings in a simple
: table. Its variable highlighting feature is also addictive. These are
: the two things that I immediately miss when using IntelliJ IDEA.
: IDEA has better class level modification tools such as auto-import. Alt-
: enter
: is consistent, and some frequently used keys are better than that of Eclipse.
: Commit can auto-reformat/organize-import. IDEA also has
g*g
34 楼
At the end of the day, the one who attracts developers to develop
more plugins for it, will win. Very few switch from Eclipse to Netbeans,
RAD is Eclipse with commercial plugins and I wouldn't mind using
that with EJB projects. For now open source is taking the center stage,
no IDE can beat MyEclipse for overall values.
【在 h**d 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: The article is from SUN, hehe
: I think the market belongs to three big ones:
: Eclipse, free oss, great IDE
: Intellij, not free, great IDE
: RAD(former WSAD), expensive, sucks, but there are so many IBM shops,
: especially big companies.
more plugins for it, will win. Very few switch from Eclipse to Netbeans,
RAD is Eclipse with commercial plugins and I wouldn't mind using
that with EJB projects. For now open source is taking the center stage,
no IDE can beat MyEclipse for overall values.
【在 h**d 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: The article is from SUN, hehe
: I think the market belongs to three big ones:
: Eclipse, free oss, great IDE
: Intellij, not free, great IDE
: RAD(former WSAD), expensive, sucks, but there are so many IBM shops,
: especially big companies.
g*g
35 楼
I checked some recent comments about IDE and Netbean 5.x does get a lot
of compliments. And I agree Eclipse does have to be serious with J2EE
development. VE and webtools are not really that great compared with
MyEclipse plugins.
NetBeans is on Fire. Check this out:
http://java.sun.com/developer/technicalArticles/Interviews/ditzel_qa.html
of compliments. And I agree Eclipse does have to be serious with J2EE
development. VE and webtools are not really that great compared with
MyEclipse plugins.
NetBeans is on Fire. Check this out:
http://java.sun.com/developer/technicalArticles/Interviews/ditzel_qa.html
m*t
36 楼
OK, it doesn't help Netbean's image if its fans get all "spammy", now does
it? 8-)
it? 8-)
B*N
37 楼
等你搞jee, editor就不管用乐,或者生产效率就不行乐。
h*d
41 楼
My checkin procedure:
finish coding, get latest code from sourcecontrol, run through all the tests,
check the source control again to see if there is new code available, commit
my change, waiting for cruisecontrol report(at the same time, write a test
to make my build fail without implementing the feature, then I can remember
where I'm at the next day)...
So I don't really care what other people checked in unless I see a merge
conflict.
synchronized
your
【在 B******N 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: then can you merge, commit as you reading? for plugin, once you synchronized
: , you can know exactly what are the difference, then really convinient to
: commit and merge them. by reading the status i assume you have to flip your
: explore back and forth to do it.
finish coding, get latest code from sourcecontrol, run through all the tests,
check the source control again to see if there is new code available, commit
my change, waiting for cruisecontrol report(at the same time, write a test
to make my build fail without implementing the feature, then I can remember
where I'm at the next day)...
So I don't really care what other people checked in unless I see a merge
conflict.
synchronized
your
【在 B******N 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: then can you merge, commit as you reading? for plugin, once you synchronized
: , you can know exactly what are the difference, then really convinient to
: commit and merge them. by reading the status i assume you have to flip your
: explore back and forth to do it.
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