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c*s2005-01-11 08:01

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JAVA和.NET可比性不大，毕竟JAVA是语言，.NET是framework。MS前阵子还搞过一些java
的.net解释器和什么J#。竞争存在于.NET和J2EE之间。
http://www.theserverside.com/articles/article.tss?l=J2EE-vs-DOTNET
这里贴出来的只是结论部分。
VI. Conclusions
The J2EE verses .NET battle will be the soap opera of the decade for geeks to
watch. But there are promises and realities about both platforms. For example,
J2EE is a rather brilliant move on the vendors' part, but should not be seen
as an altruistic initiative. All vendors that participate in J2EE are after
financ

w*r2005-01-11 08:01

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ft.. this article is too old leh...

JAVA和.NET可比性不大，毕竟JAVA是语言，.NET是framework。MS前阵子还搞过一些java
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【在 c*****s 的大作中提到】

: JAVA和.NET可比性不大，毕竟JAVA是语言，.NET是framework。MS前阵子还搞过一些java
: 的.net解释器和什么J#。竞争存在于.NET和J2EE之间。
: http://www.theserverside.com/articles/article.tss?l=J2EE-vs-DOTNET
: 这里贴出来的只是结论部分。
: VI. Conclusions
: The J2EE verses .NET battle will be the soap opera of the decade for geeks to
: watch. But there are promises and realities about both platforms. For example,
: J2EE is a rather brilliant move on the vendors' part, but should not be seen
: as an altruistic initiative. All vendors that participate in J2EE are after
: financ

m*t2005-01-11 08:01

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JAVA和.NET可比性不大，毕竟JAVA是语言，.NET是framework。MS前阵子还搞过一些java
Java (i.e. J2SE) _is_ being perceived as a platform for all the practical
purposes. You know, there _are_ actually lots of people pondering on whether
to build their application with Swing/SWT or .Net. 8-)

【在 c*****s 的大作中提到】

: JAVA和.NET可比性不大，毕竟JAVA是语言，.NET是framework。MS前阵子还搞过一些java
: 的.net解释器和什么J#。竞争存在于.NET和J2EE之间。
: http://www.theserverside.com/articles/article.tss?l=J2EE-vs-DOTNET
: 这里贴出来的只是结论部分。
: VI. Conclusions
: The J2EE verses .NET battle will be the soap opera of the decade for geeks to
: watch. But there are promises and realities about both platforms. For example,
: J2EE is a rather brilliant move on the vendors' part, but should not be seen
: as an altruistic initiative. All vendors that participate in J2EE are after
: financ

F*n2005-01-11 08:01

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JVM is the platform, Java the language.

JAVA和.NET可比性不大，毕竟JAVA是语言，.NET是framework。MS前阵子还搞过一些java
whether

【在 m******t 的大作中提到】

:
: JAVA和.NET可比性不大，毕竟JAVA是语言，.NET是framework。MS前阵子还搞过一些java
: Java (i.e. J2SE) _is_ being perceived as a platform for all the practical
: purposes. You know, there _are_ actually lots of people pondering on whether
: to build their application with Swing/SWT or .Net. 8-)

r*l2005-01-11 08:01

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No need to argue about those details.
If the job requirement says java, it means not only the language itself, but
also the platform, J2EE, and the whole thing.
There's nothing wrong to say Java is a platform.

JAVA和.NET可比性不大，毕竟JAVA是语言，.NET是framework。MS前阵子还搞过一些java

【在 F****n 的大作中提到】

: JVM is the platform, Java the language.
:
: JAVA和.NET可比性不大，毕竟JAVA是语言，.NET是framework。MS前阵子还搞过一些java
: whether

c*s2005-01-11 08:01

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如果一定要准确的说，java是三个东西
1. JVM，虚拟指令集
2. SDK，简易的开发工具集
3. Programming Language.
JVM的性能是个问题，但这是个做为软件公司根本不会去花时间的问题。
开发工具上同visual studio.net竞争的不是j2se sdk，而是eclipse, intellij,
netbeans等工具。
至于语言，.net的跨语言实在是个典型的MS产品的特性——听上去特酷，实际毫无价值。
我觉得等到java芯片稳定下来后，企业里将没有.net的应用。

JAVA和.NET可比性不大，毕竟JAVA是语言，.NET是framework。MS前阵子还搞过一些java
practical

【在 r***l 的大作中提到】

: No need to argue about those details.
: If the job requirement says java, it means not only the language itself, but
: also the platform, J2EE, and the whole thing.
: There's nothing wrong to say Java is a platform.
:
: JAVA和.NET可比性不大，毕竟JAVA是语言，.NET是framework。MS前阵子还搞过一些java

r*l2005-01-11 08:01

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It is the battle between multiple platforms one language vs. multiple
languages and one platform.
Not many companies are using different languages to build one application,
even web services and .NET make this easier.
Eventually MS has to realize there's no way they can destroy linux and starts
supporting linux for .NET.

。
but
JAVA和.NET可比性不大，毕竟JAVA是语言，.NET是framework。MS前阵子还搞过一些java

【在 c*****s 的大作中提到】

: 如果一定要准确的说，java是三个东西
: 1. JVM，虚拟指令集
: 2. SDK，简易的开发工具集
: 3. Programming Language.
: JVM的性能是个问题，但这是个做为软件公司根本不会去花时间的问题。
: 开发工具上同visual studio.net竞争的不是j2se sdk，而是eclipse, intellij,
: netbeans等工具。
: 至于语言，.net的跨语言实在是个典型的MS产品的特性——听上去特酷，实际毫无价值。
: 我觉得等到java芯片稳定下来后，企业里将没有.net的应用。
:

w*g2005-01-11 08:01

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it is possible to compile any language to Java byte code.

【在 r***l 的大作中提到】

: It is the battle between multiple platforms one language vs. multiple
: languages and one platform.
: Not many companies are using different languages to build one application,
: even web services and .NET make this easier.
: Eventually MS has to realize there's no way they can destroy linux and starts
: supporting linux for .NET.
:
: 。
: but
: JAVA和.NET可比性不大，毕竟JAVA是语言，.NET是framework。MS前阵子还搞过一些java

c*g2005-01-11 08:01

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right, my compiler course project was a java-written compiler to
compile a simple sub pascal targeting JVM, which was fun.

【在 w*******g 的大作中提到】

: it is possible to compile any language to Java byte code.

o*e2005-01-11 08:01

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people won't use any language other than C# to build .Net app
just like many JVM-based langauges can never gain popularity.
technically it is true that .Net support language variations better
than java; but this is nontheless mainly marketing hype and totally
irrelavant to normal developers.
Sun legally controls java, and MS practically controls C#,
the difference at bytecode level has no effect to language evolution.

【在 r***l 的大作中提到】

: It is the battle between multiple platforms one language vs. multiple
: languages and one platform.
: Not many companies are using different languages to build one application,
: even web services and .NET make this easier.
: Eventually MS has to realize there's no way they can destroy linux and starts
: supporting linux for .NET.
:
: 。
: but
: JAVA和.NET可比性不大，毕竟JAVA是语言，.NET是framework。MS前阵子还搞过一些java

l*e2005-01-11 08:01

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...I don't know what you were talking about..

。
but
JAVA和.NET可比性不大，毕竟JAVA是语言，.NET是framework。MS前阵子还搞过一些java

【在 c*****s 的大作中提到】

: 如果一定要准确的说，java是三个东西
: 1. JVM，虚拟指令集
: 2. SDK，简易的开发工具集
: 3. Programming Language.
: JVM的性能是个问题，但这是个做为软件公司根本不会去花时间的问题。
: 开发工具上同visual studio.net竞争的不是j2se sdk，而是eclipse, intellij,
: netbeans等工具。
: 至于语言，.net的跨语言实在是个典型的MS产品的特性——听上去特酷，实际毫无价值。
: 我觉得等到java芯片稳定下来后，企业里将没有.net的应用。
: