W*r
2 楼
FYI:
http://www.businessinsider.com/silicon-valley-engineer-negotiat
How one Silicon Valley engineer negotiated a starting salary from $120k to $
250k in just a few weeks
Eugene Kim
Haseeb Qureshi makes $250,000 a year as a software engineer at Airbnb.
But he could have ended up with a $120,000 position at Yelp if he had taken
his first offer.
How did he manage to more than double his starting salary in just a few
weeks?
Qureshi, a former professional poker player with an English degree, recounts
his story in a recent blog post shared on his website.
The whole story is a fascinating read and gives a glimpse into Silicon
Valley's competitive hiring market for engineers. It also serves as a
reminder that persistence and negotiation pays off in any job hunt.
"If there’s one thing this job search had taught me, is that there’s
always, always more money on the table," Qureshi writes. "On all but two of
my offers, I negotiated...negotiation pays, boys and girls."
Qureshi tells his story in two separate, long blog posts. You should read
the whole thing, but if you don't have time right this second, here are some
highlights:
Qureshi isn't your typical Silicon Valley engineer: He's an English major
and a former poker player who had no professional coding experience.
He first learned how to code by joining a 12-week coding bootcamp at App
Academy, where he later became Director of Product.
Qureshi was rejected by every one of the 20-plus jobs he first applied for.
He finally got an interview with 23AndMe through a referral of a bootcamp
classmate. They didn't offer him the job.
So he signed up for TripleByte, a YC startup that helps engineers find jobs.
He passed their programming quiz and did well on the interview. Soon, it
connected him with a number of YC startups, including Gusto and Flexport.
Flexport passed on him, but Gusto made him an offer. He got an interview
with Yelp through another referral, and was offered a job too. Both offered
around $120,000 in total salary.
Instead of settling there, Qureshi told other companies he was talking to
that he receieved serveral offers. Suddenly, recruiters started setting up
interviews, including a call with Google.
He killed his Google interview and was offered a $162,000 a year package.
And with that, the floodgates opened: recruiters set him up with big
startups like Uber, Stripe, and Twitch, all of which ended up making him an
offer.
Right when he was about to accept the Google offer, he got a call from
Airbnb, the company that rejected him just a month ago. He was referred by
the CTO of App Academy who has a friend at Airbnb. "With his referral, I was
promptly un-rejected," Qureshi writes.
He aced the interview again, and was offered $220,000 in total ($130K, $25K
signing bonus, and $65K worth of RSUs a year.)
Google countered by raising their offer to $211,000 a year.
But Qureshi still wanted to work for Airbnb. "I told myself: if I’m
choosing Airbnb, just remember. 220K was their initial offer. That means
there’s money on the table," he writes.
He called his Airbnb recruiter and said, “If Airbnb can move up the RSUs by
30K to hit a total of 250K in all-in compensation, then I’ll sign.”
Airbnb returned with a new offer worth $250,000 ($130K salary, 25K signing,
95K a year in RSUs). He took the job.
Qureshi says he didn't get a single offer through a raw applications. All
the offers came through a referral of some kind.
On all but two of his offers, he negotiated. The base salary was mostly the
same at around $130,000 a year. He negotiated more aggressively on RSUs and
signing bonuses.
http://www.businessinsider.com/silicon-valley-engineer-negotiat
How one Silicon Valley engineer negotiated a starting salary from $120k to $
250k in just a few weeks
Eugene Kim
Haseeb Qureshi makes $250,000 a year as a software engineer at Airbnb.
But he could have ended up with a $120,000 position at Yelp if he had taken
his first offer.
How did he manage to more than double his starting salary in just a few
weeks?
Qureshi, a former professional poker player with an English degree, recounts
his story in a recent blog post shared on his website.
The whole story is a fascinating read and gives a glimpse into Silicon
Valley's competitive hiring market for engineers. It also serves as a
reminder that persistence and negotiation pays off in any job hunt.
"If there’s one thing this job search had taught me, is that there’s
always, always more money on the table," Qureshi writes. "On all but two of
my offers, I negotiated...negotiation pays, boys and girls."
Qureshi tells his story in two separate, long blog posts. You should read
the whole thing, but if you don't have time right this second, here are some
highlights:
Qureshi isn't your typical Silicon Valley engineer: He's an English major
and a former poker player who had no professional coding experience.
He first learned how to code by joining a 12-week coding bootcamp at App
Academy, where he later became Director of Product.
Qureshi was rejected by every one of the 20-plus jobs he first applied for.
He finally got an interview with 23AndMe through a referral of a bootcamp
classmate. They didn't offer him the job.
So he signed up for TripleByte, a YC startup that helps engineers find jobs.
He passed their programming quiz and did well on the interview. Soon, it
connected him with a number of YC startups, including Gusto and Flexport.
Flexport passed on him, but Gusto made him an offer. He got an interview
with Yelp through another referral, and was offered a job too. Both offered
around $120,000 in total salary.
Instead of settling there, Qureshi told other companies he was talking to
that he receieved serveral offers. Suddenly, recruiters started setting up
interviews, including a call with Google.
He killed his Google interview and was offered a $162,000 a year package.
And with that, the floodgates opened: recruiters set him up with big
startups like Uber, Stripe, and Twitch, all of which ended up making him an
offer.
Right when he was about to accept the Google offer, he got a call from
Airbnb, the company that rejected him just a month ago. He was referred by
the CTO of App Academy who has a friend at Airbnb. "With his referral, I was
promptly un-rejected," Qureshi writes.
He aced the interview again, and was offered $220,000 in total ($130K, $25K
signing bonus, and $65K worth of RSUs a year.)
Google countered by raising their offer to $211,000 a year.
But Qureshi still wanted to work for Airbnb. "I told myself: if I’m
choosing Airbnb, just remember. 220K was their initial offer. That means
there’s money on the table," he writes.
He called his Airbnb recruiter and said, “If Airbnb can move up the RSUs by
30K to hit a total of 250K in all-in compensation, then I’ll sign.”
Airbnb returned with a new offer worth $250,000 ($130K salary, 25K signing,
95K a year in RSUs). He took the job.
Qureshi says he didn't get a single offer through a raw applications. All
the offers came through a referral of some kind.
On all but two of his offers, he negotiated. The base salary was mostly the
same at around $130,000 a year. He negotiated more aggressively on RSUs and
signing bonuses.
t*e
3 楼
你扫了how much
【在 s*****j 的大作中提到】
: 3G 64G
: MARK一下
【在 s*****j 的大作中提到】
: 3G 64G
: MARK一下
j*o
4 楼
network, network, network. 索南就别想了！
s*j
5 楼
你扫了how many
【在 t*****e 的大作中提到】
: 你扫了how much
【在 t*****e 的大作中提到】
: 你扫了how much
e*y
6 楼
穆斯林啊，大家都不敢惹吧，哈哈
t*e
7 楼
none
just back from
【在 s*****j 的大作中提到】
: 你扫了how many
just back from
【在 s*****j 的大作中提到】
: 你扫了how many
s*3
8 楼
他怎么说服Google等他面试蛮久
$
taken
【在 W**********r 的大作中提到】
: FYI:
: http://www.businessinsider.com/silicon-valley-engineer-negotiat
: How one Silicon Valley engineer negotiated a starting salary from $120k to $
: 250k in just a few weeks
: Eugene Kim
: Haseeb Qureshi makes $250,000 a year as a software engineer at Airbnb.
: But he could have ended up with a $120,000 position at Yelp if he had taken
: his first offer.
: How did he manage to more than double his starting salary in just a few
: weeks?
$
taken
【在 W**********r 的大作中提到】
: FYI:
: http://www.businessinsider.com/silicon-valley-engineer-negotiat
: How one Silicon Valley engineer negotiated a starting salary from $120k to $
: 250k in just a few weeks
: Eugene Kim
: Haseeb Qureshi makes $250,000 a year as a software engineer at Airbnb.
: But he could have ended up with a $120,000 position at Yelp if he had taken
: his first offer.
: How did he manage to more than double his starting salary in just a few
: weeks?
t*n
9 楼
除了没文凭以外，基本就是最正常不过的面试经历，不知道有啥奇怪的
s*n
10 楼
他似乎没什么开发经验，不过作为职业扑克选手，肯定是非常聪明的
[在 WindFollower (～～随风飘逝～～) 的大作中提到：]
：FYI:
：
：...........
[在 WindFollower (～～随风飘逝～～) 的大作中提到：]
：FYI:
：
：...........
w*z
11 楼
题刷得好。
【在 s*******n 的大作中提到】
: 他似乎没什么开发经验，不过作为职业扑克选手，肯定是非常聪明的
: [在 WindFollower (～～随风飘逝～～) 的大作中提到：]
: ：FYI:
: ：
: ：...........
【在 s*******n 的大作中提到】
: 他似乎没什么开发经验，不过作为职业扑克选手，肯定是非常聪明的
: [在 WindFollower (～～随风飘逝～～) 的大作中提到：]
: ：FYI:
: ：
: ：...........
F*e
12 楼
想啥呢，题刷得好只是对中国人。
【在 w**z 的大作中提到】
: 题刷得好。
【在 w**z 的大作中提到】
: 题刷得好。
r*l
13 楼
聊天聊得好
【在 F*****e 的大作中提到】
: 想啥呢，题刷得好只是对中国人。
【在 F*****e 的大作中提到】
: 想啥呢，题刷得好只是对中国人。
l*x
14 楼
一码归一码的说，这个人确实是题刷的好的，当然聊天也聊的好。大家不要看人家拿了
多个offer就嫉妒。
【在 r******l 的大作中提到】
: 聊天聊得好
多个offer就嫉妒。
【在 r******l 的大作中提到】
: 聊天聊得好
g*c
15 楼
没有design？
【在 l******x 的大作中提到】
: 一码归一码的说，这个人确实是题刷的好的，当然聊天也聊的好。大家不要看人家拿了
: 多个offer就嫉妒。
【在 l******x 的大作中提到】
: 一码归一码的说，这个人确实是题刷的好的，当然聊天也聊的好。大家不要看人家拿了
: 多个offer就嫉妒。
l*x
16 楼
他这种没有过经验的，就算有design也会比较浅，更何况很多公司对这个级别的就是没
有design。
其实他这种把这事放上网的做法，跟他自己linkedin中极度的自我销售挺一致的。这人
格外的情商高在于，他面试的时候并没有表现出来，所以每家都给了offer。
这人的确情商智商双高，看起来也非常喜欢attention. 其实最大的问题是，他把工资
的事放出来，他Airbnb的同事如果比他挣的少很多会怎么想？也许他根本没想真的去上
班，就是想发布个新闻做网络红人。
【在 g*c 的大作中提到】
: 没有design？
有design。
其实他这种把这事放上网的做法，跟他自己linkedin中极度的自我销售挺一致的。这人
格外的情商高在于，他面试的时候并没有表现出来，所以每家都给了offer。
这人的确情商智商双高，看起来也非常喜欢attention. 其实最大的问题是，他把工资
的事放出来，他Airbnb的同事如果比他挣的少很多会怎么想？也许他根本没想真的去上
班，就是想发布个新闻做网络红人。
【在 g*c 的大作中提到】
: 没有design？
S*n
17 楼
其实base也就正常的130k。其他东西都是浮云。我觉得他这样的人也呆不了1年。当然
如果他真有能耐另说，不合适的话，airbnb也不亏
如果他真有能耐另说，不合适的话，airbnb也不亏
e*y
18 楼
没错。这里面Google的offer最有诚意了。尼玛气床也就是画个大饼。。
【在 S*******n 的大作中提到】
: 其实base也就正常的130k。其他东西都是浮云。我觉得他这样的人也呆不了1年。当然
: 如果他真有能耐另说，不合适的话，airbnb也不亏
【在 S*******n 的大作中提到】
: 其实base也就正常的130k。其他东西都是浮云。我觉得他这样的人也呆不了1年。当然
: 如果他真有能耐另说，不合适的话，airbnb也不亏
t*r
19 楼
这人看起来还是很聪明挺有能力的，能不能静下心好好干活就不知道了
【在 S*******n 的大作中提到】
: 其实base也就正常的130k。其他东西都是浮云。我觉得他这样的人也呆不了1年。当然
: 如果他真有能耐另说，不合适的话，airbnb也不亏
【在 S*******n 的大作中提到】
: 其实base也就正常的130k。其他东西都是浮云。我觉得他这样的人也呆不了1年。当然
: 如果他真有能耐另说，不合适的话，airbnb也不亏
q*n
20 楼
RSU是每年都有，还是只有前几年有呢？
sign on bonus 真的不能算salary 吧。。
【在 S*******n 的大作中提到】
: 其实base也就正常的130k。其他东西都是浮云。我觉得他这样的人也呆不了1年。当然
: 如果他真有能耐另说，不合适的话，airbnb也不亏
sign on bonus 真的不能算salary 吧。。
【在 S*******n 的大作中提到】
: 其实base也就正常的130k。其他东西都是浮云。我觉得他这样的人也呆不了1年。当然
: 如果他真有能耐另说，不合适的话，airbnb也不亏
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