Advanced sex education (转载)# Joke - 肚皮舞运动
a*a
1 楼
今天grant分数下来了，NICHD resubmission 13 percentile，比第一次submission高
了7个点。
请教大家这个还有希望被fund吗？多谢！
了7个点。
请教大家这个还有希望被fund吗？多谢！
e*t
2 楼
将来好查找。
t*y
3 楼
【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: Concord (五毛出东方 利中国), 信区: Military
标 题: Advanced sex education
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue May 18 04:45:01 2010, 美东)
rt
发信人: Concord (五毛出东方 利中国), 信区: Military
标 题: Advanced sex education
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue May 18 04:45:01 2010, 美东)
rt
P*r
5 楼
re 这位大哥给了很多很实用的建议，赞一个
l*e
6 楼
peng si ni
【在 t*******y 的大作中提到】
: 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
: 发信人: Concord (五毛出东方 利中国), 信区: Military
: 标 题: Advanced sex education
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue May 18 04:45:01 2010, 美东)
: rt
【在 t*******y 的大作中提到】
: 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
: 发信人: Concord (五毛出东方 利中国), 信区: Military
: 标 题: Advanced sex education
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue May 18 04:45:01 2010, 美东)
: rt
n*g
7 楼
我的 resubmission从18%到25%。有天理吗。
c*o
8 楼
赞打嗝
r*9
9 楼
我还有一次resubmit从25%到46%
【在 n******g 的大作中提到】
: 我的 resubmission从18%到25%。有天理吗。
【在 n******g 的大作中提到】
: 我的 resubmission从18%到25%。有天理吗。
m*y
10 楼
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n*g
11 楼
请问您还能对proposal作些什么？修修在投？
【在 r****9 的大作中提到】
: 我还有一次resubmit从25%到46%
【在 r****9 的大作中提到】
: 我还有一次resubmit从25%到46%
e*h
12 楼
en,我每次看到都想save下来，留着以后用
r*9
13 楼
是啊 改一改 投別的agency了
【在 n******g 的大作中提到】
: 请问您还能对proposal作些什么？修修在投？
【在 n******g 的大作中提到】
: 请问您还能对proposal作些什么？修修在投？
a*a
14 楼
从这个链接看到
NICHD ($1.28B): FY15: pending [FY13 paylines (FY14 never posted): 9th/13th
percentile for established/new-ESI investigators; 7th percentile for R03s &
R21s;
那R21的new investigator 13 percentile 有没有可能被fund呢？还是说按照7th
percentile cutoff，完全没有希望了呢？
现在还能做些什么提高下被fund的可能性么？
求指点，非常感谢！
【在 c*********0 的大作中提到】
: http://writedit.wordpress.com/nih-paylines-resources/
NICHD ($1.28B): FY15: pending [FY13 paylines (FY14 never posted): 9th/13th
percentile for established/new-ESI investigators; 7th percentile for R03s &
R21s;
那R21的new investigator 13 percentile 有没有可能被fund呢？还是说按照7th
percentile cutoff，完全没有希望了呢？
现在还能做些什么提高下被fund的可能性么？
求指点，非常感谢！
【在 c*********0 的大作中提到】
: http://writedit.wordpress.com/nih-paylines-resources/
a*a
15 楼
修改后，还能再投NIH吗？现在是不是对resubmission次数没有限制了？
【在 r****9 的大作中提到】
: 是啊 改一改 投別的agency了
【在 r****9 的大作中提到】
: 是啊 改一改 投別的agency了
b*d
16 楼
R21没有new investigator的优惠.那个优惠只给R01.
&
【在 a*******a 的大作中提到】
: 从这个链接看到
: NICHD ($1.28B): FY15: pending [FY13 paylines (FY14 never posted): 9th/13th
: percentile for established/new-ESI investigators; 7th percentile for R03s &
: R21s;
: 那R21的new investigator 13 percentile 有没有可能被fund呢？还是说按照7th
: percentile cutoff，完全没有希望了呢？
: 现在还能做些什么提高下被fund的可能性么？
: 求指点，非常感谢！
&
【在 a*******a 的大作中提到】
: 从这个链接看到
: NICHD ($1.28B): FY15: pending [FY13 paylines (FY14 never posted): 9th/13th
: percentile for established/new-ESI investigators; 7th percentile for R03s &
: R21s;
: 那R21的new investigator 13 percentile 有没有可能被fund呢？还是说按照7th
: percentile cutoff，完全没有希望了呢？
: 现在还能做些什么提高下被fund的可能性么？
: 求指点，非常感谢！
P*3
17 楼
能
【在 a*******a 的大作中提到】
: 修改后，还能再投NIH吗？现在是不是对resubmission次数没有限制了？
【在 a*******a 的大作中提到】
: 修改后，还能再投NIH吗？现在是不是对resubmission次数没有限制了？
L*8
18 楼
NIDCR， “Fiscal policy but no paylines”
这是什么意思？
【在 c*********0 的大作中提到】
: http://writedit.wordpress.com/nih-paylines-resources/
这是什么意思？
【在 c*********0 的大作中提到】
: http://writedit.wordpress.com/nih-paylines-resources/
b*d
19 楼
就是不公布payline.他们根据他们定的原则来发钱.
【在 L**********8 的大作中提到】
: NIDCR， “Fiscal policy but no paylines”
: 这是什么意思？
【在 L**********8 的大作中提到】
: NIDCR， “Fiscal policy but no paylines”
: 这是什么意思？
A*y
20 楼
That's why I keep telling new investigators not to apply for R21. Go for
R01. Even NIH POs are telling NI/ESI not to apply for R21, but I guess
people don't listen.
&
【在 a*******a 的大作中提到】
: 从这个链接看到
: NICHD ($1.28B): FY15: pending [FY13 paylines (FY14 never posted): 9th/13th
: percentile for established/new-ESI investigators; 7th percentile for R03s &
: R21s;
: 那R21的new investigator 13 percentile 有没有可能被fund呢？还是说按照7th
: percentile cutoff，完全没有希望了呢？
: 现在还能做些什么提高下被fund的可能性么？
: 求指点，非常感谢！
R01. Even NIH POs are telling NI/ESI not to apply for R21, but I guess
people don't listen.
&
【在 a*******a 的大作中提到】
: 从这个链接看到
: NICHD ($1.28B): FY15: pending [FY13 paylines (FY14 never posted): 9th/13th
: percentile for established/new-ESI investigators; 7th percentile for R03s &
: R21s;
: 那R21的new investigator 13 percentile 有没有可能被fund呢？还是说按照7th
: percentile cutoff，完全没有希望了呢？
: 现在还能做些什么提高下被fund的可能性么？
: 求指点，非常感谢！
a*a
21 楼
这个idea 确实是一个exploratory high novelty的课题，与R21主题贴切， 所以就写
成了R21了。。。
写成R01感觉似乎分量有点不够
【在 A******y 的大作中提到】
: That's why I keep telling new investigators not to apply for R21. Go for
: R01. Even NIH POs are telling NI/ESI not to apply for R21, but I guess
: people don't listen.
:
: &
成了R21了。。。
写成R01感觉似乎分量有点不够
【在 A******y 的大作中提到】
: That's why I keep telling new investigators not to apply for R21. Go for
: R01. Even NIH POs are telling NI/ESI not to apply for R21, but I guess
: people don't listen.
:
: &
A*y
22 楼
This logic is as stupid as the r21 guideline on preliminary data. Go ask a
PO about how many R21s are funded without preliminary data. Also, if you
ask PO what's the score you will likely get if it is an R01, the answer most
likely to be lower due to a simple fact. The R01 NI/ESI proposals are
separately reviewed from established investigators. R21 there is no
separate review process. As a competitor I would say if people like to
commit suicide; let them.
【在 a*******a 的大作中提到】
: 这个idea 确实是一个exploratory high novelty的课题，与R21主题贴切， 所以就写
: 成了R21了。。。
: 写成R01感觉似乎分量有点不够
PO about how many R21s are funded without preliminary data. Also, if you
ask PO what's the score you will likely get if it is an R01, the answer most
likely to be lower due to a simple fact. The R01 NI/ESI proposals are
separately reviewed from established investigators. R21 there is no
separate review process. As a competitor I would say if people like to
commit suicide; let them.
【在 a*******a 的大作中提到】
: 这个idea 确实是一个exploratory high novelty的课题，与R21主题贴切， 所以就写
: 成了R21了。。。
: 写成R01感觉似乎分量有点不够
a*a
23 楼
Appreciate your suggestions.
a
most
【在 A******y 的大作中提到】
: This logic is as stupid as the r21 guideline on preliminary data. Go ask a
: PO about how many R21s are funded without preliminary data. Also, if you
: ask PO what's the score you will likely get if it is an R01, the answer most
: likely to be lower due to a simple fact. The R01 NI/ESI proposals are
: separately reviewed from established investigators. R21 there is no
: separate review process. As a competitor I would say if people like to
: commit suicide; let them.
a
most
【在 A******y 的大作中提到】
: This logic is as stupid as the r21 guideline on preliminary data. Go ask a
: PO about how many R21s are funded without preliminary data. Also, if you
: ask PO what's the score you will likely get if it is an R01, the answer most
: likely to be lower due to a simple fact. The R01 NI/ESI proposals are
: separately reviewed from established investigators. R21 there is no
: separate review process. As a competitor I would say if people like to
: commit suicide; let them.
H*y
24 楼
学习了！能再详细解释下吗？
When you say lower score, you mean lower percentage and higher impact, right?
And you mean there are no external reviewers for R21?
a
most
【在 A******y 的大作中提到】
: This logic is as stupid as the r21 guideline on preliminary data. Go ask a
: PO about how many R21s are funded without preliminary data. Also, if you
: ask PO what's the score you will likely get if it is an R01, the answer most
: likely to be lower due to a simple fact. The R01 NI/ESI proposals are
: separately reviewed from established investigators. R21 there is no
: separate review process. As a competitor I would say if people like to
: commit suicide; let them.
When you say lower score, you mean lower percentage and higher impact, right?
And you mean there are no external reviewers for R21?
a
most
【在 A******y 的大作中提到】
: This logic is as stupid as the r21 guideline on preliminary data. Go ask a
: PO about how many R21s are funded without preliminary data. Also, if you
: ask PO what's the score you will likely get if it is an R01, the answer most
: likely to be lower due to a simple fact. The R01 NI/ESI proposals are
: separately reviewed from established investigators. R21 there is no
: separate review process. As a competitor I would say if people like to
: commit suicide; let them.
A*y
25 楼
I didn't say there is no external reviewers for R21. I said there is no
division between the proposals for NI/ESI or established investigator. All
proposal are reviewed equally unlike R01. For R01 reviews, NI/ESI proposals
are in a different pool during the review. Therefore, NI/ESIs have two
advantages over established investigators during the R01 processes to get
funded. One is during the review because your proposal is been reviewed and
compared with other NI/ESI (some people claim it makes no difference but I
will let you be the judge) and the other is during the payline phase.
right?
【在 H****y 的大作中提到】
: 学习了！能再详细解释下吗？
: When you say lower score, you mean lower percentage and higher impact, right?
: And you mean there are no external reviewers for R21?
:
: a
: most
division between the proposals for NI/ESI or established investigator. All
proposal are reviewed equally unlike R01. For R01 reviews, NI/ESI proposals
are in a different pool during the review. Therefore, NI/ESIs have two
advantages over established investigators during the R01 processes to get
funded. One is during the review because your proposal is been reviewed and
compared with other NI/ESI (some people claim it makes no difference but I
will let you be the judge) and the other is during the payline phase.
right?
【在 H****y 的大作中提到】
: 学习了！能再详细解释下吗？
: When you say lower score, you mean lower percentage and higher impact, right?
: And you mean there are no external reviewers for R21?
:
: a
: most
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