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学术: 聪明的人更容易输的游戏？

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k*o2013-03-13 07:03

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今天一查状态rfe了……说昨天寄出的notice
wac/non-pp/公司不大，律师很负责
有个问题就是contract公司帮申请h1b 但是工作在一家大一些的公司。
MS学的CS，现在工作是码工，感觉专业上问题不大，请大家帮看看可能是什么原因。还
有被rfe了的意思是不是离被拒不远了？

d*82013-03-13 07:03

2 楼

http://ads.iheartcvs.com/2010/04/0509-0515.html
U by Kotex终于也free了
有1off的mfc，之前还有1off的CVS胖子
大家玩好啊
我要回国度假了

z*e2013-03-13 07:03

3 楼

http://www.weidai.com/smart-losers.txt
Given that there is significant existing variation in human intelligence,
it's curious that we are not all much smarter than we actually are.
Besides the well-known costs of higher intelligence (e.g., more energy
use, bigger heads causing more difficult births), it seems that being
smart can be a disadvantage when playing some non-zero-sum games. Here is
one example.
Consider an infinitely repeated game with 2n players, where in each round
all players are randomly matched against each other in n seperate
prisoner's dillema stage games. After each round is finished, the outcomes
are recorded and published.
One plausible outcome of this game is for everyone to follow this strategy
(let's call it A): Initially mark all players as "good". If anyone defects
against a player who is marked as "good", mark him as "bad". Play
"cooperate" against "good" players, "defect" against "bad" players.
Now suppose in each stage game, there is probability p that the outcome is
not made public. Also assume that n is large enough so that we can
disregard the possibility that two players might face each other again in
the future and remember a previous non-published outcome. Now depending on
p, the discount factor, and the actual payoffs, it can still be an
equilibrium for everyone to follow strategy A.
For example, suppose the payoffs are 2,2/3,-10/-10,3/0,0, and p=0.5. If a
player deviates from the above strategy and plays "defect" against a
"good" player, he gains 1 utility (compared to strategy A) for the current
round, but has a probability of 0.5 of losing 2 utility in each future
round.
Now further suppose that the random number generator used to decide
whether each outcome is published or not is only pseudorandom, and there
are some "smart" players who are able to recognize the pattern and predict
whether a given stage game's outcome will be published. And suppose it's
public knowledge who these "smart" players are. In this third game, its no
longer an equilibrium for everyone to follow strategy A, because a "smart"
player should always play "defect" in any round in which he predicts the
outcome won't be published. The "normal" players can follow strategy A, or
they can follow a modified strategy (B) which starts by marking all
"smart" players as "bad", in which case the "smart" players should also
start by marking all "normal" players as "bad".
In either case the total surplus is less than if there were no "smart"
players. But with some game parameters, only the latter is an equilibria,
in which case "smart" players actually end up worse off than "normal"
players. (Note that even when the first outcome is an equlibrium, it is
not coalition-proof. I.e., the "normal" players have an incentive to
collectively switch to strategy B.)
For example, consider the above payoffs again. When a "normal" player
faces a "smart" player, he knows there is .5 probability that the "smart"
player will defect. If he deviates from strategy A to play "defect", there
is .5 probability that he gains 10 utility, and .5 probability that he
gains 1 utility in the current round and loses no more than 2 utilities in
each future round. Therefore depending on the time discount factor he may
have an incentive to play "defect".

s*e2013-03-13 07:03

4 楼

我律师的assistant说加州中心收到rfe非常common。

【在 k*******o 的大作中提到】

: 今天一查状态rfe了……说昨天寄出的notice
: wac/non-pp/公司不大，律师很负责
: 有个问题就是contract公司帮申请h1b 但是工作在一家大一些的公司。
: MS学的CS，现在工作是码工，感觉专业上问题不大，请大家帮看看可能是什么原因。还
: 有被rfe了的意思是不是离被拒不远了？

i*42013-03-13 07:03

5 楼

http://www.mitbbs.com/article/PennySaver/32422711_3.html

x*s2013-03-13 07:03

6 楼

没看正文，从标题看，显然这个“聪明人”只是聪明一级，更高级聪明人把正文分析的
也想到了，then play accordingly.

R*T2013-03-13 07:03

7 楼

我也被RFE了，昨晚update的。估计是公司太小的缘故..

【在 k*******o 的大作中提到】

d*82013-03-13 07:03

8 楼

你们眼尖啊
我刚看到

【在 i******4 的大作中提到】

: http://www.mitbbs.com/article/PennySaver/32422711_3.html

f*n2013-03-13 07:03

9 楼

其实讲的不过是囚徒困境罢了

l*02013-03-13 07:03

10 楼

我的也小，成立没有几年，在一家成立10多年下的附属公司差不多。也rfe了。

【在 R**T 的大作中提到】

: 我也被RFE了，昨晚update的。估计是公司太小的缘故..

r*62013-03-13 07:03

11 楼

CVS finally has COVERGIRL for BOGO. The BOGO coupons can be used now.
For those who want to do the P&G $12 refund and no RA, the COVERGIRL for
BOGO is really a good deal.

R*n2013-03-13 07:03

12 楼

应该没问题，补交要求的材料就行了。

i*42013-03-13 07:03

13 楼

no cpn...

【在 r*****6 的大作中提到】

: CVS finally has COVERGIRL for BOGO. The BOGO coupons can be used now.
: For those who want to do the P&G $12 refund and no RA, the COVERGIRL for
: BOGO is really a good deal.

k*o2013-03-13 07:03

14 楼

看来被rfe的也不少啊。我比较悲剧，OPT的时候就被rfe了。。现在又来一次，总是好
事多磨

r*62013-03-13 07:03

15 楼

qiu or buy from Ebay, hahh

【在 i******4 的大作中提到】

: no cpn...

s*e2013-03-13 07:03

16 楼

希望rfe的也都在版上update一下，
让我也有点信心就好了。

l*e2013-03-13 07:03

17 楼

这两个胖子能一起用吗？

【在 d********8 的大作中提到】

: http://ads.iheartcvs.com/2010/04/0509-0515.html
: U by Kotex终于也free了
: 有1off的mfc，之前还有1off的CVS胖子
: 大家玩好啊
: 我要回国度假了

J*n2013-03-13 07:03

18 楼

rfe +1
Sorry. cannot type chinese.
How about updating the reasons for those rfes. I am worried about it too.

s*x2013-03-13 07:03

19 楼

啥是P&G $12 refund？杂志那个？

【在 r*****6 的大作中提到】

: CVS finally has COVERGIRL for BOGO. The BOGO coupons can be used now.
: For those who want to do the P&G $12 refund and no RA, the COVERGIRL for
: BOGO is really a good deal.

s*e2013-03-13 07:03

20 楼

我是上周五(4/26)查状态被RFE的，
PP，加州中心，没有收到fax，
还在等hard copy。

【在 J*******n 的大作中提到】

: rfe +1
: Sorry. cannot type chinese.
: How about updating the reasons for those rfes. I am worried about it too.

D*g2013-03-13 07:03

21 楼

where is the BOGO coupon?

J*n2013-03-13 07:03

22 楼

So I will receive either fax or hard copy? My status changed to RFE this
morning.
==

【在 s*****e 的大作中提到】

: 我是上周五(4/26)查状态被RFE的，
: PP，加州中心，没有收到fax，
: 还在等hard copy。

s*n2013-03-13 07:03

23 楼

呃，之前把几张1off的打印胖子都用在绿强了，亏了

s*e2013-03-13 07:03

24 楼

是一定会收到hard copy的，
不过要等一到两周，
但是我听说PP的会收到fax，
你如果是PP，可以问问你律师啊？

【在 J*******n 的大作中提到】

: So I will receive either fax or hard copy? My status changed to RFE this
: morning.
: ==

k*n2013-03-13 07:03

25 楼

1off的CVS胖子在哪里找呀

【在 d********8 的大作中提到】

: http://ads.iheartcvs.com/2010/04/0509-0515.html
: U by Kotex终于也free了
: 有1off的mfc，之前还有1off的CVS胖子
: 大家玩好啊
: 我要回国度假了

J*n2013-03-13 07:03

26 楼

Forgot to say, I am non-pp to pp. VSC
Thanks I will ask my attorney.

【在 s*****e 的大作中提到】

: 是一定会收到hard copy的，
: 不过要等一到两周，
: 但是我听说PP的会收到fax，
: 你如果是PP，可以问问你律师啊？

r*62013-03-13 07:03

27 楼

是的，杂志那个

【在 s****x 的大作中提到】

: 啥是P&G $12 refund？杂志那个？

R*T2013-03-13 07:03

28 楼

还在等hard copy，知道原因了上来update一下
本人PhD，工作和专业不对口，公司还很小，估计麻烦了..

【在 R**T 的大作中提到】

: 我也被RFE了，昨晚update的。估计是公司太小的缘故..

x*n2013-03-13 07:03

29 楼

同问，怎么能拿到12refund 网上看到一个表格，但好像是给杂志的，谢谢

【在 r*****6 的大作中提到】

: CVS finally has COVERGIRL for BOGO. The BOGO coupons can be used now.
: For those who want to do the P&G $12 refund and no RA, the COVERGIRL for
: BOGO is really a good deal.

E*n2013-03-13 07:03

30 楼

RFE+1
can't think of a reason why
nothing to do but to wait patiently

【在 k*******o 的大作中提到】

h*u2013-03-13 07:03

31 楼

那个页面最下面，有一大堆小字废话里面写了如果你不要杂志就给钱
呵呵

【在 x*****n 的大作中提到】

: 同问，怎么能拿到12refund 网上看到一个表格，但好像是给杂志的，谢谢

s*e2013-03-13 07:03

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要不要发一个专门大家用来更新RFE信息的帖呢？
互相通知一些信息总是有帮助吧。。。

l*n2013-03-13 07:03

33 楼

我也想问问cvs 的1off coupon是不是就是在cvs网站上打印的？~

J*n2013-03-13 07:03

34 楼

ding

【在 s*****e 的大作中提到】

: 要不要发一个专门大家用来更新RFE信息的帖呢？
: 互相通知一些信息总是有帮助吧。。。

m*n2013-03-13 07:03

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是的，不过这个能和mfc合用？

【在 l**n 的大作中提到】

: 我也想问问cvs 的1off coupon是不是就是在cvs网站上打印的？~

i*r2013-03-13 07:03

36 楼

bless
希望可以一切顺利

【在 R**T 的大作中提到】

: 还在等hard copy，知道原因了上来update一下
: 本人PhD，工作和专业不对口，公司还很小，估计麻烦了..

x*n2013-03-13 07:03

37 楼

thx!!!

【在 h*********u 的大作中提到】

: 那个页面最下面，有一大堆小字废话里面写了如果你不要杂志就给钱
: 呵呵

c*92013-03-13 07:03

38 楼

ding
前天刚转成pp 今天就rfe了哭我是ca adv
工作应该是很对口的就是公司太小了不知道会要什么材料。。。。

【在 s*****e 的大作中提到】

: 要不要发一个专门大家用来更新RFE信息的帖呢？
: 互相通知一些信息总是有帮助吧。。。

s*e2013-03-13 07:03

39 楼

我开了一个帖专门更新和讨论RFE的，
大家都去更新一下吧，
互相看看都有什么消息。

R*T2013-03-13 07:03

40 楼

Thx :)

【在 i***r 的大作中提到】

: bless
: 希望可以一切顺利

m*i2013-03-13 07:03

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刚刚收到短信，VSC，被rfe了！有消息再给大家update。求bless！

【在 k*******o 的大作中提到】

s*i2013-03-13 07:03

42 楼

Me too. NON-PP Adv. VSC.

h*o2013-03-13 07:03

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【在 m********i 的大作中提到】

: 刚刚收到短信，VSC，被rfe了！有消息再给大家update。求bless！

h*o2013-03-13 07:03

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But the hard copy will be maile to the lawyer or employer or emloyee?
My receipt notice was mailed to the lawyer, so I guess maybe every thing
related to H1b will be mailed to the lawyer, right?

【在 s*****e 的大作中提到】

: 我律师的assistant说加州中心收到rfe非常common。

s*e2013-03-13 07:03

45 楼

对，是发给lawyer的。
我自己什么都没收到。

【在 h******o 的大作中提到】

: But the hard copy will be maile to the lawyer or employer or emloyee?
: My receipt notice was mailed to the lawyer, so I guess maybe every thing
: related to H1b will be mailed to the lawyer, right?