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发信人: onetiemyshoe (onetiemyshoe), 信区: SanFrancisco
标 题: 微软员工可加入Washtech (转载)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Jul 13 09:23:19 2014, 美东)
发信人: Roseleaf929 (RL), 信区: Seattle
标 题: 微软原来才是烙印的大根据地
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Jul 12 23:54:21 2014, 美东)
一个一个ICC在微软身上插管吸血，大的Infosys就不说了，TATA,HCL项目大把大把地拿
,更有些中小型的仅Mindtree在Azure下面就有300多VENDOR.
微软绝对是ICC的大根据地！！！
--------------------------我的评论： --------------------------------
这篇文章点名TCS(Tata),微软和一个华盛顿
地区的IT工人组织（washtech）。 请微软同胞联合！
我猜烙印CEO可能大规模外包，扶正烙印
合同工，同时砍老美的工作。 微软IT工
要抓住所有烙印合同公司的违法违规的行为，
围魏救赵来救微软。
有人说：“Chinasoft也有合同"。 这不一样。
Infosys, Tata, Cognizant,HCL这些公司
滥用H1B签证已经激起民愤。 受害者连
几个军都有了。Chinasoft算老几？还有
中国巨大的IT市场，老美也不是不想赚钱，
老美就是不喜欢有神经寄生虫而已。
这是可以理解的。也是要支持的。
请来ITRELIEF俱乐部来看文：
http://www.mitbbs.com/club_bbsdoc/ITRelief.html
微软裁员谣言：围魏救赵 (转载)
http://www.mitbbs.com/clubarticle_t/ITRelief/31119895.html
------------------------------------------------------- Washtech
http://www.npr.org/blogs/alltechconsidered/2013/04/03/176134694
The biggest user of H-1B last year was Cognizant, a firm based in New Jersey
. The company got 9,000 new visas. Following close behind were Infosys,
Wipro and Tata ‑‑ all Indian firms. They're not household names,
but they loom large in tech places like the Seattle suburbs.
Cutting Costs
Rennie Sawade, a software designer with 30 years of experience, grew up in
Michigan — watching the decline of the auto industry. And so, he went into
computers in search of a more secure career. But that's not how it turned
out.
"Basically, what I see is, it's happening all over again," Sawade says.
Programmers like him tend to be freelancers, or contract workers, and the
big consulting firms are the competition. Sawade remembers when he almost
landed a plum job at Microsoft.
"I remember having phone interviews and talking with the manager, having him
sound really excited about my experience and he was going to bring me in to
meet the team," Sawade recalls.
And then: nothing. He called his own placement agency to find out what
happened.
"And that's when they told me, 'Oh, they hired somebody from Tata
Consultancy.' And they actually told me on the phone, the woman I was
talking to said her jaw just dropped when they found out how little
Microsoft was paying this person from Tata Consultancy to do this job," he
says.
Not Being Replaced, 'Not Right Away'
Sawade is active in the labor organization , so he gets complaints from IT
workers around the country. The H-1B consultancies are especially big in
banking, insurance and pretty much any industry that runs on big computer
systems maintained by aging, increasingly expensive American tech workers.
He laughs at the notion that a cost-cutting insurance company somewhere is
in dire need of hotshot foreign programmers with specialized skills. Because
the businesses require current employees to train the new hires from India,
he says.
"And maybe the people from India aren't necessarily there to replace them —
at least not right away. They're just learning the job," Sawade says.
Learning the job, he says, so the consulting firm can eventually provide the
same service from somewhere cheaper.
发信人: onetiemyshoe (onetiemyshoe), 信区: SanFrancisco
标 题: 微软员工可加入Washtech (转载)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Jul 13 09:23:19 2014, 美东)
发信人: Roseleaf929 (RL), 信区: Seattle
标 题: 微软原来才是烙印的大根据地
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Jul 12 23:54:21 2014, 美东)
一个一个ICC在微软身上插管吸血，大的Infosys就不说了，TATA,HCL项目大把大把地拿
,更有些中小型的仅Mindtree在Azure下面就有300多VENDOR.
微软绝对是ICC的大根据地！！！
--------------------------我的评论： --------------------------------
这篇文章点名TCS(Tata),微软和一个华盛顿
地区的IT工人组织（washtech）。 请微软同胞联合！
我猜烙印CEO可能大规模外包，扶正烙印
合同工，同时砍老美的工作。 微软IT工
要抓住所有烙印合同公司的违法违规的行为，
围魏救赵来救微软。
有人说：“Chinasoft也有合同"。 这不一样。
Infosys, Tata, Cognizant,HCL这些公司
滥用H1B签证已经激起民愤。 受害者连
几个军都有了。Chinasoft算老几？还有
中国巨大的IT市场，老美也不是不想赚钱，
老美就是不喜欢有神经寄生虫而已。
这是可以理解的。也是要支持的。
请来ITRELIEF俱乐部来看文：
http://www.mitbbs.com/club_bbsdoc/ITRelief.html
微软裁员谣言：围魏救赵 (转载)
http://www.mitbbs.com/clubarticle_t/ITRelief/31119895.html
------------------------------------------------------- Washtech
http://www.npr.org/blogs/alltechconsidered/2013/04/03/176134694
The biggest user of H-1B last year was Cognizant, a firm based in New Jersey
. The company got 9,000 new visas. Following close behind were Infosys,
Wipro and Tata ‑‑ all Indian firms. They're not household names,
but they loom large in tech places like the Seattle suburbs.
Cutting Costs
Rennie Sawade, a software designer with 30 years of experience, grew up in
Michigan — watching the decline of the auto industry. And so, he went into
computers in search of a more secure career. But that's not how it turned
out.
"Basically, what I see is, it's happening all over again," Sawade says.
Programmers like him tend to be freelancers, or contract workers, and the
big consulting firms are the competition. Sawade remembers when he almost
landed a plum job at Microsoft.
"I remember having phone interviews and talking with the manager, having him
sound really excited about my experience and he was going to bring me in to
meet the team," Sawade recalls.
And then: nothing. He called his own placement agency to find out what
happened.
"And that's when they told me, 'Oh, they hired somebody from Tata
Consultancy.' And they actually told me on the phone, the woman I was
talking to said her jaw just dropped when they found out how little
Microsoft was paying this person from Tata Consultancy to do this job," he
says.
Not Being Replaced, 'Not Right Away'
Sawade is active in the labor organization , so he gets complaints from IT
workers around the country. The H-1B consultancies are especially big in
banking, insurance and pretty much any industry that runs on big computer
systems maintained by aging, increasingly expensive American tech workers.
He laughs at the notion that a cost-cutting insurance company somewhere is
in dire need of hotshot foreign programmers with specialized skills. Because
the businesses require current employees to train the new hires from India,
he says.
"And maybe the people from India aren't necessarily there to replace them —
at least not right away. They're just learning the job," Sawade says.
Learning the job, he says, so the consulting firm can eventually provide the
same service from somewhere cheaper.
