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发信人: woodheadvt (木头), 信区: WaterWorld
标 题: 刚刚去了上海/ 武汉/台湾谈谈国内的物价。。。
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Dec 8 05:23:18 2010, 美东)
刚转了一圈回国来。。。感受：
国内空气污染严重， 交通混乱。。到处都在大兴土木。。
台湾感觉就像中国的中小城镇。。台北稍微好点儿。。 不过比起上海来，台北只能算
小儿科。。 按当地TAXI DRIVEr的说法。。 以前瞧不起大陆客，， 现在甩大把钞票
的都是大陆来的。。。
上海物价奇贵。。。 有钱的爆发户逼近是少数。。
从住房，穿衣，汽车，电器，运动鞋到水果/蔬菜/肉蛋/牛奶/海鲜和日用品, 。。。
中国大城市的价格绝对不少与或者多于美国。。。
平均收入应该中国比美国少50% 以上吧。。。
现在RMB外升内贬...
真的很难想象一般的工薪族如何HANDDLE。。。
美国还有商店促销，COUPN， REBATE， GIFTCARD， REWARD 可以搞。。。
基本上以后国内来美国最好的就啥都别带，买两个大箱子东西回国。。。
BTW， 国内同样QUALITY配镜绝对不比美国便宜。。。
BTW国内IPHONE绝对比美国贵10-20%，， 不信你去买一个就知道了。。。
标的价格排队都到明年去了，根本买不到。。。
BTW， 上海，北京的房子绝对比美国贵。。
(3-4WRMB/m2 in beijing 1-2w/m2 in Wuhan for a good location)
这个月STAPLE有ＦＲＥＥ ＡＦＴＥＲ ＲＥＷＡＲＤ的电池。。。有DEAL可以搞。。
国内有比这便宜的吗?
Note: 这个电池的回贴是针对前一 贴子说美国电池贵而讲的...
this month till From 11/25 till dec. 25 something, u can get two free
pack of 24
Durell battery free from staples after rewards. ( limit 2 each week)
(so u can get 24*5*2=240 free batterys per account)
就这样而言。。 现在在美国绝对享受着比国内更优越的物价和环境。。
当然，国内的机会多， 市场潜力巨大，商机无限。。。。 BUSINESS做起来起来很快。。
过平稳日子拿PAYCHECK，留在美国。。 干事业，去中国。。
顺便批一下误导论题：
#1：收入： 美国人均工资四，五千美金一个月
应该是每户税后4k-5k。。 at least for chinese family... 4k-5k after tax is
almost the bottom line.
#2：房子：北京上海的房子比美国贵
There is no double about it.
加州硅谷：一套SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE San Jose (CA) about 500-700K at this
time
Low interest rate of 4.25-4.35% 30 year fixed.
In Beijing/ Shanghai 3w-4w RMB/squre meters.
For typical SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE 200m2, 400-600W RMB EASILY. 这还是毛房
价。。
and you only own the house usage for 70 Years!!!
And you can only able to get a variable interest rate of 5%+
property tax in CA is about 1.1%-1.3%
we do not factor that in since you always get ur properly tax back by
tax deduction... where do u get tax deduction from china?
once Chinese government start to charge property tax.. that's the time
Chinese housing market start to crush..
3% more likely in TX. that's one reason why TX house is cheaper.
#3 车和交通：美国车极其便宜，且没过路费
There is no double about it.
Take an example Toyota Camry cost less than 20k In US.
Cost at least 30w RMB in CHina. Tax rate is about 200%
In china , every driver is complain about high cost of maintaining
the vehicle and most people can not even afford a full insurance
coverage. In US, the cost for vehicle is lower. My cost for two car
is only less than 1.2k In CA per year. Repair cost should mostly
covered by insurance and that rarely happen in last 3 years.
BTW, US have the lowest Gas cost in the world.
Yes, Taxi is more expensive in US.. but hey.. 99% just drive own car
or rent a car...
#4：通讯：iPhone 299美元，手机免费拿
iphone 4 is 199 with contract, u can get 149 with promotions and get
activation fee waved.
If you don't bother use iphone, u can get much better cellphone deals.
Most of the case, you buy the phone because you need to use the service.
I have four line from T mobile for only less than 85 bucks a month with
data plan.
通讯 is actually cheaper in US if you need unlimited data and talk more
in weekends and nights. But device is definitely cheaper in US.
Dialing in US long distance is always included in all plans..
#5 上学：免费教育
Most people just send their kids to public schools... <95%
只要找个好点点的学区。。。 这个一点问题都没有。 国内学校的苛捐杂费和文具钱加起来
比美国多多了。。。 上FREE PUBLIC 学校和毕业后考名校一点冲突都没有。。
#6 吃饭便宜
至能说美国吃快餐便宜。， 至少你去风景区和在CITY里连锁店价格差别不大。。
中国便宜的小餐馆。。 你敢随便放心吃吗。。？
。。 好的餐馆哪里都不便宜。。
美国一个人 $25-35 应该就比较DECENT的MEAL了。。。
#7 美国电器便宜。。。花妆品，包包， 香水， 衬衣，运动鞋，
这个还用讨论吗。。？
看看EBIZ版收的电器和IPHONE/IPAD/PRINTER/LAPTOP/KINDLE 都被倒到哪里去了。。。
同样品质的东西。。 即使是国产的，到美国的卖价也比国内便宜。。
发信人: woodheadvt (木头), 信区: WaterWorld
标 题: 刚刚去了上海/ 武汉/台湾谈谈国内的物价。。。
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Dec 8 05:23:18 2010, 美东)
刚转了一圈回国来。。。感受：
国内空气污染严重， 交通混乱。。到处都在大兴土木。。
台湾感觉就像中国的中小城镇。。台北稍微好点儿。。 不过比起上海来，台北只能算
小儿科。。 按当地TAXI DRIVEr的说法。。 以前瞧不起大陆客，， 现在甩大把钞票
的都是大陆来的。。。
上海物价奇贵。。。 有钱的爆发户逼近是少数。。
从住房，穿衣，汽车，电器，运动鞋到水果/蔬菜/肉蛋/牛奶/海鲜和日用品, 。。。
中国大城市的价格绝对不少与或者多于美国。。。
平均收入应该中国比美国少50% 以上吧。。。
现在RMB外升内贬...
真的很难想象一般的工薪族如何HANDDLE。。。
美国还有商店促销，COUPN， REBATE， GIFTCARD， REWARD 可以搞。。。
基本上以后国内来美国最好的就啥都别带，买两个大箱子东西回国。。。
BTW， 国内同样QUALITY配镜绝对不比美国便宜。。。
BTW国内IPHONE绝对比美国贵10-20%，， 不信你去买一个就知道了。。。
标的价格排队都到明年去了，根本买不到。。。
BTW， 上海，北京的房子绝对比美国贵。。
(3-4WRMB/m2 in beijing 1-2w/m2 in Wuhan for a good location)
这个月STAPLE有ＦＲＥＥ ＡＦＴＥＲ ＲＥＷＡＲＤ的电池。。。有DEAL可以搞。。
国内有比这便宜的吗?
Note: 这个电池的回贴是针对前一 贴子说美国电池贵而讲的...
this month till From 11/25 till dec. 25 something, u can get two free
pack of 24
Durell battery free from staples after rewards. ( limit 2 each week)
(so u can get 24*5*2=240 free batterys per account)
就这样而言。。 现在在美国绝对享受着比国内更优越的物价和环境。。
当然，国内的机会多， 市场潜力巨大，商机无限。。。。 BUSINESS做起来起来很快。。
过平稳日子拿PAYCHECK，留在美国。。 干事业，去中国。。
顺便批一下误导论题：
#1：收入： 美国人均工资四，五千美金一个月
应该是每户税后4k-5k。。 at least for chinese family... 4k-5k after tax is
almost the bottom line.
#2：房子：北京上海的房子比美国贵
There is no double about it.
加州硅谷：一套SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE San Jose (CA) about 500-700K at this
time
Low interest rate of 4.25-4.35% 30 year fixed.
In Beijing/ Shanghai 3w-4w RMB/squre meters.
For typical SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE 200m2, 400-600W RMB EASILY. 这还是毛房
价。。
and you only own the house usage for 70 Years!!!
And you can only able to get a variable interest rate of 5%+
property tax in CA is about 1.1%-1.3%
we do not factor that in since you always get ur properly tax back by
tax deduction... where do u get tax deduction from china?
once Chinese government start to charge property tax.. that's the time
Chinese housing market start to crush..
3% more likely in TX. that's one reason why TX house is cheaper.
#3 车和交通：美国车极其便宜，且没过路费
There is no double about it.
Take an example Toyota Camry cost less than 20k In US.
Cost at least 30w RMB in CHina. Tax rate is about 200%
In china , every driver is complain about high cost of maintaining
the vehicle and most people can not even afford a full insurance
coverage. In US, the cost for vehicle is lower. My cost for two car
is only less than 1.2k In CA per year. Repair cost should mostly
covered by insurance and that rarely happen in last 3 years.
BTW, US have the lowest Gas cost in the world.
Yes, Taxi is more expensive in US.. but hey.. 99% just drive own car
or rent a car...
#4：通讯：iPhone 299美元，手机免费拿
iphone 4 is 199 with contract, u can get 149 with promotions and get
activation fee waved.
If you don't bother use iphone, u can get much better cellphone deals.
Most of the case, you buy the phone because you need to use the service.
I have four line from T mobile for only less than 85 bucks a month with
data plan.
通讯 is actually cheaper in US if you need unlimited data and talk more
in weekends and nights. But device is definitely cheaper in US.
Dialing in US long distance is always included in all plans..
#5 上学：免费教育
Most people just send their kids to public schools... <95%
只要找个好点点的学区。。。 这个一点问题都没有。 国内学校的苛捐杂费和文具钱加起来
比美国多多了。。。 上FREE PUBLIC 学校和毕业后考名校一点冲突都没有。。
#6 吃饭便宜
至能说美国吃快餐便宜。， 至少你去风景区和在CITY里连锁店价格差别不大。。
中国便宜的小餐馆。。 你敢随便放心吃吗。。？
。。 好的餐馆哪里都不便宜。。
美国一个人 $25-35 应该就比较DECENT的MEAL了。。。
#7 美国电器便宜。。。花妆品，包包， 香水， 衬衣，运动鞋，
这个还用讨论吗。。？
看看EBIZ版收的电器和IPHONE/IPAD/PRINTER/LAPTOP/KINDLE 都被倒到哪里去了。。。
同样品质的东西。。 即使是国产的，到美国的卖价也比国内便宜。。
