M*n
2 楼
【 以下文字转载自 Dreamer 讨论区 】
发信人: Dreamer (不要问我从哪里来), 信区: Dreamer
标 题: Re: 难道你们撸管都不戴套？
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Sep 5 13:43:50 2015, 美东)
黄瓜香蕉都可以戴套啊，这样还更干净，应该鼓励
发信人: Dreamer (不要问我从哪里来), 信区: Dreamer
标 题: Re: 难道你们撸管都不戴套？
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Sep 5 13:43:50 2015, 美东)
黄瓜香蕉都可以戴套啊，这样还更干净，应该鼓励
w*s
3 楼
emini is almost 24/7
【在 S****n 的大作中提到】
: 如果24/7估计很好玩
【在 S****n 的大作中提到】
: 如果24/7估计很好玩
r*m
4 楼
我觉得其实周六交易半天就可以了。
s*r
5 楼
以前早有人提过要让有些ECN24小时开通，为何办不到？或者有啥大弊？？
【在 w******s 的大作中提到】
: emini is almost 24/7
【在 w******s 的大作中提到】
: emini is almost 24/7
m*1
6 楼
我不认为，劳逸结合很重要，要是天天搞我肯定腻烦了。
r*t
7 楼
因为MM要睡觉。
s*r
8 楼
ECN要啥MM？
【在 r*****t 的大作中提到】
: 因为MM要睡觉。
【在 r*****t 的大作中提到】
: 因为MM要睡觉。
t*n
9 楼
估计会弄出更多神经病
【在 S****n 的大作中提到】
: 如果24/7估计很好玩
【在 S****n 的大作中提到】
: 如果24/7估计很好玩
s*r
10 楼
I am gonna push for a straight answer tonight before I hit the hay. This
question has been haunting me for a pretty long while. and I searched
everywhere and I have no where to turn to. I will deeply appreciate anyone
here could provide a reasonable explanation.
Many years ago there were hearsay that some ECNs, esp. ARCA and ISLANDS,
will be on almost 24 hours during the weekdays. However, it keeps staying as
a hearsay and looks like most people seem to totally forget about it
already.
What are the major reasons to this inapplicability????
Anyone, Please???
question has been haunting me for a pretty long while. and I searched
everywhere and I have no where to turn to. I will deeply appreciate anyone
here could provide a reasonable explanation.
Many years ago there were hearsay that some ECNs, esp. ARCA and ISLANDS,
will be on almost 24 hours during the weekdays. However, it keeps staying as
a hearsay and looks like most people seem to totally forget about it
already.
What are the major reasons to this inapplicability????
Anyone, Please???
s*l
11 楼
因为那样的话就没有close price了
s*r
12 楼
Well, there will still be transactions @4 and 9:30, prices of which for
securities could still be taken as close and open prices.
【在 s****l 的大作中提到】
: 因为那样的话就没有close price了
securities could still be taken as close and open prices.
【在 s****l 的大作中提到】
: 因为那样的话就没有close price了
r*t
13 楼
跟你说过了，MM要睡觉。
你想绕开MM，花街怎么赚钱？
花街不会让你们小青蛙们自己交易的。因为青蛙肉是属于花街自己的。
你半夜里几个中国大家伙自己想做MM，也玩弄套青蛙的游戏？
那那里行啊。
你想绕开MM，花街怎么赚钱？
花街不会让你们小青蛙们自己交易的。因为青蛙肉是属于花街自己的。
你半夜里几个中国大家伙自己想做MM，也玩弄套青蛙的游戏？
那那里行啊。
s*r
14 楼
No, my friend, it does not make sense to me at all.
It is like you are gonna have a 24 hour flea market where whoever wanna buy
or sell to pay for the ask or bid, why do MMs have to be dragged in?
Besides, Forex, Futures are all tradable overnight on ECNs, why the
discrepancy?
【在 r*****t 的大作中提到】
: 跟你说过了，MM要睡觉。
: 你想绕开MM，花街怎么赚钱？
: 花街不会让你们小青蛙们自己交易的。因为青蛙肉是属于花街自己的。
: 你半夜里几个中国大家伙自己想做MM，也玩弄套青蛙的游戏？
: 那那里行啊。
It is like you are gonna have a 24 hour flea market where whoever wanna buy
or sell to pay for the ask or bid, why do MMs have to be dragged in?
Besides, Forex, Futures are all tradable overnight on ECNs, why the
discrepancy?
【在 r*****t 的大作中提到】
: 跟你说过了，MM要睡觉。
: 你想绕开MM，花街怎么赚钱？
: 花街不会让你们小青蛙们自己交易的。因为青蛙肉是属于花街自己的。
: 你半夜里几个中国大家伙自己想做MM，也玩弄套青蛙的游戏？
: 那那里行啊。
s*r
15 楼
The major function of Market Makers is to provide liquidity to the market.
Hence, all brokers will warn their clients no matter institutions or
individuals about the greater risks in extended trading periods, the reasons
of which is the absence of MMs in those periods, of course, MM could and
often participate in the extended hour trades.
The point is after 8pm, suppose all Wall Street hooligans no longer post any
bid or ask, as long as there is a party willing to do trades with another,
why the fuck not?
【在 r*****t 的大作中提到】
: 跟你说过了，MM要睡觉。
: 你想绕开MM，花街怎么赚钱？
: 花街不会让你们小青蛙们自己交易的。因为青蛙肉是属于花街自己的。
: 你半夜里几个中国大家伙自己想做MM，也玩弄套青蛙的游戏？
: 那那里行啊。
Hence, all brokers will warn their clients no matter institutions or
individuals about the greater risks in extended trading periods, the reasons
of which is the absence of MMs in those periods, of course, MM could and
often participate in the extended hour trades.
The point is after 8pm, suppose all Wall Street hooligans no longer post any
bid or ask, as long as there is a party willing to do trades with another,
why the fuck not?
【在 r*****t 的大作中提到】
: 跟你说过了，MM要睡觉。
: 你想绕开MM，花街怎么赚钱？
: 花街不会让你们小青蛙们自己交易的。因为青蛙肉是属于花街自己的。
: 你半夜里几个中国大家伙自己想做MM，也玩弄套青蛙的游戏？
: 那那里行啊。
s*r
16 楼
There are numerous times for my after hour trades of WMT that my sell order
were filled 50 cents higher the close prices around 4:05pm, I guess it does
not happen very often. And the point is without MMs' participation after 8pm
, I will still love to sell them at such nice bids as long as there are
someone who desperate to buy them.
【在 r*****t 的大作中提到】
: 跟你说过了，MM要睡觉。
: 你想绕开MM，花街怎么赚钱？
: 花街不会让你们小青蛙们自己交易的。因为青蛙肉是属于花街自己的。
: 你半夜里几个中国大家伙自己想做MM，也玩弄套青蛙的游戏？
: 那那里行啊。
were filled 50 cents higher the close prices around 4:05pm, I guess it does
not happen very often. And the point is without MMs' participation after 8pm
, I will still love to sell them at such nice bids as long as there are
someone who desperate to buy them.
【在 r*****t 的大作中提到】
: 跟你说过了，MM要睡觉。
: 你想绕开MM，花街怎么赚钱？
: 花街不会让你们小青蛙们自己交易的。因为青蛙肉是属于花街自己的。
: 你半夜里几个中国大家伙自己想做MM，也玩弄套青蛙的游戏？
: 那那里行啊。
r*t
17 楼
青蛙只有一块肉，给了别的吃就不能给花街享用了。
晚上割肉的青蛙，你指望他清早会继续买吗？
青蛙会舔伤口去了。
所以，花街不会让青蛙给晚上的别的可能的MM吃掉的。
你说的flea market那是理想情况，事实是，只要花街MM不参与。
别的大一点的阿三就会自己做MM，吃晚上的青蛙肉。
这个时候花街的MM就只好不睡觉的把流氓阿三假货MM赶走了。
MM不愿意的，MM要打炮。没空。
另外至于期货和forex，那是历史原因，MM不愿意再这样做了。太累。
晚上割肉的青蛙，你指望他清早会继续买吗？
青蛙会舔伤口去了。
所以，花街不会让青蛙给晚上的别的可能的MM吃掉的。
你说的flea market那是理想情况，事实是，只要花街MM不参与。
别的大一点的阿三就会自己做MM，吃晚上的青蛙肉。
这个时候花街的MM就只好不睡觉的把流氓阿三假货MM赶走了。
MM不愿意的，MM要打炮。没空。
另外至于期货和forex，那是历史原因，MM不愿意再这样做了。太累。
c*9
18 楼
too simple, sometimes native..
no 24/7 because there is no such demand, they need certain column to make
money.
no 24/7 because there is no such demand, they need certain column to make
money.
s*r
19 楼
It has nothing to do with cutting loss or taking profits.
And letting others do trades overnight will not eat away MMs' profits.
Let us do this example:
I have 100 share of BAC now and I just want to get rid of it now,
considering the market condition, I will post an ask @ 14.25, you, my friend
,does not have any position in it and just wanna start one and suppose you
are just too edgy to get my 100 shares, you put a bid of 14.05, well, our
bid and ask are just gonna hang in there until I am getting fed-up with ur
lower bid and lose patience, and I just fuck it and lower my ask to 14.05,
and the trade is consummated.
Now what does our trade have anything to do with the MMs?
【在 r*****t 的大作中提到】
: 青蛙只有一块肉，给了别的吃就不能给花街享用了。
: 晚上割肉的青蛙，你指望他清早会继续买吗？
: 青蛙会舔伤口去了。
: 所以，花街不会让青蛙给晚上的别的可能的MM吃掉的。
: 你说的flea market那是理想情况，事实是，只要花街MM不参与。
: 别的大一点的阿三就会自己做MM，吃晚上的青蛙肉。
: 这个时候花街的MM就只好不睡觉的把流氓阿三假货MM赶走了。
: MM不愿意的，MM要打炮。没空。
: 另外至于期货和forex，那是历史原因，MM不愿意再这样做了。太累。
And letting others do trades overnight will not eat away MMs' profits.
Let us do this example:
I have 100 share of BAC now and I just want to get rid of it now,
considering the market condition, I will post an ask @ 14.25, you, my friend
,does not have any position in it and just wanna start one and suppose you
are just too edgy to get my 100 shares, you put a bid of 14.05, well, our
bid and ask are just gonna hang in there until I am getting fed-up with ur
lower bid and lose patience, and I just fuck it and lower my ask to 14.05,
and the trade is consummated.
Now what does our trade have anything to do with the MMs?
【在 r*****t 的大作中提到】
: 青蛙只有一块肉，给了别的吃就不能给花街享用了。
: 晚上割肉的青蛙，你指望他清早会继续买吗？
: 青蛙会舔伤口去了。
: 所以，花街不会让青蛙给晚上的别的可能的MM吃掉的。
: 你说的flea market那是理想情况，事实是，只要花街MM不参与。
: 别的大一点的阿三就会自己做MM，吃晚上的青蛙肉。
: 这个时候花街的MM就只好不睡觉的把流氓阿三假货MM赶走了。
: MM不愿意的，MM要打炮。没空。
: 另外至于期货和forex，那是历史原因，MM不愿意再这样做了。太累。
s*r
20 楼
How does anyone know there will be lower demand? Many stocks in news could
be frequently traded. And I bet many people on this board would love to
trade overnight.
Besides, the cost of running an ECN will not be significant.
【在 c*******9 的大作中提到】
: too simple, sometimes native..
: no 24/7 because there is no such demand, they need certain column to make
: money.
be frequently traded. And I bet many people on this board would love to
trade overnight.
Besides, the cost of running an ECN will not be significant.
【在 c*******9 的大作中提到】
: too simple, sometimes native..
: no 24/7 because there is no such demand, they need certain column to make
: money.
s*r
21 楼
Some brokers do charge extra fees for extended hours trades and I suppose
they can still reasonably to charge even little bit for those overnight
trades if that's the issue. and I guess few people will care for those extra
pennies.
【在 c*******9 的大作中提到】
: too simple, sometimes native..
: no 24/7 because there is no such demand, they need certain column to make
: money.
they can still reasonably to charge even little bit for those overnight
trades if that's the issue. and I guess few people will care for those extra
pennies.
【在 c*******9 的大作中提到】
: too simple, sometimes native..
: no 24/7 because there is no such demand, they need certain column to make
: money.
a*n
22 楼
这都可以讨论。。。。。。股版的不上街真可惜了。。。
有一个法叫劳动法听过没有。。。
街上的估计也就小部分人甲亢，多数人要么被逼良为娼要么想着保命享福。。。
难倒还要三班倒。。。
【在 S****n 的大作中提到】
: 如果24/7估计很好玩
有一个法叫劳动法听过没有。。。
街上的估计也就小部分人甲亢，多数人要么被逼良为娼要么想着保命享福。。。
难倒还要三班倒。。。
【在 S****n 的大作中提到】
: 如果24/7估计很好玩
s*r
23 楼
Having perused your answer, I think it might make a bit sense.
Overnight trade demands will of course be extremely low comparing with
regular trade hours. However, with those popping up overnight news from
companies, especially foreign ones who issue ADRs in US, their stocks could
be heavily traded.
As for brokers, they could charge a bit extra more for fees.
And let us assume running ECN just cost tinily.
Well, what the heck, maybe it is a stupid question anyways.
【在 c*******9 的大作中提到】
: too simple, sometimes native..
: no 24/7 because there is no such demand, they need certain column to make
: money.
Overnight trade demands will of course be extremely low comparing with
regular trade hours. However, with those popping up overnight news from
companies, especially foreign ones who issue ADRs in US, their stocks could
be heavily traded.
As for brokers, they could charge a bit extra more for fees.
And let us assume running ECN just cost tinily.
Well, what the heck, maybe it is a stupid question anyways.
【在 c*******9 的大作中提到】
: too simple, sometimes native..
: no 24/7 because there is no such demand, they need certain column to make
: money.
a*n
24 楼
现在可是全球化电子交易。。。天朝股民要是美国晚上炒美股需求不会小的。。。
问题是，谁愿意值夜班，能拿多少钱。。。
could
【在 s*****r 的大作中提到】
: Having perused your answer, I think it might make a bit sense.
: Overnight trade demands will of course be extremely low comparing with
: regular trade hours. However, with those popping up overnight news from
: companies, especially foreign ones who issue ADRs in US, their stocks could
: be heavily traded.
: As for brokers, they could charge a bit extra more for fees.
: And let us assume running ECN just cost tinily.
: Well, what the heck, maybe it is a stupid question anyways.
问题是，谁愿意值夜班，能拿多少钱。。。
could
【在 s*****r 的大作中提到】
: Having perused your answer, I think it might make a bit sense.
: Overnight trade demands will of course be extremely low comparing with
: regular trade hours. However, with those popping up overnight news from
: companies, especially foreign ones who issue ADRs in US, their stocks could
: be heavily traded.
: As for brokers, they could charge a bit extra more for fees.
: And let us assume running ECN just cost tinily.
: Well, what the heck, maybe it is a stupid question anyways.
s*r
25 楼
Excuse our ignorance first.
Can you show me the regulation link?
What about Forex, Futures?
Since it is voluntary, everyone has the right not to participate, what law
to break?
【在 a*******n 的大作中提到】
: 这都可以讨论。。。。。。股版的不上街真可惜了。。。
: 有一个法叫劳动法听过没有。。。
: 街上的估计也就小部分人甲亢，多数人要么被逼良为娼要么想着保命享福。。。
: 难倒还要三班倒。。。
Can you show me the regulation link?
What about Forex, Futures?
Since it is voluntary, everyone has the right not to participate, what law
to break?
【在 a*******n 的大作中提到】
: 这都可以讨论。。。。。。股版的不上街真可惜了。。。
: 有一个法叫劳动法听过没有。。。
: 街上的估计也就小部分人甲亢，多数人要么被逼良为娼要么想着保命享福。。。
: 难倒还要三班倒。。。
s*r
26 楼
I would love to and I do not have to be paid handsomely.
Besides, why the need of graveyard jobs since we are talking about ECNs.?
【在 a*******n 的大作中提到】
: 现在可是全球化电子交易。。。天朝股民要是美国晚上炒美股需求不会小的。。。
: 问题是，谁愿意值夜班，能拿多少钱。。。
:
: could
Besides, why the need of graveyard jobs since we are talking about ECNs.?
【在 a*******n 的大作中提到】
: 现在可是全球化电子交易。。。天朝股民要是美国晚上炒美股需求不会小的。。。
: 问题是，谁愿意值夜班，能拿多少钱。。。
:
: could
s*r
27 楼
fuck it, sleep le.
【在 S****n 的大作中提到】
: 如果24/7估计很好玩
【在 S****n 的大作中提到】
: 如果24/7估计很好玩
a*n
28 楼
在美国做外汇要想覆盖全球基本只能好睡4个小时左右。。。而且工作地点最好选在美
国西海岸。。。
这么苦的差事。。。
难道真要赚钱转到神经衰弱。。。
【在 s*****r 的大作中提到】
: Excuse our ignorance first.
: Can you show me the regulation link?
: What about Forex, Futures?
: Since it is voluntary, everyone has the right not to participate, what law
: to break?
国西海岸。。。
这么苦的差事。。。
难道真要赚钱转到神经衰弱。。。
【在 s*****r 的大作中提到】
: Excuse our ignorance first.
: Can you show me the regulation link?
: What about Forex, Futures?
: Since it is voluntary, everyone has the right not to participate, what law
: to break?
c*9
29 楼
too simple, sometimes native..
no 24/7 because there is no such demand, they need certain column to make
money.
no 24/7 because there is no such demand, they need certain column to make
money.
s*r
30 楼
Thanx for your input, Milady, however, I do not think you have a clue. And I
guess you are just like me--DO NOT KNOW SHIT!!!
【在 a*******n 的大作中提到】
: 这都可以讨论。。。。。。股版的不上街真可惜了。。。
: 有一个法叫劳动法听过没有。。。
: 街上的估计也就小部分人甲亢，多数人要么被逼良为娼要么想着保命享福。。。
: 难倒还要三班倒。。。
guess you are just like me--DO NOT KNOW SHIT!!!
【在 a*******n 的大作中提到】
: 这都可以讨论。。。。。。股版的不上街真可惜了。。。
: 有一个法叫劳动法听过没有。。。
: 街上的估计也就小部分人甲亢，多数人要么被逼良为娼要么想着保命享福。。。
: 难倒还要三班倒。。。
s*r
31 楼
Demand will be small, but DEMAND will always be there, there are always
people going to casinos anytime of the night trying to play like a" cool
hand luke".
【在 c*******9 的大作中提到】
: too simple, sometimes native..
: no 24/7 because there is no such demand, they need certain column to make
: money.
people going to casinos anytime of the night trying to play like a" cool
hand luke".
【在 c*******9 的大作中提到】
: too simple, sometimes native..
: no 24/7 because there is no such demand, they need certain column to make
: money.
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