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发信人: beijingren (to thine own self be true), 信区: Military
标 题: 美国人私下对中国工程师的评价
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Mar 9 09:19:12 2018, 美东)
A。 NoPension Fri, 03/09/2018 - 08:14
Here is the problem with the Chinese, based on my experience. They latch
onto a product or a process, designed by others. They copy the shit out of
it...in multiples. Then they crank up production. BUT....they don't
understand the underlying principles of why this is that way, or that is
this way. I've worked with a few Chink engineers. Very well educated. They
could modify plans, etc...on the laptop faster than a blink. But the had no
underlying knowledge of " why " the copied machine we were working on did
this or that. From my standpoint...they were fucking useless tools. ZEro
original thinking. There was no " depth " of knowledge. Hard to explain, but
I think it comes from stealing tech and process....and not developing it
organically.
I remember constantly thinking...I'd hate to be a Chinese astronaut.
So...they've got steel making overcapacity in spades,..and the product is
generally, compared to other advanced economies....junk.
B. fx Fri, 03/09/2018 - 08:47
That's my experience, too.
But the Chinese are getting better at rapid speed. It is a vital part of
their strategic master plan to send thousands upon thousands of Chinese
students abroad to gain the insights and knowledge to understand the
processes in all sorts of areas and not merely to copy them. 10-20 years
yout you will see a vast improvement in Chinese understanding of high tech
processes. Another twenty years out and China will be top notch and actually
leading in the development. Their proigress is absolutely stunning. Talk
about riding along a learning curve within a learning curve.
The Western world is asleep at the wheel and completely off-guard regarding
this strategic threat.
It does offer certain strategic advantages if you can control and direct
armies of people the way the Chinese can.
发信人: beijingren (to thine own self be true), 信区: Military
标 题: 美国人私下对中国工程师的评价
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Mar 9 09:19:12 2018, 美东)
A。 NoPension Fri, 03/09/2018 - 08:14
Here is the problem with the Chinese, based on my experience. They latch
onto a product or a process, designed by others. They copy the shit out of
it...in multiples. Then they crank up production. BUT....they don't
understand the underlying principles of why this is that way, or that is
this way. I've worked with a few Chink engineers. Very well educated. They
could modify plans, etc...on the laptop faster than a blink. But the had no
underlying knowledge of " why " the copied machine we were working on did
this or that. From my standpoint...they were fucking useless tools. ZEro
original thinking. There was no " depth " of knowledge. Hard to explain, but
I think it comes from stealing tech and process....and not developing it
organically.
I remember constantly thinking...I'd hate to be a Chinese astronaut.
So...they've got steel making overcapacity in spades,..and the product is
generally, compared to other advanced economies....junk.
B. fx Fri, 03/09/2018 - 08:47
That's my experience, too.
But the Chinese are getting better at rapid speed. It is a vital part of
their strategic master plan to send thousands upon thousands of Chinese
students abroad to gain the insights and knowledge to understand the
processes in all sorts of areas and not merely to copy them. 10-20 years
yout you will see a vast improvement in Chinese understanding of high tech
processes. Another twenty years out and China will be top notch and actually
leading in the development. Their proigress is absolutely stunning. Talk
about riding along a learning curve within a learning curve.
The Western world is asleep at the wheel and completely off-guard regarding
this strategic threat.
It does offer certain strategic advantages if you can control and direct
armies of people the way the Chinese can.
