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r*s
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不到你退出股市的那一天,钱永远不属于你的。2007年6月27日,我永远忘不了那一天
,当我无奈地选择出局000977这只票时,我知道我得暂别了我为了奋斗8年多的中国股
市,我输了,彻底的输了,输在了中国股市面上最火红的时刻,我为自己的贪婪付出了
代价。
从99年11月4日入市的那一天起,我一直小心翼翼地操作自己的股票,没有大起也
没有大落,从2000元起家炒到07年6月前的三十多万,也是对我股市能力的最好的一种
肯定。然而,短短的几天,就让我的一切毁于一旦。
是的,从2000元到三十多万,我用了8年的时间,中间还有4年多的熊市,在朋友的
心中,这是一个神话,正是这个神话,导致了我心态的失衡,我清晰的记得我写了一篇
文章《坚定自己的信念,保住这轮牛市的战果》,但我自己却没能做到这一点。因为我
在全仓工行时,有多少朋友为火红的行情所心动,他们有的不相信我全仓工行,有的耻
笑我全仓工行,最后一刻,我崩溃了,为了证明我自己的能力,我向朋友借了300万元
,此时中国股市已在历史的高点了。我的自信摧残了我所有的希望,当时我看中了
000977浪潮信息服务器销量增长了近50%,我就在9元多全仓介入了000977。
接下来的行情,000977没有让我失望,最高冲到了11.3元,眼前的行情蒙住了我的
双眼,此时的我,心态完全变了,6月20日11点多,那是我出局000977获利的最好时机
,我选择了放弃,豪赌000977,然而,在上班的我,周五根本就没有时间看盘,接下来
的事,是我一辈子也忘不了的,000977开始了他狂跌的历程,跌到8元多时,我朋友怕
我血本无归,要我马上还他钱,我只好在6月27日出局000977和我自己所有的股票,离
开了我相伴了8年多的中国股市。
那一夜,我失眠了,泪水经不住的流着,8年多的时间,从一个翩翩美少年到如今
的老男人,我对股市付出了太多太多,可就在这一刻,我什么也没有了,好象我从来没
有到过股市一样,我自己不得不相信我输了,我从一个神话跌到了另一个神话,这一天
,我成了一个穷光蛋。
泪水没能改变现实,却让我感受到了一种无情的市场冷意,我记下了生命的这一刻
,这一刻,也让我懂得了朋友的含义和社会的现实,这一刻,让我感受到了一种比市场
更冷的人情。
暂别了,中国股市,是你让我从无到有,也是你让我从有到无,我不怪你,只因生
命因你而更精彩。是你,让我懂得了经济的含义,是你让我懂得了中国经济的周期规律
,更让我懂得了对公司产品销售和成本控制的分析,腾飞已在我心中谱写好了曲子,我
想,这一天不会太远了。中国股市,我还会回来的,因为我已将你的性格搅入怀中,我
想你一定会让我步入富人俱乐部。
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d*f
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【 以下文字转载自 Faculty 讨论区 】
发信人: YangCN (老杨), 信区: Faculty
标 题: 自然杂志:No more first authors, no more last authors
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Oct 5 12:49:07 2018, 美东)
倡议:
If we really want transdisciplinary research, we must ditch the ordered
listing of authors that stalls collaborative science, says Gretchen L. Kiser.
全文:
Every academic scientist has heard a tale of someone being shafted on an
authorship list, or had it happen to them. Less appreciated is how much the
attribution of credit impedes cross-disciplinary approaches to difficult
questions. It creates a negative feedback loop that hinders research.
Most scientists agree that research questions and approaches have become
more complex, so the need to engage in expanded team science has increased.
I’ve found, however, that there is great reluctance among faculty members
to join such efforts. I find myself asking, ‘What if we completely blow up
the way in which we attribute authorship?’ I suspect that if we got rid of
first authors, last authors and the fight for asterisks, we might interrupt
the negative feedback loop and see more innovation.
Since 2012, I’ve led the Research Development Office at the University of
California, San Francisco (UCSF). One of our goals is to bring together
researchers of varying backgrounds to encourage innovative thinking and new
approaches. My team identifies and cajoles ‘champions’ to invite
colleagues to participate in team-building events. We offer financial and
logistical support; we bring in interesting speakers; we provide drinks and
food (and not just pizza!) — all to get scientists to talk to each other
about their research, needs and ambitions. But the resource that really
matters is not mine to dispense: credit for scientific contributions.
There are real successes: one of our ‘speed-networking’ events at UCSF
introduced neurologist Dena Dubal, who investigates the molecular mechanisms
of longevity and neurodegenerative disease, to psychologist Aric Prather,
who researches the effects of stress on health. That led to a project that
revealed an association between chronic psychological stress and lower
levels of a longevity hormone. They published that work and continue to
collaborate (A. A. Prather et al. Transl. Psychiatr. 5, e585; 2015).
Other teams we’ve helped have received follow-on support from external
funders such as the US National Institutes of Health. Surveys tell me that
faculty members enjoy our team-building events, even when they did not
expect to, and that they would recommend them to others.
Nevertheless, there seems to be an undeclared disincentive for researchers
to build unconventional collaborations. I get frustrated with the disconnect
between what we say about the need for transdisciplinary teams to solve
complex problems and the reluctance to try something new to build those
teams.
The assessment of publications during promotion and tenure decisions is a
big part of the problem. Although these processes often have some mechanism
to recognize a researcher’s team contributions, the culture remains largely
unchanged from 50 years ago. The gravitas associated with ‘first’ and ‘
senior’ authorship is entrenched. What about the middle author who might
have significantly altered the approach? Or the fourth-place author who
linked different disciplines? Often these researchers are left to find only
self-satisfaction.
Many journals now allow, and even require, statements that explain
contributors’ roles in their publications. Taxonomies and standardized
vocabularies for describing authors’ roles have been developed. Similarly,
promotion and tenure committees are using contribution narratives in their
assessments. These changes are helping. They capture a fuller spectrum of a
researcher’s productivity so that evaluators can consider more than where
someone sits in an author list.
Still, I’ve had senior faculty members tell me that, even though they look
at the contribution narratives, they still expect to see first-author and
then senior-author papers when assessing candidates.
Meanwhile, research projects are starting to incorporate data that no one on
the immediate team collected, and there are no settled conventions for
crediting outside researchers or incentivizing that valuable work.
We need a cultural shift to recognize and reward scientists who make their
work useful to others, including researchers who might never meet but whose
data are used. One way to make this happen is to get rid of ordered author
lists. By developing author contribution taxonomies and narratives, we have
already acknowledged the need to reflect the multifaceted nature of
authorship. Large consortia and organizations are adopting contribution
frameworks to reflect author roles and participation more accurately. We are
also moving to use repository tools that assign authorship to different
types of research output, such as data sets. More effort, creativity and
diversity of thought are needed. We should stop trying to apply old
attribution models to the innovative ways we now generate data.
If we can reveal the shape of proteins at atomic resolutions, tweak genes to
order and detect cosmic signals from the beginning of time, then surely we
can work out better ways to represent author contributions. We already send
complex basic research and clinical data into ‘information commons’ and
build computational ‘knowledge network’ tools to inform patient
diagnostics and therapeutics. A well-annotated data set might be combined
with other data to expand its impact synergistically. Can we imagine an
author attribution method that would use cutting-edge computational tools
similar to those being applied to scientific research itself? A tool that
gives credit where credit is due?
If we acknowledge the products of research in more-innovative ways, the
value of ‘team-ness’ might grow in academic culture and the cutting edge
will get sharper. Perhaps, then, I won’t have to cajole anyone to
participate in team-building activities.
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d*1
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不能傲硬啊
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d*f
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下一步就是要求作者aa了,千老都在改姓变性

Kiser.
the

【在 d********f 的大作中提到】
: 【 以下文字转载自 Faculty 讨论区 】
: 发信人: YangCN (老杨), 信区: Faculty
: 标 题: 自然杂志:No more first authors, no more last authors
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Oct 5 12:49:07 2018, 美东)
: 倡议:
: If we really want transdisciplinary research, we must ditch the ordered
: listing of authors that stalls collaborative science, says Gretchen L. Kiser.
: 全文:
: Every academic scientist has heard a tale of someone being shafted on an
: authorship list, or had it happen to them. Less appreciated is how much the

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D*r
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唉,一夜回到解放前。。
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n*d
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人民公社

Kiser.
the

【在 d********f 的大作中提到】
: 下一步就是要求作者aa了,千老都在改姓变性
:
: Kiser.
: the

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a*8
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不是不能all in,而是不能借钱炒股,000977金融危机跌到3、4块,然后一路涨到靠近
30,要是作者能扛过低点,那结果不是这样
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w*g
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圆型排版?还得是动图!

★ 发自iPhone App: ChinaWeb 1.1.4

【在 n***d 的大作中提到】
: 人民公社
:
: Kiser.
: the

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r*k
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9块跌到8块就把钱输光了?这只能说明不能借钱炒股而已,而且美国margin应该不会给
你这么高的杠杆。这个基本是期货的杠杆了。而且这样如果涨到11.3的话,基本已经超
过100%利润,还不全出来或者锁定一部分利润,绝对是贪心导致的了。
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H*g
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本来挂名作者就一大堆 这下全转正了

Kiser.
the

【在 d********f 的大作中提到】
: 下一步就是要求作者aa了,千老都在改姓变性
:
: Kiser.
: the

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s*n
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margin call了。原作者是个大傻逼。只有能力,何须豪赌。

【在 r***s 的大作中提到】
: 不到你退出股市的那一天,钱永远不属于你的。2007年6月27日,我永远忘不了那一天
: ,当我无奈地选择出局000977这只票时,我知道我得暂别了我为了奋斗8年多的中国股
: 市,我输了,彻底的输了,输在了中国股市面上最火红的时刻,我为自己的贪婪付出了
: 代价。
: 从99年11月4日入市的那一天起,我一直小心翼翼地操作自己的股票,没有大起也
: 没有大落,从2000元起家炒到07年6月前的三十多万,也是对我股市能力的最好的一种
: 肯定。然而,短短的几天,就让我的一切毁于一旦。
: 是的,从2000元到三十多万,我用了8年的时间,中间还有4年多的熊市,在朋友的
: 心中,这是一个神话,正是这个神话,导致了我心态的失衡,我清晰的记得我写了一篇
: 文章《坚定自己的信念,保住这轮牛市的战果》,但我自己却没能做到这一点。因为我

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d*f
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深挖了一下这大妈,估计不知道怎么上去的,路数很诡异,估计一篇文章都没发过,又
是搞一个搞科学的活动家,还是穆斯林组织的board member
https://www.linkedin.com/in/gretchen-kiser-ph-d-a706b4/

Kiser.
the

【在 d********f 的大作中提到】
: 下一步就是要求作者aa了,千老都在改姓变性
:
: Kiser.
: the

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G*s
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keng, not real
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H*g
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we must ditch traditional publication and tabulate research papers.

Kiser.
the

【在 d********f 的大作中提到】
: 深挖了一下这大妈,估计不知道怎么上去的,路数很诡异,估计一篇文章都没发过,又
: 是搞一个搞科学的活动家,还是穆斯林组织的board member
: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gretchen-kiser-ph-d-a706b4/
:
: Kiser.
: the

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g*4
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出来混,迟早要还。其实楼主应该庆幸,一夜回到解放前总比这版上一天一天被吸血的
死得痛快

【在 r***s 的大作中提到】
: 不到你退出股市的那一天,钱永远不属于你的。2007年6月27日,我永远忘不了那一天
: ,当我无奈地选择出局000977这只票时,我知道我得暂别了我为了奋斗8年多的中国股
: 市,我输了,彻底的输了,输在了中国股市面上最火红的时刻,我为自己的贪婪付出了
: 代价。
: 从99年11月4日入市的那一天起,我一直小心翼翼地操作自己的股票,没有大起也
: 没有大落,从2000元起家炒到07年6月前的三十多万,也是对我股市能力的最好的一种
: 肯定。然而,短短的几天,就让我的一切毁于一旦。
: 是的,从2000元到三十多万,我用了8年的时间,中间还有4年多的熊市,在朋友的
: 心中,这是一个神话,正是这个神话,导致了我心态的失衡,我清晰的记得我写了一篇
: 文章《坚定自己的信念,保住这轮牛市的战果》,但我自己却没能做到这一点。因为我

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d*f
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查了一下果然就发了一片molecular biology of the cell一作混了个毕业

【在 H********g 的大作中提到】
: we must ditch traditional publication and tabulate research papers.
:
: Kiser.
: the

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H*g
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也可以了 生物paper发得再多也说明不了什么

【在 d********f 的大作中提到】
: 查了一下果然就发了一片molecular biology of the cell一作混了个毕业
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d*f
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你打算逼死千老么

【在 H********g 的大作中提到】
: 也可以了 生物paper发得再多也说明不了什么
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H*g
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取消发paper之后 可能很多人确实就无所适从了

【在 d********f 的大作中提到】
: 你打算逼死千老么
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w*g
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我怎么听说这是好杂志?

★ 发自iPhone App: ChinaWeb 1.1.4

【在 d********f 的大作中提到】
: 查了一下果然就发了一片molecular biology of the cell一作混了个毕业
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d*f
21
你看漏了前三个字

【在 w*****g 的大作中提到】
: 我怎么听说这是好杂志?
:
: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChinaWeb 1.1.4

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x*h
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切,你又不懂装懂,这当然算是好杂志。是不能和细胞相提并论,但也就在它后面那一
档,只有一篇有点不差劲,但要说混毕业有一篇这个东西任何学校都有可能毕业。


: 你看漏了前三个字



【在 d********f 的大作中提到】
: 你看漏了前三个字
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d*f
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http://www.bioxbio.com/if/html/MOL-BIOL-CELL.html
你们生物类的3.x算好杂志?我们物理类的3.x都只能属于不是垃圾

【在 x******h 的大作中提到】
: 切,你又不懂装懂,这当然算是好杂志。是不能和细胞相提并论,但也就在它后面那一
: 档,只有一篇有点不差劲,但要说混毕业有一篇这个东西任何学校都有可能毕业。
:
:
: 你看漏了前三个字
:

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H*g
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不以paper淋英雄 不以因子淋paper 博导不要落了俗套

【在 d********f 的大作中提到】
: http://www.bioxbio.com/if/html/MOL-BIOL-CELL.html
: 你们生物类的3.x算好杂志?我们物理类的3.x都只能属于不是垃圾

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