o*e
2 楼
depends on the field (EE, CS, Bio, Chem, ME, etc) and complexity. For a
regular complex EE or CS invention, the fee is about 8-10k per non-provisional
application, and <1k for a provisional.
Unless you DIY.
【在 e******y 的大作中提到】
: 请问一般是多少啊！ Thank you very much!
regular complex EE or CS invention, the fee is about 8-10k per non-provisional
application, and <1k for a provisional.
Unless you DIY.
【在 e******y 的大作中提到】
: 请问一般是多少啊！ Thank you very much!
l*r
3 楼
I think there are firms which charge a flat fee (like writing a will). But
those patents are probably routine patents for which not much research and
arguments need to be made.
Litigation is where the big money lies:) The trick is you usually win for the
prosecution but it is not so certain for litigation.
non-provisional
【在 o****e 的大作中提到】
: depends on the field (EE, CS, Bio, Chem, ME, etc) and complexity. For a
: regular complex EE or CS invention, the fee is about 8-10k per non-provisional
: application, and <1k for a provisional.
: Unless you DIY.
those patents are probably routine patents for which not much research and
arguments need to be made.
Litigation is where the big money lies:) The trick is you usually win for the
prosecution but it is not so certain for litigation.
non-provisional
【在 o****e 的大作中提到】
: depends on the field (EE, CS, Bio, Chem, ME, etc) and complexity. For a
: regular complex EE or CS invention, the fee is about 8-10k per non-provisional
: application, and <1k for a provisional.
: Unless you DIY.
a*a
4 楼
I think otheme's estimation is about right.
For every patent, some level of research and arguments will be needed.
If you think about it, for a associate, an hour is 170-300, and 10K is 30-50h
of work hours. Not all hours will be paid, though, because of the cap.
Of course, for something which might have higher value, in order to get
max protection, the firm might be able to charge more.
【在 l**********r 的大作中提到】
: I think there are firms which charge a flat fee (like writing a will). But
: those patents are probably routine patents for which not much research and
: arguments need to be made.
: Litigation is where the big money lies:) The trick is you usually win for the
: prosecution but it is not so certain for litigation.
:
: non-provisional
For every patent, some level of research and arguments will be needed.
If you think about it, for a associate, an hour is 170-300, and 10K is 30-50h
of work hours. Not all hours will be paid, though, because of the cap.
Of course, for something which might have higher value, in order to get
max protection, the firm might be able to charge more.
【在 l**********r 的大作中提到】
: I think there are firms which charge a flat fee (like writing a will). But
: those patents are probably routine patents for which not much research and
: arguments need to be made.
: Litigation is where the big money lies:) The trick is you usually win for the
: prosecution but it is not so certain for litigation.
:
: non-provisional
l*r
5 楼
同意，otheme是专家:)
这个flat fee的猜想，来源于一些每年file巨多patents但是prestige ranking却不怎么
样的firms.应该低于10k/patent.否则每个associate写50个/年，firm的收入也很可观。
30-50h
the
【在 a***a 的大作中提到】
: I think otheme's estimation is about right.
: For every patent, some level of research and arguments will be needed.
: If you think about it, for a associate, an hour is 170-300, and 10K is 30-50h
: of work hours. Not all hours will be paid, though, because of the cap.
: Of course, for something which might have higher value, in order to get
: max protection, the firm might be able to charge more.
这个flat fee的猜想，来源于一些每年file巨多patents但是prestige ranking却不怎么
样的firms.应该低于10k/patent.否则每个associate写50个/年，firm的收入也很可观。
30-50h
the
【在 a***a 的大作中提到】
: I think otheme's estimation is about right.
: For every patent, some level of research and arguments will be needed.
: If you think about it, for a associate, an hour is 170-300, and 10K is 30-50h
: of work hours. Not all hours will be paid, though, because of the cap.
: Of course, for something which might have higher value, in order to get
: max protection, the firm might be able to charge more.
o*e
6 楼
hoho, I am just trying my best to gather every bit of information about this
industry and share it with you guys.
there are many different kinds of applications, essentially, there are ones
that require a PhD to draft, and ones that don't. People with PhDs, like you
and me, will be given more complex applications, the kind of "high-end"
inventions, and these usually have a higher cap around 9-10k. The key issue
is how fast you can understand the invention. Once you understand the guts of
the
【在 l**********r 的大作中提到】
: 同意，otheme是专家:)
: 这个flat fee的猜想，来源于一些每年file巨多patents但是prestige ranking却不怎么
: 样的firms.应该低于10k/patent.否则每个associate写50个/年，firm的收入也很可观。
:
: 30-50h
: the
industry and share it with you guys.
there are many different kinds of applications, essentially, there are ones
that require a PhD to draft, and ones that don't. People with PhDs, like you
and me, will be given more complex applications, the kind of "high-end"
inventions, and these usually have a higher cap around 9-10k. The key issue
is how fast you can understand the invention. Once you understand the guts of
the
【在 l**********r 的大作中提到】
: 同意，otheme是专家:)
: 这个flat fee的猜想，来源于一些每年file巨多patents但是prestige ranking却不怎么
: 样的firms.应该低于10k/patent.否则每个associate写50个/年，firm的收入也很可观。
:
: 30-50h
: the
l*r
7 楼
I just know you know more than me on this matter:) I have not done enough
research on this myself.
Yeah. It really depends. But I don't know how much more PhDs in Biological
Sciences learn on theories---we didn't really take many courses in graduate
schools. Though at least people who get into a good graduate school are those
who did well as undergraduates.
BTW, you had property/contract/civpro/crim/writing for the first semester? You
must be taking 17+credits. I had 17 (contract/torts/civpro/cr
【在 o****e 的大作中提到】
: hoho, I am just trying my best to gather every bit of information about this
: industry and share it with you guys.
: there are many different kinds of applications, essentially, there are ones
: that require a PhD to draft, and ones that don't. People with PhDs, like you
: and me, will be given more complex applications, the kind of "high-end"
: inventions, and these usually have a higher cap around 9-10k. The key issue
: is how fast you can understand the invention. Once you understand the guts of
: the
research on this myself.
Yeah. It really depends. But I don't know how much more PhDs in Biological
Sciences learn on theories---we didn't really take many courses in graduate
schools. Though at least people who get into a good graduate school are those
who did well as undergraduates.
BTW, you had property/contract/civpro/crim/writing for the first semester? You
must be taking 17+credits. I had 17 (contract/torts/civpro/cr
【在 o****e 的大作中提到】
: hoho, I am just trying my best to gather every bit of information about this
: industry and share it with you guys.
: there are many different kinds of applications, essentially, there are ones
: that require a PhD to draft, and ones that don't. People with PhDs, like you
: and me, will be given more complex applications, the kind of "high-end"
: inventions, and these usually have a higher cap around 9-10k. The key issue
: is how fast you can understand the invention. Once you understand the guts of
: the
o*e
8 楼
i had property, contract, torts, civ pro, crim law, and legal research for the
1st semester. this semester i will continue property, contract, torts,
civpro, with con law and writing. hopefully this semester won't be as awful
as the last one.
those
You
ones
issue
guts
【在 l**********r 的大作中提到】
: I just know you know more than me on this matter:) I have not done enough
: research on this myself.
: Yeah. It really depends. But I don't know how much more PhDs in Biological
: Sciences learn on theories---we didn't really take many courses in graduate
: schools. Though at least people who get into a good graduate school are those
: who did well as undergraduates.
: BTW, you had property/contract/civpro/crim/writing for the first semester? You
: must be taking 17+credits. I had 17 (contract/torts/civpro/cr
1st semester. this semester i will continue property, contract, torts,
civpro, with con law and writing. hopefully this semester won't be as awful
as the last one.
those
You
ones
issue
guts
【在 l**********r 的大作中提到】
: I just know you know more than me on this matter:) I have not done enough
: research on this myself.
: Yeah. It really depends. But I don't know how much more PhDs in Biological
: Sciences learn on theories---we didn't really take many courses in graduate
: schools. Though at least people who get into a good graduate school are those
: who did well as undergraduates.
: BTW, you had property/contract/civpro/crim/writing for the first semester? You
: must be taking 17+credits. I had 17 (contract/torts/civpro/cr
l*r
9 楼
I see. We have quite different course setup. Our property is 5cr and
contract/civpro/crim/torts is 4cr. I will take civproII sometime. ContractII
is an elective that is not required.
You must have felt the same way---the most difficult part of law school is
time. With just one less course, life would be so much easier. With only two
courses, it feels like vacation:)---once in a while, we had only two courses
in a day.
Yeah. I think it is going to get better. Still, 1700+pages is not going to be
【在 o****e 的大作中提到】
: i had property, contract, torts, civ pro, crim law, and legal research for the
: 1st semester. this semester i will continue property, contract, torts,
: civpro, with con law and writing. hopefully this semester won't be as awful
: as the last one.
:
: those
: You
: ones
: issue
: guts
contract/civpro/crim/torts is 4cr. I will take civproII sometime. ContractII
is an elective that is not required.
You must have felt the same way---the most difficult part of law school is
time. With just one less course, life would be so much easier. With only two
courses, it feels like vacation:)---once in a while, we had only two courses
in a day.
Yeah. I think it is going to get better. Still, 1700+pages is not going to be
【在 o****e 的大作中提到】
: i had property, contract, torts, civ pro, crim law, and legal research for the
: 1st semester. this semester i will continue property, contract, torts,
: civpro, with con law and writing. hopefully this semester won't be as awful
: as the last one.
:
: those
: You
: ones
: issue
: guts
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