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在美国想炒房真的很难,持有成本太高# Living
m*t
1
白香草的主页上说walmart也有,重来没有看见过啊。
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d*6
2
前几个星期看到一个房子,在一个64年建的小区里,3br 2ba, 1500sqf,负装修。所
谓负装修就是,就是所有墙上都有有洞,地板全部揭起来,状况相当恐怖。估计是前任
房东foreclosure所以一时气愤砸东西了。但价格惊人的便宜,才3万刀不到。哪怕买下
来用1万装修,这房子也很便宜。周围也不是很差的地方,周边房价一般3br condo都要
7万以上。
可是仔细一问小区物业,发现除了hoa fee以外,小区是中央空调系统,所以会统一收
取所有utility,包括水电和cable。这个3br的utility每月在300左右,你有人住没人
住用多用少都照样收。于是你就被迫跟着老美一起去浪费水电。算上hoa,utility,地
税和保险,这个房子每月持有成本大约在700左右。如果是拿来出租的话,一半的租金
就已经吃掉。你如果想炒房,捂盘个1年就亏,两年就大亏,3年就能底朝天。
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t*7
3
walmart好像所有的visa gc,香草都要现金/代笔。
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N*s
4
珍惜生命,远离hoa.
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t*n
5
Local Walmart有很多,都摆在money center那边。
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f*i
6
牛,这么快就指点江山了

【在 d**********6 的大作中提到】
: 前几个星期看到一个房子,在一个64年建的小区里,3br 2ba, 1500sqf,负装修。所
: 谓负装修就是,就是所有墙上都有有洞,地板全部揭起来,状况相当恐怖。估计是前任
: 房东foreclosure所以一时气愤砸东西了。但价格惊人的便宜,才3万刀不到。哪怕买下
: 来用1万装修,这房子也很便宜。周围也不是很差的地方,周边房价一般3br condo都要
: 7万以上。
: 可是仔细一问小区物业,发现除了hoa fee以外,小区是中央空调系统,所以会统一收
: 取所有utility,包括水电和cable。这个3br的utility每月在300左右,你有人住没人
: 住用多用少都照样收。于是你就被迫跟着老美一起去浪费水电。算上hoa,utility,地
: 税和保险,这个房子每月持有成本大约在700左右。如果是拿来出租的话,一半的租金
: 就已经吃掉。你如果想炒房,捂盘个1年就亏,两年就大亏,3年就能底朝天。

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W*n
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Walgreen also have.
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m*8
8
赫赫,那是你没碰到合适的投资标的
那么多大地主都是怎么赚钱的?
不要因噎废食。

【在 d**********6 的大作中提到】
: 前几个星期看到一个房子,在一个64年建的小区里,3br 2ba, 1500sqf,负装修。所
: 谓负装修就是,就是所有墙上都有有洞,地板全部揭起来,状况相当恐怖。估计是前任
: 房东foreclosure所以一时气愤砸东西了。但价格惊人的便宜,才3万刀不到。哪怕买下
: 来用1万装修,这房子也很便宜。周围也不是很差的地方,周边房价一般3br condo都要
: 7万以上。
: 可是仔细一问小区物业,发现除了hoa fee以外,小区是中央空调系统,所以会统一收
: 取所有utility,包括水电和cable。这个3br的utility每月在300左右,你有人住没人
: 住用多用少都照样收。于是你就被迫跟着老美一起去浪费水电。算上hoa,utility,地
: 税和保险,这个房子每月持有成本大约在700左右。如果是拿来出租的话,一半的租金
: 就已经吃掉。你如果想炒房,捂盘个1年就亏,两年就大亏,3年就能底朝天。

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n*9
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if you feel that way, don't bother even to think about.

【在 d**********6 的大作中提到】
: 前几个星期看到一个房子,在一个64年建的小区里,3br 2ba, 1500sqf,负装修。所
: 谓负装修就是,就是所有墙上都有有洞,地板全部揭起来,状况相当恐怖。估计是前任
: 房东foreclosure所以一时气愤砸东西了。但价格惊人的便宜,才3万刀不到。哪怕买下
: 来用1万装修,这房子也很便宜。周围也不是很差的地方,周边房价一般3br condo都要
: 7万以上。
: 可是仔细一问小区物业,发现除了hoa fee以外,小区是中央空调系统,所以会统一收
: 取所有utility,包括水电和cable。这个3br的utility每月在300左右,你有人住没人
: 住用多用少都照样收。于是你就被迫跟着老美一起去浪费水电。算上hoa,utility,地
: 税和保险,这个房子每月持有成本大约在700左右。如果是拿来出租的话,一半的租金
: 就已经吃掉。你如果想炒房,捂盘个1年就亏,两年就大亏,3年就能底朝天。

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H*g
10
condo/Townhouse啊,还有一个问题是能不能往外租、能租给谁、小区出租数有没有超
过70%或80%等等。
不过话说回来,统一收取utility那你出租的时候就可以说rents include everything
,这样rent比周围同等condo的要价可以略高一些。

【在 d**********6 的大作中提到】
: 前几个星期看到一个房子,在一个64年建的小区里,3br 2ba, 1500sqf,负装修。所
: 谓负装修就是,就是所有墙上都有有洞,地板全部揭起来,状况相当恐怖。估计是前任
: 房东foreclosure所以一时气愤砸东西了。但价格惊人的便宜,才3万刀不到。哪怕买下
: 来用1万装修,这房子也很便宜。周围也不是很差的地方,周边房价一般3br condo都要
: 7万以上。
: 可是仔细一问小区物业,发现除了hoa fee以外,小区是中央空调系统,所以会统一收
: 取所有utility,包括水电和cable。这个3br的utility每月在300左右,你有人住没人
: 住用多用少都照样收。于是你就被迫跟着老美一起去浪费水电。算上hoa,utility,地
: 税和保险,这个房子每月持有成本大约在700左右。如果是拿来出租的话,一半的租金
: 就已经吃掉。你如果想炒房,捂盘个1年就亏,两年就大亏,3年就能底朝天。

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c*a
11
楼主又回来了?
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E*w
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以点概面了

【在 d**********6 的大作中提到】
: 前几个星期看到一个房子,在一个64年建的小区里,3br 2ba, 1500sqf,负装修。所
: 谓负装修就是,就是所有墙上都有有洞,地板全部揭起来,状况相当恐怖。估计是前任
: 房东foreclosure所以一时气愤砸东西了。但价格惊人的便宜,才3万刀不到。哪怕买下
: 来用1万装修,这房子也很便宜。周围也不是很差的地方,周边房价一般3br condo都要
: 7万以上。
: 可是仔细一问小区物业,发现除了hoa fee以外,小区是中央空调系统,所以会统一收
: 取所有utility,包括水电和cable。这个3br的utility每月在300左右,你有人住没人
: 住用多用少都照样收。于是你就被迫跟着老美一起去浪费水电。算上hoa,utility,地
: 税和保险,这个房子每月持有成本大约在700左右。如果是拿来出租的话,一半的租金
: 就已经吃掉。你如果想炒房,捂盘个1年就亏,两年就大亏,3年就能底朝天。

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R*r
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everything是可以随便说的吗?人家管你要意外伤害险怎么办?

everything

【在 H****g 的大作中提到】
: condo/Townhouse啊,还有一个问题是能不能往外租、能租给谁、小区出租数有没有超
: 过70%或80%等等。
: 不过话说回来,统一收取utility那你出租的时候就可以说rents include everything
: ,这样rent比周围同等condo的要价可以略高一些。

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w*u
14
你还能高到哪儿?4万的房子,1400的租金,抢钱啊?

everything

【在 H****g 的大作中提到】
: condo/Townhouse啊,还有一个问题是能不能往外租、能租给谁、小区出租数有没有超
: 过70%或80%等等。
: 不过话说回来,统一收取utility那你出租的时候就可以说rents include everything
: ,这样rent比周围同等condo的要价可以略高一些。

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m*t
15
求科普 hoa是啥

【在 N**s 的大作中提到】
: 珍惜生命,远离hoa.
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B*d
16
房价不动或者继续跌你怎么炒房,你买这个房子当然用来出租,那么你放进 4 万,一
个月净收 700, 这个投资收益够高了吧 ?

【在 d**********6 的大作中提到】
: 前几个星期看到一个房子,在一个64年建的小区里,3br 2ba, 1500sqf,负装修。所
: 谓负装修就是,就是所有墙上都有有洞,地板全部揭起来,状况相当恐怖。估计是前任
: 房东foreclosure所以一时气愤砸东西了。但价格惊人的便宜,才3万刀不到。哪怕买下
: 来用1万装修,这房子也很便宜。周围也不是很差的地方,周边房价一般3br condo都要
: 7万以上。
: 可是仔细一问小区物业,发现除了hoa fee以外,小区是中央空调系统,所以会统一收
: 取所有utility,包括水电和cable。这个3br的utility每月在300左右,你有人住没人
: 住用多用少都照样收。于是你就被迫跟着老美一起去浪费水电。算上hoa,utility,地
: 税和保险,这个房子每月持有成本大约在700左右。如果是拿来出租的话,一半的租金
: 就已经吃掉。你如果想炒房,捂盘个1年就亏,两年就大亏,3年就能底朝天。

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a*l
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这和持有成本一点关系也没有.美国炒房的关键问题是价格不上涨,很多地区是多年的价
格不变就算好的了,很多地区还下跌,炒个屁的房,能浮在水上就已经不错了.

【在 d**********6 的大作中提到】
: 前几个星期看到一个房子,在一个64年建的小区里,3br 2ba, 1500sqf,负装修。所
: 谓负装修就是,就是所有墙上都有有洞,地板全部揭起来,状况相当恐怖。估计是前任
: 房东foreclosure所以一时气愤砸东西了。但价格惊人的便宜,才3万刀不到。哪怕买下
: 来用1万装修,这房子也很便宜。周围也不是很差的地方,周边房价一般3br condo都要
: 7万以上。
: 可是仔细一问小区物业,发现除了hoa fee以外,小区是中央空调系统,所以会统一收
: 取所有utility,包括水电和cable。这个3br的utility每月在300左右,你有人住没人
: 住用多用少都照样收。于是你就被迫跟着老美一起去浪费水电。算上hoa,utility,地
: 税和保险,这个房子每月持有成本大约在700左右。如果是拿来出租的话,一半的租金
: 就已经吃掉。你如果想炒房,捂盘个1年就亏,两年就大亏,3年就能底朝天。

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h*g
18
美国不同的地方还有很多乱七八糟的和residential land use有关的regulations,能
租房子或者买得起独门独户的house的最好。别的option都坑爹
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h*g
19
Homeowners Association (HOA) fees are funds that are collected from
homeowners in a condominium complex to obtain the income needed to pay (
typically) for master insurance, exterior and interior (as appropriate)
maintenance, landscaping, water, sewer, and garbage costs. HOA fees are
typically paid monthly and run on average from $100-$700 per month – these
are indeed estimates, and can vary depending on many factors (especially if
there are higher-end amenities being provided via the HOA fees such as a
concierge, pool, fitness center, or valet). Fees are normally set by the HOA
's board of directors and adjusted annually – oftentimes, an HOA board of
directors is simply all the homeowners in a complex or building, if it is
small, or if there are a large number of owners, the board of directors is
typically elected by all homeowners. Any excess HOA fees that exist after
paying for pertinent services as described above are stored in an account
and called reserve funds.
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d*6
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看这个:http://www.zillow.com/homes/recently_sold/building/2-_beds/0-70000_price/0-253_mp/33.942085,-84.372587_latlong/
有不少3br是3万左右的。我说那间更便宜,因为是负装修。因为建筑位置的关系,面积
比其他要大100sqft左右。不过没找到。我记得NO应该是B12。
小区是gated的而且有门卫,很安全。Rent Zestimate都是$1,155/mo,如果包水电气和
电视cable,$1400一个月不过分吧。而且这个地区前些日子好多人foreclosure,他们3
年内不能贷款买房,所以都只能租房。租房市场是一片红火。我老板的出租房子还没
list出来就被内部认购了。

【在 B********d 的大作中提到】
: 房价不动或者继续跌你怎么炒房,你买这个房子当然用来出租,那么你放进 4 万,一
: 个月净收 700, 这个投资收益够高了吧 ?

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st
21
资金链一断就很难继续了,知道几个这种情况的都改收租挣钱
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q*k
22
在美国,房子主要是买来居住,不是买来炒房价的,当然也有一些不错的投资项目,但
是这个需要时间精力和经验。我觉得这样挺好啊,总不像中国,几年时间房价翻几倍,
弄得民不聊生。
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B*d
23
租金多少要根据你那里市场,只是奉劝你不要包电费,否则你会哭都来不及。

们3

【在 d**********6 的大作中提到】
: 看这个:http://www.zillow.com/homes/recently_sold/building/2-_beds/0-70000_price/0-253_mp/33.942085,-84.372587_latlong/
: 有不少3br是3万左右的。我说那间更便宜,因为是负装修。因为建筑位置的关系,面积
: 比其他要大100sqft左右。不过没找到。我记得NO应该是B12。
: 小区是gated的而且有门卫,很安全。Rent Zestimate都是$1,155/mo,如果包水电气和
: 电视cable,$1400一个月不过分吧。而且这个地区前些日子好多人foreclosure,他们3
: 年内不能贷款买房,所以都只能租房。租房市场是一片红火。我老板的出租房子还没
: list出来就被内部认购了。

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w*o
24
什么是hoa?

【在 N**s 的大作中提到】
: 珍惜生命,远离hoa.
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d*6
25
我一听每月必须跟整个小区的人一起share水电费就立刻打退堂鼓了。不过那房子还是
很快被另外一个invester接手过去。

【在 B********d 的大作中提到】
: 租金多少要根据你那里市场,只是奉劝你不要包电费,否则你会哭都来不及。
:
: 们3

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d*6
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也就是国内的物业管理费

【在 w******o 的大作中提到】
: 什么是hoa?
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d*6
27
对头,美国不像新加坡和香港,大量经适房和公租屋,但也能如此强力的遏制炒房团,
是很值得学习的。房子是生活必需品,刚性需求,你不压制炒房的那就会恶化民生,最
终搞烂整个社会。

【在 q**k 的大作中提到】
: 在美国,房子主要是买来居住,不是买来炒房价的,当然也有一些不错的投资项目,但
: 是这个需要时间精力和经验。我觉得这样挺好啊,总不像中国,几年时间房价翻几倍,
: 弄得民不聊生。

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m*h
28
亚特兰大的房子这么便宜?只有我们这里的十分之一。
房租基本差不多

们3

【在 d**********6 的大作中提到】
: 看这个:http://www.zillow.com/homes/recently_sold/building/2-_beds/0-70000_price/0-253_mp/33.942085,-84.372587_latlong/
: 有不少3br是3万左右的。我说那间更便宜,因为是负装修。因为建筑位置的关系,面积
: 比其他要大100sqft左右。不过没找到。我记得NO应该是B12。
: 小区是gated的而且有门卫,很安全。Rent Zestimate都是$1,155/mo,如果包水电气和
: 电视cable,$1400一个月不过分吧。而且这个地区前些日子好多人foreclosure,他们3
: 年内不能贷款买房,所以都只能租房。租房市场是一片红火。我老板的出租房子还没
: list出来就被内部认购了。

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d*6
29
看统计:http://www.realtytrac.com/trendcenter/trend.html
GA的Foreclosure Rate是最高的之一,泡沫爆的最厉害。

【在 m***h 的大作中提到】
: 亚特兰大的房子这么便宜?只有我们这里的十分之一。
: 房租基本差不多
:
: 们3

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H*i
30
Home Owner Association

【在 w******o 的大作中提到】
: 什么是hoa?
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m*h
31
同是深红,我们这跌得狠的也有50-60% off,不过绝对价格还有GA的十倍

【在 d**********6 的大作中提到】
: 看统计:http://www.realtytrac.com/trendcenter/trend.html
: GA的Foreclosure Rate是最高的之一,泡沫爆的最厉害。

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d*6
32
你是拿什么比啊,我说的是condo。还有装修啊,short sales啊,学区啊什么的。
这个网页查一下:
http://www.kiplinger.com/tools/houseprices/index.php?db=housing
Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Marietta GA $114,000 -46.8% -14.0%
你们的呢?

【在 m***h 的大作中提到】
: 同是深红,我们这跌得狠的也有50-60% off,不过绝对价格还有GA的十倍
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m*h
33
看了一下我们整个county -59.0% -13.1%,跌得比你那还狠
不过我们村的condo median price 还有三四十万

【在 d**********6 的大作中提到】
: 你是拿什么比啊,我说的是condo。还有装修啊,short sales啊,学区啊什么的。
: 这个网页查一下:
: http://www.kiplinger.com/tools/houseprices/index.php?db=housing
: Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Marietta GA $114,000 -46.8% -14.0%
: 你们的呢?

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d*6
34
那就是你们的地区问题了。Atlanta是比较穷的州。

【在 m***h 的大作中提到】
: 看了一下我们整个county -59.0% -13.1%,跌得比你那还狠
: 不过我们村的condo median price 还有三四十万

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m*h
35
现在哪怕中国县城里三万美金只能买个老破楼房

【在 d**********6 的大作中提到】
: 那就是你们的地区问题了。Atlanta是比较穷的州。
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f*i
36
这次的烂泡泡难道不是美国吹出来的?

【在 d**********6 的大作中提到】
: 对头,美国不像新加坡和香港,大量经适房和公租屋,但也能如此强力的遏制炒房团,
: 是很值得学习的。房子是生活必需品,刚性需求,你不压制炒房的那就会恶化民生,最
: 终搞烂整个社会。

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j*k
37
wow.. you must shoot yourself for missing a deal like this..
$700 * 12 = $8400
price of the house + fixing = $40,000
You annual return just on the rent would be 21%!!! That's about 20 times
more than putting the money in the bank.. not to mention the potential gain
from selling the property a few years later..

【在 d**********6 的大作中提到】
: 前几个星期看到一个房子,在一个64年建的小区里,3br 2ba, 1500sqf,负装修。所
: 谓负装修就是,就是所有墙上都有有洞,地板全部揭起来,状况相当恐怖。估计是前任
: 房东foreclosure所以一时气愤砸东西了。但价格惊人的便宜,才3万刀不到。哪怕买下
: 来用1万装修,这房子也很便宜。周围也不是很差的地方,周边房价一般3br condo都要
: 7万以上。
: 可是仔细一问小区物业,发现除了hoa fee以外,小区是中央空调系统,所以会统一收
: 取所有utility,包括水电和cable。这个3br的utility每月在300左右,你有人住没人
: 住用多用少都照样收。于是你就被迫跟着老美一起去浪费水电。算上hoa,utility,地
: 税和保险,这个房子每月持有成本大约在700左右。如果是拿来出租的话,一半的租金
: 就已经吃掉。你如果想炒房,捂盘个1年就亏,两年就大亏,3年就能底朝天。

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d*6
38
烂泡泡是放贷放出来的,是大量给那些买不起房的人放贷结果吹起来。这过程当中还是
没什么人炒房。中国的泡泡大多了,放贷是一个,我看节目,月供是家庭收入的150%都
敢放贷,这边30%以上就不准放了。不过中国的炒房团也是吹泡泡的主力,中国北京空
置房据说有300-500万套呢。

【在 f****i 的大作中提到】
: 这次的烂泡泡难道不是美国吹出来的?
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f*i
39
你真搞笑

【在 d**********6 的大作中提到】
: 烂泡泡是放贷放出来的,是大量给那些买不起房的人放贷结果吹起来。这过程当中还是
: 没什么人炒房。中国的泡泡大多了,放贷是一个,我看节目,月供是家庭收入的150%都
: 敢放贷,这边30%以上就不准放了。不过中国的炒房团也是吹泡泡的主力,中国北京空
: 置房据说有300-500万套呢。

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l*g
40
not as good as 21%.
Unless you live nearby, you will need to pay money to managing company.
Since the rent is your income, you will need to pay tax. If you have a
troublesome renter, you need to eat the loss. I would be happy to get 10%,
if I do not need to manage it and repair it.

gain

【在 j***k 的大作中提到】
: wow.. you must shoot yourself for missing a deal like this..
: $700 * 12 = $8400
: price of the house + fixing = $40,000
: You annual return just on the rent would be 21%!!! That's about 20 times
: more than putting the money in the bank.. not to mention the potential gain
: from selling the property a few years later..

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d*6
41
我是在找自住房,不是搞投资。
1.他的价位太低,不能贷款买,银行不给贷的,只能cash。我根本没有。
2.出租有很多麻烦事,我也不知道该小区是否已经超过规定出租比例了。还有装修、看
房、报税等。这浑水我不想趟。

gain

【在 j***k 的大作中提到】
: wow.. you must shoot yourself for missing a deal like this..
: $700 * 12 = $8400
: price of the house + fixing = $40,000
: You annual return just on the rent would be 21%!!! That's about 20 times
: more than putting the money in the bank.. not to mention the potential gain
: from selling the property a few years later..

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d*6
42
Good guess. I think it will be more than 10%, say 15%. However, 10% is still
very good. My stocks and mutual funds' return rate is less than 8%.

【在 l****g 的大作中提到】
: not as good as 21%.
: Unless you live nearby, you will need to pay money to managing company.
: Since the rent is your income, you will need to pay tax. If you have a
: troublesome renter, you need to eat the loss. I would be happy to get 10%,
: if I do not need to manage it and repair it.
:
: gain

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j*k
43
don't you pay tax on cap gains, dividends, and interests anyway?
and remember, that's just rental income, not counting potential capital
appreciation. During the 2008 financial crisis, GM bonds had the similar
yield, somewhere between 20% - 30%. But the investor of those bonds would
have to face with the risk that the bond price may drop to zero..
but not in this case. at less than $40K, how much downside risk can the
property still have? It sure would not drop to zero.

【在 l****g 的大作中提到】
: not as good as 21%.
: Unless you live nearby, you will need to pay money to managing company.
: Since the rent is your income, you will need to pay tax. If you have a
: troublesome renter, you need to eat the loss. I would be happy to get 10%,
: if I do not need to manage it and repair it.
:
: gain

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l*g
44
"It sure would not drop to zero." I heard there are some $1 houses, quite
close to zero if anyone buying at 40,000. I would not be so sure. At history
low interest rate, house price can only go higher if interest rate go even
lower or average income increased somehow. If interest rate goes back to
history average, house price will go lower. I'd be careful to buy now.

【在 j***k 的大作中提到】
: don't you pay tax on cap gains, dividends, and interests anyway?
: and remember, that's just rental income, not counting potential capital
: appreciation. During the 2008 financial crisis, GM bonds had the similar
: yield, somewhere between 20% - 30%. But the investor of those bonds would
: have to face with the risk that the bond price may drop to zero..
: but not in this case. at less than $40K, how much downside risk can the
: property still have? It sure would not drop to zero.

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j*k
45
interest rate's correlation to housing price is not a sure thing.
back in the height of the bubble in 2006, the interest rate for a 30 yr
fixed conforming was over 7% but the house price was also sky high. Now, its
3.6%, but the housing price is much lower. How do you explain?
housing price has more to do with consumer confidence and jobs than interest
rates.
Show me a house that's only $1?

history
even

【在 l****g 的大作中提到】
: "It sure would not drop to zero." I heard there are some $1 houses, quite
: close to zero if anyone buying at 40,000. I would not be so sure. At history
: low interest rate, house price can only go higher if interest rate go even
: lower or average income increased somehow. If interest rate goes back to
: history average, house price will go lower. I'd be careful to buy now.

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d*6
46
I heard that some the banks will tear down the old high-maintenance cheap
houses. But even in this case, the land still worth something. If your
investment is a condo, I don't think the bank can tear it down.
$1 house is just a legend.

history
even

【在 l****g 的大作中提到】
: "It sure would not drop to zero." I heard there are some $1 houses, quite
: close to zero if anyone buying at 40,000. I would not be so sure. At history
: low interest rate, house price can only go higher if interest rate go even
: lower or average income increased somehow. If interest rate goes back to
: history average, house price will go lower. I'd be careful to buy now.

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l*g
47
I think you need to quote the lowest rate that was available, including ARM
and optional ARM. In 2006, you can get 4% or even 3.*% if you using optional
ARM. It does not matter whether or not you are conservative. You need to
compete with other people for the price of a house. So it is the lowest
available interest rate and the borrower's claimed income set the price.
Before the bubble there was no interest rate that low even if you consider
ARM(maybe it did not even exist), from 1997 to 2006, the lowest interest
rate changed from 8% to 3.5%, so the house near my location more than
tripled, possibly due to low down-payment requirement too.

its
interest

【在 j***k 的大作中提到】
: interest rate's correlation to housing price is not a sure thing.
: back in the height of the bubble in 2006, the interest rate for a 30 yr
: fixed conforming was over 7% but the house price was also sky high. Now, its
: 3.6%, but the housing price is much lower. How do you explain?
: housing price has more to do with consumer confidence and jobs than interest
: rates.
: Show me a house that's only $1?
:
: history
: even

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l*g
48
http://consumerist.com/2011/09/house-purchased-for-1-now-facing

its
interest

【在 j***k 的大作中提到】
: interest rate's correlation to housing price is not a sure thing.
: back in the height of the bubble in 2006, the interest rate for a 30 yr
: fixed conforming was over 7% but the house price was also sky high. Now, its
: 3.6%, but the housing price is much lower. How do you explain?
: housing price has more to do with consumer confidence and jobs than interest
: rates.
: Show me a house that's only $1?
:
: history
: even

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f*c
51
炒房还是算了吧。
个人不是行家,但是自己也在慢慢观察这个市场。
不同地区的房价不一样,你要能了解你自己地区的情况再说吧。
先说投资客。没有大手笔就算了吧,另外买入卖出的交易费用+agent费用,全部考虑进
去还能赚个10%么?
再说lz的收租型。小区的出租限制,房子的修修补补,冬夏极高的utility费用,还有
出租所得的征税,最后还有形形色色的租房客。你看看有没有能力去handle这件事情吧。
美国的特点就是让中产层能去fully diversify各种各样的风险,但凡丰厚的预期报酬
后面都跟着一大堆不可预测的风险。你3万搞定的价值7万房子,其他老美都已经研究透
了,会让你去捡这个便宜?
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j*k
52
not sure where you got your information from. But they are incorrect.
1. Most ppl still buy houses by taking out traditional 30 yr mortgages, even
in 2006. over 80% of the mortgage were the traditional 30 yrs.
2. 5/1 ARM had never dropped to 4% in 2006. it was more like 5 - 6%. The 5/1
ARM rate now is only 2.8%. You can use the link below to query.
http://ycharts.com/indicators/5_1_adjustable_rate_mortgage_rate

ARM
optional

【在 l****g 的大作中提到】
: I think you need to quote the lowest rate that was available, including ARM
: and optional ARM. In 2006, you can get 4% or even 3.*% if you using optional
: ARM. It does not matter whether or not you are conservative. You need to
: compete with other people for the price of a house. So it is the lowest
: available interest rate and the borrower's claimed income set the price.
: Before the bubble there was no interest rate that low even if you consider
: ARM(maybe it did not even exist), from 1997 to 2006, the lowest interest
: rate changed from 8% to 3.5%, so the house near my location more than
: tripled, possibly due to low down-payment requirement too.
:

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l*g
54
My point is that house price can certainly drops to close to zero. If no
buyer want to buy at more than $1, than the price will drop to $1 or below.

【在 j***k 的大作中提到】
: ???
: its $1 because there was a catch... what's the your point?

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w*t
55
这已经发生了。费城、底特律、克利夫兰、巴尔的摩均有。

My point is that house price can certainly drops to close to zero. If no
buyer want to b........
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【在 l****g 的大作中提到】
: My point is that house price can certainly drops to close to zero. If no
: buyer want to buy at more than $1, than the price will drop to $1 or below.

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l*g
56
I also said optional ARM,which you pay monthly rate lower than the interest(
effectively lower interest rate). Today, you may not get it any more. But in
2006, you could get it. That is why people can "afford" way more house than
their income can support.
IF the house did increase 15% every year after they bought, they can still
afford it even today. But shortly after, the reality hit, you knew what
happened.
All market is driven by demand and supply, with house appreciating more than
15% every year and creative financing, the demand for house is way beyond
the need for a place to live, thus you got high demand and price. It is
still easy to understand, if one expand the understanding of demand beyond
the scope of human need but greed.

even
/1

【在 j***k 的大作中提到】
: not sure where you got your information from. But they are incorrect.
: 1. Most ppl still buy houses by taking out traditional 30 yr mortgages, even
: in 2006. over 80% of the mortgage were the traditional 30 yrs.
: 2. 5/1 ARM had never dropped to 4% in 2006. it was more like 5 - 6%. The 5/1
: ARM rate now is only 2.8%. You can use the link below to query.
: http://ycharts.com/indicators/5_1_adjustable_rate_mortgage_rate
:
: ARM
: optional

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