h*o
2 楼
Former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan said he expects stocks to
continue their decline after Standard & Poor’s downgraded the nation’s
credit rating, even as an S&P official predicted little market impact.
“Considering the momentum in which the market went down over the last week,
it is very unlikely, if history is any guide, that this isn’t going to
take a while to bottom out,” Greenspan said on NBC’s “Meet the Press”
program. “So the initial reaction in my judgment is going to be negative.”
The Aug. 5 downgrade followed the biggest weekly selloff in U.S. stocks in
32 months, with the S&P 500 Index (SPX) slumping 7.2 percent to its lowest
level since November. S&P’s managing director of sovereign ratings, David
Beers, said he doesn’t expect markets to react significantly when they open
tomorrow.
“Based on historical experience, we wouldn’t expect that much financial
impact,” Beers said today on the “Fox News Sunday” program. “The markets
are reacting to a lot of factors, not just what S&P said on Friday.”
Greenspan said U.S. government bonds are safe investments. “Very much so,”
he said. At the same time the S&P downgrade, which stemmed from the
political clash over the debt limit, “hit a nerve that there’s something
basically bad going on,” Greenspan said.
Seeking a Haven
Investors seeking a haven amid concerns the global economic rebound is
fading have bought Treasuries in recent weeks, even after S&P warned it
might lower the U.S. rating. Yields on benchmark 10-year notes closed at 2.
56 percent Aug. 5, before S&P announced its decision, down from 3.12 percent
a month ago.
The dollar weakened against the euro and yen and dropped to a record versus
the Swiss franc in early Asia-Pacific trading following the S&P downgrade.
The dollar fell to 77.70 yen, from 78.40 on Aug. 5. The U.S. currency
depreciated to $1.4357 to the euro, from $1.4282. The dollar touched 74.85
Swiss centimes before trading at 75.16, from 76.74 last week.
Greenspan predicted the economic slowdown would stop short of becoming a new
recession. “I don’t see a double dip but I do see it slowing down,”
Greenspan said.
The U.S. Treasury Department says S&P made a $2 trillion mistake in its
calculations. The department said in a statement that “there is no
justifiable rationale” for the move.
S&P isn’t ruling out the possibility of a second downgrade. The company has
a “negative outlook” on the U.S., signifying a one-in-three chance of a
cut in the next six to 24 months, John Chambers, chairman of S&P’s
sovereign debt committee, said on ABC’s “This Week.”
Another Downgrade?
“If the fiscal position of the United States deteriorates further, or if
the political gridlock becomes more entrenched, then that could lead to a
downgrade,” Chambers said.
Two other ratings companies, Moody’s Investors Service and Fitch Ratings,
affirmed their AAA credit ratings for the U.S. on Aug. 2, the day Obama
signed a bill that ended the debt-ceiling impasse. Moody’s and Fitch both
said downgrades were possible if lawmakers fail to enact debt reduction
measures and the economy weakens.
Austan Goolsbee, who stepped down last week as chairman of President Barack
Obama’s Council of Economic Advisers, said on NBC’s “Meet the Press”
that the conflict over the federal deficit was threatening to divert
attention from sagging economic growth.
“There is a danger that if we just keep saying the number one thing we have
to talk about is all about the short run deficit, we are losing sight of
the fact that we’ve got to reignite the engine of job growth,” said
Goolsbee, who is returning to his teaching position at the University of
Chicago.
‘Tea Party Downgrade’
Lawrence Summers, former top economic adviser to President Obama, called S&P
’s downgrade from AAA to AA+ “outrageous” on CNN’s “State of the Union
” and said that American families “are going to be the losers” because
House Republicans “played chicken with America’s creditworthiness.”
Democratic and Republican lawmakers traded blame for both the debt and the
downgrade.
Democratic Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts said blame lay with the Tea
Party movement and the House Republicans who he said were willing to let the
nation default rather than consider a budget compromise.
“This is the Tea Party downgrade because a minority of people in the House
of Representatives countered even the will of many Republicans in the United
States Senate,” Kerry said.
U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham, a South Carolina Republican, said Congress and
the president would have avoided losing the AAA credit rating had they
listened to Tea Party Republicans and passed $4 trillion in spending cuts.
“The Tea Party hasn’t destroyed Washington,” Graham said on CBS’s “Face
the Nation” program. “Washington was destroyed before the Tea Party got
there.”
Republican Senator John McCain of Arizona, who lost the 2008 presidential
election to Democrat Barack Obama, said the president had failed to offer a
plan to lead the country out of unsustainable budget deficits and debt.
“Don’t shoot the messenger,” McCain said. “Is there anybody that
believes that S&P is wrong in their assessment of the fiscal situation of
this country?”
continue their decline after Standard & Poor’s downgraded the nation’s
credit rating, even as an S&P official predicted little market impact.
“Considering the momentum in which the market went down over the last week,
it is very unlikely, if history is any guide, that this isn’t going to
take a while to bottom out,” Greenspan said on NBC’s “Meet the Press”
program. “So the initial reaction in my judgment is going to be negative.”
The Aug. 5 downgrade followed the biggest weekly selloff in U.S. stocks in
32 months, with the S&P 500 Index (SPX) slumping 7.2 percent to its lowest
level since November. S&P’s managing director of sovereign ratings, David
Beers, said he doesn’t expect markets to react significantly when they open
tomorrow.
“Based on historical experience, we wouldn’t expect that much financial
impact,” Beers said today on the “Fox News Sunday” program. “The markets
are reacting to a lot of factors, not just what S&P said on Friday.”
Greenspan said U.S. government bonds are safe investments. “Very much so,”
he said. At the same time the S&P downgrade, which stemmed from the
political clash over the debt limit, “hit a nerve that there’s something
basically bad going on,” Greenspan said.
Seeking a Haven
Investors seeking a haven amid concerns the global economic rebound is
fading have bought Treasuries in recent weeks, even after S&P warned it
might lower the U.S. rating. Yields on benchmark 10-year notes closed at 2.
56 percent Aug. 5, before S&P announced its decision, down from 3.12 percent
a month ago.
The dollar weakened against the euro and yen and dropped to a record versus
the Swiss franc in early Asia-Pacific trading following the S&P downgrade.
The dollar fell to 77.70 yen, from 78.40 on Aug. 5. The U.S. currency
depreciated to $1.4357 to the euro, from $1.4282. The dollar touched 74.85
Swiss centimes before trading at 75.16, from 76.74 last week.
Greenspan predicted the economic slowdown would stop short of becoming a new
recession. “I don’t see a double dip but I do see it slowing down,”
Greenspan said.
The U.S. Treasury Department says S&P made a $2 trillion mistake in its
calculations. The department said in a statement that “there is no
justifiable rationale” for the move.
S&P isn’t ruling out the possibility of a second downgrade. The company has
a “negative outlook” on the U.S., signifying a one-in-three chance of a
cut in the next six to 24 months, John Chambers, chairman of S&P’s
sovereign debt committee, said on ABC’s “This Week.”
Another Downgrade?
“If the fiscal position of the United States deteriorates further, or if
the political gridlock becomes more entrenched, then that could lead to a
downgrade,” Chambers said.
Two other ratings companies, Moody’s Investors Service and Fitch Ratings,
affirmed their AAA credit ratings for the U.S. on Aug. 2, the day Obama
signed a bill that ended the debt-ceiling impasse. Moody’s and Fitch both
said downgrades were possible if lawmakers fail to enact debt reduction
measures and the economy weakens.
Austan Goolsbee, who stepped down last week as chairman of President Barack
Obama’s Council of Economic Advisers, said on NBC’s “Meet the Press”
that the conflict over the federal deficit was threatening to divert
attention from sagging economic growth.
“There is a danger that if we just keep saying the number one thing we have
to talk about is all about the short run deficit, we are losing sight of
the fact that we’ve got to reignite the engine of job growth,” said
Goolsbee, who is returning to his teaching position at the University of
Chicago.
‘Tea Party Downgrade’
Lawrence Summers, former top economic adviser to President Obama, called S&P
’s downgrade from AAA to AA+ “outrageous” on CNN’s “State of the Union
” and said that American families “are going to be the losers” because
House Republicans “played chicken with America’s creditworthiness.”
Democratic and Republican lawmakers traded blame for both the debt and the
downgrade.
Democratic Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts said blame lay with the Tea
Party movement and the House Republicans who he said were willing to let the
nation default rather than consider a budget compromise.
“This is the Tea Party downgrade because a minority of people in the House
of Representatives countered even the will of many Republicans in the United
States Senate,” Kerry said.
U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham, a South Carolina Republican, said Congress and
the president would have avoided losing the AAA credit rating had they
listened to Tea Party Republicans and passed $4 trillion in spending cuts.
“The Tea Party hasn’t destroyed Washington,” Graham said on CBS’s “Face
the Nation” program. “Washington was destroyed before the Tea Party got
there.”
Republican Senator John McCain of Arizona, who lost the 2008 presidential
election to Democrat Barack Obama, said the president had failed to offer a
plan to lead the country out of unsustainable budget deficits and debt.
“Don’t shoot the messenger,” McCain said. “Is there anybody that
believes that S&P is wrong in their assessment of the fiscal situation of
this country?”
m*r
3 楼
【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: manpower (cool), 信区: Military
标 题: 纽约华社最大标会会头疑倒会, 涉及金额超过2千万元
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue May 30 23:39:53 2017, 美东)
据称是纽约华社最大标会会头的“曾姑娘”。 (受害者提供)
美国亚总会主席陈善庄29日接到倒会事件受害者的求助。(崔国萁摄)
【侨报记者崔国萁5月29日纽约报道】至少经营10个标会、每个会拥有78名会脚，
被人称为“曾姑娘”的纽约华社最大标会会头疑似去向不明，由此可能酿出纽约华社最
大规模的倒会事件。据受害者29日表示，该倒会事件涉及金额超过2千万元，受害者至
少达数百名。
受该倒会事件影响的几名受害者29日前往美国亚总会求助，并讲述了事发经过。据
介绍，被大家称为“曾姑娘”的会头，今年51岁，来自福州连江。其在纽约经营标会已
长达十余年，目前手头至少有10个标会，每个会拥有78名会脚，总计会脚约有780名。
据求助的林女士介绍，“曾姑娘”的10个标会大约在三年前成立，几年间其标会从
未出过事，因此得到大家的信任，其标会也越办越大。这些标会以1000元起标，每月涉
及金额有78万元，如此计算下来此次倒会事件大约涉案金额高达两千多万元，应该算是
纽约华社中规模最大的标会倒会事件。
但林女士也承认，虽然“曾姑娘”的10个标会有780个会脚，但很多人往往是一人
占多个会脚，故受此次倒会事件影响的人实际上没有780人，但至少有数百人，而每个
人蒙受的损失从几万到几百万元都有。
据受害者江女士表示，通常曾姑娘在曼哈顿华埠爱烈治街(Eldridge St)18号举办
标会。大约从去年9月开始，每当标完钱，会脚找“曾姑娘”拿钱时，她开始以各种理
由不付钱，或少付，然后向大家开出一张借条，说以后再付清等等。但那时标会表面上
还在运行。直到今年3月28日，她们开始很难找到她，拨打其电话时也常常无人接听，
偶尔接到她的回电。
会头“曾姑娘”：正变卖自家房产，会给大家一个交代
接到受害者的求助后，亚总会主席陈善庄立即拨打了“曾姑娘”的电话，起初也是
无人接听，但很快“曾姑娘”回复了电话。据她在电话中称，她并非恶意倒会，而是标
会实在经营不下去了，因为过去几年一些会脚拿到钱后即玩“失踪”，不再依照规则补
齐标款，时间一久她无力承受。这期间，她曾尝试做生意，用赚的钱补齐差额，谁知天
不随人愿，生意不好。对于大家的投诉和焦急，她表示她正积极变卖名下的房产，一旦
房产卖出，将会偿还欠下会脚的款项。“曾姑娘”还希望大家给她点时间，等她的房产
交易后，一定会给大家一个交代。
发信人: manpower (cool), 信区: Military
标 题: 纽约华社最大标会会头疑倒会, 涉及金额超过2千万元
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue May 30 23:39:53 2017, 美东)
据称是纽约华社最大标会会头的“曾姑娘”。 (受害者提供)
美国亚总会主席陈善庄29日接到倒会事件受害者的求助。(崔国萁摄)
【侨报记者崔国萁5月29日纽约报道】至少经营10个标会、每个会拥有78名会脚，
被人称为“曾姑娘”的纽约华社最大标会会头疑似去向不明，由此可能酿出纽约华社最
大规模的倒会事件。据受害者29日表示，该倒会事件涉及金额超过2千万元，受害者至
少达数百名。
受该倒会事件影响的几名受害者29日前往美国亚总会求助，并讲述了事发经过。据
介绍，被大家称为“曾姑娘”的会头，今年51岁，来自福州连江。其在纽约经营标会已
长达十余年，目前手头至少有10个标会，每个会拥有78名会脚，总计会脚约有780名。
据求助的林女士介绍，“曾姑娘”的10个标会大约在三年前成立，几年间其标会从
未出过事，因此得到大家的信任，其标会也越办越大。这些标会以1000元起标，每月涉
及金额有78万元，如此计算下来此次倒会事件大约涉案金额高达两千多万元，应该算是
纽约华社中规模最大的标会倒会事件。
但林女士也承认，虽然“曾姑娘”的10个标会有780个会脚，但很多人往往是一人
占多个会脚，故受此次倒会事件影响的人实际上没有780人，但至少有数百人，而每个
人蒙受的损失从几万到几百万元都有。
据受害者江女士表示，通常曾姑娘在曼哈顿华埠爱烈治街(Eldridge St)18号举办
标会。大约从去年9月开始，每当标完钱，会脚找“曾姑娘”拿钱时，她开始以各种理
由不付钱，或少付，然后向大家开出一张借条，说以后再付清等等。但那时标会表面上
还在运行。直到今年3月28日，她们开始很难找到她，拨打其电话时也常常无人接听，
偶尔接到她的回电。
会头“曾姑娘”：正变卖自家房产，会给大家一个交代
接到受害者的求助后，亚总会主席陈善庄立即拨打了“曾姑娘”的电话，起初也是
无人接听，但很快“曾姑娘”回复了电话。据她在电话中称，她并非恶意倒会，而是标
会实在经营不下去了，因为过去几年一些会脚拿到钱后即玩“失踪”，不再依照规则补
齐标款，时间一久她无力承受。这期间，她曾尝试做生意，用赚的钱补齐差额，谁知天
不随人愿，生意不好。对于大家的投诉和焦急，她表示她正积极变卖名下的房产，一旦
房产卖出，将会偿还欠下会脚的款项。“曾姑娘”还希望大家给她点时间，等她的房产
交易后，一定会给大家一个交代。
w*j
4 楼
做空和买股票有仇,
有你的活就没我的活路啊.
大家快来打他
有你的活就没我的活路啊.
大家快来打他
h*o
5 楼
至道无难
唯嫌拣择
但莫憎爱
洞然明白
正所谓
天上日上时月便下，
秋天山深时水便寒
面壁是道，
空多皆真。
【在 w**j 的大作中提到】
: 做空和买股票有仇,
: 有你的活就没我的活路啊.
: 大家快来打他
唯嫌拣择
但莫憎爱
洞然明白
正所谓
天上日上时月便下，
秋天山深时水便寒
面壁是道，
空多皆真。
【在 w**j 的大作中提到】
: 做空和买股票有仇,
: 有你的活就没我的活路啊.
: 大家快来打他
w*j
6 楼
就是在他当FED头的时候把经济危机搞起来的.
然后看不行了要出事了,就退了.
c*u
7 楼
葛蛇啊.
m*l
8 楼
do you believe this:
" Standard & Poor’s downgraded the nation’s
credit rating, even as an S&P official predicted little market impact."
????
I don't blame S&P for downgrading, but how can they try to downplay this?
I loved Warren Buffett too. But would anyone willing to give US a quadruple
A rating?
美国早被掏空了
【在 w**j 的大作中提到】
:
: 就是在他当FED头的时候把经济危机搞起来的.
: 然后看不行了要出事了,就退了.
" Standard & Poor’s downgraded the nation’s
credit rating, even as an S&P official predicted little market impact."
????
I don't blame S&P for downgrading, but how can they try to downplay this?
I loved Warren Buffett too. But would anyone willing to give US a quadruple
A rating?
美国早被掏空了
【在 w**j 的大作中提到】
:
: 就是在他当FED头的时候把经济危机搞起来的.
: 然后看不行了要出事了,就退了.
v*k
9 楼
老格不是说过么，你要是明白我在说啥，你肯定错了。lol 不过我也看空
M*8
10 楼
....................
他多年来努力帮助墙街的自己人。
老中对自己人的行动则完全相反。
老中在米国地位不如黑墨三乃自取。
【在 w**j 的大作中提到】
:
: 就是在他当FED头的时候把经济危机搞起来的.
: 然后看不行了要出事了,就退了.
i*n
11 楼
这个不是你喜欢的民主党在克林顿时期搞的吗。
quadruple
【在 m********l 的大作中提到】
: do you believe this:
: " Standard & Poor’s downgraded the nation’s
: credit rating, even as an S&P official predicted little market impact."
: ????
: I don't blame S&P for downgrading, but how can they try to downplay this?
: I loved Warren Buffett too. But would anyone willing to give US a quadruple
: A rating?
: 美国早被掏空了
quadruple
【在 m********l 的大作中提到】
: do you believe this:
: " Standard & Poor’s downgraded the nation’s
: credit rating, even as an S&P official predicted little market impact."
: ????
: I don't blame S&P for downgrading, but how can they try to downplay this?
: I loved Warren Buffett too. But would anyone willing to give US a quadruple
: A rating?
: 美国早被掏空了
m*l
12 楼
有人真是善忘 （NC?)
如果克林顿时期的美国被掏空了， 那， BUSH哪有钱给富人？
【在 i*********n 的大作中提到】
: 这个不是你喜欢的民主党在克林顿时期搞的吗。
:
: quadruple
如果克林顿时期的美国被掏空了， 那， BUSH哪有钱给富人？
【在 i*********n 的大作中提到】
: 这个不是你喜欢的民主党在克林顿时期搞的吗。
:
: quadruple
i*n
13 楼
知道affordable housing是谁搞的吗？
【在 m********l 的大作中提到】
: 有人真是善忘 （NC?)
: 如果克林顿时期的美国被掏空了， 那， BUSH哪有钱给富人？
【在 m********l 的大作中提到】
: 有人真是善忘 （NC?)
: 如果克林顿时期的美国被掏空了， 那， BUSH哪有钱给富人？
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