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川普的废除出生即公民的权利 (转载)

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s*h2018-10-31 07:10

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s*e2018-10-31 07:10

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听说要手续费了，是吗？
还有delta的怎么这么不值钱？国际单程要6w迈！

f*u2018-10-31 07:10

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【以下文字转载自 Immigration 讨论区】
发信人: mja (majia), 信区: Immigration
标题: 川普的废除出生即公民的权利
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Oct 30 12:45:10 2018, 美东)
参见 https://www.axios.com/trump-birthright-citizenship-executive-order-
0cf4285a-16c6-48f2-a933-bd71fd72ea82.html
EO包括两种non-citizens and unauthorized immigrants
President Trump plans to sign an executive order that would remove the right
to citizenship for babies of non-citizens and unauthorized immigrants born
on
U.S. soil
H1B和F1生的娃都不是公民，但绿卡生娃不受影响：The Supreme Court has already
ruled that children born to immigrants who are legal permanent residents
have citizenship.
板上有人说这无所谓，因为娃即使不是公民，最后也和父母一起移民。但是如果你当时
生娃还不是绿卡持有者时，律师问你你的娃是要直接公民还是随着父母的移民状态，绝
大多数都会选择直接公民。作为新移民，这个EO显然不友好。
如果真的是打击非移，那为什么连合法的non-citizen也包括进来？难道不能只排除非
移和所谓的anchor baby（B1/B2）？因为WH看来，非移和合法移都是需要控制的。
人不能过河拆桥，自己上岸就不想让别人上船。好的政策是精准打击的。现任显然很精
准，只是打击面有意识的大，他就是看这么多移民不爽，不管是非移还是合法移民。他
倒是喜欢挪威移民(参见下链接)，咱们长得像挪威人吗？还是歇着吧。
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2018/01/12/577673191/trump-wishes-
we-had-more-immigrants-from-norway-turns-out-we-once-did
另外，不是natural-born citizen，竞选不了总统和副总统。所以直接公民还是随着父
母移民是有区别的。
Michael Anton, a former national security adviser for Trump, pointed out in
July that "there’s a clause in the middle of the amendment that people
ignore or they misinterpret – subject to the jurisdiction thereof.”
"What they are saying is, if you are born on U.S. soil subject to the
jurisdiction of the United States – meaning you’re the child of citizens
or the child of legal immigrants, then you are entitled to citizenship,”
Anton told Fox News’ Tucker Carlson in July. “If you are here illegally,
if you owe allegiance to a foreign nation, if you’re the citizen of a
foreign country, that clause does not apply to you.”