Android被发现直接copy java的源代码 http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/21/oops-android-contains-direct copied-java-code-strengthening/ Oops: Android contains directly copied Java code, strengthening Oracle's case Florian Mueller has been killing it these past few months with his analysis of various tech patent suits on his FOSSpatents blog, and today he's unearthed a pretty major bombshell: at least 43 Android source files that appear to have been directly copied from Java. That's a big deal, seeing as Oracle is currently suing Google for patent and copyright infringement in Android -- which isn't a hard case to prove when you've got 37 Android source files marked "PROPRIETARY / CONFIDENTIAL" and "DO NOT DISTRIBUTE" by Oracle / Sun and at least six more files in Froyo and Gingerbread that appear to have been decompiled from Java 2 Standard Edition and redistributed under the Apache open source license without permission. In simple terms? Google copied Oracle's Java code, pasted in a new license, and shipped it. Now, we've long thought Google's odd response to Oracle's lawsuit seemingly acknowledged some infringement, so we doubt this is a surprise in Mountain View, but we're guessing handset vendors aren't going to be so thrilled -- especially since using Android has already caused companies like HTC and Motorola to be hit with major patent lawsuits of their own. We'll see what happens, but in the meantime you should definitely hit up Florian's site for the full dirt -- it's some 47 pages worth of material, and it's dense, but if you're into this sort of thing it's incredibly interesting.
【在 m****u 的大作中提到】 : Android被发现直接copy java的源代码 : http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/21/oops-android-contains-direct : copied-java-code-strengthening/ : Oops: Android contains directly copied Java code, strengthening Oracle's : case : Florian Mueller has been killing it these past few months with his : analysis of various tech patent suits on his FOSSpatents blog, and today : he's unearthed a pretty major bombshell: at least 43 Android source : files that appear to have been directly copied from Java. That's a big : deal, seeing as Oracle is currently suing Google for patent and
n*3
6 楼
look at the approach of Google did to google book, use the book first, get the market share first.. then wait for the law suite. They can hire best lawyer,so they can ignore those authors.. Who says "DO not be evil?"... any see who is the blue evil now? 婊子&pai fang , they want both!
【在 e******e 的大作中提到】 : 我有点晕了。难道google不怕有一天被查出来?
l*o
7 楼
very very nb.
【在 m****u 的大作中提到】 : Android被发现直接copy java的源代码 : http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/21/oops-android-contains-direct : copied-java-code-strengthening/ : Oops: Android contains directly copied Java code, strengthening Oracle's : case : Florian Mueller has been killing it these past few months with his : analysis of various tech patent suits on his FOSSpatents blog, and today : he's unearthed a pretty major bombshell: at least 43 Android source : files that appear to have been directly copied from Java. That's a big : deal, seeing as Oracle is currently suing Google for patent and
b*7
8 楼
LOL. GOOGLE里哪个老印搞的吧?
s*n
9 楼
this must be not true. google never do evil. Google will do not do something evil like that.
【在 m****u 的大作中提到】 : Android被发现直接copy java的源代码 : http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/21/oops-android-contains-direct : copied-java-code-strengthening/ : Oops: Android contains directly copied Java code, strengthening Oracle's : case : Florian Mueller has been killing it these past few months with his : analysis of various tech patent suits on his FOSSpatents blog, and today : he's unearthed a pretty major bombshell: at least 43 Android source : files that appear to have been directly copied from Java. That's a big : deal, seeing as Oracle is currently suing Google for patent and
t*a
10 楼
这里是另外一边的看法 Ed Burnette from zdnet - Oops: No copied Java code or weapons of mass destruction found in Android http://www.zdnet.com/blog/burnette/oops-no-copied-java-code-or- Sometimes the sheer wrongness of what is posted on the web leaves us speechless. Especially when it’s picked up and repeated as gospel by otherwise reputable sites like Engadget. “Google copied Oracle’s Java code, pasted in a new license, and shipped it,” they reported this morning. Sorry, but that just isn’t true. It all started with an article written by Florian Mueller, who by the way is neither a lawyer nor a developer although he plays one on TV. I downloaded and examined all the files he wrote about, and my analysis as an expert developer comes to a completely different conclusion than Mr. Mueller. Here’s what I found: There are two sets of files in question. The first set of 7 (PolicyNodeImpl.java, AclEntryImpl.java, AclImpl.java, GroupImpl.java, OwnerImpl.java, PermissionImpl.java, and PrincipalImpl.java) are in the unit test area of the source code tree. As any programmer will tell you, you don’t ship your unit tests with your product. Unit tests are tools used internally to ensure the quality of the software before you ship it. The second set of 37 files is actually zipped up into one file called MMAPI.zip and tucked away in a directory used for native code audio drivers for one particular type of chip set. Florian really had to go digging for this one. I double-checked the make files and it’s clear this file is not shipped with Android either. Somebody uploaded it by mistake and it should simply be deleted. I did find one odd thing about the first 7 files. Sun published those files on its web site to help developers debug and test their own code. For some reason, the Android or Harmony developer who was using them decompiled and rebuilt them instead of just using the ones from Sun. Later an Apache license got incorrectly pasted to the top of the files, perhaps by some automated script. The solution to this earth shattering conspiracy? Replace them with the original files from Sun which have the correct comments. Or just delete them. After all, they’re not shipped with Android. Updated: Looks like Google has already taken care of these files. PolicyNodeImpl.java was deleted from the source tree on 30 Oct 2010. The other 6 java files and a few others were deleted on 14 Jan 2011. The commit comment from developer Dan Bornstein reads “Remove pointless tests”. You can still go back through the history to see the old versions. Sadly, while sensational articles like Engadget’s and Mueller’s will get splashed all over the web and lavished with thousands of views and hundreds of comments, the boring truth will rate no such attention.
【在 m****u 的大作中提到】 : Android被发现直接copy java的源代码 : http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/21/oops-android-contains-direct : copied-java-code-strengthening/ : Oops: Android contains directly copied Java code, strengthening Oracle's : case : Florian Mueller has been killing it these past few months with his : analysis of various tech patent suits on his FOSSpatents blog, and today : he's unearthed a pretty major bombshell: at least 43 Android source : files that appear to have been directly copied from Java. That's a big : deal, seeing as Oracle is currently suing Google for patent and
s*6
11 楼
android是google买来的,不知道这个抄袭是发生在买之前还是买之后。
a*a
12 楼
这都不是第一次了
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】 : this must be not true. : google never do evil. : Google will do not do something evil like that.
f*m
13 楼
Thanks for sharing. but those apple fan boys and ideological google haters don't have the capacity in their brains to absorb this investigation.
of-mass-destruction-found-in-android/2162
【在 t******a 的大作中提到】 : 这里是另外一边的看法 Ed Burnette from zdnet - Oops: No copied : Java code or weapons of mass destruction found in Android : http://www.zdnet.com/blog/burnette/oops-no-copied-java-code-or- : Sometimes the sheer wrongness of what is posted on the web : leaves us speechless. Especially when it’s picked up and : repeated as gospel by otherwise reputable sites like Engadget. : “Google copied Oracle’s Java code, pasted in a new license, : and shipped it,” they reported this morning. : Sorry, but that just isn’t true. : It all started with an article written by Florian Mueller,
【在 t******a 的大作中提到】 : 这里是另外一边的看法 Ed Burnette from zdnet - Oops: No copied : Java code or weapons of mass destruction found in Android : http://www.zdnet.com/blog/burnette/oops-no-copied-java-code-or- : Sometimes the sheer wrongness of what is posted on the web : leaves us speechless. Especially when it’s picked up and : repeated as gospel by otherwise reputable sites like Engadget. : “Google copied Oracle’s Java code, pasted in a new license, : and shipped it,” they reported this morning. : Sorry, but that just isn’t true. : It all started with an article written by Florian Mueller,
z*r
15 楼
打回去重新写英语
【在 s********n 的大作中提到】 : this must be not true. : google never do evil. : Google will do not do something evil like that.
p*r
16 楼
Madam, this analysis is BS. Unit test code IS real code, regardless of you ship it or not. You can't steal code into your company's internal tool and claim: "hei, we are not thieves. Even though we've made money on products supported by this unit test and internal tool, we are not shipping the code."
【在 f********m 的大作中提到】 : Thanks for sharing. : but those apple fan boys and ideological google haters don't have the : capacity in their brains to absorb this investigation. : : of-mass-destruction-found-in-android/2162
【在 p******r 的大作中提到】 : Madam, this analysis is BS. Unit test code IS real code, regardless : of you ship it or not. You can't steal code into your company's internal : tool and claim: "hei, we are not thieves. Even though we've made money : on products supported by this unit test and internal tool, we are not : shipping the code."
P*f
19 楼
I think it might be a complicated case. not sure how would it impact the lawsuit
【在 f********m 的大作中提到】 : it all depends on Java's license, pussy.
f*m
20 楼
some money will change hands for sure. IP lawyers will win eventually. It is just so annoying to see ppl jumping out to defend their apple fanhood and/or ideology.
【在 P*****f 的大作中提到】 : I think it might be a complicated case. not sure how would it impact the : lawsuit
a*a
21 楼
啥?还有这事?我孤陋了
【在 z**r 的大作中提到】 : android现在也不是google的了,已经分离出去了
s*r
22 楼
"apple fanhood"? You are the only person in this thread keeping mentioning apple. You are indeed a google retard.
【在 f********m 的大作中提到】 : some money will change hands for sure. IP lawyers will win eventually. : It is just so annoying to see ppl jumping out to defend their apple : fanhood and/or ideology.
j*n
23 楼
Very interesting. the question is that if google copy the code, then used them for a while, and then delete them, is it still be pirate?
of-mass-destruction-found-in-android/2162
【在 t******a 的大作中提到】 : 这里是另外一边的看法 Ed Burnette from zdnet - Oops: No copied : Java code or weapons of mass destruction found in Android : http://www.zdnet.com/blog/burnette/oops-no-copied-java-code-or- : Sometimes the sheer wrongness of what is posted on the web : leaves us speechless. Especially when it’s picked up and : repeated as gospel by otherwise reputable sites like Engadget. : “Google copied Oracle’s Java code, pasted in a new license, : and shipped it,” they reported this morning. : Sorry, but that just isn’t true. : It all started with an article written by Florian Mueller,
G*s
24 楼
google is the US government - a bitch that claims it's not. apple is the chinese government - a bitch that does not even bother explaining to anyone.
a*a
25 楼
good
【在 G****s 的大作中提到】 : google is the US government - a bitch that claims it's not. : apple is the chinese government - a bitch that does not even bother : explaining to anyone.
j*n
26 楼
no wonder the people here do not like apple like google hehe
【在 G****s 的大作中提到】 : google is the US government - a bitch that claims it's not. : apple is the chinese government - a bitch that does not even bother : explaining to anyone.
【在 j****n 的大作中提到】 : no wonder the people here do not like apple like google : hehe
P*f
28 楼
no, google will never be us goverment. Facebook is.
【在 G****s 的大作中提到】 : google is the US government - a bitch that claims it's not. : apple is the chinese government - a bitch that does not even bother : explaining to anyone.
【在 f********m 的大作中提到】 : Thanks for sharing. : but those apple fan boys and ideological google haters don't have the : capacity in their brains to absorb this investigation. : : of-mass-destruction-found-in-android/2162
like people already mentioned, depends on the license in the case of computer game you illegally download a game, play it, then delete it it is piracy...
【在 j****n 的大作中提到】 : Very interesting. : the question is that if google copy the code, then used them for a : while, and then delete them, is it still be pirate? : : of-mass-destruction-found-in-android/2162
N*w
36 楼
私人 piracy 一般不犯法 不扩散就行 连卫星解码器都可以自用,只是不能卖
【在 c****n 的大作中提到】 : like people already mentioned, depends on the license : in the case of computer game : you illegally download a game, play it, then delete it : it is piracy...
s*i
37 楼
就是就是,找那个逻辑,我装盗版windows开发软件去卖,微软没有理由过问?
【在 p******r 的大作中提到】 : Madam, this analysis is BS. Unit test code IS real code, regardless : of you ship it or not. You can't steal code into your company's internal : tool and claim: "hei, we are not thieves. Even though we've made money : on products supported by this unit test and internal tool, we are not : shipping the code."
【在 m****u 的大作中提到】 : Android被发现直接copy java的源代码 : http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/21/oops-android-contains-direct : copied-java-code-strengthening/ : Oops: Android contains directly copied Java code, strengthening Oracle's : case : Florian Mueller has been killing it these past few months with his : analysis of various tech patent suits on his FOSSpatents blog, and today : he's unearthed a pretty major bombshell: at least 43 Android source : files that appear to have been directly copied from Java. That's a big : deal, seeing as Oracle is currently suing Google for patent and
g*t
42 楼
【在 m****u 的大作中提到】 : Android被发现直接copy java的源代码 : http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/21/oops-android-contains-direct : copied-java-code-strengthening/ : Oops: Android contains directly copied Java code, strengthening Oracle's : case : Florian Mueller has been killing it these past few months with his : analysis of various tech patent suits on his FOSSpatents blog, and today : he's unearthed a pretty major bombshell: at least 43 Android source : files that appear to have been directly copied from Java. That's a big : deal, seeing as Oracle is currently suing Google for patent and