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manbeing (牛奶儿) 于 (Tue Apr 3 13:22:49 2012, 美东) 提到:
本来对于使用AP没有任何疑问，可是刚才律师说这个是个灰色地段，用了AP会影响H1B
status。因为如果是用AP入境，入境的时候海关会给一张新的I-94，上面写的是AOS（
有效期是一年），I-94是我们在美国合法身份的文件。换句话说一旦用AP入境，我们就
成了patrol status了。将来如果要延H1B，就拿不出有效的I-94了。
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milla (mimi) 于 (Tue Apr 3 13:58:58 2012, 美东) 提到:
Why you need to renew your H-1B since you will get your green card
eventually ?
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manbeing (牛奶儿) 于 (Tue Apr 3 14:01:53 2012, 美东) 提到:
照这个势头，backlog会很长。万一485有什么问题，还有H1B保底。
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ModelWife3 (萎琐王爷) 于 (Tue Apr 3 14:04:22 2012, 美东) 提到:
好计算，这样能保证做稳了奴才。。。
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manbeing (牛奶儿) 于 (Tue Apr 3 14:06:22 2012, 美东) 提到:
拿H1b工作和奴才有关系吗？
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chugege (出格) 于 (Tue Apr 3 14:09:16 2012, 美东) 提到:
你以为回国就不是奴才了嘛。这年头除了家里当官做生意有点背景的谁敢裸归。
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buzhidao77 (不知道) 于 (Tue Apr 3 14:13:24 2012, 美东) 提到:
用Ead啊。
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milla (mimi) 于 (Tue Apr 3 14:14:25 2012, 美东) 提到:
How many years can you still use H1B? If 485 is rejected then why stay in
USA for another couple of years if you won't be able to apply Eb1? Plus, if
your 140 is approved, what is the odd of your 485 gets rejected? I believe
it is very small.
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endeavor (奋斗不息) 于 (Tue Apr 3 15:03:30 2012, 美东) 提到:
I agree. If anyone is concerned that I485 would be rejected so that the safe
bet is to continue using H1B, why apply for EAD in the first place?
The chance that I485 got rejected after I140 approval is very small.
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manbeing (牛奶儿) 于 (Tue Apr 3 15:05:42 2012, 美东) 提到:
申请AP和EAD都是不要钱的。为什么不申请？
你不申请，也是要付$1070.
safe
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chugege (出格) 于 (Tue Apr 3 15:14:43 2012, 美东) 提到:
这个是不是万一你要用了AP回国，回来就是EAD身份了吧。
Choice总是多一个好一个不是？
safe
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manbeing (牛奶儿) 于 (Tue Apr 3 15:19:40 2012, 美东) 提到:
不是EAD身份，是patrol身份。
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chugege (出格) 于 (Tue Apr 3 16:11:26 2012, 美东) 提到:
thanks for the correction. but what about the working visa status of patrol?
Is it OK to work in the states? Still using H1b? I am totally confused.
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paopaodou (巴布豆) 于 (Tue Apr 3 16:16:52 2012, 美东) 提到:
[转贴]
发信人: goy (有生之年狭路相逢终不能幸免), 信区: EB23
标 题: Re: H1B的797仍有效，签证过期，用EAD/AP卡入境 (转载)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Apr 3 15:32:41 2012, 美东)
谢谢你的详细解答和reference。我节选贴在这里供大家参考：
当你以 AP 入境时，你仍然要填写 I-94 出入境卡。由于你没有使用 Visa 入境，第
10 项 City Where Visa Was Issued 和 11 项 Date Issued (Day/Mo/Yr) 有关签证的
项，可分别填写为 "USCIS" 和 AP 上右上角的日期，或留空。
在你的 I-94 卡上，标明的有效期是一年。这是不是意味着一年之后你的身份就失效了
呢？
No，还是同样的原因，USCIS 原本以为一年的时间足够调整你的身份了。USCIS 不会因
为你的 AP 的I-94 卡过期了而认为你的身份有任何的违例，你也不需要一定在I-94 卡
过期之前进行身份的转换或延期。你唯一要做的就是，在下一次出境的时候，把I-94
卡交回去好了，不管其是否过期。还有的同学看到使用 AP 入境的 I-94 上有 AOS 或
Parole 的字样，就忧心冲冲，纯属自寻烦恼。虽然 I-94 上盖了 AOS，你的 H-1/4 爱
延爱转，听从尊便。
的影
就过了，如果没有出境的计划，不用续，要用再续。AP不是身份证件
patrol?
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manbeing (牛奶儿) 于 (Tue Apr 3 16:50:21 2012, 美东) 提到:
看看这段：
“It is a common misconception that entering the U.S. on a valid AP will not
impact one's H1B (or L-1) status. An individual with a pending I-485
application, who is eligible to enter in H1B (or L-1) status, may do so
without abandoning the I-485 application. Using the AP to enter the U.S.,
however, terminates one's nonimmigrant H1B (or L-1) status”
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paopaodou (巴布豆) 于 (Tue Apr 3 20:01:59 2012, 美东) 提到:
这下我糊涂了，你这个是你律师的解释吧？ 板上大牛们知道谁是对的吗？ 皮匠还是这
个律师？
not
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MDX (huh?what??) 于 (Wed Apr 4 09:52:59 2012, 美东) 提到:
确实是会把 H1B转成AOS，但问题是下次续签的时候就又转回来了，这个是特殊的地方
，可以说影响是暂时的。
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paopaodou (巴布豆) 于 (Wed Apr 4 10:18:58 2012, 美东) 提到:
Thanks for the clearing up! Did you have this kind of experience personally
or from your friends?
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redyellowblu (redyellowblu) 于 (Wed Apr 4 10:42:11 2012, 美东) 提到:
请问“下次续签的时候就又转回来了”
能详细说明一下吗？谢谢
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fibril (游来荡去) 于 (Wed Apr 4 10:57:46 2012, 美东) 提到:
不是说交了485就不能在renew H1b了吗？所以就无所谓了吧。
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lettuce137 (lettuce137) 于 (Wed Apr 4 11:05:47 2012, 美东) 提到:
这个说的不对，AP=一种入境VISA。对其他签证没有更改/OVERWRITE的功能。这个律师
自己发挥的
not
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paopaodou (巴布豆) 于 (Wed Apr 4 11:20:39 2012, 美东) 提到:
This makes more sense. Can anyone share some personal experience to verify
this or the claim by "manbeing"'s lawyer?
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lettuce137 (lettuce137) 于 (Wed Apr 4 11:28:27 2012, 美东) 提到:
我前面没说明白，AP=签证的一种，不能OVERWRITE/更改身份（STATUS）。H1B（i-797
）是身份。
没有AP，我们拿着身份（I-797）去使馆申请回美国的签证（这个是指贴在护照那张
VISA）。
AP和H1B STATUS是苹果和桔子的关系。
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MDX (huh?what??) 于 (Wed Apr 4 11:49:07 2012, 美东) 提到:
797
使用过AP后，I-94上写AOS，系统里的H1B就没了，能查到的就是AOS。我是去办驾照的
时候发现的，说我的移民状态就是AOS，到期日就是入境之后一年，H1B查不到了，所以
不给我办，要我用EAD。可是我是有H1B的，没有用过EAD,只好去补办EAD，因为H1b还不到续签的时候
。如果正好到续签的话，大概就没有问题了。
皮匠的文章对AP、H1b说的很清楚了，他的引用文件中也说明了H1b的特殊性，甚至可以
不用申请AP就离美，以H1B返签，并不造成放弃485的结果。AOS的话就一定要有AP才能
离境，不然485就废了。
我现在想的问题是，如果现在我需要回国，那么是不是要申请AP呢因为我是AOS，不然
就自动废弃485？或者等H1b续签后，这样我就被恢复了H1b，就不会有这个问题，离美
的时候就可以选择拿AP或用H1b回来。
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johninfl (johninfl) 于 (Wed Apr 4 11:58:12 2012, 美东) 提到:
当官的也得给更高的官做奴才。
做生意的更得做奴才：讨好工商税务部门，讨好当官的，讨好顾客。
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lettuce137 (lettuce137) 于 (Wed Apr 4 12:15:18 2012, 美东) 提到:
办驾照用EAD不算真用EAD。
不到续签的时候
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MDX (huh?what??) 于 (Wed Apr 4 12:33:48 2012, 美东) 提到:
用AP也不算用EAD，至少对H1b持有人不算，但确实改变了系统中的记录。所以我就多想
了一下。
还是仔细看皮匠的文章吧。我的结论是，单独AP的使用对H1b不产生实质性的影响，只
要你没有用过EAD工作。
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leonquick (leon) 于 (Wed Apr 4 12:41:31 2012, 美东) 提到:
ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS
For H & L Visaholders
INS Field Memorandum Regarding Adjustment of Status for H and L Visaholders
(May 2000)
U.S. Department of Justice
Immigration and Naturalization Service
425 I Street NW
Washington, DC 20536
HQADJ 70/ 2.8.6, 2.8.12, 10.18
AD 00-03
AMENDED VERSION
MEMORANDUM FOR
REGIONAL DIRECTORS
SERVICE CENTER DIRECTORS
DISTRICT DIRECTORS
OFFICERS IN CHARGE
ASYLUM DIRECTORS
PORT DIRECTORS
FROM:
MICHAEL D. CRONIN
ACTING ASSOCIATE COMMISSIONER
OFFICE OF PROGRAMS
SUBJECT: AFM Update: Revision of March 14, 2000 Dual Intent Memorandum
This memorandum supersedes and amends the March 14, 2000 memorandum on
dual intent for H-1 and L-1 nonimmigrants with pending applications
foradjustment of status, which changes the Adjudicator's Field Manual,
Chapter 23.
Please note that the Service intends to address these issues
definitively when the Service finalizes the interim rule published on June 1
, 1999, at 64 Fed. Reg. 29,208 (1999). When the final rule enters into force
, the final rule, not this memorandum, will be controlling.
1. In Chapter 23 of the Adjudicator's Field Manual, the questions
and answers added at APPENDIX 23-4, entitled FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
ABOUT TRAVEL OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES BY AN H-I OR L-1 NONIMMIGRANT WHO HAS
APPLIED FOR ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS: by the March 14, 2000 memorandum, are
removed and replaced with the questions and answers below:
1. If an H-1 or L-1 nonimmigrant has filed for adjustment of status
under an employment-based preference category that requires an offer of
employment in the United States, does the interim rule affect the applicant'
s responsibility to establish his/her intent to work for the petitioning
entity?
No. If an H-1 or L-1 has filed for adjustment of status under an
employment-based preference category that requires an offer of employment in
the United States, the applicant still has the responsibility of
establishing his/her intent to work for the petitioning entity after
becoming a permanent resident. Neither the rule nor the guidance has
modified this requirement or the corresponding requirement that the employer
establish his/her intent to employ the applicant.
In the interim rule and initial guidance, the term "open-market
employment" was used to mean unrestricted access to employment. Applicants
with pending applications for adjustment of status are eligible to apply for
an employment authorization document (EAD). With an EAD, an alien has
access to unrestricted employment, the "openmarket". However, if the
applicant is adjusting status under an employment-based preference category
that requires an offer of employment in the United States, the fact that an
applicant is able to work in the open-market does not alter the applicant's
. responsibility to demonstrate an intent to work for the petitioning
employer.
2. If an H-1 or L-1 nonimmigrant or H-4 or L-2 dependent family member
obtains an EAD based on their application for adjustment of status but does
not use it to obtain employment, is the alien still maintaining his/her
nonimmigrant status?
Yes. The fact that an H or L nonimmigrant is granted an EAD does not
cause the alien to violate his/her nonimmigrant status. There may be
legitimate reasons for an H or L nonimmigrant to apply for an EAD on the
basis of a pending application for adjustment of status. However, an H-I or
L-1 nonimmigrant will violate his/her nonimmigrant status if s/he uses the
EAD to leave the employer listed on the approved 1-129 petition and engage
in employment for a separate employer.
3. If an H-1 or L-1 nonimmigrant has traveled abroad and was paroled
into the United States via advance parole, the alien is accordingly in
parole status. Does this interim rule allow him or her to now apply for an
extension of nonimmigrant status?
Until the final rule is published, an alien who was an H-1 or L-1
nonimmigrant, but who was paroled pursuant to a grant of advance parole, may
apply for an extension of H-1 or L-1 status, if there is a valid and
approved petition. If the Service approves the alien's application for an
extension of nonimmigrant status, the decision granting such an extension
will have the effect of terminating the grant of parole and admitting the
alien in the relevant nonimmigrant classification.
4. If an H-1 or L-1 nonimmigrant has traveled abroad and reentered the
United States via advance parole, the alien is accordingly in parole status.
How does the interim rule affect that alien's employment authorization?
A Service memorandum dated August 5, 1997, stated that an "adjustment
applicant's otherwise valid and unexpired nonimmigrant employment
authorization... is not terminated by his or her temporary departure from
the United States, if prior to such departure the applicant obtained advance
parole in accordance with 8 CFR 245.2(a)(4)(ii)." The Service intends to
clarify this issue in the final rule. Until then, if the alien's H-1 or L-1
employment authorization would not have expired, had the alien not left and
returned under advance parole, the Service will not consider a paroled
adjustment applicant's failure to obtain a separate employment authorization
document to mean that the paroled adjustment applicant engaged in
unauthorized employment by working for the H- I or L-1 employer between the
date of his or her parole and the date to be specified in the final rule.
5. Should an alien returning to the United States from travel abroad who
has a valid 1-512 and a valid H-1 or L-1 nonimmigrant visa be paroled in or
readmitted in H-1 or L-1 status?
If an alien has a valid H-1or L-1 nonimmigrant visa and is eligible for
H-1 or L- 1 nonimmigrant status and also has a valid Form I-512, he or she
may be readmitted into H-1 or L-1 status or be paroled into the United
States. It is the alien's prerogative to present either document at
inspection. However, if an alien presents both a valid H-1 or L-1
nonimmigrant visa and a valid Form I-512, and the alien is eligible for the
H-1 or L-1 nonimmigrant classification, the Service should inform the alien
that H-1 and L-1 nonimmigrants no longer need to use advance parole to
preserve pending applications for adjustment of status and should admit the
alien in H-1 or L-1 nonimmigrant status. The fact that an alien has applied
for advance parole and received Form I-512 does not compel him or her to use
the advance parole.
If the alien is not admissible as an H- I or L-I nonimmigrant, then he
or she cannot be readmitted as an H- I or L-I nonimmigrant. Instead, such an
alien may be paroled into the United States.
6. Is an alien who has a multiple entry I-512 and who has previously
been paroled into the United States now eligible for admission as an H-1 or
L-1 if he or she is still in possession of a valid H-1 or L-1 visa?
Yes, the alien may be admitted as an H-1 or L-1. However, aliens
returning from abroad may only be admitted as an H-1 or L-1 when they have a
valid H-1 or L-1 visa (unless visa exempt), remain eligible for H-1 or L-1
classification, and, where there has been a recent change of employer or
extension of stay, have evidence of an approved I-129 petition in the form
of a Notice of Action, Form I-797, indicating approval or a notation on the
nonimmigrant visa indicating the petition number and the employer's name. If
they do not meet these criteria, then they use their I-512.
In Chapter 15.4 of the Inspector's Field Manual, the Special
Note A for nonimmigrant classification H-1 B should be revised to read as
follows:
(A) Foreign residence requirement. H-1 B does not have to
establish he or she has a foreign residence. For information pertaining to
dual intent, see AFM Appendix, 23-4.
In Chapter 15.4 of the Inspector's Field Manual, add Special
Note E for nonimmigrant classification L-1 to read as follows:
(B) Dual intent. For discussion of applicability of dual intent
, see AFM Appendix 23-4.
Field Inquiries
All operational regional program units should familiarize themselves
with this memorandum and related procedures in order to be responsive to any
inquiry from the field. Questions regarding this memorandum may be directed
, through appropriate supervisory channels to HQADN. For issues concerning H
or L status, contact John Brown or Irene Hoffman, respectively, at 202-353-
8177. For issues concerning advance parole, contact Michael Valverde at 202-
514-4754.
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leonquick (leon) 于 (Wed Apr 4 12:42:13 2012, 美东) 提到:
昨天律师给了一份这个文件。copy在这里。大家研究研究。
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lettuce137 (lettuce137) 于 (Wed Apr 4 13:53:57 2012, 美东) 提到:
这写的很清楚，PAROLEE 想转会NON-IMMIGRANT是可以的，只要是有效申请。
PAROLE本意就是“假释”，就是海关把你放进来，因为海关没有权利不让你进，你有移
民局给的AP， 进来你自己愿意转身份是你自己的事，不转就当PAROLEE也合法。看你自
己对485有多少信心。
3. If an H-1 or L-1 nonimmigrant has traveled abroad and was paroled
into the United States via advance parole, the alien is accordingly in
parole status. Does this interim rule allow him or her to now apply for an
extension of nonimmigrant status?
Until the final rule is published, an alien who was an H-1 or L-1
nonimmigrant, but who was paroled pursuant to a grant of advance parole, may
apply for an extension of H-1 or L-1 status, if there is a valid and
approved petition. If the Service approves the alien's application for an
extension of nonimmigrant status, the decision granting such an extension
will have the effect of terminating the grant of parole and admitting the
alien in the relevant nonimmigrant classification.
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lettuce137 (lettuce137) 于 (Wed Apr 4 13:54:47 2012, 美东) 提到:
这写的很清楚，PAROLEE 想转会NON-IMMIGRANT是可以的，只要是有效申请。
PAROLE本意就是“假释”，就是海关把你放进来，因为海关没有权利不让你进，你有移
民局给的AP， 进来你自己愿意转身份是你自己的事，不转就当PAROLEE也合法。看你自
己对485有多少信心。
3. If an H-1 or L-1 nonimmigrant has traveled abroad and was paroled
into the United States via advance parole, the alien is accordingly in
parole status. Does this interim rule allow him or her to now apply for an
extension of nonimmigrant status?
Until the final rule is published, an alien who was an H-1 or L-1
nonimmigrant, but who was paroled pursuant to a grant of advance parole, may
apply for an extension of H-1 or L-1 status, if there is a valid and
approved petition. If the Service approves the alien's application for an
extension of nonimmigrant status, the decision granting such an extension
will have the effect of terminating the grant of parole and admitting the
alien in the relevant nonimmigrant classification.
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Gump ((Forrest)) 于 (Wed Apr 4 14:47:07 2012, 美东) 提到:
所以结论是:
1)使用AP会终止H1/L1，进入AOS, 但可以从AOS转回H1/L1
2)使用EAD会终止H1/L1，进入AOS, 但不能从AOS转回H1/L1?
但何时可以恢复H1， 是不是入境后就可以办，怎么办呢？
may
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billniu (billniu) 于 (Wed Apr 4 14:53:28 2012, 美东) 提到:
1的结论不对。
使用ap只是变成parole,不是aos. 其实还是用h1工作，因为没用ead.
重新renew/申请h1就回到h1.
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Gump ((Forrest)) 于 (Wed Apr 4 14:59:14 2012, 美东) 提到:
移民系统里记录的是AOS，看24楼的贴子.
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lettuce137 (lettuce137) 于 (Wed Apr 4 15:00:41 2012, 美东) 提到:
终止我觉得不准确。好多人就是被中止给吓住了。
ＰＡＲＯＬＥＥ和Ｈ１Ｂ不是互相替代的，是两类状态。只要你不用ＥＡＤ，还照常工
作，那你用的就是Ｈ１Ｂ，但也是ＰＡＲＯＬＥＥ。
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lettuce137 (lettuce137) 于 (Wed Apr 4 15:04:17 2012, 美东) 提到:
如果想拿ＡＰ回国，回来又担心４８５，还要转回Ｈ１Ｂ，我觉得有点多余。还不如直
接Ｈ１Ｂ反潜呢，瞎折腾啥啊。ＡＰ就是图方便。
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manbeing (牛奶儿) 于 (Wed Apr 4 15:04:47 2012, 美东) 提到:
错！使用AP入境，海关给你的I-94上写的是AOS。
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billniu (billniu) 于 (Wed Apr 4 15:06:11 2012, 美东) 提到:
你只要申请485了就是进入aos.
但是你没用ead就是用原来的h1工作，h1就还是valid. 用ap和h1或ead没关系。
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Gump ((Forrest)) 于 (Wed Apr 4 15:07:37 2012, 美东) 提到:
可是移民系统里记录的是AOS,H1B查不到了啊，怎么是H1B?
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billniu (billniu) 于 (Wed Apr 4 15:07:44 2012, 美东) 提到:
你只要申请485了你就是aos.
这里讨论的是使用ap 或485对h1 l1的影响
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billniu (billniu) 于 (Wed Apr 4 15:09:42 2012, 美东) 提到:
你递485就是aos, h1也valid 只要没用ead.
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Gump ((Forrest)) 于 (Wed Apr 4 15:15:41 2012, 美东) 提到:
递485是AOS,但移民系统里记录的是H1B
使用AP, 移民系统里记录的只有AOS.
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billniu (billniu) 于 (Wed Apr 4 15:24:28 2012, 美东) 提到:
前面这么多讨论，帖子，意思很明显了。
递了485就是aos, 移民系统里有没update不重要。
使用ap进出，移民系统就update to aos
但是h1也还是有效。假设renew/申请h1,移民系统又给改回h1,其实还是aos h1都在
只有使用ead后h1才失效。
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Gump ((Forrest)) 于 (Wed Apr 4 15:49:01 2012, 美东) 提到:
请问那里说了"h1也还是有效"?
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manbeing (牛奶儿) 于 (Wed Apr 4 15:53:58 2012, 美东) 提到:
你理解错了。
用了AP, H1B就无效了。这个是肯定的。
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lettuce137 (lettuce137) 于 (Wed Apr 4 15:54:42 2012, 美东) 提到:
你第二天去上班用的就是Ｈ１啊，当然是有效的。
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manbeing (牛奶儿) 于 (Wed Apr 4 15:56:48 2012, 美东) 提到:
I-94是你在美国身份的唯一凭证。
我问你，如果你拿AP入境，海关会给你在I-94上写 "H1B until xxxx"吗？
如果他们能，那你就是H1B status，如果不能，你就不是。
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billniu (billniu) 于 (Wed Apr 4 15:59:26 2012, 美东) 提到:
那用了ap,你去上班用什么?难道就黑了?
严格来说，这是个模糊地带，但是这里h1还是有效，你也是aos状态【 在 manbeing (
牛奶儿) 的大作中提到: 】
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lettuce137 (lettuce137) 于 (Wed Apr 4 16:03:39 2012, 美东) 提到:
I94是你的出入境记录，不是你的身份凭证。
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billniu (billniu) 于 (Wed Apr 4 16:04:36 2012, 美东) 提到:
H1或aos才是你入关的凭证，不是i-94.I-94只是show你的status,你拿ap,当然就是aos
拿h1就是h1,俩都是work的，你用意去签个h1vsia,就是工作签证。
但是只要你递了485，就是aos,移民系统都有记录的。
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lettuce137 (lettuce137) 于 (Wed Apr 4 16:07:01 2012, 美东) 提到:
另外海关也不会在用ＡＰ的人的Ｉ－９４上写“Ｈ１Ｂ ＵＮＴＩＬ。。。”，因为你
ＡＰ，只出示护照就行了，你的身份是“被假释人”，跟你Ｈ１Ｂ没关系。
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billniu (billniu) 于 (Wed Apr 4 16:07:45 2012, 美东) 提到:
对的。
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antiquelover (pocket) 于 (Wed Apr 4 16:22:37 2012, 美东) 提到:
ls麻烦给几位总结一下，用ap入境后，到底应该干什么，会有什么样的后果？
举个例子，不一定对，请更正。
用ap入境后，renew H1-B，继续以H1-B身份工作。
用ap入境后，不renew H1-B，以？身份工作，
用ap入境后，使用EAD，以EAD工作。
是不是只有这三种可能，各有什么优势？
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tuboshu (宝贝健康平安) 于 (Wed Apr 4 16:24:20 2012, 美东) 提到:
如果用AP入境后回来上班，需要跟HR去update 自己的EAD吗？他们肯定不知道什么H!B
，AOS的吧
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manbeing (牛奶儿) 于 (Wed Apr 4 16:26:03 2012, 美东) 提到:
这个绝对是灰色地段，移民法出台了好几十年了，连这种地方都没有解释清楚。呵呵。
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chiaroscuro (chiaroscuro) 于 (Wed Apr 4 16:26:45 2012, 美东) 提到:
My understanding from question 3 is yes, after using AP, you can still
extend the H1B, but after H1B extension, the AP status would be terminated.
How about the already submitted I485? This question has not been answered
here.
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daka (miu) 于 (Wed Apr 4 16:32:05 2012, 美东) 提到:
用AP要考虑这么复杂啊
我lg公司那个律师怎么说的很容易似的，直接用就好了。。
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manbeing (牛奶儿) 于 (Wed Apr 4 16:32:55 2012, 美东) 提到:
因为你lg公司律师不懂。
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lettuce137 (lettuce137) 于 (Wed Apr 4 16:35:41 2012, 美东) 提到:
本来就不复杂，被一帮连ＶＩＳＡ和ＳＴＡＴＵＳ都分不清的糊涂律师越解释越晕。
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daka (miu) 于 (Wed Apr 4 16:40:39 2012, 美东) 提到:
哈哈，好吧。
不过我们还是很信任他，觉得他很负责的。他甚至把手机号都留给我们，说如果AP下来
之前有紧急需要回国，可以随时找他办一个神马文件。
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daka (miu) 于 (Wed Apr 4 16:41:09 2012, 美东) 提到:
嗯～
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manbeing (牛奶儿) 于 (Wed Apr 4 16:48:17 2012, 美东) 提到:
然后再收你们500刀？
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daka (miu) 于 (Wed Apr 4 16:51:06 2012, 美东) 提到:
没有
ms公司打包给他们律所了，我的485他们给file也没找我们要钱。
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MDX (huh?what??) 于 (Wed Apr 4 17:13:02 2012, 美东) 提到:
居然搞的这么麻烦啊，呵呵
不用续签，继续用h1b就好了
同上，AOS/H1b。虽然系统更新成AOS，但等你续签或转H1b，就变回去了，见前面的
Memo原文
也可以，但这样，就没有H1b了，正式成为AOS
优势劣势是相对而言的，如果你认为保留H1b作为一个选项的话，那么不用EAD，尽量用
H1b就是优势。
大家都说了这个是灰色地带，但Memo很清楚的说了H1b/AOS 执行起来有特殊性，至少现
在是这样。
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shailiezi111 (月黑风高杀人夜) 于 (Wed Apr 4 17:20:08 2012, 美东) 提到:
renew ap不就行了
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Gump ((Forrest)) 于 (Wed Apr 4 17:58:47 2012, 美东) 提到:
为什么用EAD就没有H1b了? 同样是AOS,用AP就可以有H1B?
其实，最重要的问题是，使用AP后，如果485被据，还有没有H1B保底？
很多人不愿用EAD就是希望如果485被据,能有H1B保底.
使用AP后呢? 如果485被据,你原来的H1B移民局还承认不承认?
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panera08 (panera) 于 (Wed Apr 4 22:48:45 2012, 美东) 提到:
Applying driving license is easy. Just provide your H1b documents. How does
the driving licence's office linked to USCIS database? that's impossible?
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viruszhang (viro) 于 (Wed Apr 4 23:58:06 2012, 美东) 提到:
我认识至少有三个人用AP回美国并且保持或延期H1身份的.没有听说过因为使用AP而影
响H1的.
有反之的案例么?听说的也行
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viruszhang (viro) 于 (Thu Apr 5 00:03:57 2012, 美东) 提到:
用AP失去H1B极小概率,
485悲剧小概率,
用AP失去H1B又加上485悲剧极小概率乘以小概率.
能不那么忧虑么?
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flyingdragon (flyingdragon) 于 (Thu Apr 5 00:47:26 2012, 美东) 提到:
data point.
老夫4年前用AP入境，回原单位继续上班。过了半年h1b 3年 renewal被拒，说是已经是AOS, 律师一周之内给弄妥了，说是uscis的人员没搞清，h1b 续成功。这说明uscis的个把初中毕业的员工还是有可能不知道用AP 之后是可以renew h1b的。 这时候，有个过硬的律师就很重要了。
10年回国，又用AP入境， 回原单位继续上班。 最近h1b 6年renewal,顺利批了，没有
任何问题。
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tuboshu (宝贝健康平安) 于 (Thu Apr 5 09:51:47 2012, 美东) 提到:
nice!
是AOS, 律师一周之内给弄妥了，说是uscis的人员没搞清，h1b 续成功。这说明uscis
的个把初中毕业的员工还是有可能不知道用AP 之后是可以renew h1b的。 这时候，有
个过硬的律师就很重要了。
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chiaroscuro (chiaroscuro) 于 (Thu Apr 5 11:48:32 2012, 美东) 提到:
谢谢你的亲身经历。想问问你的485批了吗？如果批了，是什么时候批的？
是AOS, 律师一周之内给弄妥了，说是uscis的人员没搞清，h1b 续成功。这说明uscis
的个把初中毕业的员工还是有可能不知道用AP 之后是可以renew h1b的。 这时候，有
个过硬的律师就很重要了。
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Maroon (Maroon) 于 (Thu Apr 5 12:54:00 2012, 美东) 提到:
from my lawyer:
You can use the A/P – EAD card to re-enter the U.S. if it is valid (
unexpired) at the time you apply for re-entry to the U.S.
A couple of things to note:
If you do re-enter on the A/P travel permission, you are not actually in H-
1B status any longer. Your I -94 card will be issued with the notation “
Advanced Parole” or “Adjustment of Status: AoS”. If your I-485
application is subsequently denied, you might need to leave the U.S. and
wait for us to re-file an extension of your H-1B petition.
If you use the work card to accept employment outside of what is allowed by
your H-1B petition, we will need to terminate your H-1b petition. You would
then be living and working in the U.S. as an adjustment of status applicant
, and not as an H-1B worker. Again, if your I-485 is then denied, you would
have to depart the U.S.
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Alr (haha) 于 (Thu Apr 5 16:25:56 2012, 美东) 提到:
Re
是AOS, 律师一周之内给弄妥了，说是uscis的人员没搞清，h1b 续成功。这说明uscis
的个把初中毕业的员工还是有可能不知道用AP 之后是可以renew h1b的。 这时候，有
个过硬的律师就很重要了。
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viruszhang (viro) 于 (Thu Apr 5 18:23:26 2012, 美东) 提到:
Just fire your lawyer.
by
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panera08 (panera) 于 (Thu Apr 5 23:00:15 2012, 美东) 提到:
who is right???
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panera08 (panera) 于 (Thu Apr 5 23:00:15 2012, 美东) 提到:
who is right???
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panera08 (panera) 于 (Sat Apr 7 21:05:35 2012, 美东) 提到:
Ding!
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panera08 (panera) 于 (Tue Apr 10 11:57:27 2012, 美东) 提到:
ding
