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u*a
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首先,历史上给美国最高法院输送大法官最多的法学院,非哈佛莫属。总共输送了十五
名毕业生,另有四名没毕业的也最终成为大法官。
回到平权政策在美国最高法院的几次大案来说,一开始哈佛的录取政策,是属于背景材
料来读的。头一次进入“法眼”是 1978 年。 当时的大法官 Powell (哈佛 LLM 毕业
生),大力推崇哈佛的 hollistic 录取制度。他主笔了下面一个重要案例。
Regents of Univ. of California v. Bakke 438 U.S. 265 (1978)
APPENDIX TO OPINION OF POWELL, J.
Harvard College Admissions Program [Footnote 55]
For the past 30 years, Harvard College has received each year applications
for admission that greatly exceed the number of places in the freshman class
. The number of applicants who are deemed to be not "qualified" is
comparatively small. The vast majority of applicants demonstrate through
test scores, high school records and teachers' recommendations that they
have the academic ability to do adequate work at Harvard, and perhaps to do
it with distinction. Faced with the dilemma of choosing among a large number
of "qualified" candidates, the Committee on Admissions could use the single
criterion of scholarly excellence and attempt to determine who among the
candidates were likely to perform best academically. But for the past 30
years, the Committee on Admissions has never adopted this approach. The
belief has been that, if scholarly excellence were the sole or even
predominant criterion, Harvard College would lose a great deal of its
vitality and intellectual excellence, and that the quality of the
educational experience offered to all students would suffer. Final Report of
W. J. Bender, Chairman of the Admission and Scholarship Committee and Dean
of Admissions and Financial Aid, pp. 20 et seq. (Cambridge, 1960).
Consequently, after selecting those students whose intellectual potential
will seem extraordinary to the faculty -- perhaps 150 or so out of an
entering class of over 1,100 -- the Committee seeks -- "variety in making
its choices. This has seemed important . . . in part because it adds a
critical ingredient to the effectiveness of the educational experience [in
Harvard College]. . . . The effectiveness of our students' educational
experience has seemed to the Committee to be affected as importantly by a
wide variety of interests, talents, backgrounds and career goals as it is by
a fine faculty and our libraries, laboratories and housing arrangements."
Dean of Admissions Fred L. Glimp, Final Report to the Faculty of Arts and
Sciences, 65 Official Register of Harvard University No. 25, 93, 10105 (1968
) (emphasis supplied).
The belief that diversity adds an essential ingredient to the educational
process has long been a tenet of Harvard College admissions. Fifteen or
twenty years ago, however, diversity meant students from California, New
York, and Massachusetts; city dwellers and farm boys; violinists, painters
and football players; biologists, historians and classicists; potential
stockbrokers, academics and politicians. The result was that very few ethnic
or racial minorities attended Harvard College. In recent years, Harvard
College has expanded the concept of diversity to include students from
disadvantaged economic, racial and ethnic groups. Harvard College now
recruits not only Californians or Louisianans, but also blacks and Chicanos
and other minority students. Contemporary conditions in the United States
mean that, if Harvard College is to continue to offer a first-rate education
to its students, minority representation in the undergraduate body cannot
be ignored by the Committee on Admissions.
In practice, this new definition of diversity has meant that race has been a
factor in some admission decisions. When the Committee on Admissions
reviews the large middle group of applicants who are "admissible" and deemed
capable of doing good work in their courses, the race of an applicant may
tip the balance in his favor just as geographic origin or a life spent on a
farm may tip the balance in other candidates' cases. A farm boy from Idaho
can bring something to Harvard College that a Bostonian cannot offer.
Similarly, a black student can usually bring something that a white person
cannot offer. The quality of the educational experience of all the students
in Harvard College depends in part on these differences in the background
and outlook that students bring with them.
In Harvard College admissions, the Committee has not set target quotas for
the number of blacks, or of musicians, football players, physicists or
Californians to be admitted in a given year. At the same time the Committee
is aware that, if Harvard College is to provide a truly heterogen[e]ous
environment that reflects the rich diversity of the United States, it cannot
be provided without some attention to numbers. It would not make sense, for
example, to have 10 or 20 students out of 1, 100 whose homes are west of
the Mississippi. Comparably, 10 or 20 black students could not begin to
bring to their classmates and to each other the variety of points of view,
backgrounds and experiences of blacks in the United States. Their small
numbers might also create a sense of isolation among the black students
themselves, and thus make it more difficult for them to develop and achieve
their potential. Consequently, when making its decisions, the Committee on
Admissions is aware that there is some relationship between numbers and
achieving the benefits to be derived from a diverse student body, and
between numbers and providing a reasonable environment for those students
admitted. But that awareness does not mean that the Committee sets a minimum
number of blacks or of people from west of the Mississippi who are to be
admitted. It means only that, in choosing among thousands of applicants who
are not only "admissible" academically but have other strong qualities, the
Committee, with a number of criteria in mind, pays some attention to
distribution among many types and categories of students.
The further refinements sometimes required help to illustrate the kind of
significance attached to race. The Admissions Committee, with only a few
places left to fill, might find itself forced to choose between A, the child
of a successful black physician in an academic community with promise of
superior academic performance, and B, a black who grew up in an inner-city
ghetto of semi-literate parents whose academic achievement was lower, but
who had demonstrated energy and leadership, as well as an apparently abiding
interest in black power. If a good number of black students much like A,
but few like B, had already been admitted, the Committee might prefer B, and
vice versa. If C, a white student with extraordinary artistic talent, were
also seeking one of the remaining places, his unique quality might give him
an edge over both A and B. Thus, the critical criteria are often individual
qualities or experience not dependent upon race but sometimes associated
with it.
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O*e
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求推荐 装在纱门上的狗门,不然狗挠纱门把纱网都挠破了,咋整。
我的狗是西施狗,15lb。
谢谢~~
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u*a
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快拨到 2003 年,UM 法学院(给美国最高法院输送了三名大法官)的录取政策,被告
到了美国最高法院。其中一个重要议题是: Powell 大法官在 1978 年写的那个
Footnote 55 所述“多元化”观点是不是对以后的判决有约束力 (binding precedent
)。这次的法官没有回答这个问题,但在该案有法律效力的判决中,直接肯定了
Powell 大法官有关大学多元化是一个“compelling state interest in the context
of university admissions”
GRUTTER v. BOLLINGER et al., 539 U.S. 306 (2003)
Held: The Law School's narrowly tailored use of race in admissions decisions
to further a compelling interest in obtaining the educational benefits that
flow from a diverse student body is not prohibited by the Equal Protection
Clause, Title VI, or §1981. Pp. 9-32.
(a) Since Bakke, Justice Powell's opinion has been the touchstone for
constitutional analysis of race-conscious admissions policies. Public and
private universities across the Nation have modeled their own admissions
programs on Justice Powell's views. . . Court endorses Justice Powell's view
that student body diversity is a compelling state interest in the context
of university admissions.
(d) The Law School's admissions program bears the hallmarks of a narrowly
tailored plan. To be narrowly tailored, a race-conscious admissions program
cannot "insulat[e] each category of applicants with certain desired
qualifications from competition with all other applicants." Bakke, supra, at
315 (opinion of Powell, J.). Instead, it may consider race or ethnicity
only as a " 'plus' in a particular applicant's file"; i.e., it must be "
flexible enough to consider all pertinent elements of diversity in light of
the particular qualifications of each applicant, and to place them on the
same footing for consideration, although not necessarily according them the
same weight," id., at 317. It follows that universities cannot establish
quotas for members of certain racial or ethnic groups or put them on
separate admissions tracks. See id., at 315-316. The Law School's admissions
program, like the Harvard plan approved by Justice Powell, satisfies these
requirements.
Justice Kennedy: To be constitutional, a university's compelling interest in
a diverse student body must be achieved by a system where individual
assessment is safeguarded through the entire process. There is no
constitutional objection to the goal of considering race as one modest
factor among many others to achieve diversity, but an educational
institution must ensure, through sufficient procedures, that each applicant
receives individual consideration and that race does not become a
predominant factor in the admissions decisionmaking.
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f*n
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基于案例的我最喜欢了,恭喜搅拌鸡进步了!
没错,在将近40年以前,哈佛的holistic方式的确收到了高原的表扬。但是鸡兄的原话
里有“硬性给少数民族申请人加分都是违反宪法的时候“,这个是2003年的判决。
把1978年的事实拉到十年以前的案例里,搅拌鸡,名不虚传
鸡兄的原话是“据说,当年美国最高法院判定 quota 录取方式或硬性给少数民
族申请人加分都是违反宪法的时候,当时哈佛的 holistic review
的录取方式被称之为应该被所有学校效仿的楷模。”
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f*n
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"The Law School's admissions program, like the Harvard plan approved by
Justice Powell, satisfies these requirements."
是高院引用判例的标准做法,这不是 “应该被所有学校效仿的楷模“
要不要脸啊,鸡兄。

precedent
context
decisions
that
Protection

【在 u*****a 的大作中提到】
: 快拨到 2003 年,UM 法学院(给美国最高法院输送了三名大法官)的录取政策,被告
: 到了美国最高法院。其中一个重要议题是: Powell 大法官在 1978 年写的那个
: Footnote 55 所述“多元化”观点是不是对以后的判决有约束力 (binding precedent
: )。这次的法官没有回答这个问题,但在该案有法律效力的判决中,直接肯定了
: Powell 大法官有关大学多元化是一个“compelling state interest in the context
: of university admissions”
: GRUTTER v. BOLLINGER et al., 539 U.S. 306 (2003)
: Held: The Law School's narrowly tailored use of race in admissions decisions
: to further a compelling interest in obtaining the educational benefits that
: flow from a diverse student body is not prohibited by the Equal Protection

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u*a
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(a) Since Bakke, Justice Powell's opinion has been the touchstone for
constitutional analysis of race-conscious admissions policies. Public and
private universities across the Nation have modeled their own admissions
programs on Justice Powell's views. . . Court endorses Justice Powell's view
that student body diversity is a compelling state interest in the context
of university admissions.
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f*n
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那句话可以被理解为 “应该被所有学校效仿的楷模“?

view

【在 u*****a 的大作中提到】
: (a) Since Bakke, Justice Powell's opinion has been the touchstone for
: constitutional analysis of race-conscious admissions policies. Public and
: private universities across the Nation have modeled their own admissions
: programs on Justice Powell's views. . . Court endorses Justice Powell's view
: that student body diversity is a compelling state interest in the context
: of university admissions.

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G*W
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“outlook that students bring with them” 华裔家长门,你们都怎么影响了孩子对
世界的outlook.....你们会告诉他们:to make the world better, to be different
么?我看比较悲观吧。。。
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f*n
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鸡兄,我给你加急寄了100根蜡烛,你挑灯夜读吧。不要把这些蜡烛做别的用途啊,乖
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u*a
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除非最高法院推翻 GRUTTER v. BOLLINGER 的判决,目前大学实施的多元化的录取政策
并不违宪。
第二个 UT 案,都不敢把推翻 GRUTTER v. BOLLINGER 提上日程,只能在 “松紧” 上
做手脚。还找了一个本身条件就不够格被 UT 录取的申请人来当傀儡。
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f*n
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你这是承认了下面的原话是误导吗?承认了,我们再接着聊。
“据说,当年美国最高法院判定 quota 录取方式或硬性给少数民族申请人加分
都是违反宪法的时候,当时哈佛的 holistic review
的录取方式被称之为应该被所有学校效仿的楷模。”

【在 u*****a 的大作中提到】
: 除非最高法院推翻 GRUTTER v. BOLLINGER 的判决,目前大学实施的多元化的录取政策
: 并不违宪。
: 第二个 UT 案,都不敢把推翻 GRUTTER v. BOLLINGER 提上日程,只能在 “松紧” 上
: 做手脚。还找了一个本身条件就不够格被 UT 录取的申请人来当傀儡。

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u*a
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当然,一个被华裔投资兴建、只招华裔学生、只有华裔教授的华人大学,其录取制度(
仅看某几个考试成绩),有可能成为一代楷模。打败哈佛。
你先给学校奠个基,再数鸡蛋不迟。
后来该大学被告到最高法院,没准儿会被某大法官称赞其录取制度是本世纪的楷模!哈
佛都该学。
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G*W
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我的parenting philosophy 是:
1)我想把孩子培养成一个心里身理都健康的快乐的人;
2)大学,名校,无所谓,我相信他们一定有办法survive的;
3)实现上述两目标的方案是:role model..

different

【在 G***W 的大作中提到】
: “outlook that students bring with them” 华裔家长门,你们都怎么影响了孩子对
: 世界的outlook.....你们会告诉他们:to make the world better, to be different
: 么?我看比较悲观吧。。。

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f*n
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搅拌开始1
你的计数器大法好好用啊。:)

【在 u*****a 的大作中提到】
: 当然,一个被华裔投资兴建、只招华裔学生、只有华裔教授的华人大学,其录取制度(
: 仅看某几个考试成绩),有可能成为一代楷模。打败哈佛。
: 你先给学校奠个基,再数鸡蛋不迟。
: 后来该大学被告到最高法院,没准儿会被某大法官称赞其录取制度是本世纪的楷模!哈
: 佛都该学。

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u*a
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"a) Justice Powell's opinion has been the touchstone for constitutional
analysis of race-conscious admissions policies. Public and private
universities across the Nation have modeled their own admissions programs on
Justice Powell's views. . . Court endorses Justice Powell's view that
student body diversity is a compelling state interest in the context of
university admissions."
Beat that.
Or 去奠基。
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f*n
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蜡烛用完一根了?:)
你把原文再读一下,或者翻译一下,哪句可以被理解为“当时哈佛的 holisti
c review 的录取方式被称之为应该被所有学校效仿的楷模“?

on

【在 u*****a 的大作中提到】
: "a) Justice Powell's opinion has been the touchstone for constitutional
: analysis of race-conscious admissions policies. Public and private
: universities across the Nation have modeled their own admissions programs on
: Justice Powell's views. . . Court endorses Justice Powell's view that
: student body diversity is a compelling state interest in the context of
: university admissions."
: Beat that.
: Or 去奠基。

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u*a
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矬子里拔将军嘛。要不然费舍尔小姐怎么会有一个 X姓邻居?
华人大学倒是“可能”成为楷模,但是 . . .奠基人如果是隔壁老X,这可如何是好?
改男校算了。
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f*n
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搅拌2
等你搅拌完了,我来教教你,啥叫正确的翻译。要虚心哦,乖。

【在 u*****a 的大作中提到】
: 矬子里拔将军嘛。要不然费舍尔小姐怎么会有一个 X姓邻居?
: 华人大学倒是“可能”成为楷模,但是 . . .奠基人如果是隔壁老X,这可如何是好?
: 改男校算了。

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u*a
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据说:嘴上涂了蜜的邻居说的话,千万别听。尤其是隔壁老X。
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N*6
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. “Public and private
universities across the Nation have modeled their own admissions programs on
Justice Powell's views. . . Court endorses Justice Powell's view that
student body diversity is a compelling state interest in the context of
university admissions."
1)我支持holistic admission , 这个一点疑问都没有,否则就和国內高考一样了。。
2)race-based 倾斜policy, 我保留意见。
3)上面那句英文你会怎么翻译?你翻一下。。

【在 f**********n 的大作中提到】
: 蜡烛用完一根了?:)
: 你把原文再读一下,或者翻译一下,哪句可以被理解为“当时哈佛的 holisti
: c review 的录取方式被称之为应该被所有学校效仿的楷模“?
:
: on

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f*n
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当年美国最高法院判定 quota 录取方式或硬性给少数民族申请人加分都是违反
宪法的时候,高院确认了学生群体的多样化是很关键的国家利益所在。
这样说,就没错了。原文啥的,就不翻译了。你还真以为鸡兄英文差不成。
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N*6
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Ron Paul 你知道吧。。
他说 FED印钱都是违宪的,叫了10年了, Wall Street 照样,他儿子也出来叫。。
Free speech ...

【在 f**********n 的大作中提到】
: 当年美国最高法院判定 quota 录取方式或硬性给少数民族申请人加分都是违反
: 宪法的时候,高院确认了学生群体的多样化是很关键的国家利益所在。
: 这样说,就没错了。原文啥的,就不翻译了。你还真以为鸡兄英文差不成。

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d*g
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摆脱对URM是否要保护这个车轱辘话题的前提下,非常期待亚裔案高法如何判。在2
003的意见里,
A,保护DIVERSITY。
B,race-conscious 要narrowly tailored。“it may consider race or ethnicity
only as a " 'plus' in a particular applicant's file”
第一,关于多样性
看看周围的亚裔娃,最大的同质是对EXCELLENCE的追求,但这个同质是大学
录取必须的。进哈佛的人,不分人种,都是OVER-ACHIEVERS。毕业之后
,也都是去华尔街,或者政界。不能因为这种同质而说亚裔里面完全没有多样性。
在对卓越的追求里面,也许亚裔同质地追求理工和钢琴。但对音乐同质的追求不可以吗
?对理工的同质追求,让我想起和娃从前的对话。我说大家一百年前都觉得电力,土建
各种工程很重要,现在大家都学计算机。是因为这是人类社会当下最前沿的智慧领域。
那么这种同质源于对尖端的追求,也应该是可以理解的。
也许还有些文化上,性格上,信仰上的同质?但这种同质可以被用来作为反对理由吗?
也许还有人种上的同质?好,如果亚裔是校园的绝对多数,那么影响多样性。但为什么
白人的超过50%可以?亚裔30%,40%影不影响多样性?
除掉这几点,亚裔里我的娃和他的亚裔朋友当然有区别,就好像我和老潮区别就很大。
这种区别会不会被和RACE正相关的其他同质掩盖?
第二,关于PLUS
这个亚裔完全可以ARGUE自己的RACE被隐形或显性的用成了MINUS。
POWELL的意见发表于1978年。当时亚裔的情况和现在不同。后面的案例始终
围绕URM。高法怎么考虑亚裔这个ORM的案子,非常非常有趣。
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f*n
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提示一下,哈佛一案离高院还远着呢。现在被哈佛技术性阻碍。

ethnicity

【在 d****g 的大作中提到】
: 摆脱对URM是否要保护这个车轱辘话题的前提下,非常期待亚裔案高法如何判。在2
: 003的意见里,
: A,保护DIVERSITY。
: B,race-conscious 要narrowly tailored。“it may consider race or ethnicity
: only as a " 'plus' in a particular applicant's file”
: 第一,关于多样性
: 看看周围的亚裔娃,最大的同质是对EXCELLENCE的追求,但这个同质是大学
: 录取必须的。进哈佛的人,不分人种,都是OVER-ACHIEVERS。毕业之后
: ,也都是去华尔街,或者政界。不能因为这种同质而说亚裔里面完全没有多样性。
: 在对卓越的追求里面,也许亚裔同质地追求理工和钢琴。但对音乐同质的追求不可以吗

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d*g
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有多远?UT案今年年中审理完,啥时上亚裔案?

【在 f**********n 的大作中提到】
: 提示一下,哈佛一案离高院还远着呢。现在被哈佛技术性阻碍。
:
: ethnicity

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u*a
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如果亚裔在哈佛录取过程中,等同于白人,那么从现有的案例看,不需要考虑亚裔之特
殊因为类似的白人以前也没被照顾过呀。

POWELL的意见发表于1978年。当时亚裔的情况和现在不同。后面的案例始终
围绕URM。高法怎么考虑亚裔这个ORM的案子,非常非常有趣。

【在 d****g 的大作中提到】
: 有多远?UT案今年年中审理完,啥时上亚裔案?
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d*g
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你是说高分的白娃也有没被录的?也许这是哈佛需要举的证据?

【在 u*****a 的大作中提到】
: 如果亚裔在哈佛录取过程中,等同于白人,那么从现有的案例看,不需要考虑亚裔之特
: 殊因为类似的白人以前也没被照顾过呀。
:
: POWELL的意见发表于1978年。当时亚裔的情况和现在不同。后面的案例始终
: 围绕URM。高法怎么考虑亚裔这个ORM的案子,非常非常有趣。

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u*a
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你要是跟踪一下斯坦福或哈佛在 college Confidential 上面的报喜/报忧的贴子就清
楚了: 白人申请者和亚裔申请者,高分被拒的,同样普遍。就是我昨天那个贴子说的
那回事。

【在 d****g 的大作中提到】
: 你是说高分的白娃也有没被录的?也许这是哈佛需要举的证据?
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N*6
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你一天到晚提高院,提宪法。。。好像很高大上似的。。。。

【在 f**********n 的大作中提到】
: 提示一下,哈佛一案离高院还远着呢。现在被哈佛技术性阻碍。
:
: ethnicity

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f*n
30
上高院是一个类似于抽六合彩一样的东西。大法官从一堆里头选一点点。没抽中的话,
卷铺盖回家,哭天喊地都没用。
我以前的一个转贴里说我邻居老爸朋友Blum先生很厉害,就是因为他的很多案子上过高
院。我猜这个上高院大概是法律界的诺贝尔。

【在 d****g 的大作中提到】
: 有多远?UT案今年年中审理完,啥时上亚裔案?
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f*n
31
咱在北京开出租车时养成的习惯。

【在 N*********6 的大作中提到】
: 你一天到晚提高院,提宪法。。。好像很高大上似的。。。。
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d*g
32
明白。我完全同意亚裔的被拒有50%的可能性是完全正常的,但也有50%的可能性
不那么正常。。。
我没有完全被哈佛说服亚裔的数据是完全在没有考虑种族下达到的。。
而且奇怪的很,哈佛把亚裔案推倒UT案之后,仿佛承认这两者有关系一样。。。让我
大跌眼镜。

【在 u*****a 的大作中提到】
: 你要是跟踪一下斯坦福或哈佛在 college Confidential 上面的报喜/报忧的贴子就清
: 楚了: 白人申请者和亚裔申请者,高分被拒的,同样普遍。就是我昨天那个贴子说的
: 那回事。

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u*a
34
这我也不懂,下面纯属臆测。
哈佛肯定关心 holistic review 的命运。而这个评估又会牵扯到各种繁琐的小项目如
何取舍的问题,其中一项是族裔。 UT 案涉及这个评估方式。
另外所有的官司,双方都要在上庭前在笔头针锋相对几个回合,,把各自的诉讼或反击
的理由列出来,然后在庭上辩论时不能超出自己以前在书面上提出的理由和依据。哈佛
不想让自己过早提交的理由里边会出现被其提交后被最高法院的 UT 案例否定的地方。
所以,哈佛很精明地让地方法院 put the case on hold,省得放空枪。

【在 d****g 的大作中提到】
: 明白。我完全同意亚裔的被拒有50%的可能性是完全正常的,但也有50%的可能性
: 不那么正常。。。
: 我没有完全被哈佛说服亚裔的数据是完全在没有考虑种族下达到的。。
: 而且奇怪的很,哈佛把亚裔案推倒UT案之后,仿佛承认这两者有关系一样。。。让我
: 大跌眼镜。

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N*6
35
那是吓乡下人的。。。。法官也只是一个Job而已..
这是在民主社会,一切都有protocal...都考虑到的了。。。
北京出租车时机最会见风使舵,拉八卦。。。当然,那些京片子是比乡下人见的世面多
一些,要是碰上个土豪。。。呵呵。。

【在 f**********n 的大作中提到】
: 咱在北京开出租车时养成的习惯。
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d*g
36
所以如胡搅鱼圆说的,是技术性阻挡。
FINE。我理解。但造成的观念混淆可是很大。。包括主媒和如胡搅鱼圆。。
还好高法不像选举,完全靠政治,要不然如SCA,亚裔利益和黑墨挂钩,导致一个影
响另一个,可是不大好。。高法应该知道两案区别很大?

【在 u*****a 的大作中提到】
: 这我也不懂,下面纯属臆测。
: 哈佛肯定关心 holistic review 的命运。而这个评估又会牵扯到各种繁琐的小项目如
: 何取舍的问题,其中一项是族裔。 UT 案涉及这个评估方式。
: 另外所有的官司,双方都要在上庭前在笔头针锋相对几个回合,,把各自的诉讼或反击
: 的理由列出来,然后在庭上辩论时不能超出自己以前在书面上提出的理由和依据。哈佛
: 不想让自己过早提交的理由里边会出现被其提交后被最高法院的 UT 案例否定的地方。
: 所以,哈佛很精明地让地方法院 put the case on hold,省得放空枪。

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f*n
37
苍天有眼啊,我一个引数据,摆图表,谈法律,提判例,讲逻辑,还肯认错的人。

【在 d****g 的大作中提到】
: 所以如胡搅鱼圆说的,是技术性阻挡。
: FINE。我理解。但造成的观念混淆可是很大。。包括主媒和如胡搅鱼圆。。
: 还好高法不像选举,完全靠政治,要不然如SCA,亚裔利益和黑墨挂钩,导致一个影
: 响另一个,可是不大好。。高法应该知道两案区别很大?

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d*g
38
"地方法院"?怎么个流程? :)

【在 u*****a 的大作中提到】
: 这我也不懂,下面纯属臆测。
: 哈佛肯定关心 holistic review 的命运。而这个评估又会牵扯到各种繁琐的小项目如
: 何取舍的问题,其中一项是族裔。 UT 案涉及这个评估方式。
: 另外所有的官司,双方都要在上庭前在笔头针锋相对几个回合,,把各自的诉讼或反击
: 的理由列出来,然后在庭上辩论时不能超出自己以前在书面上提出的理由和依据。哈佛
: 不想让自己过早提交的理由里边会出现被其提交后被最高法院的 UT 案例否定的地方。
: 所以,哈佛很精明地让地方法院 put the case on hold,省得放空枪。

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f*n
39
需要更多蜡烛,说一声。
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d*g
40
逮住,我使劲抨击一下你极其党羽。。。
你们昨天关心我老婆肤色,非常下作!
说我们唯一动机是民族自恨,非常下作!
结伙成群,以人多为自豪,给对方辨友起外号,泼脏水也不高明。
用车轱辘话刷屏,Trolling,说理和观点从来不前进,也很低级。
气话说完,我也有不高明的地方。。你在这里也好。逼我学习了不少东西。家长版关心
此话题,我也没意见。你带来了人气。多谢。你继续。。

【在 f**********n 的大作中提到】
: 苍天有眼啊,我一个引数据,摆图表,谈法律,提判例,讲逻辑,还肯认错的人。
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f*n
41
听到了,有则改之。
BBS上,啥人都有,千万不要随便说你们,尤其参与辩论时。别人的行为和我无关。下
面是我个人的澄清。
我没关心过你老婆肤色,我还帮你澄清。
对于民族自恨,我的抨击最强烈。
给对方辩友起外号,这是你来我往的事。你昨天说的,“物以类聚,人以群分。。”的
那句话,又何尝不是对我的讽刺。讽刺总好过说脏话。
我从不拷贝粘贴刷屏,这是搅拌鸡的专利。
从不推进是你的问题,我um招生图,那么清楚,你还在说亚裔没增加。
反驳完毕,谢谢批评指正。

【在 d****g 的大作中提到】
: 逮住,我使劲抨击一下你极其党羽。。。
: 你们昨天关心我老婆肤色,非常下作!
: 说我们唯一动机是民族自恨,非常下作!
: 结伙成群,以人多为自豪,给对方辨友起外号,泼脏水也不高明。
: 用车轱辘话刷屏,Trolling,说理和观点从来不前进,也很低级。
: 气话说完,我也有不高明的地方。。你在这里也好。逼我学习了不少东西。家长版关心
: 此话题,我也没意见。你带来了人气。多谢。你继续。。

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u*a
42
你这是逼着我去读法学院,还是怎么着?先得考 LSAT, 然后被 holistic review,然
后和各色人等混三年课,再搭上至少 15 万美元的学费,太不划算了。让吃亏耐劳的隔
壁老X 去吧。我让贤。

【在 d****g 的大作中提到】
: "地方法院"?怎么个流程? :)
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d*g
43
反驳听到。。。你很少气急败坏,也算难能可贵。。对方辨友,咱俩没仇。。

【在 f**********n 的大作中提到】
: 听到了,有则改之。
: BBS上,啥人都有,千万不要随便说你们,尤其参与辩论时。别人的行为和我无关。下
: 面是我个人的澄清。
: 我没关心过你老婆肤色,我还帮你澄清。
: 对于民族自恨,我的抨击最强烈。
: 给对方辩友起外号,这是你来我往的事。你昨天说的,“物以类聚,人以群分。。”的
: 那句话,又何尝不是对我的讽刺。讽刺总好过说脏话。
: 我从不拷贝粘贴刷屏,这是搅拌鸡的专利。
: 从不推进是你的问题,我um招生图,那么清楚,你还在说亚裔没增加。
: 反驳完毕,谢谢批评指正。

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d*g
44
话说奥巴马,说能做到即限制枪支,又能维护宪法第二修正案。。。
然后说,他从前是教宪法的,所以知道怎么能做到。。。
娘西皮,美国的法拐一百个弯儿,需要庖丁解牛的本领。。

【在 u*****a 的大作中提到】
: 你这是逼着我去读法学院,还是怎么着?先得考 LSAT, 然后被 holistic review,然
: 后和各色人等混三年课,再搭上至少 15 万美元的学费,太不划算了。让吃亏耐劳的隔
: 壁老X 去吧。我让贤。

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t*l
45
鱼圆哥们不容易。
我没有更多的时间在这边站岗。但所有这里的发帖在未名观察上都有记载,以及可以
查询。
我可以 offer 的,是如果我们附近有再有一次类似当年反 SCA5 的情况,我可以
保证这些信息,在通常的信息交流渠道(显然不是 BBS 这个无规则的粪坑),都会
被 properly relay,w/ proper comments/analysis,包括某些搅拌机的无底线
的讨论方式。
You have my words, here, effective from now.

【在 f**********n 的大作中提到】
: 听到了,有则改之。
: BBS上,啥人都有,千万不要随便说你们,尤其参与辩论时。别人的行为和我无关。下
: 面是我个人的澄清。
: 我没关心过你老婆肤色,我还帮你澄清。
: 对于民族自恨,我的抨击最强烈。
: 给对方辩友起外号,这是你来我往的事。你昨天说的,“物以类聚,人以群分。。”的
: 那句话,又何尝不是对我的讽刺。讽刺总好过说脏话。
: 我从不拷贝粘贴刷屏,这是搅拌鸡的专利。
: 从不推进是你的问题,我um招生图,那么清楚,你还在说亚裔没增加。
: 反驳完毕,谢谢批评指正。

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f*n
46
再次更正,我从不气急败坏。
但是多谢,站住别动,让俺亲一个。
###
哇,你皮肤好黑呀。我现在怀疑你的肤色了。

【在 d****g 的大作中提到】
: 反驳听到。。。你很少气急败坏,也算难能可贵。。对方辨友,咱俩没仇。。
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u*a
47
有一种说法:
美国法庭的诉讼过程为什么如此繁琐,为什么陷阱这么多?
因为法规是律师 (冒充国会议员的助手) 定的,为的事以后从良后,有口饭吃。如果
是一条直线,你还去雇佣律师吗?

【在 d****g 的大作中提到】
: 话说奥巴马,说能做到即限制枪支,又能维护宪法第二修正案。。。
: 然后说,他从前是教宪法的,所以知道怎么能做到。。。
: 娘西皮,美国的法拐一百个弯儿,需要庖丁解牛的本领。。

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f*n
48
真心感恩,真的眼眶有泪。多谢哥们。

【在 t******l 的大作中提到】
: 鱼圆哥们不容易。
: 我没有更多的时间在这边站岗。但所有这里的发帖在未名观察上都有记载,以及可以
: 查询。
: 我可以 offer 的,是如果我们附近有再有一次类似当年反 SCA5 的情况,我可以
: 保证这些信息,在通常的信息交流渠道(显然不是 BBS 这个无规则的粪坑),都会
: 被 properly relay,w/ proper comments/analysis,包括某些搅拌机的无底线
: 的讨论方式。
: You have my words, here, effective from now.

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t*l
49
因为我敢打赌搅拌机的搅拌方式,钻不出地下室,见不得阳光。
所以每一个有正常底线的,记得在需要的时候,就要任搅拌机们的被记录下来言行,晒
晒阳光。

【在 f**********n 的大作中提到】
: 真心感恩,真的眼眶有泪。多谢哥们。
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u*a
50
这临别赠言,咋这么凄惨呀??
此版已死,无需烧纸。
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t*l
51
反正你们的言论都已经在未名观察上了哈哈哈。
我耗不起时间,但有其他办法。所以把这个点子也贡献给大家。

【在 u*****a 的大作中提到】
: 这临别赠言,咋这么凄惨呀??
: 此版已死,无需烧纸。

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u*a
52
开始要挟众多 ID 。 。 。
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f*n
53
谁说要临别了?天天想你想的睡不着觉。:)
来来来,刻薄成你这样,生活中有朋友吗?纯好奇:)

【在 u*****a 的大作中提到】
: 这临别赠言,咋这么凄惨呀??
: 此版已死,无需烧纸。

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u*a
54
阅读水平太差。没看懂此版已死的含义。
LOL
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f*n
55
差不差无所谓,只要没差到读不懂法庭文件的份上。
来来来,哈佛的招生,到底啥时候被表扬啊?

【在 u*****a 的大作中提到】
: 阅读水平太差。没看懂此版已死的含义。
: LOL

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u*a
56
妇女同志们,小心被邻居老X 电击啊!
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f*n
57
来来来,解释解释为啥诺贝尔和AA有关呀。

【在 u*****a 的大作中提到】
: 妇女同志们,小心被邻居老X 电击啊!
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u*a
58
Read between the lines . . .
这才叫阅读。
此版已死的缘故嘛,叫 context 。
要不说有人阅读水平低呢。
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N*6
59
就这点言论,你都怕上未名观察。。
在Ebiz,有多少ID 都被FBI 约去喝茶,,都没事。。
你也太怕事了。。。京片子司机胆子太小了。。。。

【在 t******l 的大作中提到】
: 鱼圆哥们不容易。
: 我没有更多的时间在这边站岗。但所有这里的发帖在未名观察上都有记载,以及可以
: 查询。
: 我可以 offer 的,是如果我们附近有再有一次类似当年反 SCA5 的情况,我可以
: 保证这些信息,在通常的信息交流渠道(显然不是 BBS 这个无规则的粪坑),都会
: 被 properly relay,w/ proper comments/analysis,包括某些搅拌机的无底线
: 的讨论方式。
: You have my words, here, effective from now.

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f*n
60
我浪费时间读你的那一坨干啥呢?三行之内,必是胡搅。
来来来,反AA跟藤校到底有啥关系?密歇根一所藤校没有,为啥58%比42%把AA搞掉了?
解释解释啊?

【在 u*****a 的大作中提到】
: Read between the lines . . .
: 这才叫阅读。
: 此版已死的缘故嘛,叫 context 。
: 要不说有人阅读水平低呢。

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u*a
61
Lake Michigan:
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f*n
62
人不要脸了之后,真的是天下无敌呢。
无良搅拌鸡,你祖先会不会在棺材里翻身呀?:)
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u*a
63
难怪有些 ID 自认天下无敌,只要"敌人"冒头,就杀无赦呢。原来是这样。
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f*n
64
搞笑,我夸过你没有?或者说,我夸过你多少次?
一码归一码。

【在 u*****a 的大作中提到】
: 难怪有些 ID 自认天下无敌,只要"敌人"冒头,就杀无赦呢。原来是这样。
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u*a
65
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f*n
66
你等我的图。:D 想想都要笑死。

【在 u*****a 的大作中提到】

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t*d
67
对AA这种大是大非(有争议),又是主要屁股决定脑袋的问题,故意误导才是最下作的
,是吧?
你看鱼园,让他澄清啥就澄清啥;
你们强烈支持AA,谁澄清过啥了?让你澄清就下作了?

【在 d****g 的大作中提到】
: 逮住,我使劲抨击一下你极其党羽。。。
: 你们昨天关心我老婆肤色,非常下作!
: 说我们唯一动机是民族自恨,非常下作!
: 结伙成群,以人多为自豪,给对方辨友起外号,泼脏水也不高明。
: 用车轱辘话刷屏,Trolling,说理和观点从来不前进,也很低级。
: 气话说完,我也有不高明的地方。。你在这里也好。逼我学习了不少东西。家长版关心
: 此话题,我也没意见。你带来了人气。多谢。你继续。。

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f*n
68
:D
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p*n
69
涨姿势了
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f*n
70
怎么样,这图帅不?:)

【在 p********n 的大作中提到】
: 涨姿势了
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u*a
71
RIP
Walter J. Leonard, the chief architect of an admissions process at Harvard
that has been emulated across the United States, opening colleges and
universities to more women and minorities, died on Dec. 8 2015 in Kensington
, Md. He was 86.
The admissions formula he created for the entire university included race or
ethnicity as one of many factors that could weigh in a prospective student'
s favor. The affirmative-action policy was emulated by other universities
and has survived four decades of constitutional scrutiny.
"The Harvard model provides a standard," Ronald Dworkin of the New York
University School of Law wrote in an essay for the 2002 book "The
Affirmative Action Debate." ''If the admissions officers of other
universities are satisfied that their plan is like the Harvard plan in all
pertinent respects, they can proceed in confidence."
In 2011, Leonard was awarded Harvard Law School's highest honor, the medal
of freedom.
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c*i
72
你們跟這只屁精講AA,是搶了這只雞的蛋了
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u*a
73
The Long Road to Race Blindness
http://sciencecareers.sciencemag.org/career_magazine/previous_i
The Handicapped Parking Analogy
As complicated as the legal issues may be, the political issues surrounding
race-conscious admission policies are even more treacherous. Handicapped
parking provides a useful analogy ( 12). Suppose that there were one parking
space reserved for disabled drivers in front of a popular restaurant.
Eliminating the reserved space would have only a minuscule effect on the
parking options for nondisabled drivers. But the sight of the open space may
frustrate many passing nondisabled motorists looking for someplace to park.
With the uncertainties surrounding university admissions, it is difficult to
identify which individuals are paying the cost of race-conscious admissions
( 12, 19). In the Spring of 2003, Harvard College accepted only one
applicant in 10 ( 20). Many of the rejected applicants (and, potentially,
many more of those who did not bother applying) have better grades and SAT
scores than many of the minority applicants who are admitted. A large
fraction of these may well believe that they would have been accepted if
Harvard had no racial preferences. Yet only about 18% of Harvard's
undergraduates are black or Hispanic. Even in the unlikely scenario that
ending racial preferences forced all these students to surrender their seats
to white and Asian-American students, acceptance rates for the remaining
students would only increase from 10 to 12%. If more than 2% of those who
were originally denied admission believe that they were the "next in line"
and that they would have been admitted in the absence of racial preferences,
then the perceived costs will overstate the true costs.
Ironically, the more informal use of race used by the University of Michigan
Law School could exacerbate such misperceptions. With a mechanical, point-
based system, those who are harmed by race-based policies are more readily
identifiable. In the less explicit system endorsed by the court, the
perceived costs may be less intense, but more widespread, since it would be
more unclear who was the next person in line.
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c*i
74
賽馬handicapped,誰跑得快給誰加碼,為了便於賭徒下注,馬一點好處沒有。
維護AA的吃屎傻屄屁精是當之無愧的達爾文獎候選者,呵呵
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u*a
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田忌赛马
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f*n
76
不妥不妥,鸡兄怎么能把自己小孩的族裔比作是残疾呢?我坚定地认为,每个族裔应该
都为自己的背景骄傲,就像你应该为华人背景骄傲,而你的小孩也应该为他的族裔背景
骄傲。
再次重申,我从来不反对任何嫁娶外族裔的行为,这都是个人行为,自己快乐就好。
不过看来鸡兄不是很快乐呢?我这种才来短短时间的的还真没发现原来鸡兄泡在这个网
站那么久了。有空的时候,多和老公交流交流吧。祝你夫妻生活快乐,家庭和睦。:)

surrounding
parking
may

【在 u*****a 的大作中提到】
: The Long Road to Race Blindness
: http://sciencecareers.sciencemag.org/career_magazine/previous_i
: The Handicapped Parking Analogy
: As complicated as the legal issues may be, the political issues surrounding
: race-conscious admission policies are even more treacherous. Handicapped
: parking provides a useful analogy ( 12). Suppose that there were one parking
: space reserved for disabled drivers in front of a popular restaurant.
: Eliminating the reserved space would have only a minuscule effect on the
: parking options for nondisabled drivers. But the sight of the open space may
: frustrate many passing nondisabled motorists looking for someplace to park.

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u*a
77
Thomas J. Kane,"The Long Road to Race Blindness." Science. 2003 Oct 24;302(
5645):571-3.
Thomas Kane is an economist and Professor of Education at the Harvard
Graduate School of Education. He has made important contributions to the
concept of education policy, including policies pertaining to student
assessment, teacher quality and financial aid for college. In 1995-96 he
served on the Council of Economic Advisers.
Thomas Kane is an economist and Walter H. Gale Professor of Education at the
Harvard Graduate School of Education. He is faculty director of the Center
for Education Policy Research, a university-wide research center that works
with school districts and state agencies. Between 2009 and 2012, he directed
the Measures of Effective Teaching project for the Bill & Melinda Gates
Foundation. His work has spanned both K-12 and higher education, covering
topics such as the design of school accountability systems, teacher
recruitment and retention, financial aid for college, race-conscious college
admissions and the earnings impacts of community colleges. From 1995 to
1996, Kane served as the senior economist for labor, education, and welfare
policy issues within President Clinton's Council of Economic Advisers. From
1991 through 2000, he was a faculty member at the Kennedy School of
Government. Kane has also been a professor of public policy at UCLA and has
held visiting fellowships at the Brookings Institution and the Hoover
Institution at Stanford University.
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f*n
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贴来这么一坨干啥呢,你就说你家小孩就得比亚裔小孩高人一头呗。这么简单的事,一
句话就清楚了,鸡兄。

the
Center

【在 u*****a 的大作中提到】
: Thomas J. Kane,"The Long Road to Race Blindness." Science. 2003 Oct 24;302(
: 5645):571-3.
: Thomas Kane is an economist and Professor of Education at the Harvard
: Graduate School of Education. He has made important contributions to the
: concept of education policy, including policies pertaining to student
: assessment, teacher quality and financial aid for college. In 1995-96 he
: served on the Council of Economic Advisers.
: Thomas Kane is an economist and Walter H. Gale Professor of Education at the
: Harvard Graduate School of Education. He is faculty director of the Center
: for Education Policy Research, a university-wide research center that works

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u*a
79
我觉得对隔壁老王这种文化人来讲,换下面这个比喻可能更容易理解一些:
有一美女家住饭店三楼。结果其隔壁的所有房间都是限制级入住的。限制的条件很多的
,其中一条是住客的姓氏笔画不能少于、等于四,因为姓的笔画愈多,该人越有文化。
隔壁老王不懂啊,就和人辩论呀, 说:我的性事绝对大于四!而且,我可能比划了!
旅馆工作人员说: 这属于个人隐私,我们不当作证据。
隔壁老王说:哪里有隐私啊?这不整个买卖提世界都知道的事儿吗?
旅馆工作人员说: 美国新闻版,不能代表整个买卖提世界。而且据网上了解,你一旦
入住,周围住客如果有女眷的,马上退房。
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f*n
80
写这么一堆,还不好笑。唉。
来来来,告诉大家,你家的算非裔还是西裔啊?
你早说嘛,我还瞎忙个把月,跟你吵高院法律文书。

【在 u*****a 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得对隔壁老王这种文化人来讲,换下面这个比喻可能更容易理解一些:
: 有一美女家住饭店三楼。结果其隔壁的所有房间都是限制级入住的。限制的条件很多的
: ,其中一条是住客的姓氏笔画不能少于、等于四,因为姓的笔画愈多,该人越有文化。
: 隔壁老王不懂啊,就和人辩论呀, 说:我的性事绝对大于四!而且,我可能比划了!
: 旅馆工作人员说: 这属于个人隐私,我们不当作证据。
: 隔壁老王说:哪里有隐私啊?这不整个买卖提世界都知道的事儿吗?
: 旅馆工作人员说: 美国新闻版,不能代表整个买卖提世界。而且据网上了解,你一旦
: 入住,周围住客如果有女眷的,马上退房。

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l*z
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嘿嘿, 我也想知道, 她家小孩算老黑还是算老墨?

【在 f**********n 的大作中提到】
: 写这么一堆,还不好笑。唉。
: 来来来,告诉大家,你家的算非裔还是西裔啊?
: 你早说嘛,我还瞎忙个把月,跟你吵高院法律文书。

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f*n
82
如果姓很难发音,我猜是西裔。
再次重申,本人不反对任何外嫁娶。自己开心就行。人生在世,吃喝赌三个字。

【在 l****z 的大作中提到】
: 嘿嘿, 我也想知道, 她家小孩算老黑还是算老墨?
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u*a
83
歧视是一个很奇怪的东西。
隔壁老王诠释了它。
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f*n
84
那个字,那句话是歧视?本人问心无愧,从不歧视任何族裔。
如果那个字造成误解,我改。

【在 u*****a 的大作中提到】
: 歧视是一个很奇怪的东西。
: 隔壁老王诠释了它。

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w*o
85
If you are color blind, you wouldn't try to "guess" other people's skin
color constantly.
If you are not color blind, what you have been doing on this board is to
constantly show what a hypocrite you are and how silly the IDs who actually
agree with you are.
One thing you and your friend are really good at is to shoot yourself on
your own feet.I feel sorry for the ones who actually listen to you.They
might end up doing the same thing.

【在 f**********n 的大作中提到】
: 如果姓很难发音,我猜是西裔。
: 再次重申,本人不反对任何外嫁娶。自己开心就行。人生在世,吃喝赌三个字。

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u*a
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居然隔壁老王前来应聘??
是喜是忧?
首先,请提高阅读能力。
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t*d
87
wuyueliuhuo好像是名ID?
谁科普一下

actually

【在 w*********o 的大作中提到】
: If you are color blind, you wouldn't try to "guess" other people's skin
: color constantly.
: If you are not color blind, what you have been doing on this board is to
: constantly show what a hypocrite you are and how silly the IDs who actually
: agree with you are.
: One thing you and your friend are really good at is to shoot yourself on
: your own feet.I feel sorry for the ones who actually listen to you.They
: might end up doing the same thing.

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f*n
88
胡说八道啊。
我反对任何基于种族的特殊优待政策,我不反对基于种族的观察,研究,分析。
譬如说,你也嫁给了外国人,这只是分析。你嫁给了外国人就可以欺负我了,这属于特
殊优待政策。
你那点水平,怎么和父母版大思想家,理论家,智库王鱼圆比。
来来来,解释一下,为啥美国医学院都是私有的?上次用public school来狡辩还有点
新意。

actually

【在 w*********o 的大作中提到】
: If you are color blind, you wouldn't try to "guess" other people's skin
: color constantly.
: If you are not color blind, what you have been doing on this board is to
: constantly show what a hypocrite you are and how silly the IDs who actually
: agree with you are.
: One thing you and your friend are really good at is to shoot yourself on
: your own feet.I feel sorry for the ones who actually listen to you.They
: might end up doing the same thing.

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f*n
89
流火兄好像当年支持康妈捐款,好像外嫁印度,好像从不使用中文,好像支持AA。

【在 t*******d 的大作中提到】
: wuyueliuhuo好像是名ID?
: 谁科普一下
:
: actually

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w*o
90
I wonder who you define as 外国人, by citizenship, skin color or race?
I don't care if you or your children marry a 外国人 or not, really not my
business. Somehow, you couldn't wrap your brain around that and couldn't
resist to pass judgement on other people's personal business or use them as
attack weapons. Well, that
says a lot about what kind of person you really is.

【在 f**********n 的大作中提到】
: 胡说八道啊。
: 我反对任何基于种族的特殊优待政策,我不反对基于种族的观察,研究,分析。
: 譬如说,你也嫁给了外国人,这只是分析。你嫁给了外国人就可以欺负我了,这属于特
: 殊优待政策。
: 你那点水平,怎么和父母版大思想家,理论家,智库王鱼圆比。
: 来来来,解释一下,为啥美国医学院都是私有的?上次用public school来狡辩还有点
: 新意。
:
: actually

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w*o
91
See, you are showing how "smart" you are by adding 好像 in front of your
attacks. Since you are so smart, what you posted must be true and you are
definitely not a rumor mill.
The only problem is that "thinkhard" ID seems to be somebody's Maja. Is it
yours?

【在 f**********n 的大作中提到】
: 流火兄好像当年支持康妈捐款,好像外嫁印度,好像从不使用中文,好像支持AA。
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u*a
92
发信人: lczlcz (lcz), 信区: USANews
标 题: Re: 美图分享 (转载)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Jan 8 13:01:54 2016, 美东)
哦, 嫁给了老墨, 怪不得铁了心的支持AA.

【在 f**********n 的大作中提到】
: 流火兄好像当年支持康妈捐款,好像外嫁印度,好像从不使用中文,好像支持AA。
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u*a
93
“好像” 隔壁老X 在勾引某版主。
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t*d
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你要澄清很难吗?
我这就澄清给你看,我发誓我不是鱼园的马甲
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w*o
95
Why should I even respond to this kind of questioning with malicious intent?
I don't want or need to preach anything.
Your 发誓 worth as much as the digital bites it took as far as credibility
goes. Nowadays, it might even be negative.

【在 t*******d 的大作中提到】
: 你要澄清很难吗?
: 我这就澄清给你看,我发誓我不是鱼园的马甲

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f*n
96
妒忌了哈?王鱼圆朋友遍天下,哈哈哈。

【在 u*****a 的大作中提到】
: “好像” 隔壁老X 在勾引某版主。
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f*n
97
人家先问的,我就回答牙,没把握我就加个好像呀。
再说一次,我不反对任何外嫁娶。你自卑干哈呢?

【在 w*********o 的大作中提到】
: See, you are showing how "smart" you are by adding 好像 in front of your
: attacks. Since you are so smart, what you posted must be true and you are
: definitely not a rumor mill.
: The only problem is that "thinkhard" ID seems to be somebody's Maja. Is it
: yours?

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u*a
98
越抹越黑,越像隔壁老王。
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f*n
99
来来来,发誓好了。你先说,我跟进。

【在 u*****a 的大作中提到】
: 越抹越黑,越像隔壁老王。
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t*d
100
那你可以去专心支持康妈捐款支持AA了,
your words worth nothing to me.

intent?

【在 w*********o 的大作中提到】
: Why should I even respond to this kind of questioning with malicious intent?
: I don't want or need to preach anything.
: Your 发誓 worth as much as the digital bites it took as far as credibility
: goes. Nowadays, it might even be negative.

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w*o
101
That ID asked alright. Not even the first time. Did that ID ask you? It is
you who couldn't resist the urge to give an "answer" that you are supposedly
not sure about.
If you are not sure, why do you have to give that answer?
Regarding the 自卑, are you asking me or are you talking about yourself?

【在 f**********n 的大作中提到】
: 人家先问的,我就回答牙,没把握我就加个好像呀。
: 再说一次,我不反对任何外嫁娶。你自卑干哈呢?

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f*n
102
好了啦,再见。

supposedly

【在 w*********o 的大作中提到】
: That ID asked alright. Not even the first time. Did that ID ask you? It is
: you who couldn't resist the urge to give an "answer" that you are supposedly
: not sure about.
: If you are not sure, why do you have to give that answer?
: Regarding the 自卑, are you asking me or are you talking about yourself?

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w*o
103
My words are my words. Whether or not it worth anything to you doesn't
really concern me. And it shouldn't since I assume you are an adult.
If your goal is to find worthy words on this board, you need find something
better to do with your time.

【在 t*******d 的大作中提到】
: 那你可以去专心支持康妈捐款支持AA了,
: your words worth nothing to me.
:
: intent?

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t*d
104
去关心你自己的事,我不需要你关心,更不需要你照顾

something

【在 w*********o 的大作中提到】
: My words are my words. Whether or not it worth anything to you doesn't
: really concern me. And it shouldn't since I assume you are an adult.
: If your goal is to find worthy words on this board, you need find something
: better to do with your time.

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u*a
105
跳得越高,摔得越狠。
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f*n
106
良心越黑,搅拌越狠
老公越黑,AA越狠

【在 u*****a 的大作中提到】
: 跳得越高,摔得越狠。
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u*a
107
哈佛大学学士、法律博士双学位的吴女士,巾帼英雄,打破白人垄断,充分体现了哈佛
当年不拘一格选人才的独特眼光!这比那些成天外嫁、WF 不离口的“斗士”,不知强
了多少倍。
Holistic Review won!
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f*n
108
那是,肯定比我们下室琐男强。
但我们下室琐男堂堂正正,比为了自己外族裔小孩,不惜损害亚裔子弟的搅拌鸡强那么
一点点。
对,就一点点。:)

【在 u*****a 的大作中提到】
: 哈佛大学学士、法律博士双学位的吴女士,巾帼英雄,打破白人垄断,充分体现了哈佛
: 当年不拘一格选人才的独特眼光!这比那些成天外嫁、WF 不离口的“斗士”,不知强
: 了多少倍。
: Holistic Review won!

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