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u*a2010-08-03 07:08

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RIP
哈佛大学二年级华裔学生孙安迪（Andrew Sun，译音）6日午夜零时，从波士顿港口旁
高楼摔落，送医急救后，7日上午不治死亡。孙安迪为何从大楼上摔落，原因不明。
波士顿警方以仍在调查的说法，拒绝透露有关孙安迪的任何讯息。但哈佛大学学生报
「Crimson」以「Pfoho宿舍学生周日凌晨自校外高楼跳下后身亡为标题，使得更多人相
信这是椿自杀事件。据哈佛学生报「Crimson」报导，孙安迪在校主修经济，是该校信
仰行动（Harvard College Faith in Action）学生社团的成员，也参加财务分析俱乐
部。
事故发生在6日深夜，地点是波士顿海港区、水族馆附近的一栋11层的商店／办公大楼
上。摔落自高楼的孙安迪伤势严重，被送医急救时，被列为「严重受伤」病患。麻省总
医院医生动手术抢救后表示，伤势过度严重，已无复原可能，即使用生命维持器，也只
能短暂延续生命。
哈佛大学与他同宿舍的同学在7日上午9时30分，接到他不治死亡的恶讯。他离世时，
父母和姨妈都在身边。
孙安迪是在高二时从中国移民到美国来的。他在美国的高中是新泽西州的蒙特维尔高中
，其高中校长道格拉斯·桑福德回忆说：在高中，孙曾担任数学俱乐部主席，并积极参
与环保俱乐部，机器人俱乐部和 KEY 俱乐部。

s*o2010-08-03 07:08

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u*a2010-08-03 07:08

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孩子的心理健康，也很重要。切记。家长要多和孩子沟通，挑明世界上能人辈出，大丈
夫能屈能伸的道理。全 A 不是亚裔学生的标志，也不应该成为亚裔学生的枷锁。留下
自己特有的人生足迹才是华裔学生应有的目标。

c*e2010-08-03 07:08

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贵

A*u2010-08-03 07:08

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我的Parenting 目标就是，培养孩子珍惜生命，热爱生活，享受生活，成年后他们自己
能有一个income ，如果做到这个，我就算实现自己的目标了，什么滕校成功统统浮云
，有就锦上添花，算一份惊喜。

e*G2010-08-03 07:08

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之前newegg好像899

D*R2010-08-03 07:08

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是不是自杀，还没有定论呢，还是先不要讨论心理健康吧。

l*a2010-08-03 07:08

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有点贵了吧

s*72010-08-03 07:08

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太可惜了
我觉得是劳累压力引发抑郁症
家长要知进退，孩子才不会崩断了弦

d*02010-08-03 07:08

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从没见过这个价钱

【在 e*****G 的大作中提到】

: 之前newegg好像899

u*a2010-08-03 07:08

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不能更赞同。

【在 A***u 的大作中提到】

: 我的Parenting 目标就是，培养孩子珍惜生命，热爱生活，享受生活，成年后他们自己
: 能有一个income ，如果做到这个，我就算实现自己的目标了，什么滕校成功统统浮云
: ，有就锦上添花，算一份惊喜。

L*H2010-08-03 07:08

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米人啊，

u*a2010-08-03 07:08

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据哈佛自己说是自己跳下来的，不是被推下去的。
Sun, an Economics concentrator from New Jersey, died early Monday morning in
Massachussets General Hospital, where he was being treated for injuries he
sustained after jumping off a Boston building on Sunday. Sun, who was 20
years old at the time of his death, was a resident of Pforzheimer House。
http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2014/4/8/andrew-sun-remembere
"Very sadly, from all we understand at this point, this was not an accident,
" Professor Anne Harrington told the Crimson.

d*02010-08-03 07:08

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可能是MM买东西，GG付钱

【在 L****H 的大作中提到】

: 米人啊，

u*a2010-08-03 07:08

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Asian American women between the ages of 20 and 69 ranked second-highest
among suicides across all ethnicities in the US between 1981 and 2010,
according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Most shockingly
, Asian American women older than 65 and girls between the ages of 5 and 9
have the highest suicide rate of any ethnicity in the US, according to the
CDC. For elderly women, the suicide rate was 6.5 per 100,000, compared to 4.
3 among white women of the same age group.
At Cornell University, for instance, 13 of the 21 student suicide victims
between 1996 and 2006 were Asians or Asian Americans. That picture is not
complete unless you consider that Asians make up of only 14 percent of the
total Cornell student body. Cornell is so concerned that in 2002 it formed a
special Asian and Asian American Campus Climate Task Force to look into the
reason behind the high number of suicides…
“While ethnicity isn’t directly linked to mental health, culture matters,
” said Joyce Chu, an associate professor at Palo Alto University in
California who has studied suicide in the Asian American community. “There
are important cultural considerations that put Asian Americans with mental
health problems at a higher risk for being underserviced.” While Asian
Americans don’t necessarily suffer from depression at a higher rate than
other ethnicities, they are much less likely to seek help until their
emotional circumstances have become unbearable, said Amy Lam, health-equity
program director for Community Health for Asian Americans in Oakland,
California.
Less than 9 percent of Asian Americans use mental health services, compared
to 18 percent of the general population, according to a 2007 study led by
Loyola Marymount University. When they do enter therapy, they are more
likely than other ethnic groups to show heightened levels of psychological
distress upon beginning treatment, and on average stay in treatment for
shorter periods of time, according to a 2005 Asian American Psychological
Association study.
“Asian Americans are more likely to pretend that everything is okay or
assume that things are manageable, and when you’re talking about mental
health, the wound and associated trauma essentially fester like gangrene,”
Chu said. “That can eventually mean suicide, because you’re so far down
the road that you don’t believe there’s a way back.”

s*o2010-08-03 07:08

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看来是太贵了。。哪儿的价格比较ok啊。。。
我是在amazon搜到的它的官方价格

【在 L****H 的大作中提到】

: 米人啊，

u*a2010-08-03 07:08

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The following information is based on national suicide rates in 2007:1, 2
Suicide was the 8th leading cause of death for Asian-Americans, whereas it
was the 11th leading cause of death for all racial groups combined.
Suicide was the second leading cause of death for Asian-Americans aged 15-34
, which is consistent with the national data (the second leading cause for
15-24 year-olds and the third leading cause for 25-34 year-olds).
Among all Asian-Americans, those aged 20-24 had the highest suicide rate (12
.44 per 100,000).
Among females from all racial backgrounds between the ages of 65 and 84,
Asian-Americans had the highest suicide rate.
Asian-American men had lower suicide rates relative to those of White and
American Indian/Alaskan Native men for almost all age groups.
The following information is based on findings from national studies on
suicidal thoughts and attempts:
Asian-American adults’ lifetime rates of suicidal thoughts (8.6 percent)
and attempts (2.5 percent) were lower than those of national lifetime
estimate (13.5 percent for thoughts, 4.6 percent for attempts).
U.S.-born Asian-American women had a higher lifetime rate of suicidal
thoughts (15.9 percent) than that of the general U.S. population (13.5
percent).
Among Asian-American adults, those aged 18-34 had the highest rates of
suicidal thoughts (11.9 percent), intent (4.4 percent) and attempts (3.8
percent) compared to other age groups.
Asian-Americans college students were more likely than White American
students to have had suicidal thoughts and to attempt suicide.
References:
1) Heron, M. (2011). Deaths: Leading causes for 2007. National Vital
Statistics Reports, 59, 8.
2) Xu, J., Kochanek, K.D., Murphy, S. L., & Tejada-Vera, B. (2010). Deaths:
Final data for 2007. National Vital Statistics Reports, 58, 10.
3) Duldulao, A.A., Takeuchi, D.T., & Hong, S. (2009). Correlates of suicidal
behaviors among Asian Americans. Archives of Suicide Research, 13, 277-290.
4) Kisch, J., Leino, E. V., & Silverman, M. M. (2005). Aspects of suicidal
behavior, depression and treatment in college students: Results from the
spring 2000 National College Health Assessment Survey. Suicide and Life-
Threatening Behavior, 35, 3–13

L*H2010-08-03 07:08

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这样啊，那太便宜了，直接上无敌兔吧，咔咔

【在 d*****0 的大作中提到】

: 可能是MM买东西，GG付钱

u*a2010-08-03 07:08

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There were three Chinese American suicides at Cal Tech in just three months
in 2009. “Three Chinese-American students at the California Institute of
Technology (Caltech) have killed themselves in the last three months. Two
died by helium asphyxiation and the cause of death of the third student,
though deemed a suicide, is yet to be determined. Their stories have been
covered in the Chinese language media, but remain virtually unreported in
the mainstream.”
- - - -
In 2011, the 18-year-old son of a Nobel Prize-winning MIT professor was
found dead in his room at the university, the second MIT undergraduate to be
discovered dead in a dormitory this school year, authorities said.
Satto Tonegawa, an accomplished pianist and cellist who as a high school
student was selected from thousands of young musicians to perform at
Carnegie Hall, had entered the Massachusetts Institute of Technology as a
freshman this fall after graduating cum laude from Milton Academy.

s*o2010-08-03 07:08

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那个
d90加标准镜头
amazon 1099
newegg 1149
bestbuy 1199
还有哪儿有更便宜的呢

【在 L****H 的大作中提到】

: 这样啊，那太便宜了，直接上无敌兔吧，咔咔

p*e2010-08-03 07:08

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还没定论呢，说他有心理问题为时过早。

A*a2010-08-03 07:08

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RIP

I*s2010-08-03 07:08

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Between 5 to 9 自杀率最高？

shockingly
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 8.6

【在 u*****a 的大作中提到】

: Asian American women between the ages of 20 and 69 ranked second-highest
: among suicides across all ethnicities in the US between 1981 and 2010,
: according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Most shockingly
: , Asian American women older than 65 and girls between the ages of 5 and 9
: have the highest suicide rate of any ethnicity in the US, according to the
: CDC. For elderly women, the suicide rate was 6.5 per 100,000, compared to 4.
: 3 among white women of the same age group.
: At Cornell University, for instance, 13 of the 21 student suicide victims
: between 1996 and 2006 were Asians or Asian Americans. That picture is not
: complete unless you consider that Asians make up of only 14 percent of the

u*a2010-08-03 07:08

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如果你相信六岁小孩可以拉小提琴的话，从其智力和体力来考虑，同样的孩子有能力完
成另一个动作和计划。

【在 I**********s 的大作中提到】

: Between 5 to 9 自杀率最高？
:
: shockingly
: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 8.6

u*a2010-08-03 07:08

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2014 年，乔治华盛顿大学已经有三个学生自杀身亡。
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/08/us/trio-of-george-washington-
同一学年，宾夕法尼亚大学已有四名学生自杀身亡。宾大似乎还蓄意隐瞒学生自杀一事。
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/27/university-of-pennsylv
GW 自杀的学生，似乎没有华裔。宾大的从名字上看，也不像。
RIP

a*a2010-08-03 07:08

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就是，大家怎么一看就觉得是自杀，我觉得不是。先别定论

【在 D**********R 的大作中提到】

: 是不是自杀，还没有定论呢，还是先不要讨论心理健康吧。

u*a2010-08-03 07:08

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1）如果疑似谋杀，警察立马就说了。现场也会被封锁调查。
2）该学生住在几英里以外的一个学生集体宿舍。事发当日，该学生半夜跑到另一商业
大楼的屋顶，跳下。不是自杀的几率极小。连管他住的宿舍的老师都说：这不是意外事
件。言外之意是这是学生自己有意识的行为。
3）有自杀倾向的年轻人很多。不要有什么忌讳，应该开诚布公地讨论如何对待挫折和
情绪波动。否认该现象在华人学生中的存在，并不能减少该悲剧继续重演。正是因为华
人对心理健康的忽视和“不讨论”，导致这个族裔得到心理咨询的比例出奇地低。见个
SHRINK 很正常，不信去问 MONK。忌病讳医，不是什么值得提倡的事。
父母和姑姑得哭死。

【在 a*****a 的大作中提到】

: 就是，大家怎么一看就觉得是自杀，我觉得不是。先别定论

a*a2010-08-03 07:08

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心理健康比什么都重要，什么都学不好没关系，抗压能力要有，乐观心态要有！否则即
便非常成功，将来也不会幸福，越是“成功”越是压力大。我看过非常优秀的中学生自
杀，家长都无法想象。

【在 u*****a 的大作中提到】

: 1）如果疑似谋杀，警察立马就说了。现场也会被封锁调查。
: 2）该学生住在几英里以外的一个学生集体宿舍。事发当日，该学生半夜跑到另一商业
: 大楼的屋顶，跳下。不是自杀的几率极小。连管他住的宿舍的老师都说：这不是意外事
: 件。言外之意是这是学生自己有意识的行为。
: 3）有自杀倾向的年轻人很多。不要有什么忌讳，应该开诚布公地讨论如何对待挫折和
: 情绪波动。否认该现象在华人学生中的存在，并不能减少该悲剧继续重演。正是因为华
: 人对心理健康的忽视和“不讨论”，导致这个族裔得到心理咨询的比例出奇地低。见个
: SHRINK 很正常，不信去问 MONK。忌病讳医，不是什么值得提倡的事。
: 父母和姑姑得哭死。

u*a2010-08-03 07:08

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同意。

【在 a*****a 的大作中提到】

: 心理健康比什么都重要，什么都学不好没关系，抗压能力要有，乐观心态要有！否则即
: 便非常成功，将来也不会幸福，越是“成功”越是压力大。我看过非常优秀的中学生自
: 杀，家长都无法想象。

s*t2010-08-03 07:08

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"While ethnity isn’t directly linked to mental health, culture matters"
亚洲文化就是吃人的文化，特别是吃女人的文化

shockingly
4.

【在 u*****a 的大作中提到】

s*t2010-08-03 07:08

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说得太好了。
我也是这样想的。

【在 A***u 的大作中提到】

s*t2010-08-03 07:08

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每个大学应该每年报道自杀人数和比例，这样也是孩子申请大学的一个参考。
学校里面有人自杀，这个是非常不好的影响

事。

【在 u*****a 的大作中提到】

: 2014 年，乔治华盛顿大学已经有三个学生自杀身亡。
: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/08/us/trio-of-george-washington-
: 同一学年，宾夕法尼亚大学已有四名学生自杀身亡。宾大似乎还蓄意隐瞒学生自杀一事。
: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/27/university-of-pennsylv
: GW 自杀的学生，似乎没有华裔。宾大的从名字上看，也不像。
: RIP

s*t2010-08-03 07:08

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“正是因为
人对心理健康的忽视和“不讨论”，导致这个族裔得到心理咨询的比例出奇地低”
说得对极乐

【在 u*****a 的大作中提到】

u*a2010-08-03 07:08

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华裔中学生的压力也大。看这个报道：
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/after-woodson-high-su
The final evening of Jack Chen’s life was indistinguishable from many
others. The sophomore returned home from school, ate dinner with his mother
and retired to his room. His mother asked him to turn out his light at
midnight.
Inside his bedroom, anguish gnawed at him, a darkness invisible to friends
and family: He maintained a 4.3 grade-point average at one of the area’s
top high schools, was a captain of the junior varsity football team and had
never tried drugs or alcohol.
But that hidden pain drove Jack from his Fairfax Station home early the next
morning — Wednesday, Feb. 26. The 15-year-old, who pestered his father to
quit smoking and wear his safety belt, walked to nearby tracks and stepped
between the rails as a commuter train approached.
His death is one of six apparent suicides at Fairfax’s W.T. Woodson High
School during the past three years, including another student found dead the
next day. The toll has left the school community reeling and prompted an
urgent question: Why would so many teens from a single suburban school take
their lives?
. . . .
Jack Chen spent his final hours writing a note. He loved his family and
friends. He had dreams of being a computer science professor and having four
children. But at 15, he “couldn’t keep doing this.”
“There is too much stress in my life from school and the environment it
creates, expectations for sports, expectations from my friends and
expectations from my family,” Jack wrote. He ended with a simple: “Goodbye
.”
. . .
Jim Chen is at a loss. When he runs through the events of the days and weeks
leading to his son’s death, he finds nothing amiss. No clue to what he
overlooked.
There were no signs of depression. No outbursts. No withdrawal. Jack had
maintained all A’s, except for a single B-plus in a math class. He rowed on
the crew team and was a hurdler on the track team. The father and son had
made plans to practice driving.
Then, on that chilly February morning, there was a knock at the door. Jack
was dead, a police officer told his parents. “I said, ‘This is impossible,
’ ” Chen recalled. “ ‘He was a happy boy.’ ”
Jim Chen speculates that Jack’s skin medication, which can cause depression
, might have played a role. “There was something going on in his mind, but
he didn’t give me any chance to do anything,” Chen said. “My heart is
aching.”
Jack’s death and the loss of five other students have reverberated within
the community; more than 1,000 Woodson parents, teachers and administrators
flooded into the school’s auditorium on a recent night trying to make sense
of it all. The suicides have been especially baffling because many of the
teens did not seem to exhibit the factors that would put them at risk. They
had good grades, stable families and excelled at sports.

l*n2010-08-03 07:08

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RIP

t*r2010-08-03 07:08

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属实

【在 u*****a 的大作中提到】

: 孩子的心理健康，也很重要。切记。家长要多和孩子沟通，挑明世界上能人辈出，大丈
: 夫能屈能伸的道理。全 A 不是亚裔学生的标志，也不应该成为亚裔学生的枷锁。留下
: 自己特有的人生足迹才是华裔学生应有的目标。

t*r2010-08-03 07:08

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属实

【在 A***u 的大作中提到】

t*r2010-08-03 07:08

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属实

【在 u*****a 的大作中提到】

: 如果你相信六岁小孩可以拉小提琴的话，从其智力和体力来考虑，同样的孩子有能力完
: 成另一个动作和计划。

x*s2010-08-03 07:08

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光讲道理是没用的，尤其是初中以后的娃，要家长自己监督自己的行为。孩子考试没拿
到A，自己会不会表现得很粗暴很失望？孩子比赛没进球，没提高速度，自己会不会吼
他，或者表现很郁闷？等等。还有大人对自己生活里遇到的挫折，如何面对。。。。。
大人的身教，远远比和娃讲道理有效直接得多。
娃在一定年龄，是不愿意和父母沟通太多的，但是父母要保持距离的同时，睁大眼睛。
。娃有任何distress，其实上心的父母应该能感受到

【在 u*****a 的大作中提到】

A*u2010-08-03 07:08

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这个讲得非常靠谱。
哪怕上什么藤校，没有感受到孩子的Distress的父母是不称职的，失败的，不过要称
职实在也是蛮难的。

【在 x**s 的大作中提到】

: 光讲道理是没用的，尤其是初中以后的娃，要家长自己监督自己的行为。孩子考试没拿
: 到A，自己会不会表现得很粗暴很失望？孩子比赛没进球，没提高速度，自己会不会吼
: 他，或者表现很郁闷？等等。还有大人对自己生活里遇到的挫折，如何面对。。。。。
: 大人的身教，远远比和娃讲道理有效直接得多。
: 娃在一定年龄，是不愿意和父母沟通太多的，但是父母要保持距离的同时，睁大眼睛。
: 。娃有任何distress，其实上心的父母应该能感受到

t*r2010-08-03 07:08

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严重属实！

【在 x**s 的大作中提到】

s*t2010-08-03 07:08

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不要给孩子压力太大。人生的路很长。藤校只是刚开始。排名100名以上的学校facutly
，大公司里的scientist，很多都不是藤校毕业。

u*a2010-08-03 07:08

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【侨报记者林菁5月6日纽约报道】新美国传媒（New American Media）和亚裔儿童
与家庭联盟（Coalition for Asian American Children and Family）6日举办座谈会
，邀请专家谈论亚裔青少年面临的精神健康问题。他们指出，亚裔青少年患抑郁症的比
例相当高，由于亚裔文化将之视为不光彩的事情，因此他们的病情经常被忽视。
采写过相关报道的记者Katherine Kam指出，亚裔被视为“模范少数族裔”，当其
他族裔听说亚裔青少年也患抑郁症时，他们觉得很惊讶。事实上，亚裔青少年患抑郁症
的比例很高，有统计称年龄在12到18岁的亚裔青少年中，12%有抑郁症。
Kam还指出，亚裔家长经常拒绝让孩子进行治疗，因为传统文化把精神健康问题视
为耻辱，家长不想别的孩子骂自己的小孩“神经病”，怕小孩在学校被欺负，也担心小
孩将来难以进入好的学校。
服务于南亚裔的纽约儿童中心（Child Center of New York）Reshma Shah指出，
新移民来到美国后，失去了原来拥有的家庭支持系统，他们感到孤立无助，精神压抑。
针对亚裔的文化特点，在为患者进行治疗时，如果让他们的家人也参与其中，效果会很
好。她建议家长到学校来听相关的精神健康讲座，家长了解精神健康，就更容易接受
它。
亨利社区服务(Henry Street Settlement)心理治疗中心的洪文俊指出，中国文化
把身体与精神健康视为不可分开，他们通常不会去看心理医生和吃西药，而选择用其他
方法，例如食物、针灸、桑拿来调理。在为亚裔患者治疗时，最好不排除这些方法，可
以让他们试一试，如果没有效果，再建议他们使用西方的治疗方法。
以前很多健康保险不包括精神健康，但奥巴马推行的医疗保险新政策，要求保险公
司必须提供最基本的十项保险内容，其中包括精神健康，这项保险包括了心理医生，理
疗和复健。
奥巴马医疗保险排除了成年的非法移民，但包括了19岁以下的无身份儿童和青少年
，他们如果来自收入低家庭可以申请Medicaid和Child’s Health Plus。