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a*e
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Betting (1): Bengie's Free Throws
Betting, especially making silly bets, is a quintessential part of a trader'
s life. It almost seems that you have to take part in all these bets to be
considered a legit trader. This makes sense. Even though some traders
fiercely deny it, trading is essentially betting. Just like betting, you
only trade when you believe you have some advantage, like a deeper
understanding of the subject matter or a unique insight, over your opponent.
Just like betting, for a trade to take place, all the parties involved must
believe that the odds are in their favor. And just like betting, people can
have a strong conviction for the most absurd reasons.
In the 2.5 years that I was a trader, I witnessed and heard about a long
list of ridiculous bets. I personally participated in a few of them (I once
lost 50 USD for betting on George W. Bush's height. He turned out to be
shorter than I thought) and was a spectator in many more. I can't recall
them all, but I will tell you about memorable ones.
The one that transacted the most amount of money was Bengie's free throws.
Bengie is a bond options trader who probably spends more time playing poker
than trading in the pit (a pit is where traders and brokers gather to
interact. You have probably seen it on CNBC). He is a noted womanizer and
borderline alcoholic. I heard that he routinely showed up to work smelling
like beer. He is also an avid basketball player, and that's how this
particular bet arose. At one time, one of his coworkers asked him how many
free throws he could make out of one hundred. Bengie boasted that he could
do 85 or so on a good day.
"85!? Are you serious?" "Yea." "You know Reggie Miller's career average is
like 90%, right?" "So? It's not like the 90% free throw rate is the only
thing Miller did to become a legendary shooting guard." "I bet you can't do
85. That's just ridiculous." "Ohh yes. I can do it." "Do you wanna bet?"
This is how 99.9% of the bets start: two people having starkly different
opinions about something, and not willing to concede their respective
opinions.
This particular bet spread really fast in the office, and everyone thought
Bengie was out of his mind. So everyone started selling him "free throw"
futures. Here is a crash course on how these trader bets work. People first
come up with an "underlying", or "future", that they can quantify. In the
free throw case, this was the number of free throws that Bengie makes out of
one hundred tries. Then, they agree on how the future's price settles. In
Bengie's free throw bet, the settle price of the future is the number of
free throws out of one hundred that Bengie makes on a particular occasion.
That's it for the set-up. You realize profit or loss by buying and selling
these futures, or if you want to get fancy, by trading derivatives on those
futures.
Here is a dead simple example: suppose you don't think Bengie could make
more than 70 free throws. Then, you might want to sell a future at the price
of 70. Now, suppose Bengie ends up making 60 free throws out of 100. You
realize 1 (the number of futures) x 10 (the difference 70 - 60) = 10 dollars
. Implicit in this example was that the unit price is 1 USD, which was
usually the case. Continuing with the same example, if Bengie made 80 free
throws, you would lose 10 dollars, and if he made exactly 70 free throws, no
money would exchanges hands.
Most of you realize that this system, as explained, can be gamed. What if
Bengie sells a ton of futures and intentionally misses all the free throws?
But don't worry, traders are not idiots. They would not trade with Bengie
where Bengie can control the outcome easily to profit himself.
The market went out of control. People sold boatloads of futures to Bengie
at the price of 85, 80, 75, all the way down to 70. The market was one sided
all the way, and the only buyer was Bengie himself. At the end, Bengie had
to put together an Excel spreadsheet just to keep track of his purchases.
How can a 30-something pit trader who comes to work hung over twice a week
can make 85% of his free throws? No fucking way. That was what was on
everyone's mind.
Results? Bengie made 88 free throws and 40,000 USD.
People just could not believe the event unfolding in front of their eyes.
One by one, Bengie made free throws. The guy at the line was not an
inebriated philanderer but a razor-sharp trader locking in profit from a bet
he knew he could win. When Bengie made his 60th throw with 36 shots to go,
people ran outside and rushed to the ATM machines, getting ready to pay him
up. By the 100th throw, everyone had their dues ready. Nobody thought he was
as goog as Reggie Miller when it came to free throws, and in hindsight, it
was silly for them to assume that.
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m*e
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不过今晚没有空。。。
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U*f
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这个故事告诉我们:
不要从历史数据来想当然地,认定一件事。

trader'
opponent.
must
can

【在 a*****e 的大作中提到】
: Betting (1): Bengie's Free Throws
: Betting, especially making silly bets, is a quintessential part of a trader'
: s life. It almost seems that you have to take part in all these bets to be
: considered a legit trader. This makes sense. Even though some traders
: fiercely deny it, trading is essentially betting. Just like betting, you
: only trade when you believe you have some advantage, like a deeper
: understanding of the subject matter or a unique insight, over your opponent.
: Just like betting, for a trade to take place, all the parties involved must
: believe that the odds are in their favor. And just like betting, people can
: have a strong conviction for the most absurd reasons.

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qt
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等mm的长篇了~~
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w*1
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nice。lol

【在 a*****e 的大作中提到】
: Betting (1): Bengie's Free Throws
: Betting, especially making silly bets, is a quintessential part of a trader'
: s life. It almost seems that you have to take part in all these bets to be
: considered a legit trader. This makes sense. Even though some traders
: fiercely deny it, trading is essentially betting. Just like betting, you
: only trade when you believe you have some advantage, like a deeper
: understanding of the subject matter or a unique insight, over your opponent.
: Just like betting, for a trade to take place, all the parties involved must
: believe that the odds are in their favor. And just like betting, people can
: have a strong conviction for the most absurd reasons.

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q*c
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“男人随年纪增值”是男生的一厢情愿的半边天梦想,

【在 m**********e 的大作中提到】
: 不过今晚没有空。。。
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f*n
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很搞,另一篇也不错,我以前有个老师也是喜欢“you know"我一节课大概画了9个正字。
http://hlt.posterous.com/betting-2-you-know-you-know-you-know

trader'
opponent.
must
can

【在 a*****e 的大作中提到】
: Betting (1): Bengie's Free Throws
: Betting, especially making silly bets, is a quintessential part of a trader'
: s life. It almost seems that you have to take part in all these bets to be
: considered a legit trader. This makes sense. Even though some traders
: fiercely deny it, trading is essentially betting. Just like betting, you
: only trade when you believe you have some advantage, like a deeper
: understanding of the subject matter or a unique insight, over your opponent.
: Just like betting, for a trade to take place, all the parties involved must
: believe that the odds are in their favor. And just like betting, people can
: have a strong conviction for the most absurd reasons.

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f*e
8
显而易见,单论年龄,男女都是越老越不值钱。
所谓越老越值钱的,只不过是指事业的辉煌抵消年龄的劣势且有余,并不是年龄劣势变
成优势了。
这点东西,不知MM如何弄个长篇。。。
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i*e
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Lessons learned:
1. Never think the opponent is an idiot and bet because of that;
2. Never bet on a thing that you have don't have an estimate of the odds or
you don't have an estimate which is as good as your opponents;
In this example, clearly Bengie knows the odds that he can get 80 out of 100
, as he often practice. Others also have an estimate, but a much worse one
based on in general how people can shoot.

trader'
opponent.
must
can

【在 a*****e 的大作中提到】
: Betting (1): Bengie's Free Throws
: Betting, especially making silly bets, is a quintessential part of a trader'
: s life. It almost seems that you have to take part in all these bets to be
: considered a legit trader. This makes sense. Even though some traders
: fiercely deny it, trading is essentially betting. Just like betting, you
: only trade when you believe you have some advantage, like a deeper
: understanding of the subject matter or a unique insight, over your opponent.
: Just like betting, for a trade to take place, all the parties involved must
: believe that the odds are in their favor. And just like betting, people can
: have a strong conviction for the most absurd reasons.

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x*8
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如果女生根本不CARE 男生的事业和金钱,
那男生肯定是越老越没有人要, 拿什么来抵消啊, 男生根本没有优势乐啊, 呵呵
。。。

【在 f*****e 的大作中提到】
: 显而易见,单论年龄,男女都是越老越不值钱。
: 所谓越老越值钱的,只不过是指事业的辉煌抵消年龄的劣势且有余,并不是年龄劣势变
: 成优势了。
: 这点东西,不知MM如何弄个长篇。。。

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f*e
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一件东西如果有价值,你不买,也会有人买的。
真的物超所值的东西,除非广告不利,很少会剩下。

【在 x**********8 的大作中提到】
: 如果女生根本不CARE 男生的事业和金钱,
: 那男生肯定是越老越没有人要, 拿什么来抵消啊, 男生根本没有优势乐啊, 呵呵
: 。。。

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m*e
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不是准备写长篇,不过现在明显low watt,尤其灌了大堆关于食物的水后。。。
我指的是,统计意义而言,哪怕“事业的辉煌抵消年龄的劣势且有余”也是illusion。
。。
martingale的一个最明显的特征就是不能arbitrage。相对起金融市场,婚姻市场更符
合martingale的特征。。。

【在 f*****e 的大作中提到】
: 显而易见,单论年龄,男女都是越老越不值钱。
: 所谓越老越值钱的,只不过是指事业的辉煌抵消年龄的劣势且有余,并不是年龄劣势变
: 成优势了。
: 这点东西,不知MM如何弄个长篇。。。

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f*e
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等MM好文。。。
个人感觉,杨振宁是“事业的辉煌抵消年龄劣势”的典型。。。是illusion 吗?。。。

【在 m**********e 的大作中提到】
: 不是准备写长篇,不过现在明显low watt,尤其灌了大堆关于食物的水后。。。
: 我指的是,统计意义而言,哪怕“事业的辉煌抵消年龄的劣势且有余”也是illusion。
: 。。
: martingale的一个最明显的特征就是不能arbitrage。相对起金融市场,婚姻市场更符
: 合martingale的特征。。。

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m*e
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杨在28岁娶杜聿女儿,23岁大家闺秀,翁帆除了样子和她象外,其他都不如。

。。

【在 f*****e 的大作中提到】
: 等MM好文。。。
: 个人感觉,杨振宁是“事业的辉煌抵消年龄劣势”的典型。。。是illusion 吗?。。。

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a*y
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这个说明相对还是贬值的,只是绝对值的老本还可以吃吃?

【在 m**********e 的大作中提到】
: 杨在28岁娶杜聿女儿,23岁大家闺秀,翁帆除了样子和她象外,其他都不如。
:
: 。。

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f*e
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可是翁帆年轻漂亮啊,和杨相比有年龄优势啊。。。他用什么弥补的。
呵呵,还是等你的理论吧,我想法应该是过于简化了。。。

【在 m**********e 的大作中提到】
: 杨在28岁娶杜聿女儿,23岁大家闺秀,翁帆除了样子和她象外,其他都不如。
:
: 。。

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y*a
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原来杨的前妻这么好看呀
杨年轻的时候就显得好ws。。。

【在 m**********e 的大作中提到】
: 杨在28岁娶杜聿女儿,23岁大家闺秀,翁帆除了样子和她象外,其他都不如。
:
: 。。

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y*a
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co 坐等MM的理论 :)
MM的水平该发多少社科类文章啊,羡慕啊

【在 f*****e 的大作中提到】
: 可是翁帆年轻漂亮啊,和杨相比有年龄优势啊。。。他用什么弥补的。
: 呵呵,还是等你的理论吧,我想法应该是过于简化了。。。

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f*e
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嗯,我明白你意思了,你是强调,杨振宁年龄越大越不值钱了。。。
可是,社会上很多人的想法,25岁毛头小伙,比不上35岁精英男值钱。
假设这两个是同一个人,那岂不是真的貌似越老越值钱了?(自然这个值钱,是因为获
得新的成就,而不是因为年龄增大了10岁)
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R*k
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也有人会愚蠢到 被 忽悠
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g*n
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男人mid 30是prime time. 女人early 20是prime time.
成功的老男人还是可以从年轻女人那里得到真爱。但老女人却无法从年轻男人那里得到
真爱。

【在 m**********e 的大作中提到】
: 不过今晚没有空。。。
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w*6
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其实到了美国,一定年龄,国男成就差别不会特别大,这个是由美国这个社会性质决定的
基本上国男拿到绿卡,同时再有一些年专业工作经验,日子肯定会过的越来越好
不过很多国男在此之前,过的比较苦。
很多小女生都不愿意共苦,只想同甘的话,自然大龄男人看上去会值钱

【在 f*****e 的大作中提到】
: 嗯,我明白你意思了,你是强调,杨振宁年龄越大越不值钱了。。。
: 可是,社会上很多人的想法,25岁毛头小伙,比不上35岁精英男值钱。
: 假设这两个是同一个人,那岂不是真的貌似越老越值钱了?(自然这个值钱,是因为获
: 得新的成就,而不是因为年龄增大了10岁)

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y*a
23
即便值钱,也很可悲
很畸形

定的

【在 w******6 的大作中提到】
: 其实到了美国,一定年龄,国男成就差别不会特别大,这个是由美国这个社会性质决定的
: 基本上国男拿到绿卡,同时再有一些年专业工作经验,日子肯定会过的越来越好
: 不过很多国男在此之前,过的比较苦。
: 很多小女生都不愿意共苦,只想同甘的话,自然大龄男人看上去会值钱

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I*s
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杨和杜好有夫妻相,翁也长得好像杨,好像他女儿,俺越来越相信夫妻相了,杨和翁都
是属于live life to the full的人,以翁的年龄和婚史,再嫁也是性格缺陷或是社会
地位财富比她低很多的,年龄也要大,索性就彻底放掉某个鸡肋了,
大概因为她看得透做得出,才会遭致如此猛烈的非议,以绝后人步她后尘

【在 m**********e 的大作中提到】
: 杨在28岁娶杜聿女儿,23岁大家闺秀,翁帆除了样子和她象外,其他都不如。
:
: 。。

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y*a
25
以翁的年龄和婚史,再嫁也是性格缺陷或是社会地位财富比她低很多的...
那就应该嫁她爷爷辈的了?

【在 I*******s 的大作中提到】
: 杨和杜好有夫妻相,翁也长得好像杨,好像他女儿,俺越来越相信夫妻相了,杨和翁都
: 是属于live life to the full的人,以翁的年龄和婚史,再嫁也是性格缺陷或是社会
: 地位财富比她低很多的,年龄也要大,索性就彻底放掉某个鸡肋了,
: 大概因为她看得透做得出,才会遭致如此猛烈的非议,以绝后人步她后尘

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y*3
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杜聿明啊。。。

【在 m**********e 的大作中提到】
: 杨在28岁娶杜聿女儿,23岁大家闺秀,翁帆除了样子和她象外,其他都不如。
:
: 。。

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b*k
27
她现在老的很快

【在 y*****a 的大作中提到】
: 以翁的年龄和婚史,再嫁也是性格缺陷或是社会地位财富比她低很多的...
: 那就应该嫁她爷爷辈的了?

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qt
28
真心觉得翁很悲催, sigh...

【在 I*******s 的大作中提到】
: 杨和杜好有夫妻相,翁也长得好像杨,好像他女儿,俺越来越相信夫妻相了,杨和翁都
: 是属于live life to the full的人,以翁的年龄和婚史,再嫁也是性格缺陷或是社会
: 地位财富比她低很多的,年龄也要大,索性就彻底放掉某个鸡肋了,
: 大概因为她看得透做得出,才会遭致如此猛烈的非议,以绝后人步她后尘

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y*3
29
一点不觉得。。

【在 qt 的大作中提到】
: 真心觉得翁很悲催, sigh...
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qt
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为嘛?反正我受不了。。。

【在 y**********3 的大作中提到】
: 一点不觉得。。
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y*a
31
再老也没有混身老年斑吧
真不知道她怎么忍受这样一个爷爷做自己老公的
真是最美好的年华都毁掉了

【在 b*******k 的大作中提到】
: 她现在老的很快
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y*3
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她那最美好的年华到底有什么美好的了
不就是上班回家
跟了老杨整个眼界都不一样了

【在 qt 的大作中提到】
: 为嘛?反正我受不了。。。
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qt
33
k, 最好的年华不能有两情相悦的男欢女爱了,什么眼界都是虚的。。。

【在 y**********3 的大作中提到】
: 她那最美好的年华到底有什么美好的了
: 不就是上班回家
: 跟了老杨整个眼界都不一样了

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y*3
34
男欢女爱才是虚的 当刻享受了 回头就什么都不是 什么也留不下

【在 qt 的大作中提到】
: k, 最好的年华不能有两情相悦的男欢女爱了,什么眼界都是虚的。。。
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l*f
35
life is a supermartingale :)

【在 m**********e 的大作中提到】
: 不是准备写长篇,不过现在明显low watt,尤其灌了大堆关于食物的水后。。。
: 我指的是,统计意义而言,哪怕“事业的辉煌抵消年龄的劣势且有余”也是illusion。
: 。。
: martingale的一个最明显的特征就是不能arbitrage。相对起金融市场,婚姻市场更符
: 合martingale的特征。。。

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I*s
36
倘若她看透了也很难尽兴享受男欢女爱的,本身如果也不是欲求不满心气却很高杨是难
得的选择

【在 qt 的大作中提到】
: k, 最好的年华不能有两情相悦的男欢女爱了,什么眼界都是虚的。。。
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y*a
37
re

【在 qt 的大作中提到】
: k, 最好的年华不能有两情相悦的男欢女爱了,什么眼界都是虚的。。。
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y*o
38
赞同你第一句,否定你第二句。只不过不论男女,年轻的时候都不会看人,所谓幸福一
半靠悟性一半靠运气。你确定成功的老男人得到的是年轻女人的真爱?

【在 g******n 的大作中提到】
: 男人mid 30是prime time. 女人early 20是prime time.
: 成功的老男人还是可以从年轻女人那里得到真爱。但老女人却无法从年轻男人那里得到
: 真爱。

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