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谁能科普一下Azure对小公司，创业有没有潜在的帮助？

谁能科普一下Azure对小公司，创业有没有潜在的帮助？# Programming - 葵花宝典

B*t2008-12-20 08:12

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看來又是一部神棍片。。。第一話花了我一整個鐘頭才大致看明白。太多亂七八糟意義
不明的片假名詞了，而且是那種找到英文原文也不懂意思的那種。
總之，大概是這樣的一個故事。主角波留真理（森功至啊森功至，原來他還活著嘛。。
。orz）是一個Diver，50年前在一次和海が燃える有關的事故中陷入沉睡，甦醒的時候
已經世事全非了。。。每日在海邊感慨舊事。（20多歲的心理裝在70多歲的身體裡，真
是悲哀啊。。。）這個時候在他的面前出現了某蘿莉，在她的激勵下，真理決定重新去
追尋自己的夢想，投入大海的懷抱。。。就在此時，兩人眼前又出現了海が燃える的現
象。。。大概就是這樣的。。。
如果我沒有理解錯，50年後的有兩個不同的表裏的世界存在，即人們所生活的物理狀態
的現實和一個叫做metareal的空間。雖然真理的身體在現實中已經老朽，但是仍然可以
在metareal中做他的diver的樣子。總之又是這種很神棍的設定，和士郎正宗一向的作品
主題算是一脈相承的樣子。
最後吐下槽。。。這個片子裡面的女性無論年齡，這個身材好像都有些過于豐滿了。。
。看厭了今年四月番中無數面條狀的人設的同學們，看看這片子換個口味也

n*w2008-12-20 08:12

2 楼

或者别的公司的云也行。

L*s2008-12-20 08:12

3 楼

那个久岛50年后的样子没变，机器人？
士郎正宗的片子真是玄乎，结束不久的Ghost Hound，到最后我都没怎么看明白

【在 B*****t 的大作中提到】

: 看來又是一部神棍片。。。第一話花了我一整個鐘頭才大致看明白。太多亂七八糟意義
: 不明的片假名詞了，而且是那種找到英文原文也不懂意思的那種。
: 總之，大概是這樣的一個故事。主角波留真理（森功至啊森功至，原來他還活著嘛。。
: 。orz）是一個Diver，50年前在一次和海が燃える有關的事故中陷入沉睡，甦醒的時候
: 已經世事全非了。。。每日在海邊感慨舊事。（20多歲的心理裝在70多歲的身體裡，真
: 是悲哀啊。。。）這個時候在他的面前出現了某蘿莉，在她的激勵下，真理決定重新去
: 追尋自己的夢想，投入大海的懷抱。。。就在此時，兩人眼前又出現了海が燃える的現
: 象。。。大概就是這樣的。。。
: 如果我沒有理解錯，50年後的有兩個不同的表裏的世界存在，即人們所生活的物理狀態
: 的現實和一個叫做metareal的空間。雖然真理的身體在現實中已經老朽，但是仍然可以

N*n2008-12-20 08:12

4 楼

If you choose .Net as the framework then yes.

【在 n*w 的大作中提到】

: 或者别的公司的云也行。

f*n2008-12-20 08:12

5 楼

变老了.. 老了的身体真丑 :(
想象如果有一天一觉醒来变成70岁还真是可怕阿

【在 L******s 的大作中提到】

: 那个久岛50年后的样子没变，机器人？
: 士郎正宗的片子真是玄乎，结束不久的Ghost Hound，到最后我都没怎么看明白

k*r2008-12-20 08:12

6 楼

i imagine they'll open up more in the future. for the time being,
if you don't use .net, check out amazon's EC2 and S3.

【在 N********n 的大作中提到】

:
: If you choose .Net as the framework then yes.

L*s2008-12-20 08:12

7 楼

那个潜水的波留是老了，久岛也老了吗？那个主任不是久岛吗?

【在 f*****n 的大作中提到】

: 变老了.. 老了的身体真丑 :(
: 想象如果有一天一觉醒来变成70岁还真是可怕阿

n*w2008-12-20 08:12

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我目前还想不到小公司什么应用需要用到云。

f*n2008-12-20 08:12

9 楼

我觉得在海下的八成是精神体之类的把?

【在 L******s 的大作中提到】

: 那个潜水的波留是老了，久岛也老了吗？那个主任不是久岛吗?

k*r2008-12-20 08:12

10 楼

大数据量，或者迅速发展中

【在 n*w 的大作中提到】

: 我目前还想不到小公司什么应用需要用到云。

B*t2008-12-20 08:12

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偶認為，這兩個人已經是在裏世界裡的存在了。。。

【在 L******s 的大作中提到】

: 那个潜水的波留是老了，久岛也老了吗？那个主任不是久岛吗?

N*n2008-12-20 08:12

12 楼

That's too much to support if opened up.

【在 k***r 的大作中提到】

: i imagine they'll open up more in the future. for the time being,
: if you don't use .net, check out amazon's EC2 and S3.

k*r2008-12-20 08:12

13 楼

I don't know the details yet but if it works like EC2, then
you'll get a box where you can run anything :)

【在 N********n 的大作中提到】

:
: That's too much to support if opened up.

N*n2008-12-20 08:12

14 楼

Amazon's has a mix of server hosting including Linux, Windows,
Apache, IIS and Sql Server. Very interesting. They probably put
a lot of pressure on traditional hosting firms like Go Daddy.

【在 k***r 的大作中提到】

: I don't know the details yet but if it works like EC2, then
: you'll get a box where you can run anything :)

n*w2008-12-20 08:12

15 楼

这些都要收钱的吧。有Microsoft technet plus subscription 的话有没有free的
azure?

c*c2008-12-20 08:12

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当然有帮助

【在 n*w 的大作中提到】

: 或者别的公司的云也行。

k*r2008-12-20 08:12

17 楼

I'm sure they do, although some old fashion folks, like me,
still prefer a physical box, but as a matter of fact, a lot
of times even when you think it's a physical box, it's nothing
more than a VPS.
Amazon, gg and M$ seem to be taking very different approaches
in cloud computing. It'll be interesting to find out how this
battle develops. Any Azure detail info?

【在 N********n 的大作中提到】

:
: Amazon's has a mix of server hosting including Linux, Windows,
: Apache, IIS and Sql Server. Very interesting. They probably put
: a lot of pressure on traditional hosting firms like Go Daddy.

k*r2008-12-20 08:12

18 楼

Azure still feels like half-baked. Let's wait and see if they
are able to put together something really useful, and easy to use.
Since gg appengine is free for small traffic, that puts some
pressure on M$. I'd imagine they'll have free dev account but
not sure about production.

【在 n*w 的大作中提到】

: 这些都要收钱的吧。有Microsoft technet plus subscription 的话有没有free的
: azure?

k*r2008-12-20 08:12

19 楼

http://www.microsoft.com/azure/windowsazure.mspx
"Windows Azure supports standards and protocols including SOAP,
REST and XML. Windows Azure welcomes third party tools and languages
such as Eclipse, Ruby, PHP, and Python."
Not sure what "welcome" means, though. Probably from remote
as clients. If that's the case, it doesn't help much.

【在 N********n 的大作中提到】

:
: Amazon's has a mix of server hosting including Linux, Windows,
: Apache, IIS and Sql Server. Very interesting. They probably put
: a lot of pressure on traditional hosting firms like Go Daddy.

c*e2008-12-20 08:12

20 楼

Azure was designed apart from Amazon's approach from the beginning, though
it's defnitely inspired by EC2 and S3. In Azure after you deployed a web
role or worker role, you can extend it by simply increasing the instance
number in our config file. You don't need to worry about how to upgrade you
system when more and more traffic and requests come in. Check out one of
their customers: www.bluehoo.com.
In Acure you are using computation and storage without specificly owning a
machine (VM or phisic

c*e2008-12-20 08:12

21 楼

Basically you can run what ever you want under the framework. For example,
the storage in Azure is accessed through REST. There are python codes on web
to read and write blobs to Azure.

【在 k***r 的大作中提到】

: http://www.microsoft.com/azure/windowsazure.mspx
: "Windows Azure supports standards and protocols including SOAP,
: REST and XML. Windows Azure welcomes third party tools and languages
: such as Eclipse, Ruby, PHP, and Python."
: Not sure what "welcome" means, though. Probably from remote
: as clients. If that's the case, it doesn't help much.

k*r2008-12-20 08:12

22 楼

I think you can pretty much bare machines with EC2 and S3, other than
hadoop, probably. With AppEngine, you get a programming language and
some libraries, and a programming model. I'm still not sure what you'll
get with azure yet...

you

【在 c****e 的大作中提到】

: Azure was designed apart from Amazon's approach from the beginning, though
: it's defnitely inspired by EC2 and S3. In Azure after you deployed a web
: role or worker role, you can extend it by simply increasing the instance
: number in our config file. You don't need to worry about how to upgrade you
: system when more and more traffic and requests come in. Check out one of
: their customers: www.bluehoo.com.
: In Acure you are using computation and storage without specificly owning a
: machine (VM or phisic

c*e2008-12-20 08:12

23 楼

try Azure SDK, you will see the service model andthe library.

【在 k***r 的大作中提到】

: I think you can pretty much bare machines with EC2 and S3, other than
: hadoop, probably. With AppEngine, you get a programming language and
: some libraries, and a programming model. I'm still not sure what you'll
: get with azure yet...
:
: you