N*L
2 楼
劳驾版主置顶。谢谢。大家都很忙,
用下面那个在线请愿快一些。
===============================
NIU会员给国会议员请愿信模版
http://bit.ly/f64wKI
NIU会员给国会议员请愿在线请愿链接:
http://bit.ly/EB2CPetition (简短链接)
或者(长链接):
http://www.petition2congress.com/4267/end-discriminatory-practi
在线请愿方式:
1)输入姓名,可以不在网站上显示
2)输入邮政编码,网站会根据邮编找到你所住地的
议员联系方式
3)自己适当更改一下,网站上的文本格式有点乱,可以从
上面的Word文件拷贝。
4)发送。
5)完成。
用下面那个在线请愿快一些。
===============================
NIU会员给国会议员请愿信模版
http://bit.ly/f64wKI
NIU会员给国会议员请愿在线请愿链接:
http://bit.ly/EB2CPetition (简短链接)
或者(长链接):
http://www.petition2congress.com/4267/end-discriminatory-practi
在线请愿方式:
1)输入姓名,可以不在网站上显示
2)输入邮政编码,网站会根据邮编找到你所住地的
议员联系方式
3)自己适当更改一下,网站上的文本格式有点乱,可以从
上面的Word文件拷贝。
4)发送。
5)完成。
x*y
3 楼
audition 或者audacity
谢啦
谢啦
M*z
4 楼
前两天的消息和讨论:Angular Announces AngularDart
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6677481
直接贴过来我当时写的,少码点字
If Google is able to get browsers provide the UX capability same as or even
better than Androd/iOS does, things will be different. I'm a layman of web
development. But I think this is something worth noticing. The current UX
capability in browsers is definitely not a strong point compared with native
apps. Google's strategy seems to take territories of internet through
browsers. In the mid/long term, making the gap between web app and native
app smaller or close to zero in different aspects(such as UX, product
development) will probably be one of its high level focuses.
如果换一台硬件设备都是可能的,那么换掉浏览器,门槛一定更低。当时的讨论,似乎
绝大多数人都集中于技术层面。问题在于,如果不是独一份的技术,那么,每一层面的
技术都是为另一层的某些目的服务。从这个角度看,我觉得至少要把非技术因素纳入考
虑范围内。
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6677481
直接贴过来我当时写的,少码点字
If Google is able to get browsers provide the UX capability same as or even
better than Androd/iOS does, things will be different. I'm a layman of web
development. But I think this is something worth noticing. The current UX
capability in browsers is definitely not a strong point compared with native
apps. Google's strategy seems to take territories of internet through
browsers. In the mid/long term, making the gap between web app and native
app smaller or close to zero in different aspects(such as UX, product
development) will probably be one of its high level focuses.
如果换一台硬件设备都是可能的,那么换掉浏览器,门槛一定更低。当时的讨论,似乎
绝大多数人都集中于技术层面。问题在于,如果不是独一份的技术,那么,每一层面的
技术都是为另一层的某些目的服务。从这个角度看,我觉得至少要把非技术因素纳入考
虑范围内。
s*u
5 楼
If your documents are ready, it is fine.
Q*K
6 楼
re
大家请用这个
【在 N*********L 的大作中提到】
: 劳驾版主置顶。谢谢。大家都很忙,
: 用下面那个在线请愿快一些。
: ===============================
: NIU会员给国会议员请愿信模版
: http://bit.ly/f64wKI
: NIU会员给国会议员请愿在线请愿链接:
: http://bit.ly/EB2CPetition (简短链接)
: 或者(长链接):
: http://www.petition2congress.com/4267/end-discriminatory-practi
: 在线请愿方式:
大家请用这个
【在 N*********L 的大作中提到】
: 劳驾版主置顶。谢谢。大家都很忙,
: 用下面那个在线请愿快一些。
: ===============================
: NIU会员给国会议员请愿信模版
: http://bit.ly/f64wKI
: NIU会员给国会议员请愿在线请愿链接:
: http://bit.ly/EB2CPetition (简短链接)
: 或者(长链接):
: http://www.petition2congress.com/4267/end-discriminatory-practi
: 在线请愿方式:
x*n
7 楼
multitrack / options / metronome
select enable metronome
select enable metronome
g*g
8 楼
dart没啥戏,要想M$, Apple穿一条Google整的裤子,难度太大了。
even
native
【在 M****z 的大作中提到】
: 前两天的消息和讨论:Angular Announces AngularDart
: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6677481
: 直接贴过来我当时写的,少码点字
: If Google is able to get browsers provide the UX capability same as or even
: better than Androd/iOS does, things will be different. I'm a layman of web
: development. But I think this is something worth noticing. The current UX
: capability in browsers is definitely not a strong point compared with native
: apps. Google's strategy seems to take territories of internet through
: browsers. In the mid/long term, making the gap between web app and native
: app smaller or close to zero in different aspects(such as UX, product
even
native
【在 M****z 的大作中提到】
: 前两天的消息和讨论:Angular Announces AngularDart
: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6677481
: 直接贴过来我当时写的,少码点字
: If Google is able to get browsers provide the UX capability same as or even
: better than Androd/iOS does, things will be different. I'm a layman of web
: development. But I think this is something worth noticing. The current UX
: capability in browsers is definitely not a strong point compared with native
: apps. Google's strategy seems to take territories of internet through
: browsers. In the mid/long term, making the gap between web app and native
: app smaller or close to zero in different aspects(such as UX, product
s*u
9 楼
YOu need get approved from your Institute in China, without their approve,
there is no way for you to get J waiver. So contact your Institute in China
right away.
there is no way for you to get J waiver. So contact your Institute in China
right away.
G*t
10 楼
re
it took me only 20 seconds to send it to my senators and others...
【在 N*********L 的大作中提到】
: 劳驾版主置顶。谢谢。大家都很忙,
: 用下面那个在线请愿快一些。
: ===============================
: NIU会员给国会议员请愿信模版
: http://bit.ly/f64wKI
: NIU会员给国会议员请愿在线请愿链接:
: http://bit.ly/EB2CPetition (简短链接)
: 或者(长链接):
: http://www.petition2congress.com/4267/end-discriminatory-practi
: 在线请愿方式:
it took me only 20 seconds to send it to my senators and others...
【在 N*********L 的大作中提到】
: 劳驾版主置顶。谢谢。大家都很忙,
: 用下面那个在线请愿快一些。
: ===============================
: NIU会员给国会议员请愿信模版
: http://bit.ly/f64wKI
: NIU会员给国会议员请愿在线请愿链接:
: http://bit.ly/EB2CPetition (简短链接)
: 或者(长链接):
: http://www.petition2congress.com/4267/end-discriminatory-practi
: 在线请愿方式:
x*y
11 楼
三朵这几天少见阿
M*z
12 楼
如果dart在某种意义上是google在前端的objective c呢?
他有可能降低针对chrome的web app的开发门槛和交互极限吗?如果可以做到,那么就
意味着会有相当数量专门针对chrome的app出现。我们可以在这里把chrome想象成
xPhone。我觉得google在策略上是在做类似iPhone已经做到的事情。让更多我这样蹩脚
的新手进来,扩充app制作的人群,但是人群扩充后,可能会带来更有活力的app产品生
态。
另外,google其实是想有跳跃式发展的浏览器的存在的吧? 拘泥于现在的技术标准,很
多app化的东西相比native app还是有限制感。既然上世纪打过浏览器大战,近20年过
去了,作为依托浏览器生存的google再挑起一战,我觉得机会还是挺大的。
其实firefox也在做类似的事情,就看谁领先吧?而且换浏览器对用户来说成本很低啊。
浏览器的游戏里,google可能是最aggressive的参与者了,虽然大家都在向前进,但步
伐有大有小。
【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】
: dart没啥戏,要想M$, Apple穿一条Google整的裤子,难度太大了。
:
: even
: native
他有可能降低针对chrome的web app的开发门槛和交互极限吗?如果可以做到,那么就
意味着会有相当数量专门针对chrome的app出现。我们可以在这里把chrome想象成
xPhone。我觉得google在策略上是在做类似iPhone已经做到的事情。让更多我这样蹩脚
的新手进来,扩充app制作的人群,但是人群扩充后,可能会带来更有活力的app产品生
态。
另外,google其实是想有跳跃式发展的浏览器的存在的吧? 拘泥于现在的技术标准,很
多app化的东西相比native app还是有限制感。既然上世纪打过浏览器大战,近20年过
去了,作为依托浏览器生存的google再挑起一战,我觉得机会还是挺大的。
其实firefox也在做类似的事情,就看谁领先吧?而且换浏览器对用户来说成本很低啊。
浏览器的游戏里,google可能是最aggressive的参与者了,虽然大家都在向前进,但步
伐有大有小。
【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】
: dart没啥戏,要想M$, Apple穿一条Google整的裤子,难度太大了。
:
: even
: native
g*s
13 楼
re
【在 N*********L 的大作中提到】
: 劳驾版主置顶。谢谢。大家都很忙,
: 用下面那个在线请愿快一些。
: ===============================
: NIU会员给国会议员请愿信模版
: http://bit.ly/f64wKI
: NIU会员给国会议员请愿在线请愿链接:
: http://bit.ly/EB2CPetition (简短链接)
: 或者(长链接):
: http://www.petition2congress.com/4267/end-discriminatory-practi
: 在线请愿方式:
【在 N*********L 的大作中提到】
: 劳驾版主置顶。谢谢。大家都很忙,
: 用下面那个在线请愿快一些。
: ===============================
: NIU会员给国会议员请愿信模版
: http://bit.ly/f64wKI
: NIU会员给国会议员请愿在线请愿链接:
: http://bit.ly/EB2CPetition (简短链接)
: 或者(长链接):
: http://www.petition2congress.com/4267/end-discriminatory-practi
: 在线请愿方式:
x*n
14 楼
正在瞎忙活中
m*x
15 楼
我觉得更有希望的是Portable Native Client (PNaCl)
https://developers.google.com/native-client/pnacl-preview/nacl-and-pnacl
这个在通用机器码的层次上fix了问题。以后的Web开发可以象桌面一样采用任何语言。
https://developers.google.com/native-client/pnacl-preview/nacl-and-pnacl
这个在通用机器码的层次上fix了问题。以后的Web开发可以象桌面一样采用任何语言。
e*s
16 楼
1.诉求太多
2.缺乏证据
建议咨询了律师以后再修改这封信
欲速则不达
不要感情用事
【在 N*********L 的大作中提到】
: 劳驾版主置顶。谢谢。大家都很忙,
: 用下面那个在线请愿快一些。
: ===============================
: NIU会员给国会议员请愿信模版
: http://bit.ly/f64wKI
: NIU会员给国会议员请愿在线请愿链接:
: http://bit.ly/EB2CPetition (简短链接)
: 或者(长链接):
: http://www.petition2congress.com/4267/end-discriminatory-practi
: 在线请愿方式:
2.缺乏证据
建议咨询了律师以后再修改这封信
欲速则不达
不要感情用事
【在 N*********L 的大作中提到】
: 劳驾版主置顶。谢谢。大家都很忙,
: 用下面那个在线请愿快一些。
: ===============================
: NIU会员给国会议员请愿信模版
: http://bit.ly/f64wKI
: NIU会员给国会议员请愿在线请愿链接:
: http://bit.ly/EB2CPetition (简短链接)
: 或者(长链接):
: http://www.petition2congress.com/4267/end-discriminatory-practi
: 在线请愿方式:
g*g
18 楼
If Chromebook were as popular as iOS or Android device, yes, you can
have dart-version websites tailored for Chromebook. But that's a big
if and probably won't even happen.
啊。
【在 M****z 的大作中提到】
: 如果dart在某种意义上是google在前端的objective c呢?
: 他有可能降低针对chrome的web app的开发门槛和交互极限吗?如果可以做到,那么就
: 意味着会有相当数量专门针对chrome的app出现。我们可以在这里把chrome想象成
: xPhone。我觉得google在策略上是在做类似iPhone已经做到的事情。让更多我这样蹩脚
: 的新手进来,扩充app制作的人群,但是人群扩充后,可能会带来更有活力的app产品生
: 态。
: 另外,google其实是想有跳跃式发展的浏览器的存在的吧? 拘泥于现在的技术标准,很
: 多app化的东西相比native app还是有限制感。既然上世纪打过浏览器大战,近20年过
: 去了,作为依托浏览器生存的google再挑起一战,我觉得机会还是挺大的。
: 其实firefox也在做类似的事情,就看谁领先吧?而且换浏览器对用户来说成本很低啊。
have dart-version websites tailored for Chromebook. But that's a big
if and probably won't even happen.
啊。
【在 M****z 的大作中提到】
: 如果dart在某种意义上是google在前端的objective c呢?
: 他有可能降低针对chrome的web app的开发门槛和交互极限吗?如果可以做到,那么就
: 意味着会有相当数量专门针对chrome的app出现。我们可以在这里把chrome想象成
: xPhone。我觉得google在策略上是在做类似iPhone已经做到的事情。让更多我这样蹩脚
: 的新手进来,扩充app制作的人群,但是人群扩充后,可能会带来更有活力的app产品生
: 态。
: 另外,google其实是想有跳跃式发展的浏览器的存在的吧? 拘泥于现在的技术标准,很
: 多app化的东西相比native app还是有限制感。既然上世纪打过浏览器大战,近20年过
: 去了,作为依托浏览器生存的google再挑起一战,我觉得机会还是挺大的。
: 其实firefox也在做类似的事情,就看谁领先吧?而且换浏览器对用户来说成本很低啊。
S*X
19 楼
谢谢, 辛苦了
【在 N*********L 的大作中提到】
: 劳驾版主置顶。谢谢。大家都很忙,
: 用下面那个在线请愿快一些。
: ===============================
: NIU会员给国会议员请愿信模版
: http://bit.ly/f64wKI
: NIU会员给国会议员请愿在线请愿链接:
: http://bit.ly/EB2CPetition (简短链接)
: 或者(长链接):
: http://www.petition2congress.com/4267/end-discriminatory-practi
: 在线请愿方式:
【在 N*********L 的大作中提到】
: 劳驾版主置顶。谢谢。大家都很忙,
: 用下面那个在线请愿快一些。
: ===============================
: NIU会员给国会议员请愿信模版
: http://bit.ly/f64wKI
: NIU会员给国会议员请愿在线请愿链接:
: http://bit.ly/EB2CPetition (简短链接)
: 或者(长链接):
: http://www.petition2congress.com/4267/end-discriminatory-practi
: 在线请愿方式:
M*z
21 楼
似乎有点意思,不过还要看和商业利益怎么同向
【在 m***x 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得更有希望的是Portable Native Client (PNaCl)
: https://developers.google.com/native-client/pnacl-preview/nacl-and-pnacl
: 这个在通用机器码的层次上fix了问题。以后的Web开发可以象桌面一样采用任何语言。
【在 m***x 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得更有希望的是Portable Native Client (PNaCl)
: https://developers.google.com/native-client/pnacl-preview/nacl-and-pnacl
: 这个在通用机器码的层次上fix了问题。以后的Web开发可以象桌面一样采用任何语言。
s*r
22 楼
GOOOOOOOOOOD job.
x*y
23 楼
谢
M*z
24 楼
google实验式的产品很多(很多人管这叫half-baked),真的留存的并不多。不过这似
乎是他们做事的风格,和apple不太一样。所以,我个人也认为google是在尝试,多管
齐下,然后看局势发展,到时候哪个最有利,就大规模采用那个最有力的。
其实按google最完美的设想,应该是chrome占据市场主要份额,所以针对chrome的,也
就是全平台都可以使用的。只要app有价值,易用性好,如果其他浏览器不能展现相同
的水准,自然就边缘化了。到时候浏览器就不是慢慢进化,而是断层式的突变了。也就
类似于传统手机和智能手机在iphone面市后的境遇。
其实我不是google fanboy,不过是觉得他们现在意图明显,拿过来讨论下,呵呵。
【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】
: If Chromebook were as popular as iOS or Android device, yes, you can
: have dart-version websites tailored for Chromebook. But that's a big
: if and probably won't even happen.
:
: 啊。
乎是他们做事的风格,和apple不太一样。所以,我个人也认为google是在尝试,多管
齐下,然后看局势发展,到时候哪个最有利,就大规模采用那个最有力的。
其实按google最完美的设想,应该是chrome占据市场主要份额,所以针对chrome的,也
就是全平台都可以使用的。只要app有价值,易用性好,如果其他浏览器不能展现相同
的水准,自然就边缘化了。到时候浏览器就不是慢慢进化,而是断层式的突变了。也就
类似于传统手机和智能手机在iphone面市后的境遇。
其实我不是google fanboy,不过是觉得他们现在意图明显,拿过来讨论下,呵呵。
【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】
: If Chromebook were as popular as iOS or Android device, yes, you can
: have dart-version websites tailored for Chromebook. But that's a big
: if and probably won't even happen.
:
: 啊。
S*L
25 楼
不是写论文,也不是打官司。请个愿而已。
唐僧一下:
http://blog.163.com/[email protected]/blog/static/9732634820081043283
【在 e***s 的大作中提到】
: 1.诉求太多
: 2.缺乏证据
: 建议咨询了律师以后再修改这封信
: 欲速则不达
: 不要感情用事
唐僧一下:
http://blog.163.com/[email protected]/blog/static/9732634820081043283
【在 e***s 的大作中提到】
: 1.诉求太多
: 2.缺乏证据
: 建议咨询了律师以后再修改这封信
: 欲速则不达
: 不要感情用事
M*z
26 楼
这东西印证了俺对google策略的猜测,Executive Summary已经说得巨清楚了
Google Dash/Dart: Leaked Internal Email (2010)
https://gist.github.com/paulmillr/1208618
Executive Summary
Javascript has fundamental flaws that cannot be fixed merely by evolving the
language. We'll adopt a two-pronged strategy for the future of Javascript:
- Harmony (low risk/low reward): continue working in conjunction with
TC39 (the EcmaScript standards body) to evolve Javascript
- Dash (high risk/high reward): Develop a new language (called Dash) that
aims to maintain the dynamic nature of Javascript but have a better
performance profile and be amenable to tooling for large projects. Push for
Dash to become an open standard and be adopted by other browsers. Developers
using Dash tooling will be able to use a cross-compiler to target
Javascript for browsers that do not support Dash natively.
That’s the 10,000 foot overview. For more detail (including an FAQ), read
on...
另外一则新闻:
Google launches Portable Native Client, lets developers compile their code
to run on any hardware and website
http://thenextweb.com/google/2013/11/12/google-launches-portabl
Google Dash/Dart: Leaked Internal Email (2010)
https://gist.github.com/paulmillr/1208618
Executive Summary
Javascript has fundamental flaws that cannot be fixed merely by evolving the
language. We'll adopt a two-pronged strategy for the future of Javascript:
- Harmony (low risk/low reward): continue working in conjunction with
TC39 (the EcmaScript standards body) to evolve Javascript
- Dash (high risk/high reward): Develop a new language (called Dash) that
aims to maintain the dynamic nature of Javascript but have a better
performance profile and be amenable to tooling for large projects. Push for
Dash to become an open standard and be adopted by other browsers. Developers
using Dash tooling will be able to use a cross-compiler to target
Javascript for browsers that do not support Dash natively.
That’s the 10,000 foot overview. For more detail (including an FAQ), read
on...
另外一则新闻:
Google launches Portable Native Client, lets developers compile their code
to run on any hardware and website
http://thenextweb.com/google/2013/11/12/google-launches-portabl
e*s
27 楼
愿意出力的同学值得鼓励,所以有句话我一直不想说:
没有证据的,过于感情用事的指控对方,会一定程度上损害中国人的形象,会失掉更多
人的信任。
我没有说请愿不行,关键是为什么请愿,首先应该是要求公开数据
【在 S*L 的大作中提到】
: 不是写论文,也不是打官司。请个愿而已。
: 唐僧一下:
: http://blog.163.com/[email protected]/blog/static/9732634820081043283
没有证据的,过于感情用事的指控对方,会一定程度上损害中国人的形象,会失掉更多
人的信任。
我没有说请愿不行,关键是为什么请愿,首先应该是要求公开数据
【在 S*L 的大作中提到】
: 不是写论文,也不是打官司。请个愿而已。
: 唐僧一下:
: http://blog.163.com/[email protected]/blog/static/9732634820081043283
b*e
28 楼
我觉得还不如go戏大。
even
native
【在 M****z 的大作中提到】
: 前两天的消息和讨论:Angular Announces AngularDart
: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6677481
: 直接贴过来我当时写的,少码点字
: If Google is able to get browsers provide the UX capability same as or even
: better than Androd/iOS does, things will be different. I'm a layman of web
: development. But I think this is something worth noticing. The current UX
: capability in browsers is definitely not a strong point compared with native
: apps. Google's strategy seems to take territories of internet through
: browsers. In the mid/long term, making the gap between web app and native
: app smaller or close to zero in different aspects(such as UX, product
even
native
【在 M****z 的大作中提到】
: 前两天的消息和讨论:Angular Announces AngularDart
: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6677481
: 直接贴过来我当时写的,少码点字
: If Google is able to get browsers provide the UX capability same as or even
: better than Androd/iOS does, things will be different. I'm a layman of web
: development. But I think this is something worth noticing. The current UX
: capability in browsers is definitely not a strong point compared with native
: apps. Google's strategy seems to take territories of internet through
: browsers. In the mid/long term, making the gap between web app and native
: app smaller or close to zero in different aspects(such as UX, product
S*X
31 楼
这个数据是对的么, 那我就建议把这个加到petition letter里乐, 好的哇?
历年EB的数据:
China EB1 EB2 EB3 Total
China (2000) 4,103 6,459 3290 13,852
China (2001) 6,482 11,666 4604 22,752
China (2002) 4,239 10,518 4684 19,441
China (2003) 1,654 2,613 2619 6,886
China (2004) 3,939 6,686 4190 14,815
China (2005) 6,422 9,346 4761 20,529
China (2006) 3,281 3,347 2477 9,105
China (2007) 2,982 6,797 3580 13,359
China (2008) 5,605 6,965 1985 14,555
China (2009) 4,999 3,046 1027 9,072
China (2010) 6,741 6,505 3676 16,922
India EB1 EB2 EB3 Total
India (2000) 2,457 7,346 5476 15,279
India (2001) 3,543 21,355 16339 41,237
India (2002) 2,820 21,310 17354 41,484
India (2003) 1,266 8,536 10647 20,449
India (2004) 2,998 16,262 19889 22,887
India (2005) 6,336 16,687 23250 46,273
India (2006) 3,156 3,720 3006 9,882
India (2007) 6,203 6,203 17795 30,201
India (2008) 5,327 14,819 3576 23,722
India (2009) 6,672 10,124 2224 19,020
India (2010) 6,741 19,961 3036 29,738
如果只是计算EB2 的 SO:
Year India China Ratio
2000 4,546 3,659 1.24 : 1
2001 18,555 8,866 2.09 : 1
2002 18,510 7,718 2.40 : 1
2003 5,736 ? ?
2004 19,198 3,886 4.94 : 1
2005 13,887 6,446 2.15 : 1
2006 920 547 1.68 : 1
2007 3,403 3,997 0.85 : 1
2008 12,019 4,165 2.88 : 1
2009 7,324 246 29.78 : 1
2010 17,161 3,705 4.63 : 1
【在 e***s 的大作中提到】
: 愿意出力的同学值得鼓励,所以有句话我一直不想说:
:
: 没有证据的,过于感情用事的指控对方,会一定程度上损害中国人的形象,会失掉更多
: 人的信任。
:
: 我没有说请愿不行,关键是为什么请愿,首先应该是要求公开数据
历年EB的数据:
China EB1 EB2 EB3 Total
China (2000) 4,103 6,459 3290 13,852
China (2001) 6,482 11,666 4604 22,752
China (2002) 4,239 10,518 4684 19,441
China (2003) 1,654 2,613 2619 6,886
China (2004) 3,939 6,686 4190 14,815
China (2005) 6,422 9,346 4761 20,529
China (2006) 3,281 3,347 2477 9,105
China (2007) 2,982 6,797 3580 13,359
China (2008) 5,605 6,965 1985 14,555
China (2009) 4,999 3,046 1027 9,072
China (2010) 6,741 6,505 3676 16,922
India EB1 EB2 EB3 Total
India (2000) 2,457 7,346 5476 15,279
India (2001) 3,543 21,355 16339 41,237
India (2002) 2,820 21,310 17354 41,484
India (2003) 1,266 8,536 10647 20,449
India (2004) 2,998 16,262 19889 22,887
India (2005) 6,336 16,687 23250 46,273
India (2006) 3,156 3,720 3006 9,882
India (2007) 6,203 6,203 17795 30,201
India (2008) 5,327 14,819 3576 23,722
India (2009) 6,672 10,124 2224 19,020
India (2010) 6,741 19,961 3036 29,738
如果只是计算EB2 的 SO:
Year India China Ratio
2000 4,546 3,659 1.24 : 1
2001 18,555 8,866 2.09 : 1
2002 18,510 7,718 2.40 : 1
2003 5,736 ? ?
2004 19,198 3,886 4.94 : 1
2005 13,887 6,446 2.15 : 1
2006 920 547 1.68 : 1
2007 3,403 3,997 0.85 : 1
2008 12,019 4,165 2.88 : 1
2009 7,324 246 29.78 : 1
2010 17,161 3,705 4.63 : 1
【在 e***s 的大作中提到】
: 愿意出力的同学值得鼓励,所以有句话我一直不想说:
:
: 没有证据的,过于感情用事的指控对方,会一定程度上损害中国人的形象,会失掉更多
: 人的信任。
:
: 我没有说请愿不行,关键是为什么请愿,首先应该是要求公开数据
S*X
32 楼
这个数据是对的么, 那我就建议把这个加到petition letter里乐, 好的哇?
历年EB的数据:
China EB1 EB2 EB3 Total
China (2000) 4,103 6,459 3290 13,852
China (2001) 6,482 11,666 4604 22,752
China (2002) 4,239 10,518 4684 19,441
China (2003) 1,654 2,613 2619 6,886
China (2004) 3,939 6,686 4190 14,815
China (2005) 6,422 9,346 4761 20,529
China (2006) 3,281 3,347 2477 9,105
China (2007) 2,982 6,797 3580 13,359
China (2008) 5,605 6,965 1985 14,555
China (2009) 4,999 3,046 1027 9,072
China (2010) 6,741 6,505 3676 16,922
India EB1 EB2 EB3 Total
India (2000) 2,457 7,346 5476 15,279
India (2001) 3,543 21,355 16339 41,237
India (2002) 2,820 21,310 17354 41,484
India (2003) 1,266 8,536 10647 20,449
India (2004) 2,998 16,262 19889 22,887
India (2005) 6,336 16,687 23250 46,273
India (2006) 3,156 3,720 3006 9,882
India (2007) 6,203 6,203 17795 30,201
India (2008) 5,327 14,819 3576 23,722
India (2009) 6,672 10,124 2224 19,020
India (2010) 6,741 19,961 3036 29,738
如果只是计算EB2 的 SO:
Year India China Ratio
2000 4,546 3,659 1.24 : 1
2001 18,555 8,866 2.09 : 1
2002 18,510 7,718 2.40 : 1
2003 5,736 ? ?
2004 19,198 3,886 4.94 : 1
2005 13,887 6,446 2.15 : 1
2006 920 547 1.68 : 1
2007 3,403 3,997 0.85 : 1
2008 12,019 4,165 2.88 : 1
2009 7,324 246 29.78 : 1
2010 17,161 3,705 4.63 : 1
【在 Q*K 的大作中提到】
: 还是那句老话
: 你如果能更好的处理这些事情,能更好的争取利益
: 非常欢迎你加入NIU来做事情,如果你所说和所做的能获得更广泛支持,那更好
: 要数据的要求petition letter里头有。NIU以前做过努力,uscis曾经的态度比较合作
: 现在需要人来follow up,要不你来做?
历年EB的数据:
China EB1 EB2 EB3 Total
China (2000) 4,103 6,459 3290 13,852
China (2001) 6,482 11,666 4604 22,752
China (2002) 4,239 10,518 4684 19,441
China (2003) 1,654 2,613 2619 6,886
China (2004) 3,939 6,686 4190 14,815
China (2005) 6,422 9,346 4761 20,529
China (2006) 3,281 3,347 2477 9,105
China (2007) 2,982 6,797 3580 13,359
China (2008) 5,605 6,965 1985 14,555
China (2009) 4,999 3,046 1027 9,072
China (2010) 6,741 6,505 3676 16,922
India EB1 EB2 EB3 Total
India (2000) 2,457 7,346 5476 15,279
India (2001) 3,543 21,355 16339 41,237
India (2002) 2,820 21,310 17354 41,484
India (2003) 1,266 8,536 10647 20,449
India (2004) 2,998 16,262 19889 22,887
India (2005) 6,336 16,687 23250 46,273
India (2006) 3,156 3,720 3006 9,882
India (2007) 6,203 6,203 17795 30,201
India (2008) 5,327 14,819 3576 23,722
India (2009) 6,672 10,124 2224 19,020
India (2010) 6,741 19,961 3036 29,738
如果只是计算EB2 的 SO:
Year India China Ratio
2000 4,546 3,659 1.24 : 1
2001 18,555 8,866 2.09 : 1
2002 18,510 7,718 2.40 : 1
2003 5,736 ? ?
2004 19,198 3,886 4.94 : 1
2005 13,887 6,446 2.15 : 1
2006 920 547 1.68 : 1
2007 3,403 3,997 0.85 : 1
2008 12,019 4,165 2.88 : 1
2009 7,324 246 29.78 : 1
2010 17,161 3,705 4.63 : 1
【在 Q*K 的大作中提到】
: 还是那句老话
: 你如果能更好的处理这些事情,能更好的争取利益
: 非常欢迎你加入NIU来做事情,如果你所说和所做的能获得更广泛支持,那更好
: 要数据的要求petition letter里头有。NIU以前做过努力,uscis曾经的态度比较合作
: 现在需要人来follow up,要不你来做?
e*s
33 楼
e*s
35 楼
嗯,还可以想一下,如果senator向O质询,O会怎么defense
【在 S*****X 的大作中提到】
: 这个数据是对的么, 那我就建议把这个加到petition letter里乐, 好的哇?
: 历年EB的数据:
: China EB1 EB2 EB3 Total
: China (2000) 4,103 6,459 3290 13,852
: China (2001) 6,482 11,666 4604 22,752
: China (2002) 4,239 10,518 4684 19,441
: China (2003) 1,654 2,613 2619 6,886
: China (2004) 3,939 6,686 4190 14,815
: China (2005) 6,422 9,346 4761 20,529
: China (2006) 3,281 3,347 2477 9,105
【在 S*****X 的大作中提到】
: 这个数据是对的么, 那我就建议把这个加到petition letter里乐, 好的哇?
: 历年EB的数据:
: China EB1 EB2 EB3 Total
: China (2000) 4,103 6,459 3290 13,852
: China (2001) 6,482 11,666 4604 22,752
: China (2002) 4,239 10,518 4684 19,441
: China (2003) 1,654 2,613 2619 6,886
: China (2004) 3,939 6,686 4190 14,815
: China (2005) 6,422 9,346 4761 20,529
: China (2006) 3,281 3,347 2477 9,105
j*e
36 楼
我觉得eidos的意思是我们不能说假话,或者说夸大事实的说话。这样会失去
creditability。
我觉得这个请愿信里面的一句关键指控奥本的话与事实略有出入,就是“
discriminately holding China EB-2 priority date back and disallowing China
EB-2 to reach its own yearly limit of 2803”,这是一个相当严重的指控,奥很
清楚这个指控的厉害性,所以他至今口风一直很紧,没有把话说死。他只是说会让中国
EB2在8月前reach limit,这也包括在5月就reach limit这种情况。如果我们现在就这
样指控他,到最后他完全可以矢口否认,或者提出数据说,你们5月就reach limit了。
这样我们就失去了creditablity,等于落入他设的陷阱。
他是政客,很知道如何说话留有余地,如何保护自己。我们也要在进攻的同时,注意保
护自己,不要落入他人的陷阱,反而陷自己于不利之地。
【在 e***s 的大作中提到】
: 愿意出力的同学值得鼓励,所以有句话我一直不想说:
:
: 没有证据的,过于感情用事的指控对方,会一定程度上损害中国人的形象,会失掉更多
: 人的信任。
:
: 我没有说请愿不行,关键是为什么请愿,首先应该是要求公开数据
creditability。
我觉得这个请愿信里面的一句关键指控奥本的话与事实略有出入,就是“
discriminately holding China EB-2 priority date back and disallowing China
EB-2 to reach its own yearly limit of 2803”,这是一个相当严重的指控,奥很
清楚这个指控的厉害性,所以他至今口风一直很紧,没有把话说死。他只是说会让中国
EB2在8月前reach limit,这也包括在5月就reach limit这种情况。如果我们现在就这
样指控他,到最后他完全可以矢口否认,或者提出数据说,你们5月就reach limit了。
这样我们就失去了creditablity,等于落入他设的陷阱。
他是政客,很知道如何说话留有余地,如何保护自己。我们也要在进攻的同时,注意保
护自己,不要落入他人的陷阱,反而陷自己于不利之地。
【在 e***s 的大作中提到】
: 愿意出力的同学值得鼓励,所以有句话我一直不想说:
:
: 没有证据的,过于感情用事的指控对方,会一定程度上损害中国人的形象,会失掉更多
: 人的信任。
:
: 我没有说请愿不行,关键是为什么请愿,首先应该是要求公开数据
m*g
38 楼
done
g*n
39 楼
Sent
total 12 sent so far. Good job!
total 12 sent so far. Good job!
l*y
40 楼
我同意eidos的观点。“言之有据。”。
s*r
41 楼
大行不必细谨。 这封信已经很不错了。SUPPORT NIU.
H*k
42 楼
里面几位发了评语的说得很好。俺也差不多,一家人一
年交3万多的税,这些年累计下来总计已经交了三十多万
了,连个绿卡都还没有。苦啊。
Name not displayed | Redmond, WA
We all come here legally and work as scientists/high tech engineers, and are
making tremendous contribution to America and keep this country competitive
in world. We pay tens of thousand taxes every year. Yet we are stuck in the
immigration waiting queue for more than 5 years and nobody care about us.
We make contribute to this country and strongly request our right to be
treated fairly.
Flag Comment
Sun., Apr. 3, 2011 5:08 PM | Madison, WI
The officer who assigned visa bulletin is not doing what he/she supposed to
do. Create this chaos unnecessarily hindering legal immigrants from China,
which eventually will hurt the job creation in US.
President Obama and Secretary Clinton, please investigate this issue and
correct the mistakes as soon as possible!
Flag Comment
Sun., Apr. 3, 2011 4:53 PM | San Jose, CA
I am a sotware engineer and a proud home ower in San Jose, I have been in US
for 7 years and have been working over 5years. I have owned a house for
over 2 years. Every year, my wife and I pay over $20000 for Federal Tax,
State Tax and property Tax. However my greencard still at leat 3 years away.
It is so discouraging that as a honest tax payer who has to wait 10 years
to get the green card while someone else paid nothing in tax but get his
green card smoothly just because he/she is born in some small population
countries!!!!
【在 s***r 的大作中提到】
: 大行不必细谨。 这封信已经很不错了。SUPPORT NIU.
年交3万多的税,这些年累计下来总计已经交了三十多万
了,连个绿卡都还没有。苦啊。
Name not displayed | Redmond, WA
We all come here legally and work as scientists/high tech engineers, and are
making tremendous contribution to America and keep this country competitive
in world. We pay tens of thousand taxes every year. Yet we are stuck in the
immigration waiting queue for more than 5 years and nobody care about us.
We make contribute to this country and strongly request our right to be
treated fairly.
Flag Comment
Sun., Apr. 3, 2011 5:08 PM | Madison, WI
The officer who assigned visa bulletin is not doing what he/she supposed to
do. Create this chaos unnecessarily hindering legal immigrants from China,
which eventually will hurt the job creation in US.
President Obama and Secretary Clinton, please investigate this issue and
correct the mistakes as soon as possible!
Flag Comment
Sun., Apr. 3, 2011 4:53 PM | San Jose, CA
I am a sotware engineer and a proud home ower in San Jose, I have been in US
for 7 years and have been working over 5years. I have owned a house for
over 2 years. Every year, my wife and I pay over $20000 for Federal Tax,
State Tax and property Tax. However my greencard still at leat 3 years away.
It is so discouraging that as a honest tax payer who has to wait 10 years
to get the green card while someone else paid nothing in tax but get his
green card smoothly just because he/she is born in some small population
countries!!!!
【在 s***r 的大作中提到】
: 大行不必细谨。 这封信已经很不错了。SUPPORT NIU.
p*8
43 楼
1。名额是按季度分配的,季度超过限额,可以有排期。
2。上半年的剩余名额可以在第3季度使用。08年和去年就是这么做的。
3。如果说有人算计,那4月的排期就是阴谋。因为到了四月底EB2C超过3季度限额。
4。有人没搞清USCIS数据和DOS数据的区别。
这种信敢发出去???
【在 N*********L 的大作中提到】
: 劳驾版主置顶。谢谢。大家都很忙,
: 用下面那个在线请愿快一些。
: ===============================
: NIU会员给国会议员请愿信模版
: http://bit.ly/f64wKI
: NIU会员给国会议员请愿在线请愿链接:
: http://bit.ly/EB2CPetition (简短链接)
: 或者(长链接):
: http://www.petition2congress.com/4267/end-discriminatory-practi
: 在线请愿方式:
2。上半年的剩余名额可以在第3季度使用。08年和去年就是这么做的。
3。如果说有人算计,那4月的排期就是阴谋。因为到了四月底EB2C超过3季度限额。
4。有人没搞清USCIS数据和DOS数据的区别。
这种信敢发出去???
【在 N*********L 的大作中提到】
: 劳驾版主置顶。谢谢。大家都很忙,
: 用下面那个在线请愿快一些。
: ===============================
: NIU会员给国会议员请愿信模版
: http://bit.ly/f64wKI
: NIU会员给国会议员请愿在线请愿链接:
: http://bit.ly/EB2CPetition (简短链接)
: 或者(长链接):
: http://www.petition2congress.com/4267/end-discriminatory-practi
: 在线请愿方式:
p*8
44 楼
如果不知道移民法的话,请尽快和NIU的老同志(比如iceicer)联系,请教他们。
g*s
45 楼
Can you also provide pdf version for download?
i would prefer not to online submit.
number-allocation-process/
【在 N*********L 的大作中提到】
: 劳驾版主置顶。谢谢。大家都很忙,
: 用下面那个在线请愿快一些。
: ===============================
: NIU会员给国会议员请愿信模版
: http://bit.ly/f64wKI
: NIU会员给国会议员请愿在线请愿链接:
: http://bit.ly/EB2CPetition (简短链接)
: 或者(长链接):
: http://www.petition2congress.com/4267/end-discriminatory-practi
: 在线请愿方式:
i would prefer not to online submit.
number-allocation-process/
【在 N*********L 的大作中提到】
: 劳驾版主置顶。谢谢。大家都很忙,
: 用下面那个在线请愿快一些。
: ===============================
: NIU会员给国会议员请愿信模版
: http://bit.ly/f64wKI
: NIU会员给国会议员请愿在线请愿链接:
: http://bit.ly/EB2CPetition (简短链接)
: 或者(长链接):
: http://www.petition2congress.com/4267/end-discriminatory-practi
: 在线请愿方式:
N*L
46 楼
This could be downloaded as Word document.
http://bit.ly/f64wKI
Currently we don't have fillable PDF forms.
【在 g*********s 的大作中提到】
: Can you also provide pdf version for download?
: i would prefer not to online submit.
:
: number-allocation-process/
http://bit.ly/f64wKI
Currently we don't have fillable PDF forms.
【在 g*********s 的大作中提到】
: Can you also provide pdf version for download?
: i would prefer not to online submit.
:
: number-allocation-process/
b*k
47 楼
Sent
w*g
48 楼
我不喜欢这封信。
一是对O的指控没有法理的支持。
二是对剩余名额分配的建议(按申请人数的比例)是不合理的。要么就平均分,要么就按
PD,都有道理,这个按比例来,两边都靠不上,两边都站不住脚。甚至给人以乞讨的感
谢。
我觉得,我们指控的对象应该变了,请看:http://mitbbs.com/article1/EB23/312779
39_3_0.html。
一是对O的指控没有法理的支持。
二是对剩余名额分配的建议(按申请人数的比例)是不合理的。要么就平均分,要么就按
PD,都有道理,这个按比例来,两边都靠不上,两边都站不住脚。甚至给人以乞讨的感
谢。
我觉得,我们指控的对象应该变了,请看:http://mitbbs.com/article1/EB23/312779
39_3_0.html。
Q*K
49 楼
关于一,你错了,这是有法理依据的
一个国家每年的限额,如果印度5月reach,我们中国也必须reach,否则就违反了non-
discrimination原则
关于二,你可以进行修改。奥的做法有一定法理依据。没什么很好的办法。
【在 w*****g 的大作中提到】
: 我不喜欢这封信。
: 一是对O的指控没有法理的支持。
: 二是对剩余名额分配的建议(按申请人数的比例)是不合理的。要么就平均分,要么就按
: PD,都有道理,这个按比例来,两边都靠不上,两边都站不住脚。甚至给人以乞讨的感
: 谢。
: 我觉得,我们指控的对象应该变了,请看:http://mitbbs.com/article1/EB23/312779
: 39_3_0.html。
一个国家每年的限额,如果印度5月reach,我们中国也必须reach,否则就违反了non-
discrimination原则
关于二,你可以进行修改。奥的做法有一定法理依据。没什么很好的办法。
【在 w*****g 的大作中提到】
: 我不喜欢这封信。
: 一是对O的指控没有法理的支持。
: 二是对剩余名额分配的建议(按申请人数的比例)是不合理的。要么就平均分,要么就按
: PD,都有道理,这个按比例来,两边都靠不上,两边都站不住脚。甚至给人以乞讨的感
: 谢。
: 我觉得,我们指控的对象应该变了,请看:http://mitbbs.com/article1/EB23/312779
: 39_3_0.html。
c*s
51 楼
中国书生有个最大的特点:1.有他人做事的时候,马上觉得别人做的都不好,反对意
见无数。2.没人做事的时候,又都非常安静,自己更不可能出来做哪怕一点实事。
这是中国移民组织的悲哀。QUK我劝你绿了走人吧,基本上我不劝,QUK也肯定已经决心
走了。
见无数。2.没人做事的时候,又都非常安静,自己更不可能出来做哪怕一点实事。
这是中国移民组织的悲哀。QUK我劝你绿了走人吧,基本上我不劝,QUK也肯定已经决心
走了。
K*V
52 楼
support!
Just signed, but seems only <200 people signed. We need more people to take
action
Just signed, but seems only <200 people signed. We need more people to take
action
G*t
55 楼
When you sign it, you can always change it to whatever
ratio you want (e.g., give 1/2 of the numbers to EB2C) by editing the big
text box before sending it to your representatives.
Just my two cents.
【在 w*****g 的大作中提到】
: 我不喜欢这封信。
: 一是对O的指控没有法理的支持。
: 二是对剩余名额分配的建议(按申请人数的比例)是不合理的。要么就平均分,要么就按
: PD,都有道理,这个按比例来,两边都靠不上,两边都站不住脚。甚至给人以乞讨的感
: 谢。
: 我觉得,我们指控的对象应该变了,请看:http://mitbbs.com/article1/EB23/312779
: 39_3_0.html。
ratio you want (e.g., give 1/2 of the numbers to EB2C) by editing the big
text box before sending it to your representatives.
Just my two cents.
【在 w*****g 的大作中提到】
: 我不喜欢这封信。
: 一是对O的指控没有法理的支持。
: 二是对剩余名额分配的建议(按申请人数的比例)是不合理的。要么就平均分,要么就按
: PD,都有道理,这个按比例来,两边都靠不上,两边都站不住脚。甚至给人以乞讨的感
: 谢。
: 我觉得,我们指控的对象应该变了,请看:http://mitbbs.com/article1/EB23/312779
: 39_3_0.html。
G*t
56 楼
I think every letter counts. It is up to the people passionate
about it to evangelize and promote it.
A lot of people don't visit EB23 on a regular basis but go to their
local board quite frequently. So it might be a good idea to forward
this to one's local board (such as Chicago, Florida, Georgia ...)
take
【在 K*V 的大作中提到】
: support!
: Just signed, but seems only <200 people signed. We need more people to take
: action
about it to evangelize and promote it.
A lot of people don't visit EB23 on a regular basis but go to their
local board quite frequently. So it might be a good idea to forward
this to one's local board (such as Chicago, Florida, Georgia ...)
take
【在 K*V 的大作中提到】
: support!
: Just signed, but seems only <200 people signed. We need more people to take
: action
c*s
58 楼
可笑的一群人,鲁迅早就刻画过,多少年了都没变。
非法的站大街不怕被人抓,合法的萎萎懦懦,中国的EB类的就更加不堪了,属于自己的
名额都不敢去争取一下。
..?
【在 b********a 的大作中提到】
: The Mexican can hold a Mexican national flag to support illegal immigrants,
: While we still question ourselves and hesitate to send a few protest emais..?
: If we don't believe in ourselves, then nobody will.
非法的站大街不怕被人抓,合法的萎萎懦懦,中国的EB类的就更加不堪了,属于自己的
名额都不敢去争取一下。
..?
【在 b********a 的大作中提到】
: The Mexican can hold a Mexican national flag to support illegal immigrants,
: While we still question ourselves and hesitate to send a few protest emais..?
: If we don't believe in ourselves, then nobody will.
r*a
59 楼
email 已经发了。
是不是应该准备sue他了。
是不是应该准备sue他了。
j*r
60 楼
2008年曾经做过同样的事。给议员发了信。结果对中国很不利。第二年,中国一共拿了
2803+三十七个名额。
2803+三十七个名额。
j*r
61 楼
不是说不该做什么,而是要想好了再做
O*C
62 楼
You are the 3rd person from New Jersey to sign this petition!
【在 N*********L 的大作中提到】
: 劳驾版主置顶。谢谢。大家都很忙,
: 用下面那个在线请愿快一些。
: ===============================
: NIU会员给国会议员请愿信模版
: http://bit.ly/f64wKI
: NIU会员给国会议员请愿在线请愿链接:
: http://bit.ly/EB2CPetition (简短链接)
: 或者(长链接):
: http://www.petition2congress.com/4267/end-discriminatory-practi
: 在线请愿方式:
【在 N*********L 的大作中提到】
: 劳驾版主置顶。谢谢。大家都很忙,
: 用下面那个在线请愿快一些。
: ===============================
: NIU会员给国会议员请愿信模版
: http://bit.ly/f64wKI
: NIU会员给国会议员请愿在线请愿链接:
: http://bit.ly/EB2CPetition (简短链接)
: 或者(长链接):
: http://www.petition2congress.com/4267/end-discriminatory-practi
: 在线请愿方式:
c*s
63 楼
这位同学你知道多少历史啊。2008LIA还算团结做了点事,当年剩余名额分了不少
,2009因为分裂,中国组织基本没任何行动,光在这里吵架, 结果剩余名额基本
没捞到,自己国家7%的名额都没分够。
2009年底NIU正式成立,2010年初闹了一阵,当年家庭剩余就过来了800,
后面剩余名额分到的数目基本是历史上少有的好年头。你说什么叫有理有据,让猪坚强
出来说说EB3有没法律根据去告,你让过去NIU的老同志出来说说EB2有没理由去要家
庭剩余名额和多争取后面的剩余名额。不懂谦虚点,没坏处。
【在 j****r 的大作中提到】
: 2008年曾经做过同样的事。给议员发了信。结果对中国很不利。第二年,中国一共拿了
: 2803+三十七个名额。
,2009因为分裂,中国组织基本没任何行动,光在这里吵架, 结果剩余名额基本
没捞到,自己国家7%的名额都没分够。
2009年底NIU正式成立,2010年初闹了一阵,当年家庭剩余就过来了800,
后面剩余名额分到的数目基本是历史上少有的好年头。你说什么叫有理有据,让猪坚强
出来说说EB3有没法律根据去告,你让过去NIU的老同志出来说说EB2有没理由去要家
庭剩余名额和多争取后面的剩余名额。不懂谦虚点,没坏处。
【在 j****r 的大作中提到】
: 2008年曾经做过同样的事。给议员发了信。结果对中国很不利。第二年,中国一共拿了
: 2803+三十七个名额。
m*o
64 楼
Sent
number-allocation-process/
【在 N*********L 的大作中提到】
: 劳驾版主置顶。谢谢。大家都很忙,
: 用下面那个在线请愿快一些。
: ===============================
: NIU会员给国会议员请愿信模版
: http://bit.ly/f64wKI
: NIU会员给国会议员请愿在线请愿链接:
: http://bit.ly/EB2CPetition (简短链接)
: 或者(长链接):
: http://www.petition2congress.com/4267/end-discriminatory-practi
: 在线请愿方式:
number-allocation-process/
【在 N*********L 的大作中提到】
: 劳驾版主置顶。谢谢。大家都很忙,
: 用下面那个在线请愿快一些。
: ===============================
: NIU会员给国会议员请愿信模版
: http://bit.ly/f64wKI
: NIU会员给国会议员请愿在线请愿链接:
: http://bit.ly/EB2CPetition (简短链接)
: 或者(长链接):
: http://www.petition2congress.com/4267/end-discriminatory-practi
: 在线请愿方式:
N*L
65 楼
目前为止上百人签名,一共发信两百多封。
十分感谢大家对EB2C的支持。
【在 N*********L 的大作中提到】
: 劳驾版主置顶。谢谢。大家都很忙,
: 用下面那个在线请愿快一些。
: ===============================
: NIU会员给国会议员请愿信模版
: http://bit.ly/f64wKI
: NIU会员给国会议员请愿在线请愿链接:
: http://bit.ly/EB2CPetition (简短链接)
: 或者(长链接):
: http://www.petition2congress.com/4267/end-discriminatory-practi
: 在线请愿方式:
十分感谢大家对EB2C的支持。
【在 N*********L 的大作中提到】
: 劳驾版主置顶。谢谢。大家都很忙,
: 用下面那个在线请愿快一些。
: ===============================
: NIU会员给国会议员请愿信模版
: http://bit.ly/f64wKI
: NIU会员给国会议员请愿在线请愿链接:
: http://bit.ly/EB2CPetition (简短链接)
: 或者(长链接):
: http://www.petition2congress.com/4267/end-discriminatory-practi
: 在线请愿方式:
c*s
66 楼
re
c*n
67 楼
到现在也只有200 多人去网上请愿了。我所在的州居然只有我一个人做了,有些不可思
议。
议。
T*7
70 楼
You are the 23rd person from California to sign this petition!
为什么又要名字,又要地址,电话的呀,搞的我挺害怕的。中间一度想退出来,不过坚
持看完这三页回帖,还是发出去了。
为什么又要名字,又要地址,电话的呀,搞的我挺害怕的。中间一度想退出来,不过坚
持看完这三页回帖,还是发出去了。
w*n
71 楼
发了
z*i
72 楼
I am in illinos, it shows that I have 3 senators:
President Barack Obama
Sen. Richard J. Durbin (D IL)
Sen. Mark Kirk (R IL)
Do you guys have a template so that I can paste into the letter? assuming
that this letter can go to white house. maybe not.
President Barack Obama
Sen. Richard J. Durbin (D IL)
Sen. Mark Kirk (R IL)
Do you guys have a template so that I can paste into the letter? assuming
that this letter can go to white house. maybe not.
y*7
73 楼
Support!!!!!
G*t
74 楼
可从此考贝
NIU会员给国会议员请愿信模版
http://bit.ly/f64wKI
【在 z********i 的大作中提到】
: I am in illinos, it shows that I have 3 senators:
: President Barack Obama
: Sen. Richard J. Durbin (D IL)
: Sen. Mark Kirk (R IL)
: Do you guys have a template so that I can paste into the letter? assuming
: that this letter can go to white house. maybe not.
NIU会员给国会议员请愿信模版
http://bit.ly/f64wKI
【在 z********i 的大作中提到】
: I am in illinos, it shows that I have 3 senators:
: President Barack Obama
: Sen. Richard J. Durbin (D IL)
: Sen. Mark Kirk (R IL)
: Do you guys have a template so that I can paste into the letter? assuming
: that this letter can go to white house. maybe not.
w*i
75 楼
Sent both the emails and letters!
z*i
76 楼
Did you know?
You are the 10th person from Illinois to sign this petition!
The sample letter in the website when I preview has a lot of space and not
aligned returns. So I delete those hard returns to make the paragraph more
complete. I paste here, hopefully it can be copied and pasted easier.
=================
New Immigrants United
End Discriminatory Practice That Led to Disadvantage of China Employment-Based Second Preference in FY 2011
I am writing to express my grave concerns regarding severe discriminatory practice of the crucial visa number allocation process under of the Immigration Visa Control and Report Division (Visa Office). This issue is emergent and needs immediate attention.
Numbers and facts show severe discriminatory practice by the Visa Office with regard to the way visa numbers are assigned to documentarily qualified applicants of China Employment-Based Second Preference (EB2) in FY 2011. Specifically, the Visa Office’s allocation plan violates the non-discrimination principle of INA Sec. 202(a) (1) (A) (See Appendix A). China EB2 is facing the result of losing visa numbers allowed by the law and is the only disadvantaged EB2 group in FY 2011.
Visa Office’s allocation plan violates the non-discrimination principle of INA Sec. 202 (a) (1) (A)
INA 202 specifies a per-country limit to preclude preemption of the annual numbers by one or more foreign states. China and India are the only two oversubscribed countries whose visa demand exceeds the per-country limit. The yearly limit for China EB-2 and India EB-2 are 2,803 each. INA also allows ‘unused visa numbers’ to be shared by oversubscribed countries.
The Visa Office stated in March that there are about 12,000 ‘unused visa numbers’ from EB-1 category to be allocated to EB-2 category. According to INA, no country can start using ‘unused visa numbers’ while another country is still oversubscribed (Priority date is not current) but has NOT reached the yearly limit of 2803. According to the data provided by USCIS, China EB-2 pending cases only decreased by 1350 from Oct.2010 to Mar. 2011, which means China EB-2 is still 1450 away (more than half) to reach yearly per-country limit of 2803.
According to communication with the Visa Office, the Visa Office will advance Indian EB-2 priority date to allow them reaching their country limit and using ‘unused visa numbers’ in May 2011, while discriminately holding China EB-2 priority date back and disallowing China EB-2 to reach its own yearly limit of 2803. In other words, Indian EB-2 is allowed to consume visa numbers at a faster rate and reaching their limit much earlier than China EB-2, which put China EB-2 in a very disadvantaged position. This is not only unfair but violates the non-discrimination principle of INA Sec. 202(a) (1) (A).
Visa bulletin for May 2011 will be announced in about one week, this discriminately and unlawful visa allocation practice must be corrected immediately. We sincerely request and strongly urge actions be immediately taken to stop the Visa Office from this severely discriminatory practice.
China EB2 is the only disadvantaged group in FY 2011
The Visa Office has shown vast inconsistency in the way of allotting visa numbers to different countries. The numbers and facts show that China EB2 as a group is unfairly treated no matter what the explanations might be. This unfortunate situation is due to the discriminatory practice of the visa number allocation process by setting too early cut-off date on China EB2 and limiting our visa number consumption rate while allowing other country like India to consume visa number more quickly, which makes China’s backlog situation much worse. As a matter of fact, China EB2 is the only disadvantaged EB2 group.
Summary
Legal immigration remains a long and exhausting process for many immigrants and their families. These are all people coming here legally and working as scientists and high tech engineers who are making tremendous contribution to America and keep this country competitive in world. Many wait more than five years for immigration visa numbers to be available to them while their lives hang in the balance. Thus, it’s very important to have a fair and transparent visa number allocation process.
Based on the information above, I believe that the current way of allocating visas to China EB2 violates the non-discrimination principle of INA Sec. 202(a) (1) (A). Actions need to be taken immediately to make the corrections and to prevent visa wastage. Therefore, I respectfully expect your assistance to resolve this situation in the following ways:
1. Allow China EB-2 and Indian EB-2 to reach the 2803 country limit at the same time, and advance cut-off date of China EB2 accordingly.
2. Abide the non-discrimination principle of INA Sec. 202(a) (1) (A), and allocate ‘unused visa number’ (spillover visa numbers) fairly among China EB-2 and Indian EB-2: instead of allocating spillover strictly based on priority date which does NOT follow the congressional intent of keeping the flow of immigrants level on a per country basis, we strongly urge the Visa Office to allocate them by sharing them evenly among all countries who are backlogged in the Second Preference (50% each to India and China). This will follow Congressional intent with respect to the spill-over, whereas simply giving them out according to the priority date results in EB-2 India receiving almost all of the spill-over visas.
3. Make the visa allocation process more transparent, providing actual approved immigration visa numbers for each country monthly.
4. Discuss these matters with members of the subcommittee on Immigration and members of the Committee on the Judiciary and explain to them the necessity of urging the Visa Office to follow the INA strictly.
If you have any questions about this, please contact me by email at c*****[email protected]
Thank you
very much for your time and consideration.
Sincerely yours,
A China EB2 applicant and Member of New Immigrants United
Appendix A
INA Sec. 202(a) (1) (A) -
Provisions of the Law on non-discrimination principle
Sec. 202. [8 U.S.C. 1152]
(a) Per Country Level. -
(1) Nondiscrimination. -
(A) Except as specifically provided in paragraph (2) and in sections 101(a)(27), 201(b)(2)(A)(i), and 203, no person shall receive any preference or priority or be discriminated against in the issuance of an immigrant visa because of the person's race, sex, nationality, place of birth, or place of residence.
More information:
http://www.uscis.gov/ilink/docView/SLB/HTML/SLB/0-0-0-1/0-0-0-2
Appendix B
http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/EmploymentDemandUsedForCutOffDa
You are the 10th person from Illinois to sign this petition!
The sample letter in the website when I preview has a lot of space and not
aligned returns. So I delete those hard returns to make the paragraph more
complete. I paste here, hopefully it can be copied and pasted easier.
=================
New Immigrants United
End Discriminatory Practice That Led to Disadvantage of China Employment-Based Second Preference in FY 2011
I am writing to express my grave concerns regarding severe discriminatory practice of the crucial visa number allocation process under of the Immigration Visa Control and Report Division (Visa Office). This issue is emergent and needs immediate attention.
Numbers and facts show severe discriminatory practice by the Visa Office with regard to the way visa numbers are assigned to documentarily qualified applicants of China Employment-Based Second Preference (EB2) in FY 2011. Specifically, the Visa Office’s allocation plan violates the non-discrimination principle of INA Sec. 202(a) (1) (A) (See Appendix A). China EB2 is facing the result of losing visa numbers allowed by the law and is the only disadvantaged EB2 group in FY 2011.
Visa Office’s allocation plan violates the non-discrimination principle of INA Sec. 202 (a) (1) (A)
INA 202 specifies a per-country limit to preclude preemption of the annual numbers by one or more foreign states. China and India are the only two oversubscribed countries whose visa demand exceeds the per-country limit. The yearly limit for China EB-2 and India EB-2 are 2,803 each. INA also allows ‘unused visa numbers’ to be shared by oversubscribed countries.
The Visa Office stated in March that there are about 12,000 ‘unused visa numbers’ from EB-1 category to be allocated to EB-2 category. According to INA, no country can start using ‘unused visa numbers’ while another country is still oversubscribed (Priority date is not current) but has NOT reached the yearly limit of 2803. According to the data provided by USCIS, China EB-2 pending cases only decreased by 1350 from Oct.2010 to Mar. 2011, which means China EB-2 is still 1450 away (more than half) to reach yearly per-country limit of 2803.
According to communication with the Visa Office, the Visa Office will advance Indian EB-2 priority date to allow them reaching their country limit and using ‘unused visa numbers’ in May 2011, while discriminately holding China EB-2 priority date back and disallowing China EB-2 to reach its own yearly limit of 2803. In other words, Indian EB-2 is allowed to consume visa numbers at a faster rate and reaching their limit much earlier than China EB-2, which put China EB-2 in a very disadvantaged position. This is not only unfair but violates the non-discrimination principle of INA Sec. 202(a) (1) (A).
Visa bulletin for May 2011 will be announced in about one week, this discriminately and unlawful visa allocation practice must be corrected immediately. We sincerely request and strongly urge actions be immediately taken to stop the Visa Office from this severely discriminatory practice.
China EB2 is the only disadvantaged group in FY 2011
The Visa Office has shown vast inconsistency in the way of allotting visa numbers to different countries. The numbers and facts show that China EB2 as a group is unfairly treated no matter what the explanations might be. This unfortunate situation is due to the discriminatory practice of the visa number allocation process by setting too early cut-off date on China EB2 and limiting our visa number consumption rate while allowing other country like India to consume visa number more quickly, which makes China’s backlog situation much worse. As a matter of fact, China EB2 is the only disadvantaged EB2 group.
Summary
Legal immigration remains a long and exhausting process for many immigrants and their families. These are all people coming here legally and working as scientists and high tech engineers who are making tremendous contribution to America and keep this country competitive in world. Many wait more than five years for immigration visa numbers to be available to them while their lives hang in the balance. Thus, it’s very important to have a fair and transparent visa number allocation process.
Based on the information above, I believe that the current way of allocating visas to China EB2 violates the non-discrimination principle of INA Sec. 202(a) (1) (A). Actions need to be taken immediately to make the corrections and to prevent visa wastage. Therefore, I respectfully expect your assistance to resolve this situation in the following ways:
1. Allow China EB-2 and Indian EB-2 to reach the 2803 country limit at the same time, and advance cut-off date of China EB2 accordingly.
2. Abide the non-discrimination principle of INA Sec. 202(a) (1) (A), and allocate ‘unused visa number’ (spillover visa numbers) fairly among China EB-2 and Indian EB-2: instead of allocating spillover strictly based on priority date which does NOT follow the congressional intent of keeping the flow of immigrants level on a per country basis, we strongly urge the Visa Office to allocate them by sharing them evenly among all countries who are backlogged in the Second Preference (50% each to India and China). This will follow Congressional intent with respect to the spill-over, whereas simply giving them out according to the priority date results in EB-2 India receiving almost all of the spill-over visas.
3. Make the visa allocation process more transparent, providing actual approved immigration visa numbers for each country monthly.
4. Discuss these matters with members of the subcommittee on Immigration and members of the Committee on the Judiciary and explain to them the necessity of urging the Visa Office to follow the INA strictly.
If you have any questions about this, please contact me by email at c*****[email protected]
Thank you
very much for your time and consideration.
Sincerely yours,
A China EB2 applicant and Member of New Immigrants United
Appendix A
INA Sec. 202(a) (1) (A) -
Provisions of the Law on non-discrimination principle
Sec. 202. [8 U.S.C. 1152]
(a) Per Country Level. -
(1) Nondiscrimination. -
(A) Except as specifically provided in paragraph (2) and in sections 101(a)(27), 201(b)(2)(A)(i), and 203, no person shall receive any preference or priority or be discriminated against in the issuance of an immigrant visa because of the person's race, sex, nationality, place of birth, or place of residence.
More information:
http://www.uscis.gov/ilink/docView/SLB/HTML/SLB/0-0-0-1/0-0-0-2
Appendix B
http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/EmploymentDemandUsedForCutOffDa
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sorry but i personally do not think the letter was well written...
solid evidence and supporting materials are needed,
bare assertion without references may win you temporarily,but may damage
harder later....
solid evidence and supporting materials are needed,
bare assertion without references may win you temporarily,but may damage
harder later....
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