r*a
2 楼
姑姑过来帮我带宝宝两个月，姑姑经济条件不算好，单亲，表弟在上海工作。签证官就
问了几个问题：
你去美国干什么？
你儿子在哪里？
你儿子工作还是读书？
你侄女在美国做什么？
有照片吗？
房产证，银行证明都没看，过了。
问了几个问题：
你去美国干什么？
你儿子在哪里？
你儿子工作还是读书？
你侄女在美国做什么？
有照片吗？
房产证，银行证明都没看，过了。
A*E
3 楼
cong
c*t
4 楼
gongxi
【在 r*******a 的大作中提到】
: 姑姑过来帮我带宝宝两个月，姑姑经济条件不算好，单亲，表弟在上海工作。签证官就
: 问了几个问题：
: 你去美国干什么？
: 你儿子在哪里？
: 你儿子工作还是读书？
: 你侄女在美国做什么？
: 有照片吗？
: 房产证，银行证明都没看，过了。
【在 r*******a 的大作中提到】
: 姑姑过来帮我带宝宝两个月，姑姑经济条件不算好，单亲，表弟在上海工作。签证官就
: 问了几个问题：
: 你去美国干什么？
: 你儿子在哪里？
: 你儿子工作还是读书？
: 你侄女在美国做什么？
: 有照片吗？
: 房产证，银行证明都没看，过了。
b*d
5 楼
恭喜。
c*n
6 楼
cong
f*7
7 楼
congrats! baozi?
【在 m*******e 的大作中提到】
: 工资涨了8%
: 其他没昨变
【在 m*******e 的大作中提到】
: 工资涨了8%
: 其他没昨变
d*s
8 楼
Would you please share your expenince for adding salary? Thanks!
【在 m*******e 的大作中提到】
: 工资涨了8%
: 其他没昨变
【在 m*******e 的大作中提到】
: 工资涨了8%
: 其他没昨变
m*e
9 楼
i called them to negotiate everything.
I asked for an increase of 20K, they agreed an increase of 5K only.
I lower my request to 15K, they said they need to ask school dean. school
dean later agreed on an increase of 10K, making it an 8% increase.
【在 d****s 的大作中提到】
: Would you please share your expenince for adding salary? Thanks!
I asked for an increase of 20K, they agreed an increase of 5K only.
I lower my request to 15K, they said they need to ask school dean. school
dean later agreed on an increase of 10K, making it an 8% increase.
【在 d****s 的大作中提到】
: Would you please share your expenince for adding salary? Thanks!
a*o
10 楼
WOW,这个可是高工资啊！
s*g
11 楼
1w块才8%
你的base有12w？是商学院么
【在 m*******e 的大作中提到】
: i called them to negotiate everything.
: I asked for an increase of 20K, they agreed an increase of 5K only.
: I lower my request to 15K, they said they need to ask school dean. school
: dean later agreed on an increase of 10K, making it an 8% increase.
你的base有12w？是商学院么
【在 m*******e 的大作中提到】
: i called them to negotiate everything.
: I asked for an increase of 20K, they agreed an increase of 5K only.
: I lower my request to 15K, they said they need to ask school dean. school
: dean later agreed on an increase of 10K, making it an 8% increase.
f*7
12 楼
apparently he was offered 125k and bargained to 135k
【在 s******g 的大作中提到】
: 1w块才8%
: 你的base有12w？是商学院么
【在 s******g 的大作中提到】
: 1w块才8%
: 你的base有12w？是商学院么
e*s
13 楼
恭喜，9-month contract？
【在 m*******e 的大作中提到】
: i called them to negotiate everything.
: I asked for an increase of 20K, they agreed an increase of 5K only.
: I lower my request to 15K, they said they need to ask school dean. school
: dean later agreed on an increase of 10K, making it an 8% increase.
【在 m*******e 的大作中提到】
: i called them to negotiate everything.
: I asked for an increase of 20K, they agreed an increase of 5K only.
: I lower my request to 15K, they said they need to ask school dean. school
: dean later agreed on an increase of 10K, making it an 8% increase.
m*e
14 楼
yes, I am on 9-month contract. I negotiated summer support (2 month support)
and did not get anything more.
【在 e*****s 的大作中提到】
: 恭喜，9-month contract？
and did not get anything more.
【在 e*****s 的大作中提到】
: 恭喜，9-month contract？
f*7
15 楼
so your 12-month salary will be around 180k?
thats cool
support)
【在 m*******e 的大作中提到】
: yes, I am on 9-month contract. I negotiated summer support (2 month support)
: and did not get anything more.
thats cool
support)
【在 m*******e 的大作中提到】
: yes, I am on 9-month contract. I negotiated summer support (2 month support)
: and did not get anything more.
m*e
16 楼
For the first three years only. and this salary is typical in my field.
I don't want to show off this... so we can talk about something else. :-)
What I am suggesting is that we Chinese should negotiate more aggressively.
Statistics have shown that Asians and women negotiate less aggressively.
Especially some fresh phds. It may be the first time they receive a real
salary. So they tend to be satisfied with whatever offered to them. It
explains why there exist a huge salary gap later. It is confirmed in this
forum. This is especially true for our Chinese.
Always ask for more salary. It is expected that you do so. I read some
misleading posts here that some people thought they were satisfied with the
initial offer and did not ask for more at all. Even more, they discourage
others from negotiating on salary. I consider this misleading and
irresponsible. Let me explain why.
1. Not negotiating, you are actually lowering the salary for anyone else,
especially the followers.
2. The initial offer is usually lower than the average market salary because
the department expects that you negotiate. If you don't negotiate, the
department has not way to increase it. But the department wants you to be
happy. If you later find your salary is lower than others, you will be
unhappy and the department will be unhappy.
3. It may make the department question your credentials. I once talked with
a school dean. He told me that he was shocked by a Chinese new AP because
that guy accepted the offer as it is right away. The dean told me that his
first reaction was "what's going wrong?! did I not know something about this
guy?"
Just my two cents. Also, some people are so timid and they think they may
risk their offer if they negotiate aggressively, the department may think
him/her greedy. Let me tell you something I was told by a department chair
years ago: if you are so worried about how other people think of you, you
are crazy! Get balls!
【在 f*******7 的大作中提到】
: so your 12-month salary will be around 180k?
: thats cool
:
: support)
I don't want to show off this... so we can talk about something else. :-)
What I am suggesting is that we Chinese should negotiate more aggressively.
Statistics have shown that Asians and women negotiate less aggressively.
Especially some fresh phds. It may be the first time they receive a real
salary. So they tend to be satisfied with whatever offered to them. It
explains why there exist a huge salary gap later. It is confirmed in this
forum. This is especially true for our Chinese.
Always ask for more salary. It is expected that you do so. I read some
misleading posts here that some people thought they were satisfied with the
initial offer and did not ask for more at all. Even more, they discourage
others from negotiating on salary. I consider this misleading and
irresponsible. Let me explain why.
1. Not negotiating, you are actually lowering the salary for anyone else,
especially the followers.
2. The initial offer is usually lower than the average market salary because
the department expects that you negotiate. If you don't negotiate, the
department has not way to increase it. But the department wants you to be
happy. If you later find your salary is lower than others, you will be
unhappy and the department will be unhappy.
3. It may make the department question your credentials. I once talked with
a school dean. He told me that he was shocked by a Chinese new AP because
that guy accepted the offer as it is right away. The dean told me that his
first reaction was "what's going wrong?! did I not know something about this
guy?"
Just my two cents. Also, some people are so timid and they think they may
risk their offer if they negotiate aggressively, the department may think
him/her greedy. Let me tell you something I was told by a department chair
years ago: if you are so worried about how other people think of you, you
are crazy! Get balls!
【在 f*******7 的大作中提到】
: so your 12-month salary will be around 180k?
: thats cool
:
: support)
f*7
17 楼
I am happy for you that you get the salary you want, but the negotiation for
b-school faculty position could be quite different from the negotiation for
a natural sciences position where the size of startup package and lab space
are also very important and how well the lab does has a more significant
impact on the long term earning potential. of course we should negotiate,
but its simply a difference in priorities
.
the
【在 m*******e 的大作中提到】
: For the first three years only. and this salary is typical in my field.
: I don't want to show off this... so we can talk about something else. :-)
: What I am suggesting is that we Chinese should negotiate more aggressively.
: Statistics have shown that Asians and women negotiate less aggressively.
: Especially some fresh phds. It may be the first time they receive a real
: salary. So they tend to be satisfied with whatever offered to them. It
: explains why there exist a huge salary gap later. It is confirmed in this
: forum. This is especially true for our Chinese.
: Always ask for more salary. It is expected that you do so. I read some
: misleading posts here that some people thought they were satisfied with the
b-school faculty position could be quite different from the negotiation for
a natural sciences position where the size of startup package and lab space
are also very important and how well the lab does has a more significant
impact on the long term earning potential. of course we should negotiate,
but its simply a difference in priorities
.
the
【在 m*******e 的大作中提到】
: For the first three years only. and this salary is typical in my field.
: I don't want to show off this... so we can talk about something else. :-)
: What I am suggesting is that we Chinese should negotiate more aggressively.
: Statistics have shown that Asians and women negotiate less aggressively.
: Especially some fresh phds. It may be the first time they receive a real
: salary. So they tend to be satisfied with whatever offered to them. It
: explains why there exist a huge salary gap later. It is confirmed in this
: forum. This is especially true for our Chinese.
: Always ask for more salary. It is expected that you do so. I read some
: misleading posts here that some people thought they were satisfied with the
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