g*n
2 楼
往下到12月底，然后往上1月效应，然后往下。。。然后往上。。。然后。。
c*7
3 楼
不管上下，先弄出水了再说。
m*i
4 楼
I believe Fed will have QE3.. Until they see the inflation...
In this enviroment, I will weight heavy on Stock.
【在 k********n 的大作中提到】
: 往上还是往下？
In this enviroment, I will weight heavy on Stock.
【在 k********n 的大作中提到】
: 往上还是往下？
k*n
5 楼
师傅，搞还是不搞？往上还是往下？
【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】
: I believe Fed will have QE3.. Until they see the inflation...
: In this enviroment, I will weight heavy on Stock.
k*n
6 楼
靠谱。。。。波段操！
【在 g******n 的大作中提到】
: 往下到12月底，然后往上1月效应，然后往下。。。然后往上。。。然后。。
k*n
7 楼
菜花横移啊。。。
【在 c*******7 的大作中提到】
: 不管上下，先弄出水了再说。
b*u
8 楼
nok是好股票，油工你给我171委比我帮你分析分析
k*n
9 楼
哈哈哈哈。
你难道还有我的内线多？
告诉你个内线：北美的写手拼命HYPE 苹果和蝈蝈，贬低nok。其实诺基亚要大BEAT.。。
既然拼命踩nok,为何没人敢烧nok？呵呵
【在 b******u 的大作中提到】
: nok是好股票，油工你给我171委比我帮你分析分析
b*u
10 楼
油工威武
诺基亚的那款新手机估计不行吧
【在 k********n 的大作中提到】
:
: 哈哈哈哈。
: 你难道还有我的内线多？
: 告诉你个内线：北美的写手拼命HYPE 苹果和蝈蝈，贬低nok。其实诺基亚要大BEAT.。。
: 既然拼命踩nok,为何没人敢烧nok？呵呵
诺基亚的那款新手机估计不行吧
【在 k********n 的大作中提到】
:
: 哈哈哈哈。
: 你难道还有我的内线多？
: 告诉你个内线：北美的写手拼命HYPE 苹果和蝈蝈，贬低nok。其实诺基亚要大BEAT.。。
: 既然拼命踩nok,为何没人敢烧nok？呵呵
k*n
11 楼
我打算买N8送人。。。国内热得不行。苹果太麻烦，一会断货，一会水货，一会这，一
会那得。。。其实苹果和nokia算不上什么竞争对手，两家的客户群不是一回事。
苹果是做电脑的，手机只是高端那一块的奢侈品。。。
【在 b******u 的大作中提到】
: 油工威武
: 诺基亚的那款新手机估计不行吧
m*y
12 楼
塞进去。
【在 k********n 的大作中提到】
: 往上还是往下？
【在 k********n 的大作中提到】
: 往上还是往下？
k*n
13 楼
主席威武！
【在 m*********y 的大作中提到】
: 塞进去。
b*u
14 楼
希望他们不要打起来，他们应该有deal吧，要不然这种产业，两个大牛掐起来，都死的
很难看
【在 k********n 的大作中提到】
:
: 主席威武！
很难看
【在 k********n 的大作中提到】
:
: 主席威武！
v*e
15 楼
我一直还这么安慰自己，昨天去看Pink Floyd演唱会，现场五、六十岁的老头儿老太太
人手一部iPhone4，让我认识到这玩意儿早已经不是什么用户群的问题了。。。
【在 k********n 的大作中提到】
:
: 主席威武！
人手一部iPhone4，让我认识到这玩意儿早已经不是什么用户群的问题了。。。
【在 k********n 的大作中提到】
:
: 主席威武！
w*7
16 楼
Nod
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: 我一直还这么安慰自己，昨天去看Pink Floyd演唱会，现场五、六十岁的老头儿老太太
: 人手一部iPhone4，让我认识到这玩意儿早已经不是什么用户群的问题了。。。
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: 我一直还这么安慰自己，昨天去看Pink Floyd演唱会，现场五、六十岁的老头儿老太太
: 人手一部iPhone4，让我认识到这玩意儿早已经不是什么用户群的问题了。。。
k*n
17 楼
呵呵，你说的是美国，nok在北美的市场份额从来就没高过。
美国的市场就算全被苹果和蝈蝈蚕食了，也没啥。。
诺基亚在中国和其他中低端客户占大多数的市场位置还是很牢固的。。。
不敢想象中国的乡镇老百姓也搞个苹果手机，连iTune都玩不转。。。我也玩不转。。
每次换个电脑同步手机，就头痛。。。
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: 我一直还这么安慰自己，昨天去看Pink Floyd演唱会，现场五、六十岁的老头儿老太太
: 人手一部iPhone4，让我认识到这玩意儿早已经不是什么用户群的问题了。。。
c*p
18 楼
中低端客户不山寨了？
f*e
19 楼
不看好
M*y
20 楼
I have some. The profit is gone. I'll hold.
x*1
21 楼
苹果的电脑我不喜欢，还不适应用mac...
他家的手机很好用呀，我每天早上一早起来都用它看股市。。。
【在 k********n 的大作中提到】
:
: 呵呵，你说的是美国，nok在北美的市场份额从来就没高过。
: 美国的市场就算全被苹果和蝈蝈蚕食了，也没啥。。
: 诺基亚在中国和其他中低端客户占大多数的市场位置还是很牢固的。。。
: 不敢想象中国的乡镇老百姓也搞个苹果手机，连iTune都玩不转。。。我也玩不转。。
: 每次换个电脑同步手机，就头痛。。。
他家的手机很好用呀，我每天早上一早起来都用它看股市。。。
【在 k********n 的大作中提到】
:
: 呵呵，你说的是美国，nok在北美的市场份额从来就没高过。
: 美国的市场就算全被苹果和蝈蝈蚕食了，也没啥。。
: 诺基亚在中国和其他中低端客户占大多数的市场位置还是很牢固的。。。
: 不敢想象中国的乡镇老百姓也搞个苹果手机，连iTune都玩不转。。。我也玩不转。。
: 每次换个电脑同步手机，就头痛。。。
w*u
23 楼
男人嘛，都是上了再说
爽不爽要上了才知道。。。
【在 k********n 的大作中提到】
: 往上还是往下？
爽不爽要上了才知道。。。
【在 k********n 的大作中提到】
: 往上还是往下？
l*n
24 楼
Not sure about short term of NOK. However, it does not look great in long
term.
Cell phone industry is experiencing a paradigm shift. NOK's business model
may be sustainable. However, the change of growth may be slim.
term.
Cell phone industry is experiencing a paradigm shift. NOK's business model
may be sustainable. However, the change of growth may be slim.
k*n
25 楼
great to know everybody is negative on NOK...that makes me confident...
end of survey!
end of survey!
f*n
26 楼
同感，一直都对AAPL不感冒，直到前段时间我一个很久不联系的小时候玩的伙计让我帮
忙买iPhone，我才意识到问题的严重性。
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: 我一直还这么安慰自己，昨天去看Pink Floyd演唱会，现场五、六十岁的老头儿老太太
: 人手一部iPhone4，让我认识到这玩意儿早已经不是什么用户群的问题了。。。
忙买iPhone，我才意识到问题的严重性。
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: 我一直还这么安慰自己，昨天去看Pink Floyd演唱会，现场五、六十岁的老头儿老太太
: 人手一部iPhone4，让我认识到这玩意儿早已经不是什么用户群的问题了。。。
k*n
27 楼
Symbian Will Be Smart Phone Leader In Q4 Too! 28
minutes ago
According to the Gartner the smart phone sales were in the Q3 2009 following
in millions of devices:
#1 Symbian 18.3
#2 Research In Motion 8.5
#3 iOS 7.0
#4 Android 1.4
After a year in Q3 2010 the situation changed. RIM dropped to the fourth
place and Android to the second:
#1 Symbian 29.5
#2 Android 20.5
#3 iOS 13.5
#4 Research In Motion 11.9
Symbian sales were increased by 11.2 million devices (62%) in a year.
Symbian sales were mostly Nokia smart phones
and their new devices like N8 were not in the shops yet. They will be in the
Q4 numbers.
The most optimistic estimation so far for the Apple is 20 million units in
Q4/2010. Google announced two weeks ago
that they are now activating 300 000 smart phones in a day. Previously on
this quarter they said that the number was
200 000/day. This calculates to maximum of 27 million unit in Q4/2010.
Nokia has increased their smart phone sales with new Symbian phones so the
situation after the Q4 will be that
Symbian is the winner, then Android and after that Apple iOS.
Every Symbian phone can access the Nokia Ovi App Store and Nokia will gain
more revenues from the apps than
before. The installed base of the Symbian phones is much more larger that
the other phones summed together. Nokia
Ovi App Store is available in more than 190 countries.
I am sorry for all the Nokia short sellers. You will be burned very badly
after the Q4/2010 earnings report of the Nokia
Corporation (NYSE:NOK).
【在 k********n 的大作中提到】
: 往上还是往下？
k*n
28 楼
The good news has been out for a few weeks now - except among US anal-ysts
and blogists. Individual investors in some message boards have been
monitoring top-50 sales lists in various countries and Nokia has been
performing remarkably fine.
Not very much so in the US for obvious reasons (no major operator subsidized
deals yet).
and blogists. Individual investors in some message boards have been
monitoring top-50 sales lists in various countries and Nokia has been
performing remarkably fine.
Not very much so in the US for obvious reasons (no major operator subsidized
deals yet).
b*2
30 楼
有工威武。hia hia hia
k*n
31 楼
BEIJING, Dec 23, 2010 (SinoCast Daily Business Beat via COMTEX) --
SINO Market Research Ltd. today issues a report, according to which Nokia
Corporation (NYSE: NOK | PowerRating)
accounted for the majority of the sales volume of WCDMA mobile phones by
China Unicom (Hong Kong) Ltd. (NYSE:
CHU, SEHK: 0762, and SHSE: 600050) in October 2010. The next was Samsung and
Apple Inc. (Nasdaq: AAPL |
PowerRating) ranked number three thanks to the robust sales of iPhone 4.
The market share for Nokia and Samsung in the WCDMA mobile phone field
respectively hit 55.5% and 14.7% in the
month. Apple took up 7.3% of the market with one model alone.
Insiders believe that the success of Nokia and Samsung resulted from their
wide sales network and strong brand
influence. Apple should have obtained larger sales volume and market share,
except the supply shortage of iPhone 4.
However, iPhone 4 took the first place among high-end mobile phones in terms
of sales volume in October. Following
is Generosity from Samsung. Besides, Nokia C7 Mocha Brown is expected to
snatch the largest sales volume among
medium-grade mobile phones, because of its fashionable orientation and
support from China Unicom.
【在 k********n 的大作中提到】
: 往上还是往下？
c*s
32 楼
油哥，这点我就要跟你讲了，我家小乡镇企业，老板给几十个中层小经理一人一个，公
司专人负责帮他们玩转，国内要火起来了，不存在这个问题，他们根本不要管老百姓，
把中国有购买力的人给忽悠了就足够了，这点跟美国一样，美国的乡镇老百姓用苹果的
一样相对有限
【在 k********n 的大作中提到】
:
: BEIJING, Dec 23, 2010 (SinoCast Daily Business Beat via COMTEX) --
: SINO Market Research Ltd. today issues a report, according to which Nokia
: Corporation (NYSE: NOK | PowerRating)
: accounted for the majority of the sales volume of WCDMA mobile phones by
: China Unicom (Hong Kong) Ltd. (NYSE:
: CHU, SEHK: 0762, and SHSE: 600050) in October 2010. The next was Samsung and
: Apple Inc. (Nasdaq: AAPL |
: PowerRating) ranked number three thanks to the robust sales of iPhone 4.
: The market share for Nokia and Samsung in the WCDMA mobile phone field
司专人负责帮他们玩转，国内要火起来了，不存在这个问题，他们根本不要管老百姓，
把中国有购买力的人给忽悠了就足够了，这点跟美国一样，美国的乡镇老百姓用苹果的
一样相对有限
【在 k********n 的大作中提到】
:
: BEIJING, Dec 23, 2010 (SinoCast Daily Business Beat via COMTEX) --
: SINO Market Research Ltd. today issues a report, according to which Nokia
: Corporation (NYSE: NOK | PowerRating)
: accounted for the majority of the sales volume of WCDMA mobile phones by
: China Unicom (Hong Kong) Ltd. (NYSE:
: CHU, SEHK: 0762, and SHSE: 600050) in October 2010. The next was Samsung and
: Apple Inc. (Nasdaq: AAPL |
: PowerRating) ranked number three thanks to the robust sales of iPhone 4.
: The market share for Nokia and Samsung in the WCDMA mobile phone field
k*n
33 楼
iphone到头了， 卫生巾不错看好。
别的我就不多说了
别的我就不多说了
k*n
34 楼
FYI
http://blogs.nokia.com/nseries/2010/12/22/low-light-imaging-on-the-nokia-n8-who-is-afraid-of-the-dark/
【在 k********n 的大作中提到】
: iphone到头了， 卫生巾不错看好。
: 别的我就不多说了
k*n
35 楼
NEW YORK, Dec 22, 2010 (BUSINESS WIRE) --Nokia Siemens Networks has been
ranked at the top of the latest
Vendor Matrix released by ABI Research.
Huawei and Alcatel-Lucent claimed the second and third spots in the company'
s new evaluation of worldwide LTE
base station vendors.
The Vendor Matrix is an analytical tool developed by ABI Research to provide
a clear understanding of vendors'
positions in specific markets. Vendors are assessed on the important
parameters of "innovation" and "implementation"
across several criteria unique to each vendor matrix.
"NSN is the market leader because of its contracts," comments research
analyst Xavier Ortiz, "and due to its high
interest in early market research and development. It has positioned itself
well without even considering the business
that its acquisition of Motorola's wireless infrastructure division will
bring. Huawei, while having a slightly higher score in
innovation due to its 4G experience prior to LTE, was behind NSN in the
implementation categories. Alcatel Lucent
had a well-rounded score, following close behind the top two in both
innovation and implementation."
For this particular matrix, under "innovation," ABI Research examined the
vendors' records in early product
development; their LTE R&D investment and commitment; their control of
essential LTE intellectual property; and their
development of "small cells." Also included the calculation were vendors'
support for TD-LTE, their WiMAX experience,
their support for multiple standards, and the availability of self-
organizing networks.
Under "implementation," ABI Research scrutinized the following criteria:
market share (RF contracts), major customer
wins, the number of trials acquired, the vendor's partnerships within the
ecosystem, and their end-to-end solutions.
To view a chart showing the rankings of the "top nine" firms in this Vendor
Matrix, please visit "LTE Base Station
Vendor Matrix" http://www.abiresearch.com/research/1006364
). Registration on the ABI Research website (free) is required. Access to
the rankings and profiles of all companies
surveyed is available to clients of ABI Research.
This Vendor Matrix forms part of ABI Research's two ABI Research Services,
Mobile Networks
http://www.abiresearch.com/products/service/Wireless_Infrastructure_Research_Service
) and 4G http://www.abiresearch.com/products/service/4G_Research_Service
). For a list of all ABI Research Vendor Matrices, please visit Vendor
Matrices
http://www.abiresearch.com/products/vendor_matrix
).
ABI Research provides in-depth analysis and quantitative forecasting of
trends in global connectivity and other
emerging technologies. From offices in North America, Europe and Asia, ABI
Research's worldwide team of experts
advise thousands of decision makers through 30+ research and advisory
services. Est. 1990. For more information visit
www.abiresearch.com
, or call +1.516.624.2500.
SOURCE: ABI Research
ABI Research Christine Gallen, +1-516-624-2542 [email protected]
【在 k********n 的大作中提到】
: 往上还是往下？
k*n
36 楼
just update for information
【在 k********n 的大作中提到】
: 往上还是往下？
x*o
37 楼
死菜了，被油工看扁的股票，居然是我手上的第一大户。太可怕了
i*m
38 楼
Thanks for update. You are the man!
k*n
39 楼
关于NOK的近期操作问题，就参见此帖。。不一一回答了
k*n
40 楼
just update
【在 k********n 的大作中提到】
: 往上还是往下？
k*n
41 楼
The Nokia N9 Release Date Rumours
January 12, 2011
One mobile phone which we are eagerly looking forward to this year is Nokia
N9.
There have been plenty of rumours about its features and launch date doing
the rounds for quite some time now, and the latest one mentions the upcoming
Mobile World Congress in the middle of February in Barcelona as being the
time and place when Nokia will reveal its latest phone to the public.
After this official unveiling of the Nokia N9 it is expected to be put on
sale in Europe in April of this year.
From what he know about the new phone so far it would seem to have a big 4.2
inch screen, 768MB of RAM, a powerful 1.2 GHz processor and a hugely
enticing 12 megapixel camera. It is also expected to be a top gaming phone
with capabilities which, according to the speculation we have seen to date,
could blow away the competition.
With these specifications it is no wonder that the industry and the public
have been looking forward to this one for a long time, as it could bring
with it another big advance in mobile phone technology. There is no word yet
on the expected price but you can expect it to be fairly hefty.
It is expected that the Nokia N9 will be the standard bearer for the link up
with the Intel MeeGo operating system which will move Nokia away from
Symbian and into a position from which they can more strongly challenge the
Android and Apple operating systems.
With the CES 2011 not long finished it is now a question of sitting tight,
sifting through the new waves of rumours and waiting to see if the big
Barcelona bash is where we finally get to find out if the specs we have
quoted here are accurate. If they are then this phone is going to be huge.
Will 2011 be the year of the Nokia N9 dominance?
January 12, 2011
One mobile phone which we are eagerly looking forward to this year is Nokia
N9.
There have been plenty of rumours about its features and launch date doing
the rounds for quite some time now, and the latest one mentions the upcoming
Mobile World Congress in the middle of February in Barcelona as being the
time and place when Nokia will reveal its latest phone to the public.
After this official unveiling of the Nokia N9 it is expected to be put on
sale in Europe in April of this year.
From what he know about the new phone so far it would seem to have a big 4.2
inch screen, 768MB of RAM, a powerful 1.2 GHz processor and a hugely
enticing 12 megapixel camera. It is also expected to be a top gaming phone
with capabilities which, according to the speculation we have seen to date,
could blow away the competition.
With these specifications it is no wonder that the industry and the public
have been looking forward to this one for a long time, as it could bring
with it another big advance in mobile phone technology. There is no word yet
on the expected price but you can expect it to be fairly hefty.
It is expected that the Nokia N9 will be the standard bearer for the link up
with the Intel MeeGo operating system which will move Nokia away from
Symbian and into a position from which they can more strongly challenge the
Android and Apple operating systems.
With the CES 2011 not long finished it is now a question of sitting tight,
sifting through the new waves of rumours and waiting to see if the big
Barcelona bash is where we finally get to find out if the specs we have
quoted here are accurate. If they are then this phone is going to be huge.
Will 2011 be the year of the Nokia N9 dominance?
i*m
42 楼
Thanks! Looks very promising.
p*0
43 楼
油工，那个暴力上冲在即，“即”大约是在什么时候？最近一周吗？还是下个月？
谢谢。
因为手上资金不够，准备在上冲前卖掉其他的股票，无脑跟NOK
谢谢。
因为手上资金不够，准备在上冲前卖掉其他的股票，无脑跟NOK
k*n
44 楼
昨天晚上8点，美国时间周三凌晨发的图。
这波会跑到13区域。。当然如果大盘不拖后腿的话，比如吃了暴力泻药。。
【在 p******0 的大作中提到】
: 油工，那个暴力上冲在即，“即”大约是在什么时候？最近一周吗？还是下个月？
: 谢谢。
: 因为手上资金不够，准备在上冲前卖掉其他的股票，无脑跟NOK
p*0
45 楼
啊？？？那怎么办？还来得及吗？我是不是要明天一大早起来先卖其他股再买NOK？？？
【在 k********n 的大作中提到】
:
: 昨天晚上8点，美国时间周三凌晨发的图。
: 这波会跑到13区域。。当然如果大盘不拖后腿的话，比如吃了暴力泻药。。
【在 k********n 的大作中提到】
:
: 昨天晚上8点，美国时间周三凌晨发的图。
: 这波会跑到13区域。。当然如果大盘不拖后腿的话，比如吃了暴力泻药。。
k*n
46 楼
我只对最初无脑跟的童鞋负责阿，不要随便换股。
k*n
47 楼
斑竹，请帮我置顶，省的童鞋老问我。。。
b*u
48 楼
油工威武啊！！！
大牛觉得大盘在未来几天会不会来个飞流直下三千尺？
大牛觉得大盘在未来几天会不会来个飞流直下三千尺？
k*n
49 楼
我从来不鸟大盘。。。
D*9
50 楼
无脑跟油工
p*0
51 楼
今天是暴冲在即了吗
k*n
52 楼
不是已经冲出来了吗？三个均线不是在金叉吗？
白送钱都不要？
白送钱都不要？
z*r
53 楼
正式拜师了， 师傅以后有什么消息早通知啊！
【在 k********n 的大作中提到】
: 不是已经冲出来了吗？三个均线不是在金叉吗？
: 白送钱都不要？
【在 k********n 的大作中提到】
: 不是已经冲出来了吗？三个均线不是在金叉吗？
: 白送钱都不要？
p*0
54 楼
师傅，10.93买的，会不会太高？
k*n
55 楼
正常回抽试探2道均线支撑10.2,为何要panic哈，
油工早就贴图了，短期操作图。长线就是拿着吃红利。
昨天已经售后服务10.21是两道支撑线回测！
9.75-10是另一次大力买入点。
【在 k********n 的大作中提到】
: 往上还是往下？
a*n
56 楼
CSCO怎么搞？要不要加仓或者割肉？
【在 k********n 的大作中提到】
:
: 正常回抽试探2道均线支撑10.2,为何要panic哈，
: 油工早就贴图了，短期操作图。长线就是拿着吃红利。
: 昨天已经售后服务10.21是两道支撑线回测！
: 9.75-10是另一次大力买入点。
【在 k********n 的大作中提到】
:
: 正常回抽试探2道均线支撑10.2,为何要panic哈，
: 油工早就贴图了，短期操作图。长线就是拿着吃红利。
: 昨天已经售后服务10.21是两道支撑线回测！
: 9.75-10是另一次大力买入点。
k*n
57 楼
这两个匹克到现在还是有利润的，虽然很少。不存在割肉吧。
我觉得割肉没必要。如果你没上马金。
我觉得割肉没必要。如果你没上马金。
a*n
58 楼
我是想问需要减仓吗？
【在 k********n 的大作中提到】
: 这两个匹克到现在还是有利润的，虽然很少。不存在割肉吧。
: 我觉得割肉没必要。如果你没上马金。
【在 k********n 的大作中提到】
: 这两个匹克到现在还是有利润的，虽然很少。不存在割肉吧。
: 我觉得割肉没必要。如果你没上马金。
w*s
59 楼
如果是长期股票，应该可以分仓建，然后见到pullback就特高兴。
【在 k********n 的大作中提到】
: 这两个匹克到现在还是有利润的，虽然很少。不存在割肉吧。
: 我觉得割肉没必要。如果你没上马金。
【在 k********n 的大作中提到】
: 这两个匹克到现在还是有利润的，虽然很少。不存在割肉吧。
: 我觉得割肉没必要。如果你没上马金。
k*n
60 楼
我等着把仓位买回来。暂时定在9.76
应该可以买到
【在 w******s 的大作中提到】
: 如果是长期股票，应该可以分仓建，然后见到pullback就特高兴。
u*r
61 楼
MASTER,
大牛 Normally hire people (normally female) to 搞下面
from 上 or 下 does not Matter as long as 大牛 enjoy.
【在 k********n 的大作中提到】
: 往上还是往下？
大牛 Normally hire people (normally female) to 搞下面
from 上 or 下 does not Matter as long as 大牛 enjoy.
【在 k********n 的大作中提到】
: 往上还是往下？
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