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By the time Phyllis Bishop won the right to trim and clear her neighbors'
trees and regain the panoramic bay view from her Oakland hills home, 25
years had passed, her husband Lloyd had died, and she was living in a
retirement home.
Bishop, 95, sighed with relief at the victory of an epic legal and political
battle with her neighbors that went all the way to the state Supreme Court.
Yet, once the neighbors' trees were cleared this year, Bishop noticed that
city trees blocked the view from her property, violating a city ordinance.
It didn't matter that she no longer lived in her home, which she is now
renting. She began negotiating for the clearing of the city trees - the cost
of which she would pay - out of a sense of justice and on grounds that it
affects the property's value. The city agreed, but one set of neighbors
objected.
"Guess who?" Bishop said.
That would be Okhoo and Ernest Hanes, the neighbors who lost their fight
with her to keep their trees.
They - like Bishop - no longer live in their Oakland hills home but rent it
out. They now live in Napa.
The Bishops and the Haneses once lived near each other in the hills, tied
only by a property line until the decades-long feud intertwined them.
Tuesday, they'll go before the City Council for what Bishop hopes will be
the last fight. Okhoo Hanes is unsure the end of the battle is near, even
though she and her husband, both 55, have lost more than $200,000 in legal
fees and many trees they cherished.
Asked whether she would sue or take another tack if the city agrees to
remove the trees, Okhoo Hanes said, "I don't know."
The trees in question are mostly acacias, though the city says Bishop should
also be allowed to trim some branches from five large Monterey cypresses
and Monterey pines.
A home with a view
Phyllis and Lloyd Bishop moved into their home in 1964. They could see
Alcatraz, the Golden Gate Bridge and Treasure Island.
"To own a part of this beautiful part of the world was a privilege," said
Phyllis, who was born in Oakland and who, like her husband, was an Oakland
schoolteacher. "We'd traveled. We knew this was special."
Wary that developers would build up the property below them, she said they
successfully sought an easement ensuring nothing would be built to block
their view before they bought the house. But it only referred to buildings.
"It didn't refer to vegetation," she said ruefully. "We didn't anticipate
that."
For 23 years, the Bishops asked their neighbors if they could pay for the
tree trimming. The neighbors always said yes, said Phyllis.
Then, in 1984, the Haneses moved in. Three years later, the Bishops saw that
it was time for a trimming. Six previous owners of the Hanes home had
always agreed. The Haneses didn't.
"It had no effect on the people who owned the property, but it maintained
the view," she said.
The Bishops say they tried to talk to the Haneses. They asked their city
councilman to intervene. They suggested a mediator. They offered to buy land
covered by the foliage.
"They wouldn't talk about it at all," Bishop said. "Finally, we sued them."
The Bishops used Oakland's View Ordinance as their justification. The
ordinance allows property owners to restore "a reasonable amount of the view
that they had when they purchased their property, whether the trees are
growing on public or private property," according to a city report. Native
trees and trees on park property are exempt.
After the city reworked its ordinance, the courts ultimately upheld the
Bishops' contention that they had the right to trim the trees.
Councilwoman Libby Schaaf grew up within a mile of the disputed trees and
now represents the area.
"It's one of the things that's amazing about Oakland: We have bay views
while still living in the forest," she said. "But trees do grow taller. ...
It's tragic that this neighborhood dispute has gone on so long and taken up
public resources."
Seeking sanctuary
The Haneses, too, believe in the righteousness of their cause. Where the
Bishops saw expansiveness in the treeless view, the Haneses found the
sanctuary that comes with living among trees.
The trees "gave a sense of seclusion," said Okhoo Hanes. Despite the urban
setting, she said the trees meant "we had a feeling of living in a hideaway."
After the state Supreme Court denied their appeal last October - two days
after Lloyd Bishop died at age 89 - the Haneses were forced to clear their
trees.
"After the tree removal, we lost a sense of enclosure," she said.
In the current appeal, the Haneses say that landslides are a risk. An
engineer disagrees. In addition, city staffers note, the Fire Department had
"excessive vegetation" in the area removed in 2009, and no landslides
occurred.
Both sides see slights
Both sides have an accounting of slights. Phyllis Bishop remembers welcoming
the Haneses to the neighborhood, she said, only to have Okhoo respond
rudely. Okhoo Hanes said it still stings to think of how the Bishops, she
says, said that land with just wild trees and shrubs had no value.
"That's an example of the attitude they showed toward us," Okhoo Hanes said.
"They didn't value our ownership even though they were adamant in asserting
their property rights."
Both families talk of the children raised in their homes. Bishop hopes that
one of her two adult children will eventually live in the property.
"I've done about all I can do," Bishop said. "I'm going to try to outlive
them. I don't know if I will or not. Would you care to place a bet?"
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Fight-over-Oakland-trees-views-not-over-3872894.php#ixzz26s05MrRT
trees and regain the panoramic bay view from her Oakland hills home, 25
years had passed, her husband Lloyd had died, and she was living in a
retirement home.
Bishop, 95, sighed with relief at the victory of an epic legal and political
battle with her neighbors that went all the way to the state Supreme Court.
Yet, once the neighbors' trees were cleared this year, Bishop noticed that
city trees blocked the view from her property, violating a city ordinance.
It didn't matter that she no longer lived in her home, which she is now
renting. She began negotiating for the clearing of the city trees - the cost
of which she would pay - out of a sense of justice and on grounds that it
affects the property's value. The city agreed, but one set of neighbors
objected.
"Guess who?" Bishop said.
That would be Okhoo and Ernest Hanes, the neighbors who lost their fight
with her to keep their trees.
They - like Bishop - no longer live in their Oakland hills home but rent it
out. They now live in Napa.
The Bishops and the Haneses once lived near each other in the hills, tied
only by a property line until the decades-long feud intertwined them.
Tuesday, they'll go before the City Council for what Bishop hopes will be
the last fight. Okhoo Hanes is unsure the end of the battle is near, even
though she and her husband, both 55, have lost more than $200,000 in legal
fees and many trees they cherished.
Asked whether she would sue or take another tack if the city agrees to
remove the trees, Okhoo Hanes said, "I don't know."
The trees in question are mostly acacias, though the city says Bishop should
also be allowed to trim some branches from five large Monterey cypresses
and Monterey pines.
A home with a view
Phyllis and Lloyd Bishop moved into their home in 1964. They could see
Alcatraz, the Golden Gate Bridge and Treasure Island.
"To own a part of this beautiful part of the world was a privilege," said
Phyllis, who was born in Oakland and who, like her husband, was an Oakland
schoolteacher. "We'd traveled. We knew this was special."
Wary that developers would build up the property below them, she said they
successfully sought an easement ensuring nothing would be built to block
their view before they bought the house. But it only referred to buildings.
"It didn't refer to vegetation," she said ruefully. "We didn't anticipate
that."
For 23 years, the Bishops asked their neighbors if they could pay for the
tree trimming. The neighbors always said yes, said Phyllis.
Then, in 1984, the Haneses moved in. Three years later, the Bishops saw that
it was time for a trimming. Six previous owners of the Hanes home had
always agreed. The Haneses didn't.
"It had no effect on the people who owned the property, but it maintained
the view," she said.
The Bishops say they tried to talk to the Haneses. They asked their city
councilman to intervene. They suggested a mediator. They offered to buy land
covered by the foliage.
"They wouldn't talk about it at all," Bishop said. "Finally, we sued them."
The Bishops used Oakland's View Ordinance as their justification. The
ordinance allows property owners to restore "a reasonable amount of the view
that they had when they purchased their property, whether the trees are
growing on public or private property," according to a city report. Native
trees and trees on park property are exempt.
After the city reworked its ordinance, the courts ultimately upheld the
Bishops' contention that they had the right to trim the trees.
Councilwoman Libby Schaaf grew up within a mile of the disputed trees and
now represents the area.
"It's one of the things that's amazing about Oakland: We have bay views
while still living in the forest," she said. "But trees do grow taller. ...
It's tragic that this neighborhood dispute has gone on so long and taken up
public resources."
Seeking sanctuary
The Haneses, too, believe in the righteousness of their cause. Where the
Bishops saw expansiveness in the treeless view, the Haneses found the
sanctuary that comes with living among trees.
The trees "gave a sense of seclusion," said Okhoo Hanes. Despite the urban
setting, she said the trees meant "we had a feeling of living in a hideaway."
After the state Supreme Court denied their appeal last October - two days
after Lloyd Bishop died at age 89 - the Haneses were forced to clear their
trees.
"After the tree removal, we lost a sense of enclosure," she said.
In the current appeal, the Haneses say that landslides are a risk. An
engineer disagrees. In addition, city staffers note, the Fire Department had
"excessive vegetation" in the area removed in 2009, and no landslides
occurred.
Both sides see slights
Both sides have an accounting of slights. Phyllis Bishop remembers welcoming
the Haneses to the neighborhood, she said, only to have Okhoo respond
rudely. Okhoo Hanes said it still stings to think of how the Bishops, she
says, said that land with just wild trees and shrubs had no value.
"That's an example of the attitude they showed toward us," Okhoo Hanes said.
"They didn't value our ownership even though they were adamant in asserting
their property rights."
Both families talk of the children raised in their homes. Bishop hopes that
one of her two adult children will eventually live in the property.
"I've done about all I can do," Bishop said. "I'm going to try to outlive
them. I don't know if I will or not. Would you care to place a bet?"
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Fight-over-Oakland-trees-views-not-over-3872894.php#ixzz26s05MrRT