b*3
2 楼
有老大太牛了。我的普特归零了。
b*e
10 楼
真能瞎折腾,100 goog put + 1 Mar 715 call 不如 只买 1 Mar 715 call, 最多损
失 2k. 现在 100 goog put 损失 超过4K了。
失 2k. 现在 100 goog put 损失 超过4K了。
D*e
12 楼
Option loss is loss
Stock loss is not loss
Stock loss is not loss
D*e
13 楼
CMg came back right?
I*e
15 楼
He may not have heard about the Put-Call parity.
Selling short 100 shares of GOOG, then at the same time buy one call, is
identical (in payoff at expiration of the call, and because of the one-price
theorem, should be identical in price) to buying a put option at the same
strike. Shorting then buy OTM call to hedge risk has two shortcomings with
no apparent benefit:
1. It requires much more margin than just buying a put.
2. It needs extra commission. You pay for the stock trade as well as the
options trade.
So, essentially he bought a put on GOOG at strike price of 715, when GOOG
was around 704. That put should be about 33 in price. It is easy to see that
's not a good trade as GOOG went from 704 to nearly 750, nearly rendering
his put worthless. That's a near 80% drop on that put. (from 33 -> 7.50, or
$2500 loss for each unit of his trade.)
On the other hand, he did get entertainment value out of the trade. Also he'
s rich, so can do this often and not feeling much pain. :)
【在 c*********o 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: i DON'T THINK YOU MAKE ANY MONEY ON GOOG FOR NOW. AS ICARE SAID...LOL
: BUT IF YOU KEEP PLAYING, YOU MIGHT BE..
Selling short 100 shares of GOOG, then at the same time buy one call, is
identical (in payoff at expiration of the call, and because of the one-price
theorem, should be identical in price) to buying a put option at the same
strike. Shorting then buy OTM call to hedge risk has two shortcomings with
no apparent benefit:
1. It requires much more margin than just buying a put.
2. It needs extra commission. You pay for the stock trade as well as the
options trade.
So, essentially he bought a put on GOOG at strike price of 715, when GOOG
was around 704. That put should be about 33 in price. It is easy to see that
's not a good trade as GOOG went from 704 to nearly 750, nearly rendering
his put worthless. That's a near 80% drop on that put. (from 33 -> 7.50, or
$2500 loss for each unit of his trade.)
On the other hand, he did get entertainment value out of the trade. Also he'
s rich, so can do this often and not feeling much pain. :)
【在 c*********o 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: i DON'T THINK YOU MAKE ANY MONEY ON GOOG FOR NOW. AS ICARE SAID...LOL
: BUT IF YOU KEEP PLAYING, YOU MIGHT BE..
b*e
16 楼
Then do not play into ER. Risk Vs Award is always there for stock and option
. holding stock and holding stock put is totally differnt risk. short
squeeze is not fun at all.There is not right and wrong for this topic.
. holding stock and holding stock put is totally differnt risk. short
squeeze is not fun at all.There is not right and wrong for this topic.
c*o
17 楼
ORZ PROFESSIONAL ANALYSIS...LOL
I KNOW HE LOST A LOT ON HIS SHORT POSITION, HIS CALL DOUBLED COULD NOT EVEN
COVER THE LOSS FOR SURE. BUT YOUR EXPLANATION MADE IT SO SIMPLE..
ORZ again..
AS LONG AS YOUGONG CAN KEEP PLAYING IT THIS WAY, IT WOULD BECOME HIS MONTHLY
INCOME.
WHICH MAY EVENTUALLY MAKE HIM EVEN. WHO KNOWS? AS LONG AS HE HAS MONEY TO
PLAY THE GAME AS YOU SAID...LOL
price
【在 I***e 的大作中提到】![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: He may not have heard about the Put-Call parity.
: Selling short 100 shares of GOOG, then at the same time buy one call, is
: identical (in payoff at expiration of the call, and because of the one-price
: theorem, should be identical in price) to buying a put option at the same
: strike. Shorting then buy OTM call to hedge risk has two shortcomings with
: no apparent benefit:
: 1. It requires much more margin than just buying a put.
: 2. It needs extra commission. You pay for the stock trade as well as the
: options trade.
: So, essentially he bought a put on GOOG at strike price of 715, when GOOG
I KNOW HE LOST A LOT ON HIS SHORT POSITION, HIS CALL DOUBLED COULD NOT EVEN
COVER THE LOSS FOR SURE. BUT YOUR EXPLANATION MADE IT SO SIMPLE..
ORZ again..
AS LONG AS YOUGONG CAN KEEP PLAYING IT THIS WAY, IT WOULD BECOME HIS MONTHLY
INCOME.
WHICH MAY EVENTUALLY MAKE HIM EVEN. WHO KNOWS? AS LONG AS HE HAS MONEY TO
PLAY THE GAME AS YOU SAID...LOL
price
【在 I***e 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: He may not have heard about the Put-Call parity.
: Selling short 100 shares of GOOG, then at the same time buy one call, is
: identical (in payoff at expiration of the call, and because of the one-price
: theorem, should be identical in price) to buying a put option at the same
: strike. Shorting then buy OTM call to hedge risk has two shortcomings with
: no apparent benefit:
: 1. It requires much more margin than just buying a put.
: 2. It needs extra commission. You pay for the stock trade as well as the
: options trade.
: So, essentially he bought a put on GOOG at strike price of 715, when GOOG
b*e
22 楼
It will come back for sure (every stock does that). but how soon? one day,
one week.one month. This is like the same as you buy stock and hold and wish
to go up. Not for ER play. shot and run
one week.one month. This is like the same as you buy stock and hold and wish
to go up. Not for ER play. shot and run
b*e
24 楼
if you this sure, you should add more put to average your position.This is
not sure thing in the market.wish is more appropriate.
not sure thing in the market.wish is more appropriate.
b*e
26 楼
I am with you on this averge down play.be careful of next couple days. the
short squeeze may push the stock higher for couple days. typically on the
fouth day then pull the trigger after big jump and big down day. the
following up may last for three days
short squeeze may push the stock higher for couple days. typically on the
fouth day then pull the trigger after big jump and big down day. the
following up may last for three days
D*e
27 楼
nice nice nice call..
Goog is ATM for sure this time.
Most of people here know shit about it.
【在 b**e 的大作中提到】
![](/moin_static193/solenoid/img/up.png)
: I am with you on this averge down play.be careful of next couple days. the
: short squeeze may push the stock higher for couple days. typically on the
: fouth day then pull the trigger after big jump and big down day. the
: following up may last for three days
R*r
28 楼
这把可能到800了。
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