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Re: Gold is bottomed! (转载)

Re: Gold is bottomed! (转载)# Stock

D*t2013-07-08 07:07

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【以下文字转载自 Taoisland 俱乐部】
发信人: DADofBuffet (老宋), 信区: Taoisland
标题: Re: Gold is bottomed!
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Jul 8 15:20:41 2013, 美东)
Play Pure Gold, not the gold company!!!
Play the company will be stupid!!!!
Gold is bottomed, not the company.

b*p2013-07-08 07:07

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then how to play PURE GOLD? Thanks!

【在 D*********t 的大作中提到】

: 【以下文字转载自 Taoisland 俱乐部】
: 发信人: DADofBuffet (老宋), 信区: Taoisland
: 标题: Re: Gold is bottomed!
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Jul 8 15:20:41 2013, 美东)
: Play Pure Gold, not the gold company!!!
: Play the company will be stupid!!!!
: Gold is bottomed, not the company.

D*t2013-07-08 07:07

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DGP

【在 b*****p 的大作中提到】

: then how to play PURE GOLD? Thanks!

b*p2013-07-08 07:07

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thank you! 老李！
寄信人: deliver (自动发信系统)
标题: 本站转帐通知单
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Jul 08 15:30:35 2013)
来源: mitbbs.com
bullpop，您好：
您转给 DADofBuffet,现金(伪币):20,收取手续费:0.2
同时附加了如下留言给 DADofBuffet.
thanks for the answer!
站务

【在 D*********t 的大作中提到】

: DGP

j*i2013-07-08 07:07

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老宋的身家玩成交量这么小的东西？

【在 D*********t 的大作中提到】

: DGP

D*t2013-07-08 07:07

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THIS IS A STUPID QUESTION!
DGP is a future based ETF, volume is nothing...

【在 j*******i 的大作中提到】

: 老宋的身家玩成交量这么小的东西？

j*i2013-07-08 07:07

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我的天 volume is nothing!!!!
你想进，想出没有volume怎么进出？自己做股价玩？

【在 D*********t 的大作中提到】

: THIS IS A STUPID QUESTION!
: DGP is a future based ETF, volume is nothing...

D*t2013-07-08 07:07

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Naive...

【在 j*******i 的大作中提到】

: 我的天 volume is nothing!!!!
: 你想进，想出没有volume怎么进出？自己做股价玩？

j*i2013-07-08 07:07

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你说我naive没关系
我就想知道老宋现在要买1000股DGP 你怎么挂单？把股价抬高多少？
将来你要卖出会把DGP砸下来百分之几？

【在 D*********t 的大作中提到】

: Naive...

D*t2013-07-08 07:07

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sigh...
No matter how big your volume, you cannot increase/decrease the ETF price!!
the price is on GOLD future, not on the trading...
understand???
Unless you go the bank to buy the real goods (future), then the gold price
can be changed by your volume...

【在 j*******i 的大作中提到】

: 你说我naive没关系
: 我就想知道老宋现在要买1000股DGP 你怎么挂单？把股价抬高多少？
: 将来你要卖出会把DGP砸下来百分之几？

j*i2013-07-08 07:07

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这就是我一直不明白ETF的地方
虽然理论上说我是不能改变DGP的价格是，可是实际上我是能改变的
只要我有钱，我愿意把他的交易价格打高，我当然可以抬高了，为什么不能？他的交易
方式和股票一样呀

【在 D*********t 的大作中提到】

: sigh...
: No matter how big your volume, you cannot increase/decrease the ETF price!!
: the price is on GOLD future, not on the trading...
: understand???
: Unless you go the bank to buy the real goods (future), then the gold price
: can be changed by your volume...

D*t2013-07-08 07:07

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read more about ETF, please!
there are so many ETFs, they are not the same. for an exaple, what is an ETN?

【在 j*******i 的大作中提到】

: 这就是我一直不明白ETF的地方
: 虽然理论上说我是不能改变DGP的价格是，可是实际上我是能改变的
: 只要我有钱，我愿意把他的交易价格打高，我当然可以抬高了，为什么不能？他的交易
: 方式和股票一样呀

h*e2013-07-08 07:07

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老李，给我20个包子。。。

j*i2013-07-08 07:07

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我早就读过了别说别的就说DGP
理论上他是和金子挂钩的，但是还是公开交易的，公开交易的我就是可以影响他的股价呀

ETN?

【在 D*********t 的大作中提到】

: read more about ETF, please!
: there are so many ETFs, they are not the same. for an exaple, what is an ETN?

D*t2013-07-08 07:07

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I will not argue with you unless you read more...

价呀

【在 j*******i 的大作中提到】

: 我早就读过了别说别的就说DGP
: 理论上他是和金子挂钩的，但是还是公开交易的，公开交易的我就是可以影响他的股价呀
:
: ETN?

t*92013-07-08 07:07

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老宋牛逼!

【在 D*********t 的大作中提到】

: I will not argue with you unless you read more...
:
: 价呀

b*p2013-07-08 07:07

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老李牛大牛，could you give us frogs a link to study?
thanks!

【在 D*********t 的大作中提到】

: I will not argue with you unless you read more...
:
: 价呀

D*t2013-07-08 07:07

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Definition of 'Exchange Traded Notes - ETN'
A type of unsecured, unsubordinated debt security that was first issued by
Barclays Bank PLC. This type of debt security differs from other types of
bonds and notes because ETN returns are based upon the performance of a
market index minus applicable fees, no period coupon payments are
distributed and no principal protections exists.
Investopedia Says
Investopedia explains 'Exchange Traded Notes - ETN'
The purpose of ETNs is to create a type of security that combines both the
aspects of bonds and exchange traded funds (ETF). Similar to ETFs, ETNs are
traded on a major exchange, such as the NYSE during normal trading hours.
However, investors can also hold the debt security until maturity. At that
time the issuer will give the investor a cash amount that would be equal to
principal amount (subject to the day's index factor).
One factor that affects the ETN's value is the credit rating of the issuer.
The value of the ETN may drop despite no change in the underlying index,
instead due to a downgrade in the issuer's credit rating.

【在 b*****p 的大作中提到】

: 老李牛大牛，could you give us frogs a link to study?
: thanks!

j*i2013-07-08 07:07

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An ETN’s closing indicative value, as well as its intraday indicative value
, are distinct from an ETN’s market price, which is the price at which an
ETN trades in the secondary market. In theory, an ETN’s market price should
closely track its closing and intraday indicative values. However, an ETN’
s market price can deviate, sometimes significantly, from its indicative
value.
我不知道你让我读什么，因为你想让我读的我都读过了，我只好找一段洋人写的文字
我说就是market price，我当然可以操控，有什么不对吗？

【在 D*********t 的大作中提到】

: I will not argue with you unless you read more...
:
: 价呀

D*t2013-07-08 07:07

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did you buy?

【在 D*********t 的大作中提到】

:
: Definition of 'Exchange Traded Notes - ETN'
: A type of unsecured, unsubordinated debt security that was first issued by
: Barclays Bank PLC. This type of debt security differs from other types of
: bonds and notes because ETN returns are based upon the performance of a
: market index minus applicable fees, no period coupon payments are
: distributed and no principal protections exists.
: Investopedia Says
: Investopedia explains 'Exchange Traded Notes - ETN'
: The purpose of ETNs is to create a type of security that combines both the

b*p2013-07-08 07:07

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bot G*[email protected] on 07/01/2013
刚刚出水。
paper trade.... LOL

【在 D*********t 的大作中提到】

: did you buy?

j*i2013-07-08 07:07

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Did you answer?
An ETN’s closing indicative value, as well as its intraday indicative value
, are distinct from an ETN’s market price, which is the price at which an
ETN trades in the secondary market. In theory, an ETN’s market price should
closely track its closing and intraday indicative values. However, an ETN’
s market price can deviate, sometimes significantly, from its indicative
value.
我不知道你让我读什么，因为你想让我读的我都读过了，我只好找一段洋人写的文字
我说就是market price，我当然可以操控，有什么不对吗？

【在 D*********t 的大作中提到】

: did you buy?

D*t2013-07-08 07:07

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ignored...

value
should

【在 j*******i 的大作中提到】

: Did you answer?
: An ETN’s closing indicative value, as well as its intraday indicative value
: , are distinct from an ETN’s market price, which is the price at which an
: ETN trades in the secondary market. In theory, an ETN’s market price should
: closely track its closing and intraday indicative values. However, an ETN’
: s market price can deviate, sometimes significantly, from its indicative
: value.
: 我不知道你让我读什么，因为你想让我读的我都读过了，我只好找一段洋人写的文字
: 我说就是market price，我当然可以操控，有什么不对吗？

b*p2013-07-08 07:07

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so 老李大牛，这个DGP的定价是和gold直接挂钩的？
谢谢！

【在 D*********t 的大作中提到】

: ignored...
:
: value
: should

D*t2013-07-08 07:07

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right! but will have some ETF cost

【在 b*****p 的大作中提到】

: so 老李大牛，这个DGP的定价是和gold直接挂钩的？
: 谢谢！

j*i2013-07-08 07:07

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no
牛中牛别被误导了
indicative value是挂钩的
但是market price是可以随便搞的，当然了90%的情况下是和indicative value一直的

【在 D*********t 的大作中提到】

: right! but will have some ETF cost

j*i2013-07-08 07:07

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也就是我提到的成交量的问题，他的成交量太小了，你几千股进出都能控制他的market
price

【在 j*******i 的大作中提到】

: no
: 牛中牛别被误导了
: indicative value是挂钩的
: 但是market price是可以随便搞的，当然了90%的情况下是和indicative value一直的

b*p2013-07-08 07:07

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谢谢jeff大牛！

t*32013-07-08 07:07

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你要真敢用这个可能性来控制价格，必然被别人吃的死死的。
例如你敢人为拔高或者压低，别人就和你做个对手盘，同时去它依赖的标的物那里做一
个对冲，这样别人总是处于赢家地位。你总是输家。

market

【在 j*******i 的大作中提到】

: 也就是我提到的成交量的问题，他的成交量太小了，你几千股进出都能控制他的market
: price

j*i2013-07-08 07:07

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你理解错了你把前面帖子看完再评论会比较恰当
我市举例说明成交量太小了，你大资金进出就能影响股价

【在 t*********3 的大作中提到】

: 你要真敢用这个可能性来控制价格，必然被别人吃的死死的。
: 例如你敢人为拔高或者压低，别人就和你做个对手盘，同时去它依赖的标的物那里做一
: 个对冲，这样别人总是处于赢家地位。你总是输家。
:
: market

t*32013-07-08 07:07

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你有点纸上谈兵，用自己的钱去试试就好了。

【在 j*******i 的大作中提到】

: 你理解错了你把前面帖子看完再评论会比较恰当
: 我市举例说明成交量太小了，你大资金进出就能影响股价

j*i2013-07-08 07:07

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本来就是纸上谈兵赫赫

【在 t*********3 的大作中提到】

: 你有点纸上谈兵，用自己的钱去试试就好了。

j*i2013-07-08 07:07

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老宋牛逼！！！金子价格直奔1300呀

【在 D*********t 的大作中提到】

: right! but will have some ETF cost

D*t2013-07-08 07:07

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young frog!

value
should

【在 j*******i 的大作中提到】

: An ETN’s closing indicative value, as well as its intraday indicative value
: , are distinct from an ETN’s market price, which is the price at which an
: ETN trades in the secondary market. In theory, an ETN’s market price should
: closely track its closing and intraday indicative values. However, an ETN’
: s market price can deviate, sometimes significantly, from its indicative
: value.
: 我不知道你让我读什么，因为你想让我读的我都读过了，我只好找一段洋人写的文字
: 我说就是market price，我当然可以操控，有什么不对吗？