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m*i2015-01-21 08:01

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A hedge fund manager told clients he is "truly sorry" for losing virtually
all their money.
Owen Li, the founder of Canarsie Capital in New York, said Tuesday he had
lost all but $200,000 of the firm's capital—down from the roughly $100
million it ran as of late March.

O*p2015-01-21 08:01

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是不是all in NQ期权了？

q*x2015-01-21 08:01

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related to francs black swan? any reason mentioned? would be nice to have a
link to the source. thanks.

【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】

: A hedge fund manager told clients he is "truly sorry" for losing virtually
: all their money.
: Owen Li, the founder of Canarsie Capital in New York, said Tuesday he had
: lost all but $200,000 of the firm's capital—down from the roughly $100
: million it ran as of late March.

O*p2015-01-21 08:01

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Li said in the letter that he made a series of "aggressive transactions"
over the last three weeks to make up for poor returns in December. He said
he bet on stock price options, predicated on the broader market rising. But
stock indexes fell, causing the huge losses along with several undisclosed
direct investments, according to the note.
我猜是一月SPY回调的时候，赌了回210.

P*02015-01-21 08:01

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要坐牢了

【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】

: A hedge fund manager told clients he is "truly sorry" for losing virtually
: all their money.
: Owen Li, the founder of Canarsie Capital in New York, said Tuesday he had
: lost all but $200,000 of the firm's capital—down from the roughly $100
: million it ran as of late March.

k*n2015-01-21 08:01

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看来这帮所谓的专业户很多其实是草包

r*s2015-01-21 08:01

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这些逼炒股水平可能还不如油工呢.

【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】

: A hedge fund manager told clients he is "truly sorry" for losing virtually
: all their money.
: Owen Li, the founder of Canarsie Capital in New York, said Tuesday he had
: lost all but $200,000 of the firm's capital—down from the roughly $100
: million it ran as of late March.

s*m2015-01-21 08:01

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投钱给他的都是什么人呀？
很好奇~

【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】

: A hedge fund manager told clients he is "truly sorry" for losing virtually
: all their money.
: Owen Li, the founder of Canarsie Capital in New York, said Tuesday he had
: lost all but $200,000 of the firm's capital—down from the roughly $100
: million it ran as of late March.

k*n2015-01-21 08:01

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我也是草包
其实他们也有苦衷，就是必须完成任务。
我们亏废了大不了死捂。哈哈

【在 r*****s 的大作中提到】

: 这些逼炒股水平可能还不如油工呢.

w*k2015-01-21 08:01

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所谓专业的问题就是包赚不赔。经理人赚了一大票，自然要给自己奖励；赔了呢，最好
情况是那就算了，更坏的情况甚至还是得要年终奖金，管理费自然不在话下了。

【在 k********n 的大作中提到】

: 看来这帮所谓的专业户很多其实是草包

I*a2015-01-21 08:01

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真有点巧合啊。

l*a2015-01-21 08:01

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也可能是牛刀。刚才看到牛刀皈依上帝的荣光了，不会是忏悔吧？

【在 I***a 的大作中提到】

: 真有点巧合啊。

m*o2015-01-21 08:01

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拿别人的钱不当钱呀

d*12015-01-21 08:01

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名菜师傅也来了

【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】

: A hedge fund manager told clients he is "truly sorry" for losing virtually
: all their money.
: Owen Li, the founder of Canarsie Capital in New York, said Tuesday he had
: lost all but $200,000 of the firm's capital—down from the roughly $100
: million it ran as of late March.

h*72015-01-21 08:01

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大师对石油怎么看
USO

【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】

: A hedge fund manager told clients he is "truly sorry" for losing virtually
: all their money.
: Owen Li, the founder of Canarsie Capital in New York, said Tuesday he had
: lost all but $200,000 of the firm's capital—down from the roughly $100
: million it ran as of late March.

B*S2015-01-21 08:01

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是不是卖了一月份VIX的option?

[发表自未名空间手机版 - m.mitbbs.com]

【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】

: A hedge fund manager told clients he is "truly sorry" for losing virtually
: all their money.
: Owen Li, the founder of Canarsie Capital in New York, said Tuesday he had
: lost all but $200,000 of the firm's capital—down from the roughly $100
: million it ran as of late March.

h*t2015-01-21 08:01

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杯具。

T*R2015-01-21 08:01

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这些人，年纪青青的时候在狗剩这样的大投行做，以为自己真是个人物。其实离开了靠
山，离开了内幕消息，什么都不是。

a*n2015-01-21 08:01

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大家都忽略了这么一段简历：
Li is a former trader at Raj Rajaratnam's Galleon Group, which collapsed
amid insider trading charges. Rajaratnam is now in prison for the illegal
activity, but Li was never accused of wrongdoing.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102356275#.

i*s2015-01-21 08:01

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还好，至少没欠债。

【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】

: A hedge fund manager told clients he is "truly sorry" for losing virtually
: all their money.
: Owen Li, the founder of Canarsie Capital in New York, said Tuesday he had
: lost all but $200,000 of the firm's capital—down from the roughly $100
: million it ran as of late March.

q*x2015-01-21 08:01

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Thanks
[在 OpAmp (windy) 的大作中提到：]
：Li said in the letter that he made a series of "aggressive
transactions"
：over the last three weeks to make up for poor returns in December. He said
：...........

H*s2015-01-21 08:01

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没职业道德。
别人的钱，先hedge上，赚少点但能赚长点。

【在 w**k 的大作中提到】

: 所谓专业的问题就是包赚不赔。经理人赚了一大票，自然要给自己奖励；赔了呢，最好
: 情况是那就算了，更坏的情况甚至还是得要年终奖金，管理费自然不在话下了。

d*r2015-01-21 08:01

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http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Stock/35986673.html
当然没有忽略，而且老早就注意到了。

【在 a**********n 的大作中提到】

: 大家都忽略了这么一段简历：
: Li is a former trader at Raj Rajaratnam's Galleon Group, which collapsed
: amid insider trading charges. Rajaratnam is now in prison for the illegal
: activity, but Li was never accused of wrongdoing.
: http://www.cnbc.com/id/102356275#.

a*n2015-01-21 08:01

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牛。我白天没来股板，错过了你的帖子了。

【在 d**********r 的大作中提到】

: http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Stock/35986673.html
: 当然没有忽略，而且老早就注意到了。

g*02015-01-21 08:01

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hedge fund基本都是骗局。跟赌博差不多，只不过拿客户的钱赌。赌赢了，基金经
理抽成，赌输了拍拍屁股走路。无本万利

a*n2015-01-21 08:01

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那也未必，　这个由　１６８　出来的几位大牛主持的hedge fund, 大约是2010（？）
年成立的。　到了2013 年底，　还是赚钱的。。
http://www.globalfunddata.com/funds/new/performance/country/hed

【在 g*****0 的大作中提到】

: hedge fund基本都是骗局。跟赌博差不多，只不过拿客户的钱赌。赌赢了，基金经
: 理抽成，赌输了拍拍屁股走路。无本万利

a*g2015-01-21 08:01

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哦。还好吧。

【在 m*****i 的大作中提到】

: A hedge fund manager told clients he is "truly sorry" for losing virtually
: all their money.
: Owen Li, the founder of Canarsie Capital in New York, said Tuesday he had
: lost all but $200,000 of the firm's capital—down from the roughly $100
: million it ran as of late March.

w*k2015-01-21 08:01

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你给出的证据并不能否定gen2010的观点。赚钱的方得并不一定就不是拿客户的钱来赌
，只不过赌赢了而已。

【在 a**********n 的大作中提到】

:
: 那也未必，　这个由　１６８　出来的几位大牛主持的hedge fund, 大约是2010（？）
: 年成立的。　到了2013 年底，　还是赚钱的。。
: http://www.globalfunddata.com/funds/new/performance/country/hed

a*n2015-01-21 08:01

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哦，　那当然。
只是gen2010说得太绝对了。　我找个反例子而已。　这几位是１６８顶尖的好手，
要他们亏钱，　还真的不容易。

【在 w**k 的大作中提到】

: 你给出的证据并不能否定gen2010的观点。赚钱的方得并不一定就不是拿客户的钱来赌
: ，只不过赌赢了而已。