l*n
2 楼
我觉得算。别人买他的书很多就是因为“韩寒”是作者才买的，要是标明作者是
“韩仁军”那还有几个人会买啊？他那个三重门99年一年就给你挣了50万。现在
看所以的作品，他谋略不只上千万。
现在被戳穿了，就想拍拍屁股走人？应该联合起来告他
【在 l*******u 的大作中提到】
: 挂羊头卖狗肉应该是诈骗吧？买过韩寒作品的是不是可以考虑起诉了？
“韩仁军”那还有几个人会买啊？他那个三重门99年一年就给你挣了50万。现在
看所以的作品，他谋略不只上千万。
现在被戳穿了，就想拍拍屁股走人？应该联合起来告他
【在 l*******u 的大作中提到】
: 挂羊头卖狗肉应该是诈骗吧？买过韩寒作品的是不是可以考虑起诉了？
s*6
3 楼
问题是你要给出直接的证据。
l*u
4 楼
按英美法原则，不需要直接证据，只要陪审团认定有罪，就是有罪。
【在 s*****6 的大作中提到】
: 问题是你要给出直接的证据。
【在 s*****6 的大作中提到】
: 问题是你要给出直接的证据。
p*s
5 楼
Identity Theft 身份盗窃
Identity cloning and concealment 身份克隆和隐藏
In this situation, the identity thief impersonates someone else in order to
conceal their own true identity. Examples might be illegal immigrants,
people hiding from creditors or other individuals, or those who simply want
to become "anonymous" for personal reasons.
韩寒事件中的某人的嫌疑就是这个identity cloning and concealment，属于those
who simply want to become "anonymous" for personal reasons. 属于这种情况的
比如：一个获得过几个上海市区县奖项的中年文学创作者自某年（例如1999年）后在文
坛销声匿迹，匿名冒充自己的那个连高中文学素养都不达标的儿子。
香港法律有相关惩罚，最高可判14年徒刑。就是说如果有香港人可以起诉身份窃贼的话
，这个窃贼一旦认罪，一进香港就得被关起来，因为香港是个法治社会。美国则认为这
个是联邦重罪（felony）。可不能像中国大陆这样，连个轻罪(misdemeanor)都算不上
。如果这样不了了之下去，同样的问题不会消失，甚至会愈演愈烈。
Hong Kong
Under HK Laws. Chap 210 Theft Ordinance, sec. 16A Fraud
“ (1) If any person by any deceit (whether or not the deceit is the
sole or main inducement) and with intent to defraud induces another person
to commit an act or make an omission, which results either-
(a) in benefit to any person other than the second-mentioned person; or (b)
in prejudice or a substantial risk of prejudice to any person other than the
first-mentioned person, the first-mentioned person commits the offense of
fraud and is liable on conviction upon indictment to imprisonment for 14
years.
”
Under the Personal Data (Privacy) Ordinance, it established the post of
Privacy Commissioner for Personal Data and mandate how much personal
information one can collect, retain and destruction. This legislation also
provides citizens the right to request information held by businesses and
government to the extent provided by this law.
United States
The increase in crimes of identity theft led to the drafting of the Identity
Theft and Assumption Deterrence Act.[31] In 1998, The Federal Trade
Commission appeared before the United States Senate.[32] The FTC discussed
crimes which exploit consumer credit to commit loan fraud, mortgage fraud,
lines-of-credit fraud, credit card fraud, commodities and services frauds.
The Identity Theft Deterrence Act (2003)[ITADA] amended U.S. Code Title 18,
§ 1028 ("Fraud related to activity in connection with identification
documents, authentication features, and information"). The statute now makes
the possession of any "means of identification" to "knowingly transfer,
possess, or use without lawful authority" a federal crime, alongside
unlawful possession of identification documents. However, for federal
jurisdiction to prosecute, the crime must include an "identification
document" that either: (a) is purportedly issued by the United States, (b)
is used or intended to defraud the United States, (c) is sent through the
mail, or (d) is used in a manner that affects interstate or foreign commerce
. See 18 U.S.C. § 1028(c). Punishment can be up to 5, 15, 20, or 30 years
in federal prison, plus fines, depending on the underlying crime per 18 U.S.
C. § 1028(b). In addition, punishments for the unlawful use of a "means of
identification" were strengthened in § 1028A ("Aggravated Identity Theft"),
allowing for a consecutive sentence under specific enumerated felony
violations as defined in § 1028A(c)(1) through (11).
Identity cloning and concealment 身份克隆和隐藏
In this situation, the identity thief impersonates someone else in order to
conceal their own true identity. Examples might be illegal immigrants,
people hiding from creditors or other individuals, or those who simply want
to become "anonymous" for personal reasons.
韩寒事件中的某人的嫌疑就是这个identity cloning and concealment，属于those
who simply want to become "anonymous" for personal reasons. 属于这种情况的
比如：一个获得过几个上海市区县奖项的中年文学创作者自某年（例如1999年）后在文
坛销声匿迹，匿名冒充自己的那个连高中文学素养都不达标的儿子。
香港法律有相关惩罚，最高可判14年徒刑。就是说如果有香港人可以起诉身份窃贼的话
，这个窃贼一旦认罪，一进香港就得被关起来，因为香港是个法治社会。美国则认为这
个是联邦重罪（felony）。可不能像中国大陆这样，连个轻罪(misdemeanor)都算不上
。如果这样不了了之下去，同样的问题不会消失，甚至会愈演愈烈。
Hong Kong
Under HK Laws. Chap 210 Theft Ordinance, sec. 16A Fraud
“ (1) If any person by any deceit (whether or not the deceit is the
sole or main inducement) and with intent to defraud induces another person
to commit an act or make an omission, which results either-
(a) in benefit to any person other than the second-mentioned person; or (b)
in prejudice or a substantial risk of prejudice to any person other than the
first-mentioned person, the first-mentioned person commits the offense of
fraud and is liable on conviction upon indictment to imprisonment for 14
years.
”
Under the Personal Data (Privacy) Ordinance, it established the post of
Privacy Commissioner for Personal Data and mandate how much personal
information one can collect, retain and destruction. This legislation also
provides citizens the right to request information held by businesses and
government to the extent provided by this law.
United States
The increase in crimes of identity theft led to the drafting of the Identity
Theft and Assumption Deterrence Act.[31] In 1998, The Federal Trade
Commission appeared before the United States Senate.[32] The FTC discussed
crimes which exploit consumer credit to commit loan fraud, mortgage fraud,
lines-of-credit fraud, credit card fraud, commodities and services frauds.
The Identity Theft Deterrence Act (2003)[ITADA] amended U.S. Code Title 18,
§ 1028 ("Fraud related to activity in connection with identification
documents, authentication features, and information"). The statute now makes
the possession of any "means of identification" to "knowingly transfer,
possess, or use without lawful authority" a federal crime, alongside
unlawful possession of identification documents. However, for federal
jurisdiction to prosecute, the crime must include an "identification
document" that either: (a) is purportedly issued by the United States, (b)
is used or intended to defraud the United States, (c) is sent through the
mail, or (d) is used in a manner that affects interstate or foreign commerce
. See 18 U.S.C. § 1028(c). Punishment can be up to 5, 15, 20, or 30 years
in federal prison, plus fines, depending on the underlying crime per 18 U.S.
C. § 1028(b). In addition, punishments for the unlawful use of a "means of
identification" were strengthened in § 1028A ("Aggravated Identity Theft"),
allowing for a consecutive sentence under specific enumerated felony
violations as defined in § 1028A(c)(1) through (11).
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