w*h
2 楼
你这个才是虚的。怎么定义这里面的IQ？靠统一考小学六年级数学？
以我之见，就是帐篷定律：这个国家的精英去相比。
从科学的角度，就是诺贝尔科学奖人数的对比。
【在 h****0 的大作中提到】
: 别整虚的， 看wiki.
以我之见，就是帐篷定律：这个国家的精英去相比。
从科学的角度，就是诺贝尔科学奖人数的对比。
【在 h****0 的大作中提到】
: 别整虚的， 看wiki.
h*0
3 楼
诺贝尔科学奖科学奖受政治，文化，经济水平影响很大，纯粹IQ水平，这就是世界上专
业的定义结果。
【在 w********h 的大作中提到】
: 你这个才是虚的。怎么定义这里面的IQ？靠统一考小学六年级数学？
: 以我之见，就是帐篷定律：这个国家的精英去相比。
: 从科学的角度，就是诺贝尔科学奖人数的对比。
业的定义结果。
【在 w********h 的大作中提到】
: 你这个才是虚的。怎么定义这里面的IQ？靠统一考小学六年级数学？
: 以我之见，就是帐篷定律：这个国家的精英去相比。
: 从科学的角度，就是诺贝尔科学奖人数的对比。
w*h
4 楼
那只能说东亚三国的standard deviation不够大。。。
【在 h****0 的大作中提到】
: 诺贝尔科学奖科学奖受政治，文化，经济水平影响很大，纯粹IQ水平，这就是世界上专
: 业的定义结果。
【在 h****0 的大作中提到】
: 诺贝尔科学奖科学奖受政治，文化，经济水平影响很大，纯粹IQ水平，这就是世界上专
: 业的定义结果。
w*e
5 楼
海南悲剧了
g*d
6 楼
澳洲怎么这么惨
【在 h****0 的大作中提到】
: 别整虚的， 看wiki.
【在 h****0 的大作中提到】
: 别整虚的， 看wiki.
I*a
7 楼
首先IQ值代表的是模式认知能力，IQ高的理解能力强肯定没错。
其次你这个帐篷论是个伪定律，广大世界国家里猪一样的队友们会纷纷像你发来贺电。
【在 w********h 的大作中提到】
: 你这个才是虚的。怎么定义这里面的IQ？靠统一考小学六年级数学？
: 以我之见，就是帐篷定律：这个国家的精英去相比。
: 从科学的角度，就是诺贝尔科学奖人数的对比。
其次你这个帐篷论是个伪定律，广大世界国家里猪一样的队友们会纷纷像你发来贺电。
【在 w********h 的大作中提到】
: 你这个才是虚的。怎么定义这里面的IQ？靠统一考小学六年级数学？
: 以我之见，就是帐篷定律：这个国家的精英去相比。
: 从科学的角度，就是诺贝尔科学奖人数的对比。
a*n
8 楼
外蒙分裂出去 难道就傻了
【在 h****0 的大作中提到】
: 别整虚的， 看wiki.
【在 h****0 的大作中提到】
: 别整虚的， 看wiki.
w*0
9 楼
These are IQ of natives, that is why Australia's avg. is low.
d*y
10 楼
说实话,我很怀疑这个数据的来源和准确性.
估计这些iq也就是在上海北京这样的大城市找点人测一测,真要把西部农村,新疆,西藏
这些地方的数据考虑进来,我不觉得还会有这么高的平均值.
【在 w********h 的大作中提到】
: 那只能说东亚三国的standard deviation不够大。。。
估计这些iq也就是在上海北京这样的大城市找点人测一测,真要把西部农村,新疆,西藏
这些地方的数据考虑进来,我不觉得还会有这么高的平均值.
【在 w********h 的大作中提到】
: 那只能说东亚三国的standard deviation不够大。。。
I*a
11 楼
首先这个测量方法不是只忽略中国的蠢人而不忽略外国的蠢人吧？
其次上面那个帐篷论好像跟你让这个假说失去价值。
【在 d*****y 的大作中提到】
: 说实话,我很怀疑这个数据的来源和准确性.
: 估计这些iq也就是在上海北京这样的大城市找点人测一测,真要把西部农村,新疆,西藏
: 这些地方的数据考虑进来,我不觉得还会有这么高的平均值.
其次上面那个帐篷论好像跟你让这个假说失去价值。
【在 d*****y 的大作中提到】
: 说实话,我很怀疑这个数据的来源和准确性.
: 估计这些iq也就是在上海北京这样的大城市找点人测一测,真要把西部农村,新疆,西藏
: 这些地方的数据考虑进来,我不觉得还会有这么高的平均值.
d*y
12 楼
如果你这个图的平均IQ的计算忽略了大量人口的话,你这个图就没有任何意义.
【在 I******a 的大作中提到】
: 首先这个测量方法不是只忽略中国的蠢人而不忽略外国的蠢人吧？
: 其次上面那个帐篷论好像跟你让这个假说失去价值。
【在 I******a 的大作中提到】
: 首先这个测量方法不是只忽略中国的蠢人而不忽略外国的蠢人吧？
: 其次上面那个帐篷论好像跟你让这个假说失去价值。
a*1
13 楼
这个图 come from <>
Race Mean I.Q Mean brain size (cc)
East-Asians 105 1416
Europeans 100 1369
South-East Asians 90 1332
Pacific Islanders 85 1317
South Asians and North Africans 84 1293
Africans 67 1282
Indigenous Australians (aborigines) 62 1225
OverviewAs with Lynn's and Tatu Vanhanen's 2006 book IQ and Global
Inequality, the book was published by Washington Summit Publishers.[1] It
was followed in 2008 by The Global Bell Curve. Lynn's survey is an expansion
by nearly four times of the data collected in his 2002 book IQ and the
Wealth of Nations with Tatu Vanhanen, which dealt with the relationship
between IQ and economic development.
Average IQ of indigenous populations according to Lynn (2006)[2]The book
claims to represent the largest collection and review of the global
Intelligence Quotient (IQ) data, surveying 620 published studies from around
the world, with a total of 813,778 tested individuals. Lynn's meta-analysis
lists East Asians (IQ 105), Europeans (100), Inuit (91), South East Asians
(87), Native Americans (87), Pacific Islanders (85), South Asians and North
Africans (84), Indians (82), non-bushmen Sub-Saharan Africans (67),
Australian Aborigines (62), Bushmen and Pygmies (54). The average human IQ
of the world is estimated to be 90.[3]
Lynn defines races as the genetic clusters or ancestral population groups
identified in previous genetic cluster analysis by Luigi Cavalli-Sforza and
his colleagues in their 1994 book The History and Geography of Human Genes.
Many current ethnic groups would be mixtures of these races. See also the
Race and genetics article.
The book defends the reliability and validity of the measures. When taken as
national averages, the data available, particularly regarding the
developing world, is uncertain due to limited sampling, year of testing, and
varying type of cognitive ability test used. Lynn argues that, though
additional evidence may be required to confirm some of the racial IQ
estimates, the surveyed studies have high reliability in the sense that
different studies give similar results. For instance, East Asians invariably
obtain high IQs, not only in their own native homelands but also in
Singapore, Malaysia, Hawaii, and North America. He also argues that they
have high validity in the sense that they correlate highly with performance
in international studies of achievement in mathematics and science and with
national economic development.
Broadly speaking, Lynn estimates that about half of the IQ deficit of third
world races can be explained by inadequate nutrition, while the other half
is racially genetic. For example Lynn argues that while Africans living in
Africa average IQ 67, African Americans living in the Southern United States
(where European admixture is very low) average IQ 80. Lynn believes the
latter figure represents their genotypic intelligence, while the IQs in
Africa are stunted by malnutrition.
Ashkenazi Jews who Lynn classifies as West Asian/European hybrids, average
108-115 in the U.S. and Britain. Israel has an average IQ of only about 95.
Lynn explains this by breaking down the Israeli population into three
components: 40 percent Ashkenazi Jews (European Jewish) with an average IQ
of 103; 40 percent Sephardi Jews (Oriental Jewish) with an average IQ of 91;
and 20 percent Arab with an average IQ of 86. Lynn suggests these
differences could have arisen from selective migration (more intelligent
Jews emigrated to Britain and the USA), intermarriage with neighboring
populations with different average IQs, selective survival through
persecution (European Jews were the most persecuted), and the presence of
ethnic non-Jews among the Ashkenazim in Israel as a result of the
immigration of people from the former Soviet Bloc countries who posed as
Jews. See also the article on Ashkenazi intelligence.
Lynn argues that as early humans migrated out of Africa there was the
cognitively demanding problem of cold winters with no plant food. These
problems became much greater in the last ice age that began about 28,000
years ago and lasted until about 11,000 years ago. This required greater
intelligence than was needed in tropical and semi-tropical equatorial Africa
where plant foods are plentiful throughout the year and regulating
temperature is easier. However, he writes that the Inuit, who lives in the
coldest climate, do not have the highest average IQ. He explains this by a
larger population density increasing the number of beneficial mutations and
increasing interactions between groups of people which increases the speed
by which advantageous genes can spread
Race Mean I.Q Mean brain size (cc)
East-Asians 105 1416
Europeans 100 1369
South-East Asians 90 1332
Pacific Islanders 85 1317
South Asians and North Africans 84 1293
Africans 67 1282
Indigenous Australians (aborigines) 62 1225
OverviewAs with Lynn's and Tatu Vanhanen's 2006 book IQ and Global
Inequality, the book was published by Washington Summit Publishers.[1] It
was followed in 2008 by The Global Bell Curve. Lynn's survey is an expansion
by nearly four times of the data collected in his 2002 book IQ and the
Wealth of Nations with Tatu Vanhanen, which dealt with the relationship
between IQ and economic development.
Average IQ of indigenous populations according to Lynn (2006)[2]The book
claims to represent the largest collection and review of the global
Intelligence Quotient (IQ) data, surveying 620 published studies from around
the world, with a total of 813,778 tested individuals. Lynn's meta-analysis
lists East Asians (IQ 105), Europeans (100), Inuit (91), South East Asians
(87), Native Americans (87), Pacific Islanders (85), South Asians and North
Africans (84), Indians (82), non-bushmen Sub-Saharan Africans (67),
Australian Aborigines (62), Bushmen and Pygmies (54). The average human IQ
of the world is estimated to be 90.[3]
Lynn defines races as the genetic clusters or ancestral population groups
identified in previous genetic cluster analysis by Luigi Cavalli-Sforza and
his colleagues in their 1994 book The History and Geography of Human Genes.
Many current ethnic groups would be mixtures of these races. See also the
Race and genetics article.
The book defends the reliability and validity of the measures. When taken as
national averages, the data available, particularly regarding the
developing world, is uncertain due to limited sampling, year of testing, and
varying type of cognitive ability test used. Lynn argues that, though
additional evidence may be required to confirm some of the racial IQ
estimates, the surveyed studies have high reliability in the sense that
different studies give similar results. For instance, East Asians invariably
obtain high IQs, not only in their own native homelands but also in
Singapore, Malaysia, Hawaii, and North America. He also argues that they
have high validity in the sense that they correlate highly with performance
in international studies of achievement in mathematics and science and with
national economic development.
Broadly speaking, Lynn estimates that about half of the IQ deficit of third
world races can be explained by inadequate nutrition, while the other half
is racially genetic. For example Lynn argues that while Africans living in
Africa average IQ 67, African Americans living in the Southern United States
(where European admixture is very low) average IQ 80. Lynn believes the
latter figure represents their genotypic intelligence, while the IQs in
Africa are stunted by malnutrition.
Ashkenazi Jews who Lynn classifies as West Asian/European hybrids, average
108-115 in the U.S. and Britain. Israel has an average IQ of only about 95.
Lynn explains this by breaking down the Israeli population into three
components: 40 percent Ashkenazi Jews (European Jewish) with an average IQ
of 103; 40 percent Sephardi Jews (Oriental Jewish) with an average IQ of 91;
and 20 percent Arab with an average IQ of 86. Lynn suggests these
differences could have arisen from selective migration (more intelligent
Jews emigrated to Britain and the USA), intermarriage with neighboring
populations with different average IQs, selective survival through
persecution (European Jews were the most persecuted), and the presence of
ethnic non-Jews among the Ashkenazim in Israel as a result of the
immigration of people from the former Soviet Bloc countries who posed as
Jews. See also the article on Ashkenazi intelligence.
Lynn argues that as early humans migrated out of Africa there was the
cognitively demanding problem of cold winters with no plant food. These
problems became much greater in the last ice age that began about 28,000
years ago and lasted until about 11,000 years ago. This required greater
intelligence than was needed in tropical and semi-tropical equatorial Africa
where plant foods are plentiful throughout the year and regulating
temperature is easier. However, he writes that the Inuit, who lives in the
coldest climate, do not have the highest average IQ. He explains this by a
larger population density increasing the number of beneficial mutations and
increasing interactions between groups of people which increases the speed
by which advantageous genes can spread
I*a
14 楼
首先你说的不是“如果”么，要证明才算。
其次退一步说，没有意义还不等于错误，对吧。
【在 d*****y 的大作中提到】
: 如果你这个图的平均IQ的计算忽略了大量人口的话,你这个图就没有任何意义.
其次退一步说，没有意义还不等于错误，对吧。
【在 d*****y 的大作中提到】
: 如果你这个图的平均IQ的计算忽略了大量人口的话,你这个图就没有任何意义.
t*t
15 楼
妈的，难道非洲人都是白痴吗？67的平均智商骇人听闻啊。
L*r
16 楼
外蒙和大陆的差距还是很大的。大陆汉人多。外蒙蒙古族多
【在 a*********n 的大作中提到】
: 外蒙分裂出去 难道就傻了
【在 a*********n 的大作中提到】
: 外蒙分裂出去 难道就傻了
p*y
17 楼
全国山河一片黄，除了海南。
当年那张邮票现在可是天价。
【在 w****e 的大作中提到】
: 海南悲剧了
当年那张邮票现在可是天价。
【在 w****e 的大作中提到】
: 海南悲剧了
r*g
18 楼
大锅，你不知道有标准的iq测试吗？
【在 w********h 的大作中提到】
: 你这个才是虚的。怎么定义这里面的IQ？靠统一考小学六年级数学？
: 以我之见，就是帐篷定律：这个国家的精英去相比。
: 从科学的角度，就是诺贝尔科学奖人数的对比。
【在 w********h 的大作中提到】
: 你这个才是虚的。怎么定义这里面的IQ？靠统一考小学六年级数学？
: 以我之见，就是帐篷定律：这个国家的精英去相比。
: 从科学的角度，就是诺贝尔科学奖人数的对比。
r*g
19 楼
iq测试基本上是background and education independent的，不管你是见多识广的城里
人，还是一辈子没出过村的乡下人，在iq测试上前者并不一定占优。
【在 d*****y 的大作中提到】
: 说实话,我很怀疑这个数据的来源和准确性.
: 估计这些iq也就是在上海北京这样的大城市找点人测一测,真要把西部农村,新疆,西藏
: 这些地方的数据考虑进来,我不觉得还会有这么高的平均值.
人，还是一辈子没出过村的乡下人，在iq测试上前者并不一定占优。
【在 d*****y 的大作中提到】
: 说实话,我很怀疑这个数据的来源和准确性.
: 估计这些iq也就是在上海北京这样的大城市找点人测一测,真要把西部农村,新疆,西藏
: 这些地方的数据考虑进来,我不觉得还会有这么高的平均值.
l*2
20 楼
难怪现在很多国人都往澳洲跑呢，原来那边人笨比较好混啊。
开个玩笑，莫怪莫怪。
【在 h****0 的大作中提到】
: 别整虚的， 看wiki.
开个玩笑，莫怪莫怪。
【在 h****0 的大作中提到】
: 别整虚的， 看wiki.
w*h
21 楼
no standard diviation, no p value, no discussion at all.
【在 a****1 的大作中提到】
: 这个图 come from <>
: Race Mean I.Q Mean brain size (cc)
: East-Asians 105 1416
: Europeans 100 1369
: South-East Asians 90 1332
: Pacific Islanders 85 1317
: South Asians and North Africans 84 1293
: Africans 67 1282
: Indigenous Australians (aborigines) 62 1225
:
【在 a****1 的大作中提到】
: 这个图 come from <
: Race Mean I.Q Mean brain size (cc)
: East-Asians 105 1416
: Europeans 100 1369
: South-East Asians 90 1332
: Pacific Islanders 85 1317
: South Asians and North Africans 84 1293
: Africans 67 1282
: Indigenous Australians (aborigines) 62 1225
:
w*h
22 楼
大哥我测过过少次,一直130-140,啥烂玩意阿...
不认为有啥科学的,统计上究竟有多少分辨率,那数据连方差都没有...
【在 r*****g 的大作中提到】
: 大锅，你不知道有标准的iq测试吗？
不认为有啥科学的,统计上究竟有多少分辨率,那数据连方差都没有...
【在 r*****g 的大作中提到】
: 大锅，你不知道有标准的iq测试吗？
s*e
23 楼
记得之前看过的几篇paper，iq测试成绩与教育程度，年龄没多少相关
j*e
24 楼
澳大利亚悲剧了
x*a
25 楼
这个比较扯。
【在 s*******e 的大作中提到】
: 记得之前看过的几篇paper，iq测试成绩与教育程度，年龄没多少相关
【在 s*******e 的大作中提到】
: 记得之前看过的几篇paper，iq测试成绩与教育程度，年龄没多少相关
b*a
26 楼
re
n*n
27 楼
非洲最笨的哪个是啥国家？
n*n
28 楼
haha
【在 w****e 的大作中提到】
: 海南悲剧了
【在 w****e 的大作中提到】
: 海南悲剧了
x*u
29 楼
澳洲土著。
其实这个IQ值并不代表什么。那些地方的人缺少一些人生经历，所以对IQ测试里面一些
题目不理解。但不代表他们的脑子就一定没这个能力。
【在 g********d 的大作中提到】
: 澳洲怎么这么惨
f*i
30 楼
...
k*n
31 楼
這張圖只能代表小孩在學校做題的多寡吧
h*o
32 楼
北韩假了吧。。。
y*w
33 楼
印度人竟然IQ不行？怎么我碰到的印度人都是非常狡猾的，莫非印度人四大种姓IQ分布
不一样？
【在 h****0 的大作中提到】
: 别整虚的， 看wiki.
不一样？
【在 h****0 的大作中提到】
: 别整虚的， 看wiki.
i*q
34 楼
要做一流的科学家，就要和一流的科学家切磋，还要有做一流工作的勇气和毅力，
中国人基本上出来读博士之前都不知道前沿是什么，如何能和西方人才竞争，
再加上亚洲的世俗文化让很多本来有天赋的人都知难而退了。
一个简单的例子，很多世界级的大科学家都是一辈子单身的，同样的人在
中国要承担的社会压力远高于西方。
【在 w********h 的大作中提到】
: 那只能说东亚三国的standard deviation不够大。。。
中国人基本上出来读博士之前都不知道前沿是什么，如何能和西方人才竞争，
再加上亚洲的世俗文化让很多本来有天赋的人都知难而退了。
一个简单的例子，很多世界级的大科学家都是一辈子单身的，同样的人在
中国要承担的社会压力远高于西方。
【在 w********h 的大作中提到】
: 那只能说东亚三国的standard deviation不够大。。。
m*n
35 楼
我不相信有什么测试方法可以准确算出IQ
s*g
36 楼
Totally bullshit!
How much has Asian contributed to mankind since the very beginning ? science
, math, engineering, medicine, philosophy, anything?
Anybody who thinks Chinese are smarter than other races, get basic facts
right first.
【在 h****0 的大作中提到】
: 别整虚的， 看wiki.
How much has Asian contributed to mankind since the very beginning ? science
, math, engineering, medicine, philosophy, anything?
Anybody who thinks Chinese are smarter than other races, get basic facts
right first.
【在 h****0 的大作中提到】
: 别整虚的， 看wiki.
I*a
37 楼
You are not Chines are you? What does being smart have to do with
contribution? Do you mean to say having an IQ of 180 automatically loses the
right to drink beer all day and do nothing else? This is farcing stupid.
science
【在 s*****g 的大作中提到】
: Totally bullshit!
: How much has Asian contributed to mankind since the very beginning ? science
: , math, engineering, medicine, philosophy, anything?
: Anybody who thinks Chinese are smarter than other races, get basic facts
: right first.
contribution? Do you mean to say having an IQ of 180 automatically loses the
right to drink beer all day and do nothing else? This is farcing stupid.
science
【在 s*****g 的大作中提到】
: Totally bullshit!
: How much has Asian contributed to mankind since the very beginning ? science
: , math, engineering, medicine, philosophy, anything?
: Anybody who thinks Chinese are smarter than other races, get basic facts
: right first.
j*x
38 楼
IQ是个大脑硬件的指标吧， 具体贡献，科学家，啥的，需要专业训练，需要教育，
这好似操作系统．
双核， 大内存给你装ｗｐｓ，ｄｏｓ， 你能怎样呢？
相信ｉｑ大于８０的都能看懂这个比喻， 都散了吧，
我们中国人，特别是在大陆的，需要更新操作系统， 硬件即使不是最好的，也是２０
％那部分的，我不怀疑．
这好似操作系统．
双核， 大内存给你装ｗｐｓ，ｄｏｓ， 你能怎样呢？
相信ｉｑ大于８０的都能看懂这个比喻， 都散了吧，
我们中国人，特别是在大陆的，需要更新操作系统， 硬件即使不是最好的，也是２０
％那部分的，我不怀疑．
S*p
39 楼
那边人很少，不过西部少数民族低一些，而蒙古满族等比较高
【在 d*****y 的大作中提到】
: 说实话,我很怀疑这个数据的来源和准确性.
: 估计这些iq也就是在上海北京这样的大城市找点人测一测,真要把西部农村,新疆,西藏
: 这些地方的数据考虑进来,我不觉得还会有这么高的平均值.
【在 d*****y 的大作中提到】
: 说实话,我很怀疑这个数据的来源和准确性.
: 估计这些iq也就是在上海北京这样的大城市找点人测一测,真要把西部农村,新疆,西藏
: 这些地方的数据考虑进来,我不觉得还会有这么高的平均值.
S*p
40 楼
别的不说，只说我了解的领域，搞数学最终就是拼智商
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