Only fools cannot see this incident is targeted toward Chinese people, got anti-Chinese written all over it.
j*5
4 楼
Turn an international airline around in mid-air, and call a Chinese mom kidnap her own son and thrown her in jail and don't allow her to visit her dying mother. How can you guys don't see the injustice here.
j*5
5 楼
This incident make me feel sick about America.
j*5
6 楼
What I have diminishing little hope about America is gone.
j*5
7 楼
America to me is now 8ren8yi.
j*5
8 楼
No different than Chinese government.
s*y
9 楼
外F和普通华人是不一样的群体,外F更黑中国,恨中国
【在 j*****5 的大作中提到】 : Only fools cannot see this incident is targeted toward Chinese people, got : anti-Chinese written all over it.
j*5
10 楼
I don't care about 外F, but I care that FBI and American people 恨中国. Once an international airborne, it's in international space, FBI do not have authority to turn it around.
j*t
11 楼
她蠢在既然要逃回中国就不要选择美联航的飞机.
have
【在 j*****5 的大作中提到】 : I don't care about 外F, but I care that FBI and American people 恨中国. : Once an international airborne, it's in international space, FBI do not have : authority to turn it around.
x*u
12 楼
她蠢在既然要逃回中国就不要在上飞机前还要写email通知美国丈夫。
【在 j******t 的大作中提到】 : 她蠢在既然要逃回中国就不要选择美联航的飞机. : : have
n*5
13 楼
She should have just left without saying anything and she should have been fine. She could have come back a few weeks later like nothing happened. Her husband would have no idea that they made a trip back to China
l*i
14 楼
I do not think Wenjing Liu had any intent to kidnap her son to China and never return. Her problem is that she did not take the court order seriously which she should have , like many idiots here a few days ago thought they would not be obligated to child support anymore if they lost their job or became penniless. Some people interpret the law according to their own emotion, and refuse to acknowledge the fact it doe not count in the real world. I do not think she could be convicted of child kidnapping because the evidence is circumstantial, but she would definitely be held in contempt to court order, which is also a crime. She needs to hire a competent lawyer to fight for her and her son in the courtroom, but I doubt she has the financial resources to do so.
Her
【在 n********5 的大作中提到】 : She should have just left without saying anything and she should have been : fine. She could have come back a few weeks later like nothing happened. Her : husband would have no idea that they made a trip back to China
g*l
15 楼
This is NOT targeting against Chinese people. Cheap wai F deserve it.
【在 j*****5 的大作中提到】 : Only fools cannot see this incident is targeted toward Chinese people, got : anti-Chinese written all over it.
s*y
16 楼
re
T*g
17 楼
外F不算中国人,别用Chinese
j*5
18 楼
If you would be nice to a girl, maybe you could get some.
【在 T******g 的大作中提到】 : 外F不算中国人,别用Chinese
j*5
19 楼
bad person is a bad person, it doesn't matter what skin color they have. That's also true for good person. Anyone ma 外F is definitely not a good person.
j*5
20 楼
What I see is anti-Chinese movement is being developed. And I don't see any solutions, but we have to pay attention to it.
if you can be a little bit better than you are now, maybe they don't need to 外发, they can marry you instead. But too bad wsn can't handle women, and they do want they do best, whine and blame on the women. You are really 让老外认为中国人都是没脑子,下贱,种族歧视 and cruel。
The pair had joint legal custody of the child, and the custody order said that neither party could travel with the child outside the United States without written and notarized consent of the other party. 靠,不懂英文还是估计误导呀。既然法律这么规定的,她不遵守,跟中国人有屁关系。
【在 j*****5 的大作中提到】 : Only fools cannot see this incident is targeted toward Chinese people, got : anti-Chinese written all over it.
j*5
25 楼
The law also said if you slap your wife and children, you could be in jail for spouse or child abuse. But how many of wsn are actually in jail for that? If the women really want you in jail they could have the law enforced, but most of them will not do that. That's called love, do you understand?
【在 m***s 的大作中提到】 : The pair had joint legal custody of the child, and the custody order said : that neither party could travel with the child outside the United States : without written and notarized consent of the other party. : 靠,不懂英文还是估计误导呀。既然法律这么规定的,她不遵守,跟中国人有屁关系。
l*i
26 楼
She just violated a court order. I do not think FBI would formally charge her kidnaping.
【在 m***s 的大作中提到】 : The pair had joint legal custody of the child, and the custody order said : that neither party could travel with the child outside the United States : without written and notarized consent of the other party. : 靠,不懂英文还是估计误导呀。既然法律这么规定的,她不遵守,跟中国人有屁关系。
【在 j*****5 的大作中提到】 : The law also said if you slap your wife and children, you could be in jail : for spouse or child abuse. : But how many of wsn are actually in jail for that? : If the women really want you in jail they could have the law enforced, but : most of them will not do that. That's called love, do you understand?
j*5
28 楼
There are a lot of case such as not paying child support, domestic abuse, if women really enforce the law, many men would be in jail. But they have mercy on their men even though they have divorced, or in the process or divorce. These facts proved that women are more loving, merciful and forgiving than men. Now there is a case of American guy doing terrible stuff to his divorced wife who happen to be a Chinese. You as a Chinese, do want to lift a finger to help your own kind, but want beat her to death, calling her names, laughing at her misfortune. Your opportunity to be a better men has passed. You just convicted yourselves as human trash WSN.
【在 l****i 的大作中提到】 : I do not think Wenjing Liu had any intent to kidnap her son to China and : never return. : Her problem is that she did not take the court order seriously which she : should have , like many idiots here a few days ago thought they would not be : obligated to child support anymore if they lost their job or became : penniless. : Some people interpret the law according to their own emotion, and refuse to : acknowledge the fact it doe not count in the real world. : I do not think she could be convicted of child kidnapping because the : evidence is circumstantial, but she would definitely be held in contempt to
【在 j*****5 的大作中提到】 : The law also said if you slap your wife and children, you could be in jail : for spouse or child abuse. : But how many of wsn are actually in jail for that? : If the women really want you in jail they could have the law enforced, but : most of them will not do that. That's called love, do you understand?
j*5
31 楼
You want to know the boy's father's motive? Don't be so naive, the boy's father use joint custody, so he can avoid pay child support. He use the law to punish his ex-wife, to revenge the divorce. He is a low life white trash, who never graduated from high school. It's a mistake on her part to ever married him. But American law has exceptions to protect the innocent, such as if you are caught in speeding, and if you can show proof that you have a medical emergency, need to go to hospital, the cop will let you go, because the court will definitely dismiss the case. Another example is the luxury car tax law, has luxury tax on cars over $30K, but with exception the handicap people, because they have to put more equipments in the car to support their handicap. In this case, her mother is dying, that's an emergency, time is running out to see her mother and for the boy to see his grandma for one last time. She already notified her husband by email. The other junk that the law requires are just paper. If the mother really want to take the child and run, she could do it any time and do it quietly and be successful doing it already. This is a case of putting paperwork above human need, and use law as weapon to hurt the boy's mother to satisfy an evil man's heart to seek revenge. The victim is the boy's mother and the boy for he might never see his grandma again.
【在 j*****5 的大作中提到】 : You want to know the boy's father's motive? : Don't be so naive, the boy's father use joint custody, so he can avoid pay : child support. : He use the law to punish his ex-wife, to revenge the divorce. : He is a low life white trash, who never graduated from high school. : It's a mistake on her part to ever married him. : But American law has exceptions to protect the innocent, such as if you are : caught in speeding, and if you can show proof that you have a medical : emergency, need to go to hospital, the cop will let you go, because the : court will definitely dismiss the case.
j*5
33 楼
Foolish are you, if the mother want full custody of her child she could get it, there is very little the child's father can do to stop it. American court give the mother more rights than the father in divorce case and that's very correct in protecting woman and child's rights. But Chinese mothers usually don't know the law, or too kind heart not to ask for their full rights.
If a Chinese person don't care about his own kind, then he is no different than an animal. Why would any girl Chinese or not want to marry an animal.
j*5
35 楼
I mean if you beat a white guy on the street, white people will call a cop. if you beat a black guy on the street, black brothers will kill you on the spot. Shouldn't you have compassion on a Chinese sister got wronged by a white trash.
m*n
36 楼
" American court give the mother more rights than the father in divorce case" 是事实. 但是这与"if the mother want full custody of her child she could get it" 是完全两回事. 你大概不明白physical custody与legal custody的差别. 其实说这么多没什么用. 你就是喜欢那儿自说自话, 先编一个你自己想 出来的男方的恶劣动机, 然后来借题发挥. 咱正常人, 是只根据事实说话. 事实是男方要制止女方没经他同意 带孩子离境的行为才报的警. 这个做法, 不但合法, 而且完全合情合理. 你再胡编人家是为什么这么做, 也不说明问题.
get ask
【在 j*****5 的大作中提到】 : Foolish are you, if the mother want full custody of her child she could get : it, there is very little the child's father can do to stop it. : American court give the mother more rights than the father in divorce case : and that's very correct in protecting woman and child's rights. : But Chinese mothers usually don't know the law, or too kind heart not to ask : for their full rights.
m*n
37 楼
你的意思显然是如果你无故杀个美国人, 中国人也要支持你. 而且还要大家说你是"got wronged by a white trash"
【在 j*****5 的大作中提到】 : I mean if you beat a white guy on the street, white people will call a cop. : if you beat a black guy on the street, black brothers will kill you on the : spot. : Shouldn't you have compassion on a Chinese sister got wronged by a white : trash.
j*5
38 楼
don't need to bullshit. the child was never in any danger.
【在 m**n 的大作中提到】 : 你的意思显然是如果你无故杀个美国人, 中国人也要支持你. : 而且还要大家说你是"got wronged by a white trash"
【在 j*****5 的大作中提到】 : don't need to bullshit. : the child was never in any danger.
j*5
40 楼
One day you may face injustice in your life such as racism. Don't believe that? just see how Japanese Americans was treated during WWII. You will learn pretty quickly how lawful, fair and justice American system really are.
case"
【在 m**n 的大作中提到】 : " American court give the mother more rights than the father in divorce case" : 是事实. : 但是这与"if the mother want full custody of her child she could get it" : 是完全两回事. : 你大概不明白physical custody与legal custody的差别. : 其实说这么多没什么用. 你就是喜欢那儿自说自话, 先编一个你自己想 : 出来的男方的恶劣动机, 然后来借题发挥. : 咱正常人, 是只根据事实说话. 事实是男方要制止女方没经他同意 : 带孩子离境的行为才报的警. 这个做法, 不但合法, 而且完全合情合理. : 你再胡编人家是为什么这么做, 也不说明问题.
j*5
41 楼
if you don't take care of your own people, really there is nobody else will care.
【在 j*****5 的大作中提到】 : One day you may face injustice in your life such as racism. : Don't believe that? just see how Japanese Americans was treated during WWII. : You will learn pretty quickly how lawful, fair and justice American system : really are. : : case"
m*n
43 楼
请您先说明为什么这女的不该被抓. 否则您的意思就是您不管对错, 只要是中国人, 您就说他/她对.
will
【在 j*****5 的大作中提到】 : if you don't take care of your own people, really there is nobody else will : care.
k*e
44 楼
这女的book的是one way ticket,母亲病重的理由也可能是编的,因为订票时间和她的 说法不符。 可能真就是打算一去不回了,这个就真是kidnapping了。
j*5
45 楼
I am done talking to you, you are not worth my time. I will however say a few last words. About 10 years ago, a black got beating by a few white cops for resisting arrest, and black people went riots on the street, and white cops was sentenced to jail and city paid millions of dollars. A few days a black teenager got killed by a white cops for resisting arrest, the news channel went over drive on that news and black people all supported the teenager and his mom. Now a Chinese women on her way to see her dying mother with her only son, got turn back in middle air, throw in jail because some paper work, and some Chinese here cheered on and call her names, saying that bitch deserved it. What kind of slave and low life mentality is that?
【在 j*****5 的大作中提到】 : I am done talking to you, you are not worth my time. : I will however say a few last words. : About 10 years ago, a black got beating by a few white cops for resisting : arrest, and black people went riots on the street, and white cops was : sentenced to jail and city paid millions of dollars. : A few days a black teenager got killed by a white cops for resisting arrest, : the news channel went over drive on that news and black people all : supported the teenager and his mom. : Now a Chinese women on her way to see her dying mother with her only son, : got turn back in middle air, throw in jail because some paper work, and some
j*5
47 楼
To make sure the justice is done is not your job or my job, there are Judges , government, lawyers for that. But to voice support to our own people regardless if she made a few mistakes here or there, is our job. I mean those black people who resisting arrest were serious crime, but because they are treated badly, they got support from their people and they are free and honored. I don't see her crime is big at all, if she had time, I am sure she will get the paperwork done, however, she is treated inhumanly. Regardless, what she has done, we are minority people living here in the us, when we facing prosecution from the majority race we need support each other, or at rick of being eaten alive. That's the real lesson here. Let your voice being heard, shout, but don't shout against your own people for one day you might need support from your people and there will be no one to help you.
m*n
48 楼
你这算说了点实话 - "voice support to our own people regardless if she made a few mistakes". 您一开始是这么说的么? 好象不是吧? 您动不动要把她说的好象没错似的. 我再说一遍, 她的问题不是那几张paperwork的问题. 不是说她到哪办一下 就能拿来那paperwork. 她的问题就是在于对一个她没有完全决定权的事情 自己单独做了决定, 而且还付之行动了. 其他有决定权的人反对, 于是出 现法律纠纷. 另外啊您这是在求人帮忙哪, 有点求人的态度好么? 先来骂一通您要求帮忙的人是"fool", (对不起, 我看肯定有不少人看不出 这是专门针对Chinese的, 那么您前面说了, 这些人都是fools) 您这是求人么您?
Judges mistakes they get us,
【在 j*****5 的大作中提到】 : To make sure the justice is done is not your job or my job, there are Judges : , government, lawyers for that. : But to voice support to our own people regardless if she made a few mistakes : here or there, is our job. : I mean those black people who resisting arrest were serious crime, but : because they are treated badly, they got support from their people and they : are free and honored. : I don't see her crime is big at all, if she had time, I am sure she will get : the paperwork done, however, she is treated inhumanly. : Regardless, what she has done, we are minority people living here in the us,
j*5
49 楼
You sound like a pre-law student. I hope you have a bright future. But you treat law as God, but law is not God, for we created law, not law created us. Laws are design to serve the general need of the people. We should put humanity first, not the law above humanity. I have no relationship with that poor lady. I don't know her. But some of my friend's friends know her. Let me tell you a true story. While I was second year in College, I met this girl from China, she was poor just like me and working at her uncle's restaurant. One day she went to have driving test and failed. She was somewhat upset and thinking about that test while went to a grocery store to pickup a toothpaste or tooth brush. Because she was thinking to intensely she forgot to pay and walk out with the tooth brush. This is a small mistake. If a white girl did it, they probably just say excuse me, lady you forgot to pay. And she would just say ops, I am sorry. But they called the police instead. So police came and took her, handcuffed her, took her to the station. And in the station, they humiliated her, saying if you are caught stealing in China, what will they do to you? They will probably hand you or cut your hands off, right? So don't ever think that Americans are so honest and fair. Deep inside they are ruthless, arrogant, very racially biased and discrimination.
【在 m**n 的大作中提到】 : 你这算说了点实话 - "voice support to our own people regardless : if she made a few mistakes". : 您一开始是这么说的么? 好象不是吧? 您动不动要把她说的好象没错似的. : 我再说一遍, 她的问题不是那几张paperwork的问题. 不是说她到哪办一下 : 就能拿来那paperwork. 她的问题就是在于对一个她没有完全决定权的事情 : 自己单独做了决定, 而且还付之行动了. 其他有决定权的人反对, 于是出 : 现法律纠纷. : 另外啊您这是在求人帮忙哪, 有点求人的态度好么? : 先来骂一通您要求帮忙的人是"fool", (对不起, 我看肯定有不少人看不出 : 这是专门针对Chinese的, 那么您前面说了, 这些人都是fools)
【在 j*****5 的大作中提到】 : You sound like a pre-law student. I hope you have a bright future. But you : treat law as God, but law is not God, for we created law, not law created : us. Laws are design to serve the general need of the people. We should put : humanity first, not the law above humanity. : I have no relationship with that poor lady. I don't know her. But some of : my friend's friends know her. : Let me tell you a true story. : While I was second year in College, I met this girl from China, she was poor : just like me and working at her uncle's restaurant. : One day she went to have driving test and failed. She was somewhat upset
j*5
51 楼
You must have a knife or a gun over your head to proof that you are in danger then that's you. I see a small problem, then I will watch out for myself and my people, before the problem gets big. Black people didn't get here, by sitting around do nothing. You suggest that we agree with whites, and side with the law, punish our own people for a small mistake, but she did it because she want to see her mother in death bed and let her mother see her son. This is human and noble . You have no proof that she won't bring the boy back. You are arguing because you just want to be right. I am sorry I disagree you in law, logic, or humanity. Although, I have been here more than 27 years. I fully understand the need to be with the parent on their death bed. It's noble and honor to do it, the mistake is not get proper paper work done. If I were her I do it with no regret. Let's just stop here, agree to disagree.
"I see a small problem, then I will watch out for myself and my people, before the problem gets big." 您这话没问题. 您的问题是, 您还说了很多有问题的话. 比如您说您顶楼这案子就是 明显针对中国人的, 不这么想的就是傻子. 比如您前面还说这女的没什么错. 您这些话不说, 效果会好得多. 至于您为什么说这些话, 我就不知道了. 如果您是认真的, 那么我只能认为您 是认为仅仅讲正理不能说服人, 所以要拿些您自己改造出来的歪理来再加强 点说服力. 很遗憾, 效果正好相反.
own noble
【在 j*****5 的大作中提到】 : You must have a knife or a gun over your head to proof that you are in : danger then that's you. : I see a small problem, then I will watch out for myself and my people, : before the problem gets big. : Black people didn't get here, by sitting around do nothing. : You suggest that we agree with whites, and side with the law, punish our own : people for a small mistake, but she did it because she want to see her : mother in death bed and let her mother see her son. This is human and noble : . You have no proof that she won't bring the boy back. : You are arguing because you just want to be right.
j*5
53 楼
I don't have to prove anything, because I am not under court of law to prove her guilty or innocent. I am just voice my concern, so people will pay attention, notice some problem. I am also want to voice my support for her. You on the other hand are way to serious, like we are in court arguing if she is guilty or not. Like I said, that's not my job here.
【在 m**n 的大作中提到】 : "I see a small problem, then I will watch out for myself and my people, : before the problem gets big." : 您这话没问题. : 您的问题是, 您还说了很多有问题的话. 比如您说您顶楼这案子就是 : 明显针对中国人的, 不这么想的就是傻子. : 比如您前面还说这女的没什么错. : 您这些话不说, 效果会好得多. : 至于您为什么说这些话, 我就不知道了. 如果您是认真的, 那么我只能认为您 : 是认为仅仅讲正理不能说服人, 所以要拿些您自己改造出来的歪理来再加强 : 点说服力.
【在 j*****5 的大作中提到】 : I don't have to prove anything, because I am not under court of law to prove : her guilty or innocent. : I am just voice my concern, so people will pay attention, notice some : problem. : I am also want to voice my support for her. : You on the other hand are way to serious, like we are in court arguing if : she is guilty or not. : Like I said, that's not my job here.
j*5
55 楼
She is now free, the Judge had compassion on her. She bought round trip ticket.
j*5
56 楼
Some guys here are very cruel call her names, and they do deserve to be called 人渣.