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My Salary history and what's next?# Working - 上班一族

c*t2005-02-04 08:02

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Hi, All

I started working in 2000 as software engineer and now I am a pretty
senior guy.
Here is my salary history.
All workinng in software product companies for the years.
65,000 June 2000 new graduate and new hire. felt so good when got the
offer and number,
did not know to bargain it, so I can get higher. anyhow
71,000 Dec 2000 My manager found that I am pretty senior and salary is
very low,
So I was promoted right away for se

r*l2005-02-04 08:02

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Not really. Master with four years experience is good enough to be engineering
three. In company like Oracle, not good reputation for their compensation,
engineering three can make about 90 to 98k. So, I don't think his salary is
not reasonable. As long as you keep on jumping, 6 figure salary for that much
experience is not a reach.
Also, it's not just about how many years. I know a lot of guys having 10/20
years experience, however, they don't know jack. What they do is going to work
at 10 and

r*l2005-02-04 08:02

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If your expenrience in China does count, then you are IV or V. If not, you are
a III for sure. That's not the problem. Even for V, you can not make tons of
money and be rich. You still need to work till 60 years old. hehe
It really depends on what you are interested to do and what you are good at. I
think there are different career pathes, e.g.
1. architect
pure tech path. You can make a lot of money if you can be a good architect.
2. management
try to improve your communicatio and organization

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: Hi, All
:
: I started working in 2000 as software engineer and now I am a pretty
: senior guy.
: Here is my salary history.
: All workinng in software product companies for the years.
: 65,000 June 2000 new graduate and new hire. felt so good when got the
: offer and number,
: did not know to bargain it, so I can get higher. anyhow
: 71,000 Dec 2000 My manager found that I am pretty senior and salary is

x*x2005-02-04 08:02

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NJ is a truly good place. Check this out, the richest counties in US:
http://www.census.gov/acs/www/Products/Ranking/2003/R14T050.htm

I*e2005-02-04 08:02

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I believe your next step is more a career shift than a natural extension from
what you are doing.
Starting coding from 85 is both a great thing to mention and a heavy burden
when it comes to computer sciences... Those new kids on the market don't know
the old shit but they are more adapted to newer technologies, and when you
grow older you will have less and less energy to learn.
Therefore, my suggestion is, try gaining some managerial responsibility, build
your own team, shy away from basic cod

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s*e2005-02-04 08:02

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My 2 cents brother, about improving your english skill and also about getting
involved in the working environment.
English is just a language, a tool for you too communicate with your peers. I
don't understand why you give up so easily.
Don't be too serious about yourself. Try to blend in and get to know your
co-workers and boss well. This is rather a personality issue. According to
your own words, "And the only things I want to do are things like writing spec
and learning how to do technical p

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c*e2005-02-04 08:02

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hehe, try atdesk.com, plain webpage but they pay more than 200,000
for a fresh phd. :-)
financial company is rich ah...

h*m2005-02-04 08:02

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这个话题都跟这儿挂了无数天了,早想说两句,反正是今天第一次能登录上站,就写写自己
的感想.
工作四五年以上,解决了身份问题的非学术新移民,基本上都有这个问题,就是不知道自己
的前途在哪儿.如果真这么混下去能混到退休,有的人也就无所谓了,可是IT这行又不是养
老特有保障的.再有的人根本就是不甘心做个基层罗卜头混下去.
我的朋友圈子里头,大多数是98-00年左右开始工作的,里面个别人回国,剩下的都差不多解
决了绿卡问题,或者正在等最后一步被批准.这些人里面做IT的,都在考虑何去何从的问题.
现有的出路大概有这么几条:
一是找家大公司,混seniority,争取养老.这样做的人,技术上是大牛,有条件做到architec
t.同时夫妻两人都工作,经济相对稳定.
二是找家小公司,做个技术大拿之类,或者就是几个熟悉的人攒个公司,争取能够被大公司
买掉,发笔财想干嘛干嘛去.这样的机会不算大,不过总归是比在一般公司里混"希望"大点
儿.这样的人一般也有另一半的工资维持基本生活.
三是放弃IT,从头寻觅新径.这两年有关这个的讨论也不少.新兴专业有MBA,financial
engineering,law

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h*m2005-02-04 08:02

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大概人都有从众心理吧.我附近这拨人,不管有没有孩子,都忙得颠颠儿的回炉读书,full-t
ime,part-time的都有,什么专业都有,一群人互相有促进作用吧.现在看来商啊经济啊什么
的entry-level的工作是没有问题,以后的发展还不知道.因为这个entry-level的pay跟IT
高端的pay就比较接近,所以目前大家还都算满足.而且仔细算算,如果两个人都挣六位数左
右,其中一个工资上涨空间还很大,bonus可能也大,又在不那么贵的吓人的地区,那么好几
年下来,还是能有些积蓄的.语言文化上的问题,可以克服一些,当然不可能完全克服,它对
工作带来的影响,就朋友的经验来讲,确实是有,但是没有想象的那么大.
这个就是短痛跟长痛的问题.我也认识有五十左右做IT的中国夫妻,确实有点儿苍惶.说到
底,是第一代移民的限制太多,有些东西不是努力了就行,虽然说努力了多少会好点儿.

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